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- AtHomeBoy2000, on 05/21/2008, -25/+292Dude, this guy blows Wright out of the water.
- IbbyIbby, on 05/21/2008, -12/+133For all the people who think Obama will have trouble with the Jewish vote , good luck McCain.
- ChristPissed, on 05/21/2008, -16/+135Its OK to say nasty religious ***** if you're a white republican, at least according to the MSM perception management.
- Neticule, on 05/21/2008, -13/+99here is the audio via youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErC1IJeHnyc
the crazy sermon starts about 30 seconds in - ninjaface, on 05/21/2008, -14/+96Where is the rabid media converage? Where are all the pundits who are calling for McCain to answer for his pastor's actions? Obama was just about crucified for what his pastor said, and it pales in comparison to this nazi loving freak.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -25/+82Hello! This isn't an issue for the following reasons:
Hagee is not Rev. Wright.
Hagee is not Obama"s pastor.
Hagee is not black.
Finally, Hagee cannot be connected to Obama in any way.
Perhaps if there is a picture of Hagee having a cup of coffee with Obama, than maybe.
/sarcasm - whatthefu, on 05/21/2008, -9/+62To clarify: Hagee says Hitler was fulfilling God's will in getting the Jews back to Israel. It's still despicable, but from the title I thought it meant Hagee said Hitler was fulfilling God's will of trying to wipe out Judaism.
- grlykool, on 05/21/2008, -7/+49But he's not a scary black man! I don't like Parsley either, that "WE get off on war" quote is just scary. I've been to his church to btw. I've been to Hagee's church too, sadly this is something that a lot of ppl buy into. A lot of these preaches sell out for money.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 05/21/2008, -33/+73The God I know and worship wants to convert the Jews to follow Christ, not purge them from the earth in concentration camps.
- arclite, on 05/21/2008, -2/+40Couple that with Prescott (grampy) Bush selling war material to the Nazis after our steel embargo took effect and you have a truly bizarre scene in the Knesset.
The Grandson of a Nazi-supporting traitor (yes, giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war is treason) addressing the Israeli government, and denouncing his political rivals as being the type to appease Hitler.
The mind boggles. - theocracylooms, on 05/21/2008, -6/+39Hagee and his crew have actually done worse things....
Coming soon, to a YouTube near you. - bmdubya, on 05/21/2008, -4/+35Take away the /sarcasm and you have a true statement.
- pintomp3, on 05/21/2008, -2/+33most of the religious right say things that are worse than anything wright ever said. billy graham talked about not trusting jews. falwell, james dobson, and david wilkerson blamed 9/11 on our tolerance of gays. hagee blamed katrina on gays and the gaza pullout. yet they remain close to political figures, have huge megachurches, and have broadcast networks spewing their venom.
- arclite, on 05/21/2008, -9/+37Now, can I get an over/under on whether the MSM will pick up on this or drop it?
- grlykool, on 05/21/2008, -1/+27Wait till you hear Parsley. "WE get off on War" really who says that? Where is that in the Bible?
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -3/+28Imagine if McCain had spent a year seeking out this guy's endorsement. Then imagine if McCain stated, that Hagee "supports what I stand for and believe in."
Oh, wait. McCain did BOTH of those! Wow. - bmdubya, on 05/21/2008, -1/+25This won't impact the Jewish vote for McCain because the MSM won't pick this up. And we all know that the MSM controls who this country votes for.
- helouise, on 05/21/2008, -2/+24Hagee believes Jews must convert or die.
Oh, and he thinks anti-semitism is the Jews own fault. They were cursed because once they worshipped false idols. So now they get what they deserve.
Not much room for any love in Hagee's world. Didn't Jesus say something about love, or am I mistaken - zephyear, on 05/21/2008, -4/+25joe liebermann officialy counted out as vp
- grlykool, on 05/21/2008, -1/+21Heck the MSM didn't say anything about Bush's family's Nazi ties. That's what killed me about Bush's speech. His granddad was a Nazi collaborator!!
- WasabiBomb, on 05/21/2008, -3/+21Charlotte- please give examples of what, exactly, was "race-bating" about Wright's comments. While you're at it, please explain how Wright's statements are worse than WANTING TO BRING ABOUT THE APOCALYPSE in any way.
- bruinator, on 05/21/2008, -26/+44really everyone? this is different than wright/obama in the regards that McCain did not voluntarily attend Hagee's church for over 20 years and serve as an active parishioner sitting in the front row every sunday, unlike Obama who did not bother to question his pastor's radical beleifs until it was politically relevant for him.
Hagee has chosen to support McCain but McCain should not be held to account for Hagee's actions, neither should Obama, but Obama needs to explain his judgement in entertaining his pastor's ideas. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -8/+26..............................................._,,,,-------,,,__
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...............................................................| - AtHomeBoy2000, on 05/21/2008, -2/+19this is kind of a major statement, especially with Bush comparing Obama to the Nazt appeasers last week.
- Rodalli, on 05/21/2008, -9/+26Actually, this isn't so crazy if you talk to Old Testament scholars. It's commonly accepted by those in the field that God (Yhwh to the Jews) often used foreign powers or leaders (by foreign I mean not of Jewish blood) to exact vengeance upon the Jews for breaking God's commandments, or to even act as messiahs to deliver the Jews from the hands of their enemies or from destitution. This can be seen in the fall of Jerusalem, captivity among the Babylonians and freedom and return of Jewish lands by Cyrus.
The parallels between those biblical events I speak of and the events of World War II are incredibly striking, and many scholars have conceded this.
None of this is to say I approve of Hitler, or the terrible crimes against the Jews, or even of Mr. Hagee himself. I'm just saying that Mr. Hagee made a valid scholarly point for a minister to make, even from a Jewish perspective. It's likely that his words are being taken out of context to imply that he or God approved of Hitler's crimes and to cast an undeserved strike against McCain.
I'm voting for Obama, and there are good, well-constructed political and ethical reasons not to support McCain and his cronies. However, the comments of Mr. Hagee are not one of them. - altgeeky1, on 05/21/2008, -3/+19The media won't cover Hagee because Evangelical Christians have a LOT more Advertiser Influence, know more Important People, and probably Own Stock in said media networks. It's not good press to cover what "religion" says, unless it's an Angry Black Man.
The media is the big enabler here...
... if just one reporter asks McCain about Hagee, McCain will blow up and say "That's ENOUGH... next cookout of mine, you get NO BURGERS. Got it, Hot Dog Boy??". The other reporters will laugh, give the first reporter a glare, and then ask McCain if he wants them to run out for coffee or doughnuts.
McCain reminds people of that "Gold Watch" guy from Pulp Fiction, and you have to like him for it, crazy as he is. - zmjone2992, on 05/21/2008, -4/+20You KNOW God?
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -0/+16In February, McCain stated that Hagee "supports what I stand for and believe in."
- thirdcoastborn, on 05/21/2008, -1/+16the bible says....there is a time for war and a time for peace. parsley is just another religious nut who makes real christians look bad.
- dtfinch, on 05/21/2008, -0/+14You misspelled Hagee.
- TheZorch, on 05/21/2008, -0/+14People like Hagee are false prophets and liars, they claim to know the word of God but in the end they twist it so it supports their own agenda.
- Nougat, on 05/21/2008, -2/+15Summary:
According to Hagee, God allowed Hitler to perpetrate the holocaust in order to convince the Jews to return to the land of Israel. - hipnerd, on 05/21/2008, -0/+12@Pillage: The grandson of a Nazi can certainly come out against Nazism. But I think it sounds hollow unless he acknowledges the Nazi roots in his own past. Bush has never acknowledged that his grandfather was a Nazi profiteer.
- arTech, on 05/21/2008, -4/+16Too bad no one on Fox News, MSNBC, CNN will pick this up and run it.
- kc23266, on 05/21/2008, -5/+17McCain actively saught Hagee's endorsement.
- theocracylooms, on 05/21/2008, -0/+11That's part of the theological scheme too, now that you mention it:
In Hagee's theological end-times scheme, all Jews who don't convert to Christian die. Thus, Judaism vanishes from the Earth. - Mabx86, on 05/21/2008, -7/+18This is a totally different situation, McCain does not look onto Hagee as a leader like Obama did to Rev. Wright.
- jwarcd, on 05/21/2008, -5/+15This guy has followers? Sheesh.. We're in trouble...
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -2/+12John McCain does. In February, McCain stated that Hagee "supports what I stand for and believe in."
- Pillage, on 05/21/2008, -0/+10I always figured McCain would pick a Mexican or a women, or a Mexican women.... in a wheelchair.
- GrodyChamp, on 05/21/2008, -19/+29Funny how McCain didn't go to his church for 20 something years. Hooray for more ***** Obama spam!
Damn it I can't wait for this election to be over so we can have Digg back from huffingtonpost spam - Max94520, on 05/21/2008, -9/+18Hagee and John McCainsane are a perfect couple. I'm so happy they found each other.
- Esstee, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11Apparently... if you ask to get to know him(sincerely), you will come to know him.
Can't speak for everyone but this seems to be some sort of divine promise or something. - BlacklabelSAR, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11Well I hang with God on a regular basis. We have a few beers and he goes on and on about exactly who is and is not worshipping him. And I say, "dude (I call him dude) get some self-esteem. You don't need to be worshipped to be cool. Control freaks are not popular" and then he usually says something like "Yeah I know, but sometimes I just need to smite someone".
And I'm all like "behavior mod dude, behavior mod". - postalblowfish7, on 05/21/2008, -7/+15the MSM won't care. they only like video.
- iAlex, on 05/21/2008, -7/+15Read "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" by Antony C. Sutton to see WHO really funded the Nazis.
Read it online here: http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html or here http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_stree ...
or buy it from Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-Hitler-Antony-Su ...
"Makes Every Previous Book on World War II Obsolete.
Finally, a distinguished scholar has penetrated the cloak of falsehood, deception, and duplicity that for more than thirty years has protected one of the most incredible secrets of World War II: the support from key Wall Street financiers and other international bankers in subsidizing Hitler's rise to power.
Professor Antony C. Sutton proves that World War II was not only well planned, it was also extremely profitable—for a select group of financial insiders. Carefully tracing this closely guarded secret through original documents and eyewitness accounts, Sutton documents the roles played by J.P. Morgan, T. W. Lamont, the Rockefeller interests, General Electric Company, Standard Oil, National City Bank, Chase and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, and scores of other business elitists.
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler shows how the bloodiest, most destructive war in history was financed and promoted. It is sure to spark angry denials and heated debate." - JosephStalin, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism
From Christian Zionism:
Christian Zionism or Restorationism, is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy. Some Christian Zionists also believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism, mainly in English-speaking countries outside Europe. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10lol, as opposed to the ones who "actually" know what God wants?
- pilobilus, on 05/21/2008, -2/+9"why did we split up palestine and give the jewish people Israel after WW2? Someone inform me on why, drop some knowledge on me!"
The sad truth is, antisemitism was the main motive. After the war, the Allied powers faced a serious problem: What to do with all those displaced Jews? Nobody anywhere wanted them. They certainly weren't welcome in Russia, England, or the United States. Enter the Zionists: "Give us Palestine and you will not have to live with us in your own towns and cities, plus, as puppet rulers working on your behalf, we will give you a springboard for military control of all the oil in the region."
The rest, as they say, is history: We created a Fascist pseudo-democracy where some religions and hereditary backgrounds are MUCH more equal than others, and have been propping its economy up ever since. For our trouble the United States gets nothing in return, and frankly why should we, considering that we created Israel to be a dumping ground for unwanted people in the first place? It's just karmic justice, that Israel exercises more control over U.S. politics and foreign policy than the U.S. does over Israel's - the price we pay for helping the Zionists stomp down the natives of Palestine (Christian and Jew as well as Muslim), in an attempt to create a surrogate State to do our bidding. -
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