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- daleeburg, on 10/11/2007, -5/+18I love how we are worried about our colleges and terrorist sneaking in, but we have this giant border to the south that people get through all the time.
- Dhalsim007, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Ridiculous. You HAVE to have colleges involved in verifying whether or not students coming here on student visas are ACTUALLY enrolling and attending courses. And the schools need to let the FBI/INS know when they drop out rather quickly before they disappear.
- deadlyseal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Haha. He meant gobs to denote many or a multitude, in this case referring to money. If you replaced 'gobs' with 'jobs' it wouldn't make much sense.. Speak English much?
- ronaldinho, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12Wow, propanganda?
- CaputNoodle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I go to Georgia Tech and from what I have heard we have had FBI on campus for awhile. I think officially they are here for recruiting or something, but they have a permanent office. The person who told me that is a faculty member. With just a quick search on The Google I was unable to find a citation, so if anybody else has heard this, back me up. Not that scary to me personally, because I am a US citizen, but it does make one wonder what they are watching.
- DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I don't see a big problem with the FBI discussing national security with the colleges. There's plenty of sensitive stuff that the government and colleges work together on. Cryptology, aerospace, even nuclear physics. I certainly don't want terrorists getting their hands on spaceships and nukes.
The FBI's not talking about monitoring each and every college student. Just the ones with access to sensitive information. No different than checking up on employees at power plants, etc. - rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Let me guess... Bitter much?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+13Why would they even bother with a bunch of pot smoking, psuedo-radicals who out-grow activism once they graduate and realize that the organization they support don't pay the workers a decent wage, while giving gobs of money to the leaders and congresscritters?
- mrcoderga, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7It is the job of the Thought Police to uncover and punish thoughtcrime and thought criminals, using psychology and omnipresent surveillance from telescreens to find and eliminate members of society who were capable of the mere thought of challenging ruling authority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police - deadlyseal, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7ceiling cat is watching you too..
http://www.deonandan.com/images/ceilingcat.jpg - IADTatami, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Ugh, I just wanted to digg this DaveV guy down, not accuse him of being abusive.
- crashbang, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10"And on the brighter side: think about universities developing research, course work, internships, undergraduate and graduate degree programs, and faculty consulting opportunities that could strengthen the technology and talent pool available to law enforcement and intelligence agencies, including the FBI."
Whoa.
That is a little creepy. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4lot of GOV abuse and forced recruiting of students. they do it in public high schools by force and threaten to and will withhold funds if a school resists, even if the parents demand it
- catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I didn't see anything on that website about spying. Am I missing something?
- earthmansurfer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Many of the biggest dissenters are in the colleges. Think back at all the protests and what not. The FBI is going to keep an eye on all groups that meet (that are related to anything anti-war, anti globalization, etc.) and make sure to keep an eye on them ;)
This is not to stop what CNN is referring to as terrorists, it's to keep an eye on our own people in addition to the terrorists that are currently being bread due to incessant war on the planet. Are we in the virtual 1984 movie or what? And Cheney and now Bush saying they are not a part of the executive branch, avoiding oversight and yet they are paid as the executive branch. Something don't smell right. - Zuggy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The question is, to what extent will the FBI be involved? There's a big difference between making sure sensitive equipment like radioactive material is protected and ending up as a terrorist suspect because someone I know says "Bush Blows"
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3personal experience. ROTC in the schools. tables set up in the lunch room. not for a day, but there a lot, regular fixture.
- rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Check up on NC public schools. My aunt works there and her own grandson was recruited (without his parent's permission or knowledge) and that is illegal. There is apparently a law suit in the works because this was not the only time it happened.
- SuperCUBE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I really wish I could digg down my own comment. What a retard I am. Seriously
- zadadka, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Oh, COME ON !!!
Why the surprise?
This is nothing new.
Colleges have long (50+ years) been the incubation chamber for recruits to any named belief or cause, and if said cause was/is considered in any way "radical" in the incumbent governments' eyes, then recruited members names went on lists and they were watched.
In times gone by, even those that weren't "successfully recruited" would have been monitored for a time thereafter.
Today, those names probably stay on lists...
This is true in the USA, in the UK, European members states, and probably every other country on the planet in some way or other.
Thinking otherwise is just naive.
Thinking that these activities are not in the interests of our freedom and security even more so.
Thinking these activities are about controlling you, and your life, can only mean you have something to hide, are deeply paranoid....or else are easily convinced by the nonsense spouted by others....
....and in a further demonstration of your naivety....
Do you really think that your "anonymously" railing against your government on Digg HASN'T put you on a list?
Anonymous?
You wish. - Alpione, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6I think it's a great idea to get the FBI and/or other security agencies talking to colleges and their student body. We've got a lot of security challenges today that will have to be faced by up-and-coming young professionals. Nice to get a dialog going, especially considering the wackjobs/dirtbags in some colleges that literally curse and throw things at military/security recruiters when they attend job fairs. We need some understanding there...
- michaelinnotts, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I remember when I went to university, they taught us to question everything, especially authority. I wonder if that's still the case...
- ChuckIT, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5it's like when i watch tv, well i really only watch adult swim, but they have commercials for the military and for like ECPI or whatever "Technical" institutes asking people to join for "national security" jobs "network security and surveillance"
- DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3lol @ America the land of the ignorant and depraved...
- Iamnotwhoiam, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3SO whats new?? When I was in college in the 60's the FBI and CIA utilized college staff to monitor radical student activity. Both organizations paid Physc professors to inform them of students that had "special" profiles, and would then recruit these students.
- kaiser44, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I see very little thought coming out of most liberal arts colleges today.
I see the same old tired rhetoric of stupid over inflated self important crap that spewed from semi -political hippie intellectuals who had no where to go except teach that crap.
There may be more diversity in people ,but much less diversity in thought is allowed. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3personal experience. ROTC in the schools. tables set up in the lunch room. not for a day, but there a lot, regular fixture.
- spinchange, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Humphrey < Cheney?
- sundancekid503, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"You do realize that you outnumber your politicians and police officers millions to one?"
I suppose that's why they're trying to get help from college students? I really fail to see what is so "utterly mind-blowing" about this. - wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195053826/ref=wl_it_dp/105-2997744-3658028?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3QJNIR1VNBCG2&colid=13SNXBRCGXU79
- rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'll pass that on and my little sister can "design" your next house. Your blanket-statement bullcrap is inane.
- indicas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You don't need to go to college to learn to make weapons - see Google.
- hydroplane, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's our goverment thats paying them to come over here
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm a double major in International Studies and Computer Engineering.. You would think liberal arts schools is all liberal, but nope. There has been a HUGE conservative backlash in all Universities. You will be surprised by how many people claim to be conservative, and republican... Let me tell you. Many do, and its like a fad.
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm a college student at University of Oklahoma.. The FBI is currently looking for engineering students, and the CIA is looking for a lot of International Studies students.
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1tons of immigrants stay here illegal once their visas are expired...
- StMac, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3More than likely the "terrorists" that will be under surveillance in this program will be student activists and those involved in the anti-war movement. Nice try though.
- TruthWillWin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1everything is suspect!
We should also give rewards to the people that secretly report "a potential terrorist" to the FBI.
Then Hitler's system is in place.Back then we even had a name for the "helpers of the state safety" - NSB-ers. - DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You tend to find those kinds of kids in Liberal Arts colleges. Engineering schools are filled with either Americans who already stopped caring, or foreigners who might be terrorists.
- TheSabre, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Uh oh! You expressed a anti-Digg thought. Looks like you're going to get dugg down for it.
- Alpione, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That's because you base you opinion on FACTS. You're virtually alone around here...
- aukxsona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Drop out, get a GED and go to community college. From there enroll in a Uni. Avoid the hassle. Make sure your Uni is private.
- aukxsona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Wow. Anyone looking for a Biology major or anything?
- spinchange, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1We have secret terror prisons all over the world, The phones are being tapped, Secret National Security Letters (super subpoenas) go out to Librarians, what else??
- aukxsona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1yes we do realize...but why would we want to launch into such drastic action when we can possibly work with our government officials and avoid the bad eggs via capitalism. I noticed very few private colleges of distinction chose to join this effort...some reason perhaps?
- marklittle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It is no secret to students that the FBI has agents working my local community college campus. In fact, many of the teachers openly talk about how disgusted they are by it. They've been there for years, most have deals with the college president which protects their identity - as in, the teachers do not know who all of them are. I do not know why they really bother, not too much exciting stuff happens at small community colleges.
- JDoms, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1A former president of my school had some secret deal with the CIA that got him fired. I believe it was something like having the woodworking majors planting bugs in the the furniture they were building to spy on whoever was receiving the chairs, sofas, etc. I'm surprised they got the craft students to play along with that since 90% of them are counterculture dread-locked hippies and undoubtedly passionately anti-establishment. Or maybe they were too stoned to notice/care.
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1they're watching you. lol I've been to GAtech's campus. very very nice. Its near Georgia State's, and Morehouse, and Spelman University.
- kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The FBI and CIA just like any other employer. offers internships, and employment to students.
- ZWarren69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Most knowledge in explosives is not transferred in college curriculum. They are told by other terrorists with knowledge handed down or passed through other sources, like the internet.
Our own government has a group in the rangers called "sappers." I promise you these people do not learn how to make car bombs with an effective kill radius, from some professor. -
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