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Investigation Uncovers "Extensive Destruction" Of White House/RNC Emails
edit.thinkprogress.org — Investigators have learned that the Bush administration ’s use of Republican National Committee email accounts is far greater than previously disclosed — 140,216 emails sent or received by Karl Rove alone — and that the RNC has overseen “extensive destruction” of many of the emails, including all email records for 51 White House officials.
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- shawnolds, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27Hmmm..... I wonder if this will make it on to the Major Media News-u-tainment channels. Maybe one or two small spots, but I'm guessing no. Major Media is such crap these days.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13No doubt, if this information were to make even a slight wave on major media networks, the GOP mash machine would go right to work neutralizing the message behind the significance of this particular violation.
- DrDragun, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36Damn, at what point can you lock these guys up? We need a case so concrete that partisan-voting Republicans can't defeat it and divert public attention (such as the Republicans' repeated defeat of the democrats funding proposals to bring the troops home). The maddening thing about this administration is that you can't slam-dunk convict them of much, despite crimes which are obvious to the public. The worst part is that they somehow coerce GNP legislators to continue defending them like some kind of Neo Con mafia! I used to be a Republican, but the party has lost its dignity and lost my vote. The Neo Cons have ruined it. When are reasonable Republicans going to stand up and take their party back?
Pre-emptive war? Pre-emptive war by intelligence that was PROVEN TO BE FALSIFIED no less? Legalizing torture and spying on American citizens without a warrant? Good lord, what does it take? They got Libby, but I really want to see Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush go down. - IslandDog, on 10/11/2007, -28/+3Right......because the media is so Bush friendly.....LOL.
More useless thinkprogress.org spam. - bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12This is a clear violation of public record laws. When are we going to do something about this?
- Hazardc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8This kind of reminds me of the cops/sheriffs around here all using nextel phones for their communication when they dont want to talk over airwaves the general public can easily tap into.
what other reason is there for this other than wanting to cover up things?
public officials with authority over citizens should have no privacy in their work - sirber, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2deleted mails, bring back the backups!
- gus2074, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1If the either party has something to gain then yes it will make the news. Otherwise it gets buried just as too many other important stories have.
- bsmeteronhigh, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Republican #1: "Of course we used the RNC e-mail system. However, we only used it for e-bay transactions. You've seen those adorable Hubble figurines"
Democrat #1: "Yes, we've used the DEM e-mail system in much the same way. I for one enjoy finding hand knitted small appliance covers that look like poodles."
Republican #2: "I think it's agreed that all of this hub-bub about missing e-mails should be forgotten.
Democrat#2: "Yes, I don't think anyone needs to know about anything. We all must work together to keep things the way they are."
Republican #1: "My Delete Key is worn out."
Democrat#2: "Hey, let me show you how to set up a macro that'll do that for you!"
Republican#1: "Who says we can't work together on important issues! Hey, we came together on war funding!!!!!!! - stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yup... the GOP invested media doing what it does best..... keep the masses uniformed and give them another whore Hilton.
- stupidape, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19not likely. criticizing the white house gets you banned from interviews and most americans really don't care that the government has been hijacked by bumbling criminals, its just too depressing...
- robdiggity, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Not *directly* criticizing the white house here per se - the *actual* potential crime here is one of the RNC violating the document retention requirements of Sarbanes-Oxley. This is a serious deal carrying a maximum 20 year sentence per violation.
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3to hell w/ SOX rules, how about Federal Gov't data retention laws.
- hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35These incompetent fools in the Bush Administration make Nixon look like George Washington. Pathetic.
- ZWarren69, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Ouch, that is so true, though.
- 2010student, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20I'd argue that these "fools" are not really incompetent; they're quite competent at accomplishing their own agenda
- hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They are fools because they seem to think that nobody is watching. History has a way of being told sooner or later and in the case of the Bush Administration, history will NOT be kind. This is another glaring example of why the Bush Administration will be remembered as the worst and most un-American Administration in US History. Enjoy the "legacy" Bush supporters.
- moin1097, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1And you are fools if you think anything is going to happen about it.
Unless you've donated $100,000 or more to your democrat then they don't want to hear from you.
- MonsterChaOS, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11How do 30% of people still support Bush and his cronies?
- ZWarren69, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9They work for/with them.
- CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21They also usually think that there's a giant grand-dad in the sky who sits in a throne and throws lightning bolts at non-whites and gay people who want to get married.
- TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3"They also usually think that there's a giant grand-dad in the sky who sits in a throne and throws lightning bolts at non-whites and gay people who want to get married."
Of course, Bush basing must ALWAYS lead to Christian bashing....
Considering that 70% of America believe that the Bible is the word of God, and Bush only has 30% popularity.....looks like you've got your stereotype all wrong.....
But I will probably be buried for defending the truth.... - onlyclave, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Jesus told them to.
- hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's simple. The 30%er's are either ignorant or not paying attention. Unfortunately, the majority of them fall into the first category.
PS: "Jesus told them to" is classic lol...good one. - themightyjobu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They don't listen to Jesus, anyway; their object of worship is Paul of Tarsus.
- liberalplacebo, on 10/11/2007, -39/+4
Smells like....
.....IT IS!!!!!
Some fresh Liberal Stooge Bait courtesy of our moonbat friends over at "thinkprogress.org".- zweben, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23If you don't like Thinkprogress, that's fine. They're biased and I think everyone knows this. To think that just because they're biased means absolutely everything they says is false, however, is not extremely smart.
Read this instead, straight from the US House of Representatives:
http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070618105243.pdf
Or is that not reputable enough for you? (I'm guessing the answer is yes, because you're a troll.) - DrDragun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8ahh liberalplacebo, thy avatar is a green light for the bury button
such is the case with anyone liberal or conservative who automatically blogs partisan like a propaganda bot and has no individual opinions - Eivo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Smells like....
.....IT IS!!!!!
Trolling! Hit up every article with Bush in it, it make you a WINNER!! - swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14I love how wing-nuts use the word "moonbat" like it actually means something. But I guess when you are trying to defend illegal violation of the Hatch Act, made-up words are pretty much your only option.
"Liberal poopy-heads are just trying to make Bush look bad! Waah! Waah!" - TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4"To think that just because they're biased means absolutely everything they says is false, however, is not extremely smart."
That goes to the rest of the Diggers that completely dismiss anything Fox News puts out just because they're Fox News.... - GeneralFault, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"That goes to the rest of the Diggers that completely dismiss anything Fox News puts out just because they're Fox News...."
And yet, when I see a story on here that references Fox news, I actually usually read it, then debate the story on its merits (or lack of), then finish of the argument with something like "It's Fox, so what did you expect?". I don't ask any more than that of you. - hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5If Clinton had done this, I bet money you would have been crying for Impeachment. Hypocrite Alert! Where this article came from doesn't change the fact that this Administration has consistently violated the law an a range of issues, not the least of which are these RNC email accounts.
- zweben, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23If you don't like Thinkprogress, that's fine. They're biased and I think everyone knows this. To think that just because they're biased means absolutely everything they says is false, however, is not extremely smart.
- IslandDog, on 10/11/2007, -25/+2Isn't it great how the front page of Digg is filled with anti-Bush stories. I guess we will be in for months of liberal headlines with the elections approaching.
- DrDragun, on 10/11/2007, -0/+25why must your mind file things in partisan ways? I *want* to be Republican, but these guys are crooks. It's not about your "team" winning or losing. It's about what's good for America. The repubs need a candidate that will stand up against the neo con mafia.
- neodorian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24You do realize that not everyone who disagrees with the Bush administration is a liberal, right?
- CrimsonBlur, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28Digg is filled with anti-Bush administration stories because they are a bunch of lying criminals, not because there is some kind of liberal conspiracy to get stories bashing Bush to the front page. Not everyone who hates Bush and particularly the current administration is a "liberal" or a Democrat, they're simply rational human beings.
- CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Actually, the election-related stories would be more along the tone of "9-11 happened on Giuliani's watch, he was too dumb to move his central office out of the WTC after the first time it was attacked, and he tried to get a crooked cop with mob ties to run Homeland Security," or "Fred Thompson is a well-greased lobbying pawn," etc. You see, Bush isn't running this time, at least while what's left of the Constitution is intact.
The "surge" in Bush-related stories may have to do with a horrid Middle East policy, Justice Department chicanery, and impeachment becoming more than a whispered word. - Hazardc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yeah, god forbid someone bring this into the light.
Hey, if bush does something good and there's a story posted, ill dig that. - hcl40u, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Oh don't worry I'm sure there will be more "Bush visits Albania, thousands cheer!" stories you can bring up to counter the anti-Bush stories.
- hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Yeah another 'blame it all on liberals' fool. Does it not bother you that Bush and people in his Administration are violalating the LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY??! Or does the Constitution mean nothing to you? Grow up.
- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -19/+1BLOG SPAM. Not news...move along.
- hawkeye17, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Troll alert..move along.
- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2@monsterchaos
How is it that Harry Reid has a lower approval rating than Bush and no one mentions that?- CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Is there still a war in Iraq? That's why.
- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1@CheckPlease
bzzt...wrong, but thanks for playing... - GeneralFault, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Perhaps because the percentage of people that know who Reid is and those that approve of him are closely related?
Perhaps because Harry Reid is only one of 99 other Senators and the U.S. population as a whole generally dislikes everybody else's Senator (giving each a national 2% approval rating to start with)?
Perhaps because this is a story about Bush, and not about Harry Reid?
Perhaps because Reid's decisions have not led to:
the death of hundreds of thousands
the reinstatement of torture as an acceptable practice
the suspension of Habeas Corpus
the CIA listening at least once to yours and my phone conversations
your an ass that is trying to change the subject so that you don't have to face the fact that your hero is a lier and a criminal?
Just my guesses.
- smackedup, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Ok let's list all of George Bush's' successes... Ok I'm waiting.....................
still nothing...............................................hm...............................................could it be that he's had none?..........................................Then he shouldn't be President!- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -19/+2Yea, like the liberal congress is doing any ***** better. Lame ass liberal.
- DrDragun, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9the only reason that the liberal congress can't bring the troops home is because the GOP is not giving them any votes to override the president's veto. The democrats by themselves don't have enough votes to override the president's veto so there isn't much they can do to end the war.
They are working on something to revoke the president's commander-in-chief status though, because war was never officially declared so he shouldn't have that status. At least that's what I heard. - zweben, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Well, he's been pretty successful in taking away fundamental liberties.
It's not like that was an accident. - TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1@DrDragun
"They are working on something to revoke the president's commander-in-chief status"
Good luck it will never pass. They can't even pass sensible funding for the troops they sent overseas with previous votes. The liberal congress is about a useful as a dildo to dog.
@Zweben
"Well, he's been pretty successful in taking away fundamental liberties."
Name one, with proof and I don't mean from thinkprogress.blogspam. I mean real proof and Soros talking points.
Don't try the Habeus Corpus one, everyone that has read the legislation and understands the rule of law knwos that is a ***** line.
- ZWarren69, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Moonbats? What the *****? You trolls are jokes!
- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1Yes, moonbats. At least you can read, but you obviously can't comprehend.
- swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Obviously the term "moonbats" is a subtle reference to the recent "mooninite" bomb scare in Boston. By comparing Liberals to the mooninite hoax devices, Conservative diggers like liberalplacebo and theeditor are cleverly implying that liberals are primarily composed of blue LEDs and are easily mistaken for bombs. And they also hate our freedoms.
- DrDragun, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4moonbat is the conservative answer to right-wing-nut used by liberals. I'm not sure what the origin of moonbat is, but it is becoming increasingly popular
both are derogatory terms meant to discredit someone who is too extreme and a partisan zealot who always backs his party in the most extreme way possible and has no individual opinions or reasoning skill - TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0@swrostmore
You are so wrong in your assumptions. Remember, when you assume you make an ass out of you and me and you don't need help making an ass of yourself. Read Dr.Dragun's explanation. It make much more sense than your rant, but even it is still erroneous. - swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Dragun, a wing-nut is someone who is extreme left-wing OR extreme right-wing. It makes sense because if I call you a wing-nut, it implies that you are politically extreme (a "wing" is an extremity) and also a "nut."
@theEditor: If you could provide a similar logical analysis of the alleged word "moonbat" I'd appreciate it. Until then, I'd go with my definition. - iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Come on, throw the trolls a bone.
They're just doing their masters bidding. - moin1097, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Use the internet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat - swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1oddly enough the wiki page does not explain what the word "moonbat" means. Perhaps you'd like to give it a try?
- TheEditor1, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1Yes, moonbats. At least you can read, but you obviously can't comprehend.
- zobs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I start to believe that DEM is also in for some consipiracy -- otherwise I can not understand why they are not really doing much of anything about this whole lying Administration...
- TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The problem lies with setting your hopes in any political party....especially the DEMs....
- PatriotOne, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4And the never ending crime spree by this adminstration still moves forward daily while the wheels of justice has come to a complete stall. I wonder why? Oh yeah.....they are all pretty much part of the mafia like sydication that has taken over our country. The Dems will make sure they show the appropriate amount of disgust and disdain but justice will not be served by them. Just a movie of the week for the gullible public.
For God's sake....hasn't this become obvious yet? Dems/Republicans are the same. Corrupted and moved into power until they are ruling our country. - akatherder, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Every time I hear something like this, I get my hopes up that someone, somewhere will be held accountable. All I ask from my elected officials is accountability (this includes Republicans and Democrats).
So far Libby is the only one who took a fall and he's going to get pardoned anyway. - TomKarpik, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Better get them out of the server RAM, quick! ( http://digg.com/tech_news/US_judge_rules_that_server_RAM_is_a_document )
- DangerCollie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"Some fresh Liberal Stooge Bait courtesy of our moonbat friends over at "thinkprogress.org"."
So what do you call the Stooge Bait from Fox News?
I'll take the company of moonbats over the likes of you any day. - CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2What are all these righties doing on the Internet? I thought they were all about AM radio. And whoreshound candies. And candle making.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2BushCo. is not just a bunch of incompetent fools
It is however, filled with hardcore power mongers with clear agendas and well developed plans.
Nothing happens by accident with these guys, (except for the occasional slip up, or leak).
But even then, a well devised plan is ready and waiting for covering up such events. - earthmansurfer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ok, the question is, will anything be done about this?
This is either totally legit or we are just seeing damage control in action. Where is this story? I can't find it (easily, so far) on Cnn. Not using the search function, just thinking like your "average" news user and seeing what's up. There is so much B.S. there, fear fear fear, ra ra ra, going on there and NO
mention of this? In a time of war...
Tough one to figure out- swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2CNN doesn't report on "investigations" because they are terrified of accusations of "liberal bias." They will wait for the indictments, and in the meantime the GOP talking point will be that this is a "non-story" because no national news organization is reporting on it.
- HallsOfMandos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This is disgusting. How much will be enough to actually get people to do something about this? I used to think that hey, Jan 2009 isn't that far off, let's just wait for him to be gone. At this point, however, I shiver to think how much more he can get done before he leaves. It is time to put a stop to this.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3National news outlets have mostly been reduced to propaganda outlets for BushCo.
Thus the average person is mostly unaware of what is happening to their government.
I'd say that this goes beyond disgusting ... it's dangerous. - moin1097, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1What color is the sky in your little world dragonfly?
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3National news outlets have mostly been reduced to propaganda outlets for BushCo.
- bincoder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Are we sure the gov is not on hotmail? aka now 'windows live' or whatever
microsoft calls the awful thing??
I've lost all old emails and my contacts list too on two accounts,
courtesey of microsoft 'deciding' for me that I MUST, I WILL be Forced
to have the 'live' account instead of a normal account on hotmail.
(even though I never, ever, had any desire to see their 'live' crap
and never ever signed up for it either)
Now be nice to our glorious president! - Dorian822, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I remember when I was younger, in history class I used to wonder what it was like back in the Nixon days to watch your president make life total hell and then do the dumbest possible ***** imaginable for the leader of the free world.
Thank you, GWB for making my imagination come to life. - IllBeBack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What? Politicians being dishonest?
I'm shocked!!!
/sarcasm - mishaco, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2is this worse than watergate and a blowjob combined NOW?!!
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This must be a sensitive topic for BushCo. because this thread is thick with troll/operatives trying to digg down voices critical of BushCo.
- lopla, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Why bother digging up this stuff? They are above the law. They will do as they please and you will like it and no matter what you say nothing will change. Between this and the war on science why even bother living in America. What a cesspool.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And where would you suggest we go?
America's influence reaches worldwide, there's no escaping it.
Also, in my opinion, to do nothing at all is to give permission.
As much as I'd like to, I cannot turn away from the situation that we are all faced with, but all the same, I can relate to your feelings of discouragement.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And where would you suggest we go?
- charmaniac, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hmmm no mention of this on CNN.com's web page.
What a ***** surprise...- swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1CNN doesn't report on "investigations" because they are terrified of accusations of "liberal bias." They will wait for the indictments, and in the meantime the GOP talking point will be that this is a "non-story" because no national news organization is reporting on it.
- enlightenme, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1drudgereport has it
- chopenik, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1So will these ***** catch ***** for this? Hell NO!!! Americanos are too dumb to realize they're being ***** in the ass!
- kreneskyp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I find it amazing that no one has mentioned that ignorance of the law does not allow you to break it. Also, unintentionally breaking the law does not allow you to break it. Its pretty clear cut that anyone who used an account for official business broke the law, and anyone who deleted an email also broke it. The only one who can give them leniency is the judge during sentancing
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