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Iran War Advocate Admits War Would ‘Unleash A Wave’ Of Anti-Americanism
thinkprogress.org — (Video) Prominent neocon Norman Podhoretz, who has just published an essay titled “The Case For Bombing Iran," admits in an interview that "if we were to bomb the Iranians as I hope and pray we will, we’ll unleash a wave of anti-Americanism all over the world that will make the anti-Americanism we’ve experienced so far look like a lovefest.”
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These are the "true" Americans that conservatives chose to follow. Look what their goals really are...they want us to be attacked. Somehow it helps Israel. Still feel voting for an anti-gay candidate is really in you and your family's best interest?
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Whose side is he on?
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Why is it that almost every "expert" advocating a war with Iran is Jewish? Whose interests are they looking out for - US or Israel?
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They don't hate us for our freedom, whatever is left of it. They hate us for sending F-16s, cluster bombs, and jet fuel to Israel. Israel is one expensive girlfriend, too.
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OK, so it is official. Everyone agree's that if the US attack Iran, the US will be the ones that take the short stick in the long run...Much like Iraq...we all know how those warnings were heeded - lets see if these have better luck. I doubt it though...
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I'm sure Hitler and company never thought the rest of the world would come down on their necks either.
This is a very real possibility that the authoritarian neo-cons (neo-fascists) don't dare to even consider.
Starvation works just as well as nuclear weapons, it's just slower and more painful, but a whole lot cheaper... -
Two wrongs make a right?
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The problems that the U.S. has with the middle-east will increase 10 fold if they do something this stupid.
Worst thing about the whole situation is that Bush would have no problem doing it. -
I give it 50/50 that it happens before Bush leaves office. They're doing everything they can right now to get the rest of the G8 and the big players in the UN psychologically ready for it so it's not a big surprise when we attack. I don't think they're even trying to win anyone over, just sort of slowly breaking it to them that yes, we're going to attack Iran, get used to the idea. Once they think they've warned everyone, expect the air strikes to begin.
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Why won't the cowardly joos attack Iran?
Why are they always hiding behind George Bush's skirt? -
you really dont have to worry about bush bombing iran because he really does not have enough time.
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Eleminate the threat before the threat eliminates you.
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What happened to an administration using the CIA to topple governments it doesn't care for?
I don't advocate using any sort of force against Iran at this point, (if one sovereign nation has a right to nukes, why shouldn't all sovereign nations have that right?) but it seems funding Contras The Sequel would be a much cheaper way to fix the "problem". -
Did I miss something or does he honestly want everyone to hate us? How the eff does that make sense?
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Isn't it odd that supposedly Christian conservatives get so much advice from people of Jewish heritage? There's nothing wrong with being Jewish, it's just odd for evangelical Christians to take so much guidance from a group they've historically been at odds with. And when Bush and many of his top level advisers went to the pope's funeral. Evangelical conservatives lining up with the papacy. There was a time, not that long ago, when evangelicals would have been storming the capitol with pitch forks for either one of those. But now they're all making happy-happy. Very strange from a historical perspective.
Of course, Bush is a poster child for evangelical Christianity the same way Jenna Jamison is a poster child for celibacy. -
"War would unleash a wave of anti-Americanism."
I think I speak for all of us here when I say "No *****? You think so?"
Whether or not the war goes ahead may depend at least in part on whether the present administration figures that the damage to our international standing (and their domestic support) done by the war on Iraq is already so bad that bombing Iran won't really make things that much worse. I don't think that Iraq has changed their basic faith in the theory of "They'd do it to us if they could, so we must do it to them before they can". In their minds, it's probably not a question of "Should we?" so much as a question of "How?" and "When?". -
I know that anything with the words "Ron Paul" is taken as spam, but... Ron Paul did say this in the first debate on FOX news. They attack us because we've been over there, bombing Iraq for 10 years, and putting bases in Saudi Arabia.
What's the difference between Iraq and Iran? If we attack both, we'll get the same result; mass terrorist recruitment drives and anti-American sentiment. -
This Necon is crazy, their bosses in 70's wanted a nuclear Iran when the Sha was in power
Most of the People hate USA cuz they only search for oil more with Bush that any time, since Bill Clinton presidency most of the world see USA as the worst threat to world peace, even TIME made a poll on 2003 about who is the worst threat to world peace 1st US and then Al Qaeda -
What's the point of going after an enemy... when all that will do is turn the whole world into our enemy? We must look like some kind of tyrannical conquerer at this point... -_-
Why the hell can't we stay out of other country's business? why does this guy pray for war... ***** asshole... -
''....he claimed, that “many countries, particularly in the Middle East” would “at least secretly applaud us....”
It's funny how 'many' could mean just one (israel). The same 'many' country (israel) for which all this mess is happening in that region.
It's also funny how he prays that bombing will occur. the peaceful roadmap of christians. Ah, but lets just bash those muslims. they are an easier target right now aren't they. -
"unleash a wave of anti-Americanism"
but it's okay for iran to help militias kill u.s soldiers and iraqi civilians. iran started a war with the u.s already. 16yr old girl executed in iran. it wasnt because the girl committed murder or caused harm to another person. europeans hate jews because they think they killed jesus, and love muslims because they hate jews. -
true conservatives don't think like this. it's the neo-cons that come from the straussian school of thought.
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Really, what DOESN'T release a wave of anti-Americanism these days?
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I think it's officially time to "head for ze hills".
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"On the other hand — that’s a worst case scenario, and worst case scenarios don’t always materialize."
Uhm isn't the current war/occupation/bloodfest in Iraq a worse case scenario? Bombing Iran would make Iraq look like a playground. -
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“a man who knows evil when he sees it”
Does dubbya have a mirror?!
this dude is a crackpot. i say we "drop" him into iran. -
"Iran War Would ‘Unleash A Wave’ Of Anti-Americanism"
If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.
George Dennis Carlin
Respond to that peace-loving sissies! -
Good God! What the hell are we doing? Please forgive my crassness but if you stick your dick in the hornet's nest, you're going to get stung! First, we support Israel, the least popular middle eastern nation. Then, we attack Iraq after supplying them with weapons against Iran. Twice. We hold Iraqi soldiers hostage for years, denying them due process in ways that are horrifyingly paralell with the Spanish Inquisition. Now, we're actually contemplating an Iran invasion because they really don't like us? If you think you've seen Jyhad, you haven't seen anything yet. This is going to galvanize every muslim extremist across the globe against us. Democratic reticence to intervene constitutes a tacit endorsement of this Republican scheme. Meanwhile, buildings across the country are going to start crashing to the ground like so many games of Jenga while politicians descend upon our last freedoms and consolidate ultimate power in the name of "National Security".
[sarcasm]...but I'M the crackpot...[/sarcasm] -
Wow... bias much? I know that the mere mention of differing world views offends liberals, college students, and teenagers and can send them into whirlwinds of baby-punching rage, but seriously... I'm a conservative. I believe that the government should intrude as little as is possible into my daily life, and pocketbook. I believe that tax cuts for the rich are better than higher taxes on the poor and on necessities like gasoline and food. I believe that there are people in the world who cannot be reasoned with, who only respond to force. I believe that a person can only learn if they are allowed to fail, and that a welfare net that does anything more than help someone get back on their feet is a bad thing. I believe that the borders should be sealed before we even start to think about what to do with illegal immigrants who are already here. I don't hate gays, but I don't believe that homosexuality is a natural behavior; I believe that it is the result of a world that has fallen far from the perfection it once knew. I believe in the potential of science and rational thought, but I believe both are buried under rhetoric. I believe that there are people and even entire nations who hate the entire USA for the same reason that many on the left so vociferously hate anyone else - because they're someone else. While we are not a perfect country, I believe that the USA is still the best place in the world to live. Some day, we will come up with a better form of government, because fifteen minutes of C-SPAN will show you that ours is imperfect, but that better form has not been conceived of yet.
Do you hate me? Probably. That's ok. I don't expect your tolerance; I've found that there is tolerance in this country for every set of beliefs except my own. I'll even give you my home address so that you can come and talk to me about it. Conservatives are always bashed for having closed minds, but I don't believe that's the case. Not that anyone's listening. -
I'd rather have somebody hate America than have thousands dead because we failed to take care of a fanatical Iranian regime prior to their obtaining the bomb.
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The U.S. really put itself behind the 8 ball when the Bush administration choose to needlessly invade Iraq. All that post 9/11 goodwill evaporated overnight, so the U.S is already on everyone's ***** list and it no longer has "goodwill credits" anywhere. Personally, I don't think we'll have an option when dealing with Iran. Ahmadinejad is clearly more dangerous than Saddam, just based on his fascination with Islamic apocalyptic prophesy and it's only a matter of time until war breaks out. The question is: When war does break out, do we want Iran to have a nuclear bomb? It's a tough question to wrestle with, since we've already been stung with a preemptive attack based on false pretenses. It's like the old story about the boy who cried "wolf". We no longer know when it's a real threat.
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Unleash a wave of hatred? If you haven't been paying attention lately. England's plan to knight Salman Rushdie has already unleashed a wave of hatred. Before that, this guy in Denmark drew a picture of Mohammed with a bomb in his turban. THAT unleashed a wave of hatred. You know, by this point, I'm kinda wave of hatred-ed out.
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Honestly I don't care if people who subjugate women and stone anyone with a differing belief or lifestyle hates me, they can go ***** themselves.
Besides they would hate us even if we let them do whatever they want, blaming America or the west in general helps them to distract their own people's attention from what they (the government) are doing, or in the end differ blame for anything that the people don't like. Something like the United States government is doing but they blame terrorists instead. -
What the ***** is he scared of? I'm telling you, this ***** paranoia ***** that these old ***** keep spewing is ridiculous. The cold war all over again, just watch.
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SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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With friends like Israel who needs enemies?
Hear the survivors of the Israeli massacre of a US research ship at ussliberty.org -
The case to "bomb" or wage war with iran can only be made in the face of documented evidence of their plans to bomb (nuclear or otherwise) the USA, Europe, Israel, Iraq or any other country for that matter...
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and yet....and yet......he still makes such a case......cognitive dissonance much?
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USA can do whatever the hell it wants and the rest of the world will be just like bystanders watching somebody getting mugged and not doing anything about it, especially pussy Europe. The only one that and probably will step up will be Russia, and that's cause the one that is getting mugged owes it some money for last week.
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Bloody Hell! when are Americans going to wake up and demand the Democratic controlled senate Impeach that idiot you call a leader. From our (British - outsiders) perspective it looks like US is being run by religious fundamentalists intent on bringing about the second coming! If you guys attack Iran you will be well on track. I do not for a second believe the Iranians pose any threat to the US or Europe and as for Israel they will surely get what they deserve, Karma demands it. Has anyone sat back and wondered why it is every time the US "intervenes" the reality on the ground always deteriorates? The US will destroy itself like every other empire in history only this time it will be death by 1000 cuts.
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You know, the western world had their chance to settle down & become a nice ally with Iran, but they blew it up because those greedy bastards at BP went AWOL when the Iranian government (before Shah took the reign) decided to nationalize their oil field.
Now, they want to waste another money & send the GIs to another hell.
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Does it not worry anyone that Iran has an army? If we strike them, couldn't they strike us? I am asking here. I mean I didn't see anything about a Navy, so transportation seems limited. Still, though. A war with Iran is the last thing we need to sink our resources in.
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A Henry Kissinger wannabe... barf
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Why is America being ran by these ***** jew boys?
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@gabriels
I understand your point, still, the Shah was the choice, it does not matter if you didn't care who it was instead of Mossadegh. What really happened (according to a book I read) is that islamic revolution was going on in Iran, they wanted a religious government (Ayatola lead), US didn't want this to happen for several reasons. Finally the revolution came through and The Shah ran away to Panama for a few years. Now Iran has a parlament and a PM, but Ayatola is the maximum authority. -
Don't these Jewish Neo-Cons realize that they keep feeding anti-semitic "remarks" with their rash comments that can be construed to lean towards the idea of the International Jew who prefers to save Israel than protect the nation he already lives in, (ie. USA)?
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Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. —Matthew 26:52
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Humiliated?? The UK did what we do best. We got our people back without the need to kill a thousand innocents.
To follow the American doctrine we would have punished Iran by killing thousands or tens of thousands of INNOCENT people. Thats not hitting Iran, thats killing INNOCENTS.
I am Very proud of the UK Government. Maybe thats the difference between us.
The reason the female soldier was clothed as she was, is simple. Its not about dressing like a Muslim, its about covering the hair, which is seen as important in Iran. Tourists do it all the time when entering temples etc. Again, there was no humiliation.
America needs to wake up. If you go to Iran, your on your own. There is no way the UK will stand with you. The Australians won’t come. The poles have said no. It will be America and Israel ALONE.
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Something people seem to forget: Iran has the 8th largest army in the world, one of the best trained special forces anywhere, and an active Navy and Air Force. On top of that, they have the ability to fight a proxy war through terrorism. Invading Iran would make Iraq look like a walk in the park.
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My guess as to the point of posting this: Public opinion of our country is more important to the poster than national security & rogue nations getting nuclear arms.
Is that about right?
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