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- SheilaNoya, on 05/28/2008, -10/+66The more McCain speaks, the more he fumbles.
It's time to get the press off the Obama/Hillary fight and focus more on McCain and his never-ending flip flops and incoherent babbling about the issues. - jdowland, on 05/28/2008, -12/+57The reason that McCain picked the year 2013 to end the Iraq war is so that he could go through his first term without having to meet any objectives and still have a chance of getting re-elected for a 2nd term.
McCain says all kinds of stupid crap:
http://therealmccain.com/ - lukas88, on 05/28/2008, -12/+41I just saw McCain speak about 40 minutes ago here in Denver. Iraq protesters interrupted him four times and they had to be dragged off by his security. He even had the audacity to mention free speech as the protesters were being dragged off. I guess he just means free speech for him.
- Echota, on 01/05/2009, -8/+21Honestly now...does the republican party really want John McCain for president?
I don't think so ......but they are stuck with him now and he will be a thorn in their side! - mentallyinhell, on 05/28/2008, -11/+22McCain can't keep any story straight. Its either alzheimers, or some kind of bitchslap to the American public.
- dylanbright, on 05/28/2008, -2/+12If we're taking Iraq's oil, I am not seeing a drop of it.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -6/+141)He is 71 years old. 2) He is a politician. Do you really expect someone described by 1) and 2) to be able to say what he thinks without getting it twisted? I wouldn't...
- crowbar77, on 05/28/2008, -1/+8He will be 76 after his first term, I don't think he'll be going for the re-election.
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/28/2008, -0/+7I don't think many conservatives would have a problem with that. Personally I see him as a placeholder while a better replacement is found (and no, Paulbots, I wasn't referring to Crazy Uncle Ron.)
- deadbaby, on 05/28/2008, -6/+13Doesn't matter. Hasn't the Bush presidency taught us anything? The average voter doesn't really understand the situation so it doesn't matter if McCain flip flops because they don't have any factual knowledge to check it against. As long as the sound bite sounds good, it's true.
- masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -8/+14Sorry, but free speech does not mean you can say anything you want, anywhere, at anytime.
- buba1243, on 05/28/2008, -4/+10While I believe in free speech there is something said to respect the current speaker and waiting your turn for a time to comment. You know like the guy who asked McCain about calling his wife a "*****" before being dragged off.
- EnviroChem, on 05/22/2009, -9/+15Sometimes it feels like McCain is a token "throw away" candidate that the Republicans put up as their nominee because the historical significance of the Democratic nominee is against the Republicans. It seems any really good Republican candidate decided to sit out this election rather than be marred by having to fight a loosing campaign. Little did they know early on that Hillary Clinton would fair so poorly and to what extreme she would go to in order to try and weaken Obama after it was so painfully obvious that she could not win.
It seems that the Republican strategy of wrapping their nomination process up very quickly has backfired this time around because they were unable to adapt to what was happening on the Democratic side. In addition their wrapping things up too soon has denied the Republicans lots of free air time and media coverage they could have otherwise received. - jp12380, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6Rationalbeats
Perhaps you could explain how it was out of context?
I must admit what he did there does sound like a contradiction. Saying Iran spends very little money compared to us and aren't that great of a threat and then goes on to say they are a threat.
I definitely support Obama over McCain but I do see a Obama foul up here unless you could logically explain what he was saying in a way that makes sense. - masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -1/+7Ohh I forgot the other problem, which is if you were fighting me with your 3 minute timetable, I would literally protect myself for three minutes before raining down on you. Then you would just end up breaking your timetable and wishing you would have thought it through a bit more because the beating you took before reneging on the timetable is all it took for the winner to be me instead of you.
- Cyrus042, on 05/28/2008, -2/+8I encourage everyone to read this article and watch this video. You'll soon realize the exaggerations and deliberate misunderstandings by the author.
The fact of the matter is that McCain saying that he would like to ideally have achieved a stable peace in Iraq by 2013 is not the same as a very concrete drawdown on a month by month basis beginning in 2008. Further the oil comment actually is about Iraq... in 1990 in the context of accusations of slant drilling. (for those who don't remember)
I think it's interesting that the author reported on the fact that Obama had qualified his statements about a full drawdown by keeping a small peacekeeping force seeing as this is exactly what McCain meant when he made his 100 year statement. Obviously thats the reasonable approach to the credit of both Obama and McCain, but even though the intention is the same, partisans continue to "hit" McCain on those comments. - Cyrus042, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6McCain frequently holds Town Hall events, they are more than welcome to confront him there. Many individuals/opponents do, but apparently too many feel that shouting and disrupting a speech is a far better way of pursuing a cause than trying to engage in a rational dialogue with someone in the appropriate setting.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6It matters because it makes him out to be a liar. To Obama, his lies are just words. And apparently, dead Jews at Auschwitz are just props.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -3/+9We're not ever leaving Iraq. All three candidates know that. Only McCain has been honest enough to admit it.
- badqat, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5What is with Obama supporters continually stating he's pragmatic? He isn't, and most of his supporters aren't either.
If you'd care to note, Bill Clinton was a centrist, not on the far left like Obama. Clinton was kept in check by a Republican majority elected during the first mid-term after he entered office.
And yes, McCain is a centrist as well.
The Republican party is no more fragmented than the Democratic party. Dems have everything from socialists, centrists, blue dogs and yellow dogs, and even old racists like KKK Grand Dragon Byrd claiming membership. - LastVisibleDog, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5what - do you just make ***** up on the fly ?
- Jamihabs, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5I remember when Gore and then Kerry were supposed to make Bush look like a fool in the debates. Bush held his own and therefore won.
- masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -4/+9Compare? No. I was simply explaining the problem with setting a date. I'm not sure why you guys would bury me for factually correcting the lying parent comment. Anyways, you can apply my metaphor to any war. I'll give you an example on a smaller scale which should make it painfully clear what's wrong with the concept of giving a timetable. If you start a fight with some guy, how well do you think it would work if you chose 3 minutes to stop fighting? Unless the other guy also chose 3 minutes to stop fighting, you are stupid. Maybe you can explain to me the benefits of a timetable. And if all you're going to say is it would stop the fighting, then there would still be no reason for a timetable since you would then stop instantaneously.
- zombies187, on 05/28/2008, -1/+6Not one of the three candidates has promised to end any war.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -4/+8Thats funny, Obama said he saw dead people in the crowd on memorial day and today he said his GREAT Uncle liberated Auschwitz. Which is pretty funny considering the Red Army liberated Auschwitz.
But of course he just MISSPOKE, when anyone else does the same its a gaffe.
Are you people so blinded by your love for him that you cannot acknowledge a single mistake?
How about this, I challenge you to come up with some issues that you disagree with Obama on. I doubt you can do it, and that is ***** SCARY. - Lurtz, on 05/28/2008, -1/+5You call him a slime ball, yet you throw in an attack on a religion he may or may not belong too. Nice job in maintaining the discourse of the discussion at a high level of class. Oh also assuming because he opposes the droves of Obama supporters that he must be a McCain supporter is an added nice touch.
- masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -4/+8Obama's voting record in the U.S. Senate is factually the furthest left of any senator. You are the "***** moron".
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/ ... . - inactive, on 05/28/2008, -2/+6Both videos in context make it look even worse. In one he's trying to convince the audience that Iran and others don't pose a threat to us because they don't spend alot of money on defense. In the other he's trying to cover his tracks by saying Iran is a grave threat and that he's always claimed Iran was a grave threat.
First statement in context:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew5qP2oPdtQ
Video from his campaign:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jm-VduN-FVc
The first statement shows his complete and utter ignorance on foreign policy and the implications of a nuclear Iran. His second statement shows his incredible ability to simultaneously whine, equivocate, and deny his own statements. - SwedishNinja, on 05/28/2008, -0/+4Uhhh... maybe they shouldn't have interrupted his speech?
- dizilbdog, on 05/28/2008, -1/+5I'd love to see Mcain Flip out on Stage with Obama in a debate that would be priceless.
- Disregard, on 05/28/2008, -3/+7Free speech is where you invade random countries to Protect Our Freedoms, not say what you want!
- masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -1/+5Well, that's highly subjective. In any case, nearly every legitimate entity calls it a war. A quick google search for "iraq war" turns up 24,400,000 hits, whereas "iraq occupation" turns up a measly 811,000 hits. Maybe it is you who can not tell th difference between and occupation and a war. Maybe it's just a clever way for the anti-war to frame it.
- roho76, on 05/28/2008, -3/+6Why am I having this gut feeling that he'll be the next president. As much as I try to quell it I just can't. With all the talk about assassination, Florida/Michigan delegate problems, and the free ride McCain is getting in the media I just have a bad feeling about all this. Not to mention the Republican party doesn't seem at all worried. The only thing their worried about is Ron Paul getting delegates and educating people about the truth.
- lilricky, on 05/28/2008, -1/+4Yeah, I guess he didn't learn from Kerry's example, taser them!
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3McCain will make Obama look the fool the way he did in all the debates.
He wont have his beloved teleprompter. - DemonWasp, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3It may be the broadest definition of "free speech", jp12380, but it's not the best one. Your definition would permit all sorts of legal trouble (libel, slander, perjury, etc), but also social problems (rasicm, sexism, etc). A better definition can be found in your Constitution.
- dafragsta, on 05/28/2008, -1/+4That makes no sense. A Republican won the last election when it was accepted that he was going to lose. Turned out differently, voter fraud notwithstanding.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3@rationalbeats
"show your support for the troops by voting in guys who want to take away benefits from them"
What benefits was he taking away? His version of the GI Bill was more fiscally sound than Webb's version and was also an improvement on the current GI Bill. So you're holding John McCain to the fire for thinking that granting people a full-ride for their college educatin upon completion of basic training is a bad idea?
You want to talk about creating a massive military machine, well you're looking at it with Webb's GI Bill.
@DemonWasp
A threat to the stability of the Middle East is a threat to the US. - masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -7/+10No, but under the current situation in which the democrats basically have this election haded to them, a centrist candidate is their best bet, and it really helps them that the democrats chose the furthest left senator.
- Sil369, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3Dugg for "McCan't Remember" and "08AMA"
- JayTee44, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3You're way off, starting with your first sentence; Republicans didn't 'put up' McCain, he decided for himself to run for president.
- tastypickles, on 05/28/2008, -7/+10Needs more cowbell
- masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -1/+4Good point. He's probably very conservative and the national journal just doesn't know what they're talking about.
My question is, if mediamatters debunked the methodology for labeling Kerry most liberal, why can't they do it for Obama? Beside the point, I'm pretty sure there are other studies which produce the same result. - stonewaljacksn, on 05/28/2008, -3/+6damn jdowland. you obama attack dogs will say ANYTHING. good thing masterm1nd was there to put you in your place.
- masterm1nd, on 05/28/2008, -2/+4The number you're looking for is in the last full year, 2007.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/img/njgraphics/0801 ... .
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/ . - EnviroChem, on 05/22/2009, -0/+2My point was that those Republicans who could have truly been strong candidates opted not to run. None of the Republican candidates were that inspiring. Well except for Ron Paul, but he was too Republican (in the traditional sense) to win the nomination.
- Monk22, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2yeah i expect a president to know what the ***** hes talking about.
- EnviroChem, on 05/22/2009, -0/+2Actually it could be argued that Bush did not win in 2004 as much as Kerry lost. It seemed that Kerry was doing his best to lose. Kerry's campaign was terribly run and entirely uninspiring. Kerry himself seemed to have the personality of a log.
- Callik, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2Perhaps we should start calling him Sidney McCain seeing as Republicans have done away with pesky unspinable forenames now.
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