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- Sauwan, on 08/26/2008, -34/+612"Because you can't do it, my friend"
1) I am not your friend.
2) Don't tell me what I can't do, you pompous *****. - meschief, on 08/26/2008, -13/+385HEY McGoo... I picked raspberries all summer when I was a kid because our family needed the $$$, something you'll NEVER understand!!!!
- Hillsfar, on 08/27/2008, -23/+300The media goes ALL OVER Obama's few gaffes.
They ignore McCain's near-daily senior moments and lies. - likwidtek, on 08/26/2008, -14/+250McCain is a complete tool.
- Shiftgood, on 08/27/2008, -15/+248"American workers are lazy people. Give the illegals the jobs" is basically what McCain is saying.
Hey Americans, how proud of McCain can you be if hes not even proud of you... - Adida, on 08/27/2008, -7/+212$50 an hour i'm there!!!!
- RoroCo, on 08/27/2008, -12/+18250 dollars an hour... That is crazy talk. He is obviously talking about arugula and not cabbage.
- Jexie, on 08/27/2008, -16/+170Why does John McCain hate America?
- berryessence, on 08/26/2008, -34/+155I KNOW HE CAN'T DO IT! AND WON'T DO IT!
IF HE PAID ME $15 HOUR I WOULD DO IT!
THIS PISSED ME OFF EVEN FURTHER
I'm going to have to pray on my Rosary...because I'm about to HATE..and I don't want to HATE - bgrah449, on 08/27/2008, -4/+121Hrm, really? $50/hr * 40hr/wk. That's $2,000/wk.
$2,000/wk for 4wk/mo = $8,000/mo.
$8,000/mo * 4m = $32,000 for 4 months' work at $50/hr, before taxes are removed.
Your scenario requires $200/hr. I suspect that at the end of your calculation, instead of multiplying by 4 twice (once for week->month, once for month->4month), you multiplied by 4 three times, one too many. - eliot2000, on 08/26/2008, -84/+199at $50/an hour for 4 months, that would be $128,000, which is more than I make in 2 years. Does he think that's below average earnings?
- S5S5S5, on 08/27/2008, -10/+109Why isn't this Obama's campaign commercial? Just put this 20 second clip on a couple times a day, see how he does in the polls.
- socalftw, on 08/27/2008, -11/+99BUT HE WAS A P.O.W.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5 and half years!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- NateDiggle, on 08/26/2008, -31/+119McCain can't even scratch his own chin, let alone pick lettuce- short-armed *****.
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.............................. McCain - JenniferInMO, on 08/27/2008, -3/+57He doesn't hate America, he hates American workers. He was a POW, you know.
- elcalrissian, on 08/27/2008, -3/+51Awesome math response! Its nice to see a Digger come back with information and not insults.
- andy3109, on 08/27/2008, -2/+49For $50/hr tons of Americans would do it. Most adults wouldn't do it for $15/hr. Many of these Mexicans are doing it for minimum wage. That is the hardest type of hard labor I can think of.
- infodoc1, on 08/27/2008, -13/+53McShame probably thinks that the minimum wage is $200.00 an hour.
- inactive, on 08/27/2008, -4/+40Thanks to Bush, at the current rate of inflation we just might have to pay people $50 an hour to pick lettuce
- b0rg, on 08/27/2008, -1/+36Obama's a smart guy, and you don't mind picking on a smart guy when he screws something up. Comes with the territory and he seems up to the task.
McCain, on the other hand.... making fun of his ignorance and incompetence seems more like laughing at an elderly man who can't remember where he parked his car. It's not funny, it's just sad. - dagnabbit, on 08/27/2008, -6/+41When he offers $50 an hour to do that, yeah, he's wrong. That's a really high wage - showing just how out of touch McCain really is. People would jump all over that offer if it were real.
- BrendanSheehan, on 08/27/2008, -3/+35McCain's proving his elitist status.
- inactive, on 08/27/2008, -2/+33Your joke could have been so much better had you compared his arm length to a T-Rex, which could have easily led into a joke about his age. Missed opportunity, my friend.
- tehxen3, on 08/27/2008, -2/+33Americans would pick lettuce for $50, but businesses can't afford to pay them that much. Without mexican immigrants those businesses would go bankrupt and price of certain goods would increase dramatically.
- Shiftgood, on 08/27/2008, -3/+33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pu5nf8dAU
check it out. its in context. - inactive, on 08/27/2008, -7/+36Just to make sure that this wasn't taken way out of context, does anyone have the full speech/video that this is from?
- rreadysetno, on 08/27/2008, -4/+33Yeah, bitch.
- MelvinSchlubman, on 08/27/2008, -6/+32keymanjim2, maybe you never heard about the "cling to guns and religion" comment or Michelle's "first time I was proud" comment, as examples, because the media must not have covered them.
- inactive, on 08/27/2008, -1/+26By Bush standards he wasn't tortured so quit saying that.
- VicHislop, on 08/27/2008, -2/+26You seem to be missing the point that McCain failed at creating even a hypothetical situation to use as support for his position. He assumed that no one in the audience would be willing to do such "menial" work, even at $50 per hour, yet people were. He failed in his little "thought" exercise because he has no basis from which to build from as he has never had to worry about silly things like mortgages or filling up his car with gasoline. This just emphasizes the disconnect between John McCain's world ( or the one in which he projects for others) and the reality of life in this country.
- WasabiBomb, on 08/27/2008, -5/+28*sigh*
McCain wants to raise taxes more than Obama- cite: http://outtheotherear.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/ ...
How's Obama going to pay for the "*****" healthcare and unemployment? By stopping the war that's costing us $121,000 per US citizen, that's how. I'd much rather that money be spent on us, here, than on making the the Republican insiders rich. - lankyvaulter, on 08/27/2008, -16/+38dont get me wrong, im not a big fan of McCain, but doesnt this seem like an out of context quote. I get the sense that he is trying to explain how hard it is to pick lettuce in AZ in the summer, and that none of the people in the room he was talking to could take it, even for 50 bucks an hour. who knows tho, since the clip is only a few seconds long.
- lanemik, on 08/27/2008, -1/+23Or maybe eliot is only planning on sleeping 2 hours per day, my friend.
- BradOFarrell, on 08/27/2008, -20/+42He's not your guy, pal.
- sodade, on 08/27/2008, -1/+23Of course many Americans don't think those were "gaffes" at all and that neither of them should have to apologize for pointing out the ***** truth.
- Shiftgood, on 08/27/2008, -5/+27Im with you. Id rather pay MORE taxes to McCain. I would also like to be taxed to pay for health care coverage and watch the cost inflate at a rate of 7% a year.
Id rather the bigger chunk of my paycheck go to Hess oil, No bid contracts at Haliburton, Bechtel and corporate bail outs for mismanaged corporations like F&B and the airline industry and the logging industry.
Id also like part of my paycheck go to a new and bigger government that will take control of a free internet and bend and shape it to their liking.
And despite paying higher taxes to McCain i would also like to see a national deficit of over 4 trillion dollars. Because ***** the future of america.
Divided we stand.
McCain 08 - banderwocky, on 08/27/2008, -12/+34What an elitist prick. Exxon John needs a hot cup of shut the f*ck up.
- osama1234, on 08/27/2008, -12/+34I'm no McCain fan, but we all have to be reasonable, we all understands what he means. The illegal immigrants in the United States have a far better work ethic than US Citizens.
Dont tell me none of us have used a hyperbole to challenge someone else. - lanemik, on 08/27/2008, -2/+2326thMARINES is all thrust no vector. Too much AFRTS-sponsored Fox News propaganda viewing to blame I bet.
Your views on universal health care are amusing. I'm an American (former USAF Capt.) who lives in the UK at the moment (wife is on duty assignment as an exchange officer here). Every single time the discussion about health care comes up with any Brit, they're all so amazed that the US doesn't have something like they've got. They love their health care system (despite its faults) and wouldn't want to be without it. Sure they have to wait for certain things – MRI's take a while, some non-emergency surgeries do too – but any emergency treatment is done immediately and nobody has to worry about losing their house because they get in an accident or get cancer. That's far better than our system.
That's first hand knowledge, not WorldNet Daily, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter, etc. spin.
You know what else is funny to me, you, assuming you are a Marine, have government-sponsored health care. Why do you think the military spends all that money and all those resources to provide health care of their own? Sure they have to have medics in the field, but the vast majority of military docs work in massive military hospitals treating dependents and government workers. Why not just sign up all the military people to civilian sector private health care plans? Because you can't trust that people will get the best possible treatment. And you know what as long as you retire or are medically discharged, you will have that government-sponsored health care your entire life and you'll be happy and lucky to have it. I know damned well that very fact influences many people to stay in the military until retirement. People want to know that they and their families won't have to worry about health care again, ever.
Also about war creating jobs and revenue. I hope you're not implying that war profiteering is a good thing. Besides, there is little so draining on the economy as a war when you factor everything in (despite the increase in revenue places like Boeing, Lockheed, or Halliburton see).
The private sector and government have two very different missions. The private sector is interested in making profits, government is interested in making things happen when there is little to no profit to be made. That comes with pluses and minuses depending on the business. Insurance companies are great at making profits for shareholders, but they do it at the expense of those whom they insure. Even if you are not one of the 72,000,000 uninsured or under-insured people in the USA, you may still have problems getting coverage for legitimate health problems because insurance companies are masters at weaseling out of paying for things (don't ever get screened for MS in GA, even if you test positive, you won't be able to get individual health insurance). In places like the UK, you don't have to worry about that. If you've got cancer, you're going to get treated, if you've got MS, you're going to get treated. Something bothering you, go see a doctor, don't worry about it.
Back to the main point, though. McCain thinks the American worker can't do certain jobs. He's simply an ignorant, elitist old man. There's no way around that. This country will be far worse off than it is now until we get rid of people like McCain and the Bush administration. - lanemik, on 08/27/2008, -1/+19Yup, he's wrong. There is nothing special about illegal immigrants' character that makes them willing to do jobs that require physical labor. Any job they get is likely to be better in the long run for them and their families than being out of work in Mexico. Farmers won't hire legal citizens because they can't treat them as indentured servants and pay them next to nothing like they can with illegal immigrants. If farmers were forced to pay living wages to all their workers, you'd see workers of all race, creed, and color picking lettuce or whatever else.
McCain is happy to turn a blind eye to unfair business practices and the suffering of immigrants and their families.
We should make it easier for people to work here legally and crack down on those who hire illegal immigrants instead of focusing all our rage towards the illegal immigrants themselves.
What's more, this notion on the right that people in the USA think that there is work that is "beneath them" particularly when there is no other option is a perfect example of how conservatives are the true elitists in this country. - solistus, on 08/28/2008, -1/+19Wow, I never thought I liked a McCain policy proposal before, but his work program in Yuma sounds great! Where can I sign up?
He wouldn't be so obtuse and out-of-touch as to mock un- or underemployed Americans by making ridiculous false promises about high paying jobs and then condescendingly tell them that they "can't do it," would he?
$50 an hour? I'd drop out of college and become a lettuce picker in a heartbeat. This man has no grasp on even the basics of economic reality. - beakerwimp, on 08/27/2008, -1/+19Ouch. The clip linked to by Shiftgood is precisely the context people are asking for. It clearly shows that McCain was saying there are jobs that Americans are not willing to do. When the crowd questions this McCain reiterates his point. Not very good for McCain. Here's a decent transcript:
MCCAIN: "I don't think I need to tell you that there are jobs that Americans will not do. I don't think I have to tell you that there uh are... the backbone of our economy... [angry crowd interrupts to tell McCain that Americans are hungry for work and are willing to step up to the plate - the only clearly audible part is 'pay them the right wages'] ...you know, I've heard that statement before and, my friends, I'll offer anybody here 50 dollars an hour if you'll go pick lettuce in Yuma this... this season and... and pick for the whole season. [crowd starts groaning again] So, okay... sign up. Okay. When you sign up, you sign up and you'll be there for the whole season. The whole season, okay? Not just one day... because you can't do it my friend."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pu5nf8dAU
Shiftgood, I hope you don't mind if I repost this for other people asking for context. Good job finding this extended audio. - b3and1p, on 08/27/2008, -10/+28What a drama queen
- kgalyen, on 08/27/2008, -2/+20Oh that pisses me off. I know plenty of hard-working people. I myself worked in sawmills stacking wood, working 13 hour shifts. Eight friggin bucks an hour at the time. My dad worked even harder and still does....twenty bucks an hour. Oh this man never ceases to piss me off. (worthy of saying twice)
- leerayIG88, on 08/27/2008, -3/+19I wish I got paid for my job.
- ArthurSucks, on 08/27/2008, -7/+23I'm not your friend, Buddy!
- engelb15, on 08/27/2008, -0/+15Cut him some slack... he was using the new 'fuzzy math'
- tacroy, on 08/27/2008, -3/+18Anyone know where the rest of the video is? It cuts off mid sentence.
- chrissku, on 08/27/2008, -1/+16Jay Leno: So how many houses do you own Senator?
McCain: I spent 5 miserable years in that camp. I was a POW you know.
Yea John we know. You use the acronym POW in all of your sentences. You're like the Rudy Giuliani of the Vietnam War. -
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