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- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -7/+25I can't believe some of the political people who are supposedly influential and inside the beltway power brokers say Obama won because this race was about sexism.
I mean come on.
I knew there was a reason why I thought political science majors in college were douche bags. - mcool119, on 06/04/2008, -4/+21The Obama and Clinton platforms are nearly identical, so, just for the purpose of rhetoric, let's say they were exactly identical. Most Obama voters would have voted for Clinton, at least before most of her conniving bitchery, indicating that Obama's voters generally do not weigh gender as an issue. Most Clinton voter would not vote for Obama, indicating that THEY are the ones who consider gender an issue. Also, many Clinton supporters have said that they would sooner vote McCain than Obama, indicating that race influences their decision as well.
So, to put it bluntly, Clinton's supporters are both more sexist and more racist than Obama's. The plain, unadulterated hate speech that I've personally heard from Hillary's supporters about Obama backs up this conclusion. - NyteStarNyne, on 06/04/2008, -9/+26Chocolate Reign... Some will cry for Hill and vote McCain... Chocolate Reign....
- Br3ach, on 06/04/2008, -6/+21He played the game better, period. Was better organized and handled himself very well admidst the slightest opportunity to make him look bad was taken with full force.
Hillary lied repeatedly and didn't have a clear message, and never planned for a long campaign. - sjug, on 06/04/2008, -11/+23The disappointing part is that it wasn't the insanity of his competitor that made him win.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -7/+18I wonder if they'd say the same thing about racism if Obama were to lose the election. Sadly, I doubt it.
- NoDrama, on 06/04/2008, -4/+14That seriously oversimplifies it, elshiz - he had a much broader coalition, including many women of ALL ages, just as Hillary had numerous well-educated men of every skin-color. The sad thing is she squandered her real moment in the limelight last night: http://obamesque.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/clinton- ...
But to suggest it was sexism that allowed Obama to prevail is sound-bite thinking, so we'll probably hear it over and over. - TGMD, on 06/04/2008, -7/+16No... It wasn't because of sexism, nor was it because of activism... it was because his competitor was a cold-heart disingenuous bitch
.... just a thought. - tolgafiratoglu, on 06/04/2008, -3/+12For a long time I follow Digg. There are some subjects {Obama, Apple, Solar Energy, Linux, anti-Microsoft}. OK, I'm personally happy to see these topics around but I doubt on something, would you please answer my following questions:
1. Would you tell me when did you visit the "upcoming" page?
In upcoming, in all topics the web sites are waiting with 2-3 diggs, even with good themes. Some of them wait days to collect 10-20 diggs with great themes. But sometimes, I see an article which jump to front page in 2 minutes with 300+ diggs. It's honestly impossible. Because noone really visits and cares upcoming part.
2. There are some important number of people anti-Obama here (meanwhile for me Obama is the best candidate) why don't we see Hillary or McCain supportive articles jumping to front page? OK, most of digg users love Obama but some 1000s also love others. The same thing for Microsoft, there are Microsoft fans here also.
Well, my doubt is: Since
1. All popular topics are fixed to several themes.
2. Upcoming pages are not that popular, not visited and cared much.
3. Most popular articles of last 365 days come from same 20-30 users. (I read it from Wikipedia, read Digg article)
I guess, there are some super moderators, who have a high voting right (or the owner of the site) which choose some topics to jump front page with some random high initial diggs. When a site jumps to the first page, the remaining diggs or comments are easy, because the crowd follows the first page.
Burry it, love it, hate it. Think of it. - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -2/+11My thoughts exactly. I was asked at school last week if I were an Obama supporter, to which I simply replied "No, I'm not". Her next question was "Why, are you racist?". I was insulted, but I imagine she's not the only ignorant Obama supporter. She must really believe Obama is perfect, and the only people who don't support him are racists. No, I don't support him because of his socialist ideas.
- akatherder, on 06/04/2008, -2/+9How can you tell the difference between a white vote and a black vote?
Actually scratch that... it sounds like a setup to a punchline I probably don't want to hear. - queenstarsha, on 06/04/2008, -0/+7if you want your candidate to win a national election, you need to stop demonstrating that your candidate's supporters are smug judgmental *****. that is: we need hillary supporters, who are NOT stupid or old or lazy, in november.
- retawd, on 06/04/2008, -4/+11Oh boy. Who didn't see this coming. If Clinton won, it would have been racism. When Obama wins it's sexism.
Why not just play the elections in the same way some deranged parents have demanded of kid's sports? Everyone's a winner! Isn't there room in the Oval Office for more than one president so no one has to feel like a loser? - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+7
Of course they would point out dems like those in west virginia are uneducated and racist. Oops, they already did that. - elshizzo, on 06/04/2008, -12/+18Obama had the activists, the young, and the educated. Hillary had the inactives, the old, and the ignorant. Which base says better things about the candidate?
- Drahkar, on 06/04/2008, -0/+6I was going to respond to your comments and point out how many inaccurate statements you made then I suddenly realized that there would be no point. The fact you would make these comments without actively looking into what you were talking about (Which is apparent when you are describing Obama as doing what Clinton was.).
- Midoc, on 06/04/2008, -3/+9If Ron Paul works with Obama he runs the risk of losing the part of his fan base that is made up by the insane, something that would be good for most candidates, but for him it would mean losing a good 60-90% of his followers.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -3/+9FACTS -
90% plus of blacks in recent states voted for Obama.
You can call Hillary supporters sexist but Obama supporters take the cake when it comes to race biased - racism. - mcool119, on 06/04/2008, -0/+5No, not really. Hers was much closer to Obama's.
- lineweight, on 06/04/2008, -8/+13Well that and Hillary acts like a spoiled 8 year old.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4
Frito's message:
I like money. - Baldar, on 06/04/2008, -4/+8And all the Hillary bashing on this website by the Obamabots is just fine, because they were on the right bandwagon this month?
- sponeil, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5You keep on believing that in your own little world. I saw him in a debate, and he did very well. I feel certain he will look a lot better than McCain in a presidential debate. Early on in the race, most black people voted for Hillary because they didn't believe Obama could win. It wasn't until he became more popular, and until Hillary's campaign got nasty, that most of them switched over to Obama. If it weren't for white racists saying they'd vote for anyone else before Obama (and Republicans voting for Hillary to screw with our primary), he would've won the nomination in a landslide already, and he would've won because he's the better candidate by far. Hillary has always been the worst candidate.
- ArchieAndrews, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4Perfect cadence, well done.
- Codwhy, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4how could you be burying him?
dugg for being completely accurate - Corrosionx, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4So true. You never run out of reasons to think that about them.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5That's *****. He lost in WV, and the blame was racism.
- mcool119, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4Digg has a serious case of hivemind going on.
- ancalagon73, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5Obama didn't win because of racism. I believe Obama won because people are sick and disgusted with what the last several administrations have done to this country. Yeah, Bush screwed things up royally, but the problems started long before him. The politicians are all self serving jackasses whoring themselves to the highest bidder and not caring what happens to the people of this country in the process. Obama has been the only politician that I remember in a long time that actually talks to the people like they are adults. Obama might not have the experience that everyone else does, but that might be a good thing. I say give him the White House for four years. He can't possibly screw things up more than they already are, and if he does we give it to someone else in '12.
Plus are you gonna deny that there were women out there that voted for Hillary just because they want to see a woman in the White House? How about white folks that would not vote for Obama because he his black? That door swings both ways. - flink405, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4Irony of ironies...remember Bush vs. Gore?
Gore won the popular vote, Bush the electoral vote.
Bush became President.
Selected, not elected was what they said about Bush....
Now 2008 Obama vs. Clinton.
Hillary gets the most popular vote, Obama wins by delegates (and had to use the Superdelegates).
Obama is the Democratic nominee.
Selected, not elected was what they said about Bush....
goes for Obama, too.
The irony of it all.... - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3Sounds like you're definitely helping unify the party. Nothing like belittling your fellow party members to accomplish that goal.
Wow, talk about unity. I have a feeling that this fiercely contested primary season may end up hurting the Democrats chances at the White House come November. Considering I haven't seen to many Republicans shredding each other apart the way the Obama and Clinton factions have. - yojiffyskippy, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3Of course they will. Did you already forget about West Virginia? But you can't blame the voters for selecting him based on race during the Primary. They had to base their decision on either race or sex because Obama and Hillary are basically the same politically.
- tchynerd, on 06/04/2008, -7/+10Where the ***** did all the neo nazi ***** come from?
- theaceoffire, on 06/04/2008, -2/+5Is there any reason Ron Paul will not work with Obama?
Do they not both wish for change? - mcool119, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4The Hillary bashing I've seen has amounted to "she's a bitch." The Obama bashing is more like "he clearly came straight from Satan's group of closest confidantes."
- PhantomBantam, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3Ron Paul has worked with much more liberal people than Obama, such as Barney Frank, and Kucinich. Ron Paul would work with Obama to do stuff like: end the drug war, end arming different countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel, end military presence all around the world, open trade with various countries like cuba and Iran, go to the gold standard, etc.
But only one of them is for all those things. - inactive, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3Yeah, all 10 of them can really make a difference!
;) - Codwhy, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4but im sure he would gain alot of supporters as well- considering some of the lunatics would be gone
even though i am already voting for obama, if ron paul was in the picture i would put alot more effort into doing whatever i could to help foster support for them. - treas, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4Godwin's Law
this thread is over. - yojiffyskippy, on 06/04/2008, -0/+3I'd have to agree with Baldar. The Hillary bashing seemed to be more prevalent and more vicious than the Obama bashing. But in the end, both sides will ultimately vote Democratic when it comes time to vote so it didn't really matter which of them was nominated. What now matters is if Obama can beat McCain which is yet to be determined. And contrary to all the Obama-bots on Digg, the outcome cannot be predicted by any polls at this point in the General election.
- yojiffyskippy, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4That's a very interesting question. Some could argue that racism is part of the reason he was nominated because most blacks voted for him. While some could argue that racism is why he almost didn't get nominated because some racists whites didn't vote for him. It would be interesting to see an unbiased study to see which of these factors were larger. Too bad there aren't any unbiased sources that can be trusted to do a study like this. Three things are for sure about the first black presidential nomination.
1) The Obama camp will attempt to exploit it by calling non supporters racist.
2) The McCain camp will attempt to exploit it by rallying racists.
3) Both camps will accuse the other of these tactics. - Twenty, on 06/04/2008, -1/+4The real reason is because Obama wouldn't rig the elections.
- FritzKatz, on 06/04/2008, -2/+5I think you've hit upon something here -- Digg must be set up just like the US Democrat party. There are "some super moderators" i.e. Super-delegates who control the real vote.
What the common people vote for doesn't count. - queenstarsha, on 06/04/2008, -4/+7i much prefer that to mccain's message: blah blah blah no change. blah blah blah yes bush. blah blah blah yes war. blah blah blah no change.
- inactive, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2Okay, in other words it was the whack jobs that helped him win...God help us.
- FredFredrickson, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2It wasn't just the fact that they were political science majors? That was always good enough for me.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -2/+4If he were calling her a cold hearted disingenuous bitch because of her sex it would be ironic. As it is, her actions throughout her political career show that he is just being mildly observant. She has lied, stayed with a philanderer to stay near his seat of power, moved to New York to gain the most easily won Senate seat and told everyone she is a 'New Yorker' at heart, she has affected southern drawls when speaking in the south and made up stories of dodging bullets in foreign countries. She has never spoken a word of truth in her life. She called herself the more experienced of the two when she clearly had no more experience. I don't count screwing Bill as government experience. Her one attempt at helping during his presidency ended up in the most highly ridiculed, convoluted piece of crap proposal for health care ever floated by congress. She needs to get out of politics for the good of the country. Yes, I would say that it was being charitable calling her a cold hearted disingenuous bitch. I would say she is just a power mad bitch.
- inactive, on 06/05/2008, -1/+3OBAMA a few weeks ago, IRAN , CUBA, is not a threat.
Obama today , IRAN is a serious threat.
I hope he doesnt puss out on the town hall meetings , he will be destroyed. -
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