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- juttman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31What about operation human shield?
Sorry for the blatant South Park rip-off - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -35/+55I SENT RECRUITERS TO MY WHITE NEOCON NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE...
It was hilarious. I walked outside to pick up my paper and watched as they walked up his drive past his display of 50 American flags and his Hummer all covered in little magnets. As he answered the door his face turned the whitest white I have ever seen, especially with the contrast between his camo pants and shirt. Luckily the recruiters were able to catch him before he fell down his stairs and carry him back into the house. They had to be careful tho to avoid touching the huge wet stain that formed on the front of his pants. Im going over there in a little bit to see how he's doing right after the ambulance leaves. - airiox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Everyone knows the black guy always dies first in the movies. Smart soldiers.
- BrainInAJar, on 10/10/2007, -4/+17not listening to someone (blocking) isn't censorship
it only counts as censorship if you block other people from hearing him - Cerialthriller, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15they do in my neighborhood
- toxicityj, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16how is that racist at all?
- jmpeagle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13so it has almost fallen to their proportion of the American Population?
- theshizzler, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Maybe its because the military has been unable to use their old selling point to the poor: Free College! Their new selling point is appealing to the patriotism and pride of the rednecks living in the flyover states.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+14So go back to Fox news.
How are they injecting racism? This is numbers, not opinion. Facts, not right wing blather.
Your degree willful ignorance is impressive. The other rightards must be proud of you. - gwolf, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11African Americans not getting in line to be cannon fodder for oil companies and war profiteers.
Where is the down side here? - noobeffect, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11We're sending Americans who are willing to fight over there. The race of those who enlist has nothing to do with it.
- LucasKane, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12He's not a liberal, he's just a moron
- mushroom, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Huge surprise theres a ***** WAR going on of course there will be a drop in enlistees from 2001(peace time) I'm shock its not more, Stop over analyzing everything most people don't like the fact that they could die.
- keyboardduder, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5well, blacks are 13% of the population....... Maybe before they were advertising to them too hard.
- g30ff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Take 2004, the year for which we have complete data. Blacks make up 12.17% of the US population and 14.25% of the US army. That drops off to 11.74 by 2005 but we don't have population data for this year. On the whole, I'd say the data tends to support the idea that blacks, specifically, are overrepresented in the army, not just Native Americans and Pacific Islanders.
His implication was that the powers that be figured they could hide behind minorities, and it didn't work very well this time around because said minorities were clever enough to see that enlisting was not in their best interest. I strongly suspect Vietnam was no different except for the matter of conscription which eliminated the issue of choice.
FWIW It isn't worth the energy to get mad at anyone, but Bajeda did not call poor people black. He made the claim that poor pople are statistically more likely to be black. In the US this should be uncontroversial, but if you have any evidence to the contrary I'd love to see it. - Maddoktor2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Of course black recruitment has dropped off.
Since WW2 military service has been a primary skills training ground for those that never got a fair shake education-wise in our "great nation".
Nowadays, military service is more of a deathtrap than an opportunity for them - go figure... - cassholio, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Hey everyone-it's an ***** that both liberals and conservatives can hate!
- quisph, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Number != percentage. As the *percentage* of black enlistment goes down, the percentage of non-black enlistment goes up, by definition. (They always add up to 100%, you see.) This doesn't say anything about how the overall *number* of enlistees is changing.
- aadyss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2So what you are saying is the entire Republican Party is, but for about five, all ex-liberals who turned to the Conservative side? It's my understanding that is the definition of a "Neocon". How about the ACLU. The ACLU was founded by an ex-communist turned Anarchist and a devout Socialist. There's a resume for you.
- Arcnite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3maybe.. just maybe.. there's not less blacks enlisting but, instead, more whites?
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Mine to
- g30ff, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I didn't get the feeling he was really trying to fool people with his story.
- binaryloop, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2@ mrwiggles123 who asked: "Now who do we send to the front lines?"
Answer: non US citizens.
"About 8,000 permanent resident aliens already enlist in the U.S. military every year, an influx that partially offsets the dramatic drop in Black recruitment since George Bush began his wars. The Pentagon hopes to swell these ranks through a program with the acronym DREAM, that "would tie permanent legal residency to military service."
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=301&Itemid=36 - CosmicJustice, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Vivid imagination you've got there.
- quisph, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Whether or not a person is willing to enlist has a lot to do with the circumstances he/she would be leaving back at home. A bad situation at home makes enlisting look better by comparison. You can't pretend that race doesn't play some part in this.
- Terrk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You know, this is funny.
Considering that ALL armed forces met their recruiting requirements in 2006.
Strange.
And the air force is doing some more "force shaping"
They are cutting over 6000 officers.
Of course, what do I know... It's not like I'm in the military.
Hmm, looks like more anti-war BS.
No one in my squadron has gotten out "because" of the war. It's not the war we don't like, its not seeing our families for a year at a time. Thankfully my next deployment is only 6 months, which totally rules!
A lot of diggers need to understand something, a lot of the army guys I work for, try to get to Iraq. In fact, in my shop, it's 110% volenteer basis. If you aren't in the military, then you don't know much about it. I don't care how much studies you do, or polls you take. Being there is different. Fighting a war is different.
I want to go again, and I tried, but I can't get back to Iraq till June of next year! I really need the money!
We train for this, and war is our job. We train to kill people. It sucks, but its our Job.
You might not like it, and I'm not saying the war in Iraq is right, or that I support it.
But it's my Goddamn job. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2After seeing how Bush handled Katrina, this isnt a suprise
More and more the military is using civilians to do jobs GIs used to do, guard entrances to the bases, do yard maintenence, handle computer simulations, maintain supplies. My dad told me back when he was in the military that they used to be able to hit you and cuss you out and they had to mow the lawns on the base. I understand its to save money now days but in a way its become like they are now just for war purposes only and I think people are recognizing that, there is more of chance all you do is go to war and not do many other jobs they used to - nixfu, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4MILITARY FACTS
..not sure where you got those facts but they read like left wing race-baiting, poor-baiting, propoganda to me... here are some facts with REFERENCES that counter that leftist "i hate the military", only the poor ignorant minorities are in the military crap that people THINK is true when it is not.
THE FALSE LIBERAL MYTH: Military is full of low intellegene, low income, unequal racial make up with more minorities.
THE REAL TRUTH:
"On average, recruits were **more highly educated** than the equivalent general population, more rural and less urban in origin, and of similar income status to the general population as whole. There is no evidence of any minority explotation by race or race-weighted areas"
"The household income of recruits generally matches the income distribution of the American population. There are *slightly higher proportions of recruits from the middle class and *slightly lower proportions from low-income brackets. However, the *proportion of high-income recruits rose to a *disproportionately high level after the war on terrorism began, as did the proportion of highly educated enlistees."
"We find that, on average, **recruits tend to be much more highly educated than the general public** and that this education disparity increased after the war on terrorism began."
** "If one single statistic could settle this issue, it is this: 98 percent of all enlisted recruits who enter the military have an education level of high school graduate or higher, compared to the national average of 75 percent.
In an education context, rather than attracting underprivileged young Americans, the military seems to be attracting above-average Americans."
I have the source of this study...where are your souces?:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda05-08.cfm
But, by all means... don't let the truth get in the way of your anti-amerian, anti-war, anti-military hatreds that the left seems to cherish and hold on to. - quisph, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You do know that not all white people are from Georgia, Armenia, or Azerbaijan, right? Should we be offended by the term Caucasian?
- hiphoc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Obviously that guy was making a metaphor. He was saying that the only people who support this war now are white neocon chicken hawks. Its not racist, but Bush is really pulling the strings of the religious, white and mostly southern base. Every hear him or MC Rove all of a sudden get all Texan? Maybe this dude needed a sarcasm tag.
- keyboardduder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2of course they ***** do, you know anyone in high school!? In the junior and senior years of my high school, they wouldn't stop calling.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Jail is an education now?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Ah the irony in that it was a military victory that brought this nation to birth, and a military victory that ultimately ensured freedom for the slaves, and it was the military that was called upon to force southern governors to allow blacks into college. Yep the military, what a horrible institution.
- LilJimmyNordin, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4If Americans had more access to college BEFORE they enlist, they'd be too smart to bother with military enlistment at all. Nice work, Uncle Sam. Don't give them the smarts until you're done with them.
- CornStarch, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I really didn't touch on the rich poor issue son, you need to lay off the glue (I think it's going to your brain). The military isn't about race and could probably teach the rest of the country a thing or two in that regard.
- FredoBerfil, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Of course the Iraq war is depressing black enlistment rates. Black people aren't idiots.
- Terrk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Spot on, everyone in my shop has college.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1yes yes, the cup is 13% full.
- mikehosek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2"The Vietcong never called me a n**ger" -Mohammad Ali.
Neither did the Iraqis. - LordSlashstab55, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I'd go so far as to say NO one should die for oil. (I know, I'm living in a dream world)
- Tarl, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Breaking: Iraqi war has brought drops in enlistees from all races and backgrounds!
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -8/+9How about some stats that aren't from a right-wing site masquerading as a legitimate source? Anything from the actual armed forces there?
- throop77, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2"Whites, by contrast, were closely divided: 48 percent said military action had been right" Wow. I understand how people could have been fooled into thinking it was the right thing to do, at the time. But, who still thinks it was right, in retrospect?
- FredoBerfil, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1An AA degree from a community college in Alabama in, say, medical assisting or criminal justice is certainly nice, but hardly comparable to, say, a biochemistry degree from an Ivy League university. And are all high school degrees comparable? And what's the breakdown on the household income numbers, and what kinds of communities, on average, are these military kids born into - what kind of opportunities are out their in the communities they live in? Is there opportunities to get into high-tech work, is their high school or college work actually preparing them for graduate school, or are the degrees these military folks getting just sheepskins? I'm honestly curious. I'm not saying this to be critical. Also, why is it that whenever I see documentaries about the military I'm overwhelmed by the plethora of Southern accents? It seems like everyone in the military is from the rural South. Why is this?
- netant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1But easily 33% of the people that make up the bulk of the US military are reservists and nat'l guard. They are not career soldiers. And they are entitled to get cranky when they have to rotate in once every three years, and some once every other year. They joined for what they feel is their patriotic obligation. It screws them up career-wise if they have to leave their higher paying livelihoods so frequently (public sector employees less so).
And it should be screamingly obvious to any serviceman of NCO and above grade that the botched occupation cannot be sustained for another decade with a purely volunteer military. I don't shed much tears that the regular army is getting their tour lengths extended, but I sure feel the reservists will soon be screwed over even moreso.
Pro-war diggers, sign up for the war, or shut your piehole. If you think we need to be in Iraq at all costs, then support the draft. Nothing made me more sick than seeing Michael Moore capturing that charming clip of college republican patriots back in 2004. That's how neocons view the war. Its such a screwed up situation out there, its pretty idiotic to think three different cultures are all going to sing kumbaya together as long as the US keeps volunteering to be blown up out there for another decade. I'm not going to bother pointing out the financial implications of the war, because anyone who can understand it, cannot possibly be in favor of a protracted occupation. - aadyss, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I support the war. So that means I'm mean spirited, racist, homophobic, a chicken hawk...."child molester?", neocon, although I'm 66 years old and have always been a Republican, I'm white and not feeling sorry for that, probably hate children, although I have 2 children and 5 grandchildren, hate the poor 'cause I never realized I was one of the John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton rich, I believe in the Constitution, so I fought Lyndon Johnson's war. I watch Fox News because I believe in the 1st Amendment just like you, although it's the libs railing against Fox since Fox doesn't agree with them. Oh, let us not forget the really, really bad part of my life...I'm also an Evangelical Christian, which also is covered by the 1st amendment. What the Liberal/Progressive thinks about me .....don't care and never will. Also lived, worked and traveled extensively in the Middle East including Saudi Arabia and Bahrain for 10 years so just might know a little about that region and how they think.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Inside oppressed people joke
- Metman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So anyone who choses to serve this country (albeit during the time of an unpopular war) are idiots?
- ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Damn, you beat me to it.
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