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- thedarkrabbit, on 10/10/2007, -3/+40"I think it makes sense to certainly consider it and I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table."
Can you say WHAT A BAD IDEA!!!!!??!!?! - chase001, on 10/10/2007, -6/+42If this doesn't get people in the street protesting in droves we might as well abolish Congress and the Constitution and give President Bush/Cheney the Fascist Dictatorship/Unitary Executive that he wants.
- Albionshores, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Of course it's on the table, even if Petraeus comes back and sings that the surge is doing wonderful things in Iraq (which he probably will and which it definitely isn't) Iraq was never going to be solved in September. If it works, the initiative, they will argue, will have to be pressed home. This means the figures in Iraq will have to stay where they are, high, into next year. It was known a long while back that after the next rotation the numbers could not be sustained without a draft.
You're hearing about it now because they always give you time to get accustomed to it. Abhorrent as it may sound now by then familiarity will take the edge of it by the time it comes. Just like boiling frogs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog - UndyingShadow, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26Yes, good, draft me.
Put a loaded M16 into my hands and see what I do with it - Jambi, on 10/10/2007, -6/+25Their duty? Meaning fight a war so that Mister Spoiled Little Rich Boy and his sidekick Darth Vader can continue playing at nation building while their cronies lap up money by setting up consulting companies in Iraq and hiring on mercenaries to protect their business interests? Jesus Christ, I've met some idiots in my time, but you take the cake, sir.
- subterfuge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19the day that the draft is brought back is the day i come out of the closet.
- nofx1510, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Yeah but having a draft shouldnt be the reason that people should start to care about this country.
I just turned 18 and if this happened and I did get drafted it would completely mess my life up, 1) I would have to goto college later in my life and start my life off on a later page 2) I could die, not cool......I didn't vote for bush I dont support the war why should I have to go and fight for something I dont believe in. Just my opinion... - andrgo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18It's like they're totally ignorant to the pure, statistical fact that OVER HALF OF THE DAMN COUNTRY DOESN'T APPROVE OF THE GODDAMN WAR!
Cripes! How much air do you have to have in your brain cavity to not realize the damn facts?!
By the way: DRAFT THE REPUBLICANS! (They're the ones that love the war so much, plus it'd be nice to get most of them out of the whole country for a little peace and quiet.) - jmpeagle, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2413th Amendment
Section 1. Neither slavery nor INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE, except as a punishment for CRIME whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
How does the Draft not violate that? You'll have to amend the Constitution before I will agree to be drafted or serve on jury duty. - MalDON, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Hey, Iraq war 'boss': ***** YOU
-American Teens - joshshu, on 10/10/2007, -7/+21Try to draft me. Will see if you wanna give me any ammunition.
- Konrad9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13As I said in that posting.
If we have an enemy a la Nazi Germany, sign me the ***** up.
If we're going to get oil, I'm going to Canada. - chase001, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15I would say how could we possibly draft people for to maintain an occupation, but we've done it before.
- wazzledoozle2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14If you were told by an authority figure that getting ***** in the ass was your duty to your country; you would ask where and when wouldn't you?
The concept of obeying authority without question is as un-american as you can get. - g30ff, on 10/10/2007, -6/+18Aha! So that's the reason for the USA's new border security measures. It isn't to keep people out of your country, it's to keep you guys in where you can be drafted...
- weebit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13"DRAFT THE REPUBLICANS!"
Draft their "of age" sons and daughters! A good majority of them are not in the military service. - mikelieman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13What will the selective service administration do when they induct an Out Homosexual?
You DRAFTED THEM. You can't just say, "Oh, you're gay, go home...." - AustinMandi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13fascism=corporate contolled country
I would say that we are most definitely being governed by a fascism. And those who don't understand that are what is wrong with this country in the first place. - ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11It's sad that restarting the draft is what it takes to get us off our lazy asses...
- EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Put loaded M16s into the hands of drafties and have Bush give some speech to them.
- sirbeta, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I guarantee if the draft returns, two-thirds of the potential drafting age-range will suddenly be gay.
- bubbadoo989, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9When Bush and Cheney go to fight in Iraq, I will too.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Thats what people said about Bush getting a 2nd term.
- PJ1967, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Like Cheney, Trent Lott, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay, Dick Armey, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, and the other chickenhawks you could very likely get a college deferment. Or like Bush, if you're daddy is very politically connected, get a cushy commission in the Air National Guard of the state of your choice. You may even grow up to be president and ruin the country.
Now if you do refuse your deferment opportunity and honorably (perhaps, foolishly) serve, and survive, you could eventually run for Congress as a Democrat, following the likes of Jack Murtha, Jim Webb, Bob Kerrey, John Kerry, Leonard Boswell, Tom Harken, and Max Cleland, to name a few. You may recall that John Kerry was "swift boated", Jack Murtha was indirectly labelled a coward on the House floor, Bob Kerrey's service as a SEAL was smeared, and Max Cleland (triple amputee) was labelled a traitor in political ads. But if you think you can be safe to run as a Republican like John McCain, you would be in small company and likely smeared by your own. McCain (tortured POW) was labelled by the Bush Campaign in 2000 as unstable and accused of fathering a child by a prostitute.
Oh, and just to blunt the "Clinton did it" argument...Bill Clinton is not a chickenhawk...just *****!
So, good luck kid, you'll need it!!!
PJ (US Navy, 1986-1996) - tehpwnerofn00bs, on 10/10/2007, -5/+13Hey Mr. Lute, consider this!! [obscene gesture]
- thecapuchin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Since teenagers would hardly be eligible for any sort of draft (barring, 18 and 19 year olds) your comment is more than a little irrelevant.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all in favor of a draft of any sort. ***** Congress, ***** Bush and ***** Anyone who thinks we should even still be *in* Iraq. - MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -9/+17I dont want to sound like a penis or anything, but I hope they start a draft. That way, everyone will get up off their lazy asses and force Bush and the Dick out of office.
- kavery, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Just don't see a draft happening unless we have major troop reductions or are spreading freedom in ten different countries.
If they tried to draft people now, you could only imagine the uprising. Patriotism is dead and GB killed it. - mkline718, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I served in the Army proudly but I don't think this is a good idea at all. Right now the anti-war protests have never really gotten off the ground. Yes there are protests but nothing like what went on during Vietnam. If the draft was put back in place I could see 18-25 year olds uniting bigtime online and on college and high school campus' all over and then the Republicans will be in big trouble come November 2008.
Hooooahhh Airborne to all those that have served!! - montagg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9That's bizarre, coming from a military guy. The military has worked its butt off to drag itself out of the hell of the Vietnam draft and craft the most efficient and effective army of volunteers in the world. Why would they want to pollute a group of good soldiers with ones who don't even want to be there?
- Bdog2g2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10And your name is?
Just curious so I can tell you later when we're in boot camp..."Told you so!!!" - redxii, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I would have never clicked something with a title like that. All I see in the RSS bookmark is the title.
- mikelieman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow.... Hell, it's August... See you here next Saturday!
- spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8or 2 days after the next major terror 'incident'
- Beatus, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12excuse me MR "US military officer in charge of coordinating the war effort in Iraq " can i go fight in a war we started over a national homicide/cover up in a place that had nothing to do with the original "attack".... please?
- ToxicBomber, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11***** YOU Douglas Lute
- AustinMandi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10That is a scarily astute observation.
- reddevil3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Bush should draft his daughters into the army. Any politician who supports the war should force his or her children who are of age to go to Iraq. Especially Romney and all his sons.
- Sgurdcrimp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7IT'S A GREAT IDEA!
DO IT, AND WATCH THE REVOLUTION ENCOMPASS THE COUNTRY!!
well so yeah, do it.... it'll only help remove the ***** - nickmv, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Refer to Arver vs United States for more information. Did the research for you. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=245&invol=366
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Or you could just work for a republican political guy and get out of the whole damn thing like George W Bush did!
- dallascorbin504, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12gee....i wonder if they can draft me when i move to CANADA!?
- jugger74, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That sounds less like a joke and more like a possibility every time I hear it.
- Halleys5th, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6This is pure evil. The "option" to thieve and murder is also on the table.... How can rights be protected by forcibly sending young people to their deaths? If a government is willing to violate the rights of its citizens on just one issue, why shouldn't they do it whenever they please?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Both of them!!
- nickmv, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Military draft service does not qualify as involuntary servitude. Instead, it is known as conscription. Google it
- tehpwnrate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What are you saying? You'd shoot fellow soldiers and draftees? I don't get it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Darkrabbit, the best way to get the lying buttsucking politicians to end this war is to reinstate the draft, or at least get close to it. Americans have not sacrificed a thing for this war. Bush told us that if we wanted to help the cause we should go shopping for God's sake! People really don't give a damn and the war makes good entertainment.
Until it looks like Junior might get drafted and sent to Iraq to lose his eyesight to a roadside bomb the great majority will not put down the TV remote, struggle up out of the barcalounger and call their Congressman.
Hey, reinstate the draft tomorrow! http://reasontraditionandliberty.blogspot.com/2007/08/our-volunteer-army-is-terrible-danger.html - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11The draft will be announced 2 days after the next presidential election.
Mark my words! - fantasticFlan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Mussolini's original brand fascism was an intertwining of business and gov't which is then strong enough to oppress with impunity. The name comes from a word referring to a bundle of sticks, as in together they're stronger than alone.
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