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- novenator, on 06/03/2009, -6/+158There was little doubt in my mind that the Bush regime *wanted* to invade Iraq (partially to avenge daddies perceived failure, and party because the conservative hawks were greedy for militarism and oil), but I honestly didn't think they would do it. We protested, as did tens of millions around the globe, but it didn't matter in the end, Bush invaded and hundred of thousands of people died, including over 4,000 Americans.
***** Bush.
More on this story from another source: http://digg.com/d1ssFU - jwaf, on 06/03/2009, -5/+110Surprise, surprise, surprise! NOT!
- meese, on 06/04/2009, -5/+78Not really news. The neo-con "Project for a New American Century" had been planning on attacking Iraq in the 90s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_a_new_ame ... - algaeturd, on 06/04/2009, -10/+66I think there is actually footage of him discussing an invasion of Iraq WAY before 9/11. That's been established. The problem is that either the American people are too stupid or too apathetic to give a *****. In an intelligent nation, he would have already been tried as a war criminal. In the U.S.A, he's still considered a hero by many.
Puts things into perspective, no?
1. Proved: Absolutely ZERO link between 9/11 and Iraq
2. Proved: Absolutely no WMDs located in Iraq after Bush said he knew where they were located.
3. Proved: Bush's daddy got his ass whipped and was made to look like a fool during Desert Storm.
Anyone who needs further evidence that hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and thousands of innocent U.S. military died SOLEY because Bush had a vendetta against Saddam needs their heads checked. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -9/+58“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
— William Colby, former Director of the CIA. - algaeturd, on 06/04/2009, -9/+44oh, *****. I accidentally wrote another comment:
Bush clearly lied to Americans and to Congress but the bottom line is that some people are dumb as ***** to fall for it. Don't forget that not every American and every congressman were ready to rush off to war as the hawks were. Many Americans didn't care to understand the whole story.
Most still don't get it.
I have relatives who still think that Saddam bombed the World Trade Center. No lie.
Even though the White House admitted there was no link, these people will believe that to their dying days. Just as they'll believe that all the U.S. soldiers who died did so defending our nation. Which is a lie. They died heroically but their positions were abused by the Commander in Chief.
And it'll come as no surprise to hear that these people all religiously watch Fox News, which was an important propaganda tool used for Bush to commit his crimes against humanity. Fox is very much to blame and I've no doubt that they're proud they played a role in a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people, including thousands of American sons, daughters, fathers and mothers.
Disgusting. ***** disgusting.
As a citizen of this country, there's a personal responsibility that needs to be upheld to be active and knowledgeable in topics such as war and foreign affairs. The problem is that people think Fox News is a legitimate news source and unquestionably believe everything they 'report.' With Fox in his back pocket, Bush had the minions and sheep lining up to support anything.
Why?
Americans were pissed about 9/11. They wanted to kill someone. Anyone. Attack any country just so we'll feel better about the whole thing.
The problem was that there was no evidence to tie Iraq to 9/11 at all, yet somehow Bush was able to lie about WMDs and Al Quaeda training bases and never had to answer to those lies he made towards congress and the American people.
Bush lied out of his ass continually and never had to answer to it.
Just goes to show that Americans can be apathetic pussies. Any other country would have stood up against the treason and lies. Americans rolled over and sighed a collective, 'meh.'
***** idiots.
Let's also not forget the millions that Cheney and Bush made from this war and the billions that their friends at Haliburton and KBR made 'serving' our armed forces. Let's not forget the billion dollar contracts given to Blackwater for them to thug around Iraq.
This war was about a personal vendetta, monetary greed and scapegoating. Nothing else. If we have a sac and a brain as a nation, history will prove that beyond any shadow of a doubt. - duncan202, on 06/04/2009, -1/+29Agree with one an two -- but how did Bush Sr. get his assed whooped in Desert Storm?
- vatosplace, on 06/04/2009, -7/+26What about this is news? Who didn't know this already?
- Homerr, on 06/03/2009, -4/+20Ok, at first I read that as Candidate Bush was going to order the military to invade Iraq in 1999, not that he was just thinking about it as far back as 1999.
- DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -3/+19Endorsing a party that sends 4,000 Americans to their death for no reason other than to make their pocketbook thicker is really kind of just ignorant and stupid, isn't it?
Well... for lack of better words of course. They need to come up with new words to describe stupidity, these just aren't doing you guys any justice. - philodygmn, on 06/04/2009, -4/+19^
‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade·.if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it.'"
^
Political capital? You mean CAPITAL -- disrupting the oil economy's why everyone closed ranks around Saddam. You, shrub, typically equate kicking him out of Kuwait for invading it, with _invading_ Iraq _yourself_. Evidently he thought the same ingredients -- a Bush versus Saddam -- amounted to the same circumstances. People that stupid should be put to sleep. - sirron811, on 06/04/2009, -4/+19Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Bush/Cheney = War Pigs - emazur, on 06/04/2009, -3/+17Why the Bush family invaded Iraq:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM1Rq4Q3qYY - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -2/+16Daddy didn't have a perceived failure, as not many, including Dick Cheney, wanted to take Baghdad and occupy Iraq back during the first Gulf War. It became a PNAC goal, though, a little later.
A lot of people think it was partly a daddy-issue thing, though, as Dubya lived under the shadow of his father's achievements his whole life, and felt like he needed always to prove himself. He was a ***** up from day one, of course, and knew it. So going into Iraq and getting rid of Saddam was a way to prove himself bigger than Poppa. - DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -3/+16So did you have a way to defend any of the ***** up ***** your party has done, or do you just troll around spitting off brainless one-liners before your job changing oil at jiffy lube?
- sodade, on 06/04/2009, -1/+14How can any American not ***** loathe these PNAC Neoconmen?
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+13Yeah, thanks for your reasoned and logical evidence-filled response, there, genius. I'm sure you convinced a whole lot of people.
- ZenMojo, on 06/04/2009, -0/+12During the October 2000 debates with Al Gore, Bush outright says he needs to invade Iraq.
http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2000a.html
"BUSH: That's hard to tell. I think that, you know, I would hope to be able to convince people I could handle the Iraqi situation better.
MODERATOR: Saddam Hussein, you mean, get him out of there?
BUSH: I would like to, of course, and I presume this administration would as well. We don't know -- there are no inspectors now in Iraq, the coalition that was in place isn't as strong as it used to be. He is a danger. We don't want him fishing in troubled waters in the Middle East. And it's going to be hard, it's going to be important to rebuild that coalition to keep the pressure on him."
By the way, in three separate presidential debates, Bush only mentions the word "oil" once, and it is in reference to Saddam Hussein having it. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -2/+13FTA: "In a column published Tuesday, Baker is quoted as saying that his story was turned down by The Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. Baker described the Post as “scared because of the Dan Rather thing, and they said to me, ‘What do you have in the way of evidence?’” The author says he replied, “‘Here’s a tape of Mickey Herskowitz, who’s published 20-some books, long-time journalist of the Houston Chronicle, friend of the Bush family, telling me this story.” He says a Post editor said, “It’s not enough. In this climate, we need Bush on tape saying this.”"
Does he have the Post editor on tape saying that? - DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -3/+14Its been like 5 months and you're still making comments like these?
- DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -1/+12Oh, sorry. I was concerned when I saw that we went to war and thousands of people have died for no reason.
You're just the idiot who doesn't understand. - nicc, on 06/04/2009, -0/+11I remember Front Line did an expose on him and his cabinet where they were discussing the invasion of Iraq before Bush had even taken the Oath of Office. this aired either just before we invaded Iraq or as we were invading them so this is definitely not new news...
shortly thereafter was when Bush and the other Neocons started their NPR/PBS is ultra-left spiel and launched an inquiry. - Moonkeeper, on 06/04/2009, -0/+10Its a plan for the empire that the founders of this country never wanted.
- cybrguy, on 06/04/2009, -1/+113. Proved: Bush's daddy got his ass whipped and was made to look like a fool during Desert Storm.
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I agree with the rest, but how did bushes dad get his ass whipped? - rv361162, on 06/04/2009, -0/+9***** crazy like the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into Vietnam?
Oh wait, let me link it for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1ooWmxQQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbJLwk-bJaA
Government is NEVER to be passively trusted, why don't you know this? - Velvolver, on 06/04/2009, -1/+10Ironically it ruined him and the nation.
And as he was sworn out, he was boo'd by millions.
Lol? - sodade, on 06/04/2009, -0/+9The same people who won't pay attention to it now.
- DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8Has anyone else noticed that conservatives like this guy never have any retort to the obvious truth about the Iraq war? Its almost like they express their enjoyment of being lied to, taken advantage of, and part of the reason that 4,000 Americans have died for absolutely no ***** reason at all. But its all game to them.
Its easier to make fun of liberals than to actually have to think about what Bush did to the country, and defend his actions with any sort of thought-out reasonable argument.
People like Me103 are the puritans of the witch trials, the slave-owners of the civil war, the radical Christians of women's suffrage. They have been on the wrong side of the argument ever since the signing of the declaration of independance, and they still can't see it.
Freethought and the ability to become as educated as we want has made America what it is today. The fact that there is a movement that harbors the intentional ignorance of the most important social issues of our time does nothing but punish the progress we have made as a country, and taint the efforts of our freethinking liberal forefathers such as Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, etc.
Me103, you are a disgrace to our society. - Velvolver, on 06/04/2009, -3/+11Preaching to the choir. I have family that believes this too, also that Obama is a radical undercover muslim that wasn't born in this country.
They all happen to be stupid as hell and live in eastern Kentucky.
Coincidence? - DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8@ cagtdawg555
Point proven. Next?
PS - The guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence grew hemp and allegedly smoked cannabis on occasion.
Can you guess his name?! I'll give you three tries!
No cheating allowed. - Velvolver, on 06/04/2009, -2/+10When we stop being actual patriots and not chicken hawks like yourself.
- wpyh, on 06/04/2009, -6/+14***** invasion. Any invasion. How would you feel if your country is being invaded?
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -8/+16I have LONG suspected such was the case. I also firmly believe that GWBush allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen so he would have a "reason" to go to war. If all this is true (and I believe it is), then GWBush and all of his compatriots are WAR CRIMINALS and should be HANGED.
- DetD0g, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8You're about 20 years off. GHWB was head of the CIA from January 30, 1976 to January 20, 1977. In 1958 he was an oil exec.
- bicyclethief, on 06/04/2009, -2/+9"The United States is a moral country, unlike Iraq."
You are frighteningly naive or deluded. - DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -2/+9"I also firmly believe that GWBush allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen so he would have a "reason" to go to war."
You'd be dumb not to be skeptical. Look at the conspiracies that shroud Pearl Harbor and the Lusitania. There are reports on all of these events having prior intelligence, and our leadership not acting to prevent anything. People just choose to ignore it. Its easier living in happy-fuzzy land where uncomfortable thoughts don't exist. - DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -2/+9@ DavidNiven
How is that not truth? Its obvious. If conservatives weren't missing the part of their brain that allows reason and logic to take place you guys might someday understand it. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+7I stand corrected
He is a highly connected rich *****.
http://www.famoustexans.com/georgebush.htm
In 1964, Bush campaigned against the Civil Rights Act. He lost that election but was elected to Congress in 1966 and again in 1968. He was defeated in the race for Senate by Democrat Lloyd Bentsen in 1970.
Bush was elected in 1966 to a House of Representatives seat from the 7th District of Texas.
In 1953, Bush got money from Brown Brothers Harriman and, with partners Hugh and Bill Liedtke, formed Zapata Petroleum. By the late 1950s they were millionaires. Bush bought subsidiary Zapata Off-Shore from his partners and went into business on his own in 1954. By 1958, the new company was drilling on the Cay Sal Bank in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico. These islands had been leased to Nixon supporter and CIA contractor Howard Hughes the previous year and were later used as a base for CIA raids on Cuba. The CIA was using companies like Zapata to stage and supply secret missions attacking Fidel Castro’s Cuban government in advance of the Bay of Pigs invasion. The CIA’s codename for that invasion was “Operation Zapata.” In 1981, all Securities and Exchange Commission filings for Zapata Off-Shore between 1960 and 1966 were destroyed. In other words, the year Bush became vice president, important records detailing his years at his drilling company disappeared. In 1969, Zapata bought the United Fruit Company of Boston, another company with strong CIA connections.
United Fruit went on to grow Bananas in South America and........Oh ***** CIA war..well *****! Back scratching here?
As Commander-in-Chief, Bush oversaw two major U.S. military deployments. He ordered the invasion of Panama, which began just after midnight on December 20, 1989. It was the twelfth U.S. invasion of that country since 1903. The mission of U.S. forces was to depose long-time CIA asset General Manuel Noriega, an indicted drug trafficker. It was the largest airborne assault since World War II. When it was over, the Army excluded the press and Red Cross from entering heavily bombed areas for three days while soldiers incinerated some civilian casualties and buried others in mass graves. Bush’s Defense Secretary, Richard Cheney claimed a death toll of between 500 and 600. But independent human rights groups put the death toll between 3,000 and 5,000 with about 25,000 left homeless. This military operation turned out to be practice for even greater press censorship, propaganda and human rights violations during and after Operation Desert Storm, the U.S. air and ground attack that failed to depose Iraq’s leader, Saddam Hussein, in 1990. That failure eventually eroded public confidence in Bush and contributed to his defeat by Bill Clinton in the 1992 presidential election. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+8hello waterboarding! we are as moral as *****!
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6More importantly, Bush stocked important positions in his administration--including Vice President Cheney--from that same think tank. PNAC members also held a majority on the Defense Policy Board, a Pentagon group that recommends so-called Defense policy to the president. Other members, such as Kristol, beat the drums of war from their news/politics publications.
PNAC is probably one of the most egregious conspiracies in the history of civilization. The media granted them carte blanche, allowing them to operate without any public scrutiny.
@unreg: please do everyone a favor and go an hero - pimpofpixels, on 06/04/2009, -1/+7We're still there douche bag. Or have you forgotten?
- kingp43, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6Robert McNamara - the fog of war - look that video up
President of Ford to Secretary of Defense to President of the World Bank
He makes some pretty astonishing admissions. When I say this *****, it's a conspiracy theory. What do you call it when the one time SoD says it? - americanoboy, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6a country that rapes and tortures its detainees is not moral. nor is a country that invades other countries and murders millions of its civilians.
- jsmithers, on 06/04/2009, -2/+8What only -1 diggs already? Come on, you 9/11 truth deniers can do better than that!
Why settle for not believing the truth and reality that 9/11 was an inside job, when you can try and stop others from learning it too! Yeah!
/sarcasm. - LilRabbitFooFoo, on 06/04/2009, -2/+8Yes, the sentence is poorly constructed.
- joot2112, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6"easing deficits under Bush"? You just lost all credibility. You were curiously silent as Bush & co burdened future generations with record deficits ... primarily for the sake of a totally unnecessary war.
- jsmithers, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6Oh dear, you poor thing. I do hope you're OK when reality finally hits you.
- Velvolver, on 06/04/2009, -1/+7Why do you think it didn't phase him when he was told? He just kept on readin
- joot2112, on 06/04/2009, -2/+8Obamanomics? You mean the results of the slide that Republican economic policies precipitated at least 2 years before Obama took office? You mean the collapse of banks that occurred in Sept 2008 and effects of the debt by the subsequent Republican-sponsored massive bailout rush? Is that what your spin machines are yapping now - that Obama started it? High gas prices? I seem to remember it was over $4/gal in summer 2008. I know Republican memory is ***** or you wouldn't have voted Bush 2004, but this is ridiculous. Go check your timeline. And when the economy rebounds due to Obamanomics will you admit what an ass you were for supporting policies that weren't even in your own interest? Or will you eat up the next spin take which attributes it to anything but Democrats?
- DankBuddz, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6I don't really want to jump in the middle of this but, TimtheTaxman, you need to google the Military Industrial Complex.
It costs the lower-class tax payers money, and their lives. It doesn't cost anyone else anything. But it does generate a lot of revenue for those who are in the right place at the right time. After all, who pays the defense budget? -
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