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- mjm871, on 05/28/2008, -17/+320Watch how he describes how they acted when a reporter was with them and when one was not. The rest of the panel agrees
- il2k3, on 05/28/2008, -18/+271...and we wonder why they hate us.
- sb1848, on 05/28/2008, -23/+253this needs to be shown to 300 million americans. it is time to wake up.
- Lagger, on 05/28/2008, -23/+193why are we still there?
- fr0ng, on 05/28/2008, -11/+169So I guess the media didn't cover this because they were too busy with Britney Spears.
America, ***** yeah. - donkz, on 05/28/2008, -11/+166in this world puppy thrown off the cliff gets more sympathy than an innocent human being riding a bicycle
- mrkgreene, on 05/28/2008, -16/+164Some of the most powerful stuff I've seen yet.
- honutt, on 05/28/2008, -9/+123This makes me very, very sad.
- Gillos, on 05/28/2008, -24/+116This type of thing has happened on almost every front of every single war. It is human nature, even with the best of training and intentions things like this happen in war. The best guy you know is capable of every act that brave man in the video just described, if they were placed in certain situations for certain amounts of time. If you live it, you will either succumb to the group mentality, die, or rise above it. But sadly, very few ever do rise above the hate and the fear. And if they do have the courage to do so they are usually ostracized, or assaulted, or killed for doing what they thought was right. Either by the enemy, or by their own people. "I was just following orders" is the excuse and the reason behind so many atrocities.
- coachmcguirk, on 05/28/2008, -4/+80Wow... I was skeptical.. but you're right, that was instense.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -27/+94nothing like turning loose a bunch of 19 year olds with their automatic weapons to cure all of the world's ills and injustices.
democracy and walmart for everyone! - inactive, on 05/28/2008, -5/+68You're killing for democracy.
Is it democracy still? Or is it to fight off insurgents? Al Qaeda? OH I know, you're killing for peace! No, national security. Or was it a "civil war" you were fighting against?
Anywho, I'm sure they'll find more reasons when the present one stops making sense too. - pbrubaker, on 05/28/2008, -10/+66It's strange that I just saw Platoon last night, and after I saw a scene where they invaded a village, killed innocent people, and raped young women I thought to myself, "I'm glad that crap doesn't happen anymore." What the ***** people? Charlie Sheen's character had a line where he said something to the effect of, "What's wrong with you animals. She's a human being." Have they really forgotten that? Do they really think this behavior is acceptable?
And I really hope that he doesn't think that "I'm sorry," is going to save his sick ass. He didn't have to follow an illegal order. But I guess that was somehow harder than killing innocent people, and terrorizing families? ***** him. No wonder the rest of the world hates us. - vinod1978, on 05/28/2008, -18/+74Some people will just say that "this is war", and while to some extent this is true I believe this war is different. Soldiers do not have a clear idea of why they are there, and why they are killing individuals. They can not even tell sometimes if the target is indeed one of the "bad guys" or one of the "good guys". All they see are their brothers & sisters killed for apparently no reason & no accomplishments.
- glowmaster, on 05/28/2008, -3/+58I remember being a Marine in Desert Shield/Storm and saying hello to a reporter in the chow line and got my ass handed to me by a Major for even speaking to him. The reporters didn't get the truth from any source. Nor did they care to. Nor did they have the power to discover it if they cared enough to really try. Americans will not hear the alarm calls over the white noise generators called MASS MEDIA. Gotta pull the plug first...
- G00SEISL00SE, on 05/28/2008, -8/+59hell my friend that is over there told me if they shoot somebody the didn't mean to they just throw an AK and a rocket rpg down next to them (they keep them handy in the back for this reason) and take a picture of it and they just count them as if they were hostile then.
- cannibaljp, on 05/28/2008, -5/+48we send boys into war, expecting them to act like men.
we allow them de de-evolve, and when they act like animals - lower than animals in many cases - we are surprised.
so many years later... we have Shock, and NO Awe. - NelsonR, on 05/28/2008, -4/+45Being a vet like many of you out there you know the truth of this story. There is a huge difference defending ones own country from aggression but we also know Iraq like Vietnam were shams and lies perpetrated by an elite ruling class bent on profiting in one form or another. Like wine you refine with age and being young and fighting these wars you do not have a perspective of governing powers until you age and realize, what the ***** did I do when I fought a wrong war.
Iraqi citizens are just like us humans with a desire to live in peace while raising their children and because of Bush many have already paid the ultimate price for outside aggression from the U.S. - gryphon50, on 05/28/2008, -2/+42you know, during the My Lai massacre, there were certain U.S. soldiers that refused to go along with it. One shot himself in the foot (I guess that injury meant that he could no longer participate in the killings) and at least one other refused at gunpoint (a commanding officer's gun) to follow orders. So it's not impossible to refrain from committing atrocities. It may be rare, but there are good men out there. I just think it's a copout to say, "It's war, it always happens." You know, a vast amount of crime is committed within every society during peacetime and people just don't say, "Oh well. It has always happened" with this air of resignation, as if there is no point opposing it.
- Xfrost4, on 05/28/2008, -21/+60I look down upon the soldier who wants to go to Iraq just to kill, harass, an innocent person just because it makes them feel good. They aren't better than the terrorist. I know some people that think like that, and no I am not anti-American, I just want the ***** war to be over, can't we all just live in peace, *****!
- CrazyArcher, on 05/28/2008, -6/+45That was intense. It's just...*****.
- zeusthemoose, on 05/28/2008, -1/+39We don't allow them to de-evolve, we purposely teach them to de-evolve. In order to kill another human being you have to treat that person as a worthless piece of meat with no feelings, no loved ones, nothing but meat. The generals want their men in this crazed state because they will rush into combat without question. You have to be crazy to run directly into the line of fire if ordered to do so, yet our soldiers do so on a regular basis. They are not acting this way because its who they are, rather they (the soldiers) are acting this way because its what they are taught to do.
- RSS14, on 05/28/2008, -8/+45I hate this ***** war! Bring them home!
- barkus, on 05/28/2008, -1/+32Speaking out does not absolve his actions. I think most people would consider his actions pretty much unforgivable (himself included). But that doesn't mean he can't do the right thing now.
- krts, on 05/28/2008, -28/+59I have no words for this.
- EvilAmerican, on 05/28/2008, -5/+34Well... thanks for posting.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -6/+32that looked more like six to me.
- daEvan, on 05/28/2008, -5/+31I can't imagine living with that kind of guilt on your mind. Although this man should not necessarily be idolized for his actions, his willingness to admit he did wrong and apologize is more than what many other people are brave enough to have, and that is to be respected.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -6/+32you tube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7tBGQZwgY - mattz007, on 05/28/2008, -6/+31At what point was killing innocent people "ok"?
- jascination, on 05/28/2008, -1/+26It was courageous for him to do it, yet simulatiously horrible to hear.
As an Australian, I never get to hear stories like this from our troops. The truth is cold and harsh, and while it makes me question the emotional stability of the soldiers involved, moreso it makes me question the sanity of those who sent them there. Thanks for posting. - ordig, on 05/28/2008, -5/+29so our corporations can make money.
- rabbid1, on 05/28/2008, -9/+32Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
In a controlled experiment, 65% of people would deliver a lethal shock to someone, just because they are told to by a researcher. Studies in social psychology like this experiment show that social influences and authority figures have far more influence on individual behavior than most would assume.
In the case of these soldiers, they are systematically prepared through military training to kill, and encouraged by their CO's to kill. They are manipulated by the system of authority and the perceived social norms that promote the killing of Iraqis.
And while you might deny that any good person or your family or friends would kill an innocent man, Milgram's Experiment has been reproduced today with the same results - 65% of us would kill an innocent under the right conditions.
While what he has done is ***** horrible and makes me feel sick to my stomach, his decision to speak out rather than remain silent and let the killing of innocents continue is vital. - hoodratthangs, on 05/28/2008, -1/+20Does anyone know why they shot some of the people, like the man on the bike? Was he a threat or did they just exert agression on arbitrary victims? This makes me question how many kills are actually meaningful.
- gitonga, on 05/28/2008, -15/+34I love this country, but we are so ***** up right now...
- romeclone, on 05/28/2008, -2/+21Trust me, you're not missing anything. This marine was clearly off the reservation. Absolutely astonishing that anyone supports this ***** for murdering innocent people and not following orders (firing on a Mosque). "It's all the Wars' fault" - God forbid we actually take responsibility for our own actions.
- joegibes, on 05/28/2008, -4/+22Reporter: "What do you feel when you kill a terrorist?"
Soldier: "Recoil." - repick3, on 05/28/2008, -5/+23That was ***** instense.
- bashar129, on 05/28/2008, -4/+22This needs to be shown to 300 million Americans. It is time to snap out of it.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -22/+40Why does the Flying Spaghetti Monster let this stuff happen?
- danomagnum, on 05/28/2008, -1/+19It's never really the bad guys who die in wars. It's the people they conscript into fighting for them.
- grason1129, on 05/28/2008, -2/+20and all CNN plays is stories about gas prices
- iancgi, on 05/28/2008, -16/+33Im sorry but you are dead wrong. It is not human nature to kill innocent life. As he said, "This type of action was encouraged by our superiors." Soldiers are trained to take orders, and that's all they were doing. Only now when they reflect do they realize the horror.
- aliveonarival, on 05/28/2008, -5/+22i am a very, very non-emotional individual but for some reason watching this just shook me to my core and gave me goosebumps. Intense is a huge understatement
- TantrooM, on 05/28/2008, -2/+19I'm gonna have to agree with knumbknuts on this one. If he didn't follow the rules of engagement and his is actually sorry for it, he would turn himself in. He killed people, so shouldn't he sacrifice PART of his life in jail? If he really wanted to repay for what he did, shouldn't he turn himself in?
It's an empty apology, he might not be able to bring back those he killed, but the least he could do is serve the time for his crimes. - TheGooseyOne, on 05/28/2008, -5/+22At least someone on Digg isn't entrhralled by the his "instense" hysterics.
He is the problem here, not the war. There are plenty of order abiding, non-sociopathic marines and soldiers fighting for us. Much more than there are idiots like this. - zeusthemoose, on 05/28/2008, -1/+17No different from Vietnam.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+16I do.
***** up. - source1984, on 05/28/2008, -11/+26hey idiot, in case you haven't noticed our media doesn't get HALF the atrocities that take place in Iraq. You turn on Arab news for a few minutes and you hear the stories from THEIR SIDE, of all the innocent people killed by trigger happy American troops and "accidents."
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