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- airiox, on 01/01/2008, -32/+177You can't walk into someone's private property and disturb the peace.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29679
Despite their message, If they walked into my place of business, if I asked them to leave and they didn't, I too would call the cops. - EatingPie, on 01/01/2008, -21/+126The linked site doesn't tell any of the story. It gives some anti-huckabee statements and then mentions the arrest. The real article is here:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29679
Second, there is no evidence that Huckabee himself had the people arrested. It was most likely a staff member.
Third, they were *inside* his office singing and chanting. This is called "civil disobedience," and it almost always ends in an arrest. I've done it too. Got arrested. It was worth it. And without a doubt, ANY politician/staff would have had the protestors arrested too.
-Pie - newspaperbrat, on 01/01/2008, -30/+127Huckabee grows more desperate by the hour.
- Asure, on 01/01/2008, -29/+103Huck is a scary scary man, thank GOD he doesn't have a prayer!
- inactive, on 01/01/2008, -15/+83While I agree Huck was within his rights to have them removed/arrested. I do think it would have been much better to, I don't know, answer their questions. But , then again, his campaign isn't really about answering the hard questions is it?
- Frostman3D, on 01/01/2008, -13/+61I consider myself to be a Christian, although I don't always live as I should, Mike Huckabee scares me. Anyone that says they try to emulate Christ and wants to drop bombs on people clearly isn't with the program.
- GeorgeWKush, on 01/01/2008, -18/+48If the anti war protesters bribed him with free dental care or Wendy's hamburgers, this would be a different story.
- smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -10/+38I think that if his argument was solid he could have humiliated them and gotten some wonderful press from it.
- mstoneburner, on 01/01/2008, -9/+31Stop signing your posts.
- jeffiek, on 01/01/2008, -10/+26There's a world of difference between "having the right" and "being right".
- Knobbs, on 01/01/2008, -8/+23Property rights are one of the biggest things Ron Paul and any ther libertarian stands for defending. Ron Paul even said he wouldn't have voted for the civil rights act because it interfered with property rights. Yet, these people directly break those property rights and tresspass on another's private property and it's some "facist move to use the police state to bring down the truth."
Of course they should be arrested. Stand on public property and say what you want. Standing in someone's offices is not an option, unless you accept that there will be consequences. - shazzb0t, on 01/01/2008, -12/+26True. I think a real legit politician would try to talk with them though. Huck is a hack.
- t4ll3y, on 01/01/2008, -9/+23Jesus, every time I go to Digg I hate Huckabee more and more.
- COlNTELAGENTPro, on 01/01/2008, -6/+19I liked Huckabee originally but he has been proven to be a total sellout....when he joined the CFR I had to wash my hands of him. As far as the protesters, hey, you went on someone's property and made a stink...you got arrested...Actually I believe Huckabee just wanted them off his property, it was the Cops that choose to arrest or told them to leave or get arrested. I guess they didn't want to leave.
- moxley, on 01/01/2008, -8/+21I am sure that they knew they'd probably be arrested.
As others have insightfully pointed out, this was civil disobedience. We need more of it.
The sad thing is that people expect to get arrested for this. This isn't closing down a street and stopping commerce. A candidate (and even more so people who are actually in office) should give their constituents (or potential constituents) a chance to air their viewpoints prior to moving against them like this.
Of course, this is neofascist America, 2008 - we're past the point of no return unless something dramatic happens.
Two quotes from Huey Long (governor, senator, and ardent critic of the Federal Reserve system who was assassinated while preparing to run for president):
"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come wrapped in an American flag."
"Of course we will have fascism in America but we will call it democracy!"
Very true, very true...and this was in the thirties. - whatthefu, on 01/01/2008, -11/+24***** firedoglake. It doesn't even say ***** about the arrests. It just links to it http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29679
- jmpeagle, on 01/01/2008, -9/+22criminal wannabee?
- Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -3/+14He showed up in his bus. He was there.
- AriaStar, on 01/01/2008, -18/+28Huckabee is just comic relief. He stands no chance. Homosexuality is a choice, anti-war protesting is a jailable offense, what next? I can't believe anyone can take this douche seriously.
- Jareth86, on 01/01/2008, -1/+10What the *****, Huck? What happened to the whole populist thing?
- odigity, on 01/01/2008, -3/+12They weren't Ron Paul people, than were unaffiliated anti-war protesters. Ron Paul is getting associated accidentally by virtue of the fact that his office is next door, and a bunch of Ron Paul people were therefore in the vicinity. This was discussed and debunked at ronpaulforums.com, including statements by actual representatives from that campaign office.
- mstoneburner, on 01/01/2008, -4/+13It's called "being retarded."
- Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -2/+11No one is saying he didn't have the Right to have them arrested. Just that there were better ways to go about the problem.
- GamerVer05, on 01/01/2008, -3/+12No answer would've satisfied them as his position is of the opposite vain. They would've stayed unless he said, we will leave from Iraq immediately.
- YuriSakazaki, on 01/01/2008, -13/+22Why are there so many anti-Republican stories that hit the front page? Every story that I see is anti Huckabee, Romney, Thompson, etc. The only exception is Ron Paul spam. Kinda shows what direction Digg leans in.
- Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -4/+13True.
It shows his lack of diplomacy skills - tomleee12, on 01/01/2008, -4/+13Of course they were arrested. They broke the law. That was their aim, and the arrest was much more effective than if they had just had a long discussion and left - no news there. Gandhi used arrest and detention for his peaceful goals, and Kathy Kelly - a heroic figure in nonviolence circles- knows this. She has successfully exposed Huckabee for one of his weaknesses - and there are plenty others to go around. Thanks again Kathy.
- jstone, on 01/01/2008, -3/+11I'm glad I'm not the only one that is bugged by that. (I don't get why people sign their posts when their name is clearly visible at the top.)
- Soar, on 01/01/2008, -2/+10One more reason to loathe this dude.
- RP08, on 01/01/2008, -1/+9Freedom of speech? That is illegal. Guards. Sieze them!
- Ceeman, on 01/01/2008, -5/+13That site is getting on my nerves. Everyone of their digg stories are just sensationalism without any real substance.
- DiogenesJr, on 01/01/2008, -8/+15"All I was doing was standing on private property, without permission, screaming at someone who didn't want me there, and those ***** arrested me! What an injustice!"
I don't like Huckabee at all, but come on, he didn't have anyone arrested. Someone violated the law and was arrested. - stillasleep00, on 01/01/2008, -3/+10Sadly, he actually does...
- inactive, on 01/01/2008, -3/+10iz at yr office stirrin up the masses
- odigity, on 01/01/2008, -0/+6Stop thinking in terms of parties, and start looking at the individuals.
- smacksaw, on 01/01/2008, -5/+11I'm glad people posted the link to the original. I don't know where FireDogLake came from all of a sudden, but it's a good blog(spam). I just wish these blogs would list all of the links at the very beginning though. I'd rather brief myself, and THEN get their take on it. I don't read the comments on Digg before checking the article...
- Clark3934, on 01/01/2008, -1/+7Looks like Ron Paul's office is not only adjacent to, but surrounds Huckabee's office completely.
- Acewrap, on 01/01/2008, -2/+8How is this related to the arrest of the protesters?
- bluesdealer, on 01/01/2008, -0/+5Well, most Republicans are pro-war (Ron Paul is an exception, hence the support), Windows in its latest iteration is a huge disappointment, and true Christianity (you know, the kind that believes in turning the other cheek, loving your neighbor as yourself, etc) doesn't seem to be what policy-makers are following. In addition to this, I've seen plenty of stories slamming Islamic fundamentalism, as well.
So, is it bad that Diggers lean pro-peace, anti-mediocrity in the tech world, and pro-tolerance? - Nodaki, on 01/01/2008, -2/+7Fortunately someone else has seen those decaying nasty corn kernels stuck in the Huckster's mouth. Who would vote for a guy that doesn't have sense enough to brush his own goddamn teeth?
- Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -0/+5Yea...everybody ...take you dose of big government and illegal wars and just shut the hell up.
Were you one of the Guardsmen who shot the people at Kent State? - da_bradler, on 01/01/2008, -0/+5While I agree with you I do understand why people get mad for kicking them out. We live in a world where practically everywhere is private property, you can't protest on the streets or sidewalks without a permit because it blocks traffic/pedestrians. I mean protests like this is really the only way to do it unless you want to go stand in a field somewhere.
We live in a society where nobody is going to give you the opportunity to spread your message, so normally the most effective way is to use someone else's platform. Sure they can ask you to leave, sure you can refuse, and of course there next option would be to call the police. If you ask me as long as the police/protesters are not physically abusive and the penalties are not to stiff this seems like a perfectly acceptable cycle.(within reason of course).
People voiced there protests in a peaceful(although obtrusive) manner, and the Huckabee team responded in a peaceful(although dismissive) manner. We luckily still live in a society where these things can happen without anybody getting injured(good sign). - R1ng00, on 01/01/2008, -1/+6What it "kinda" shows is those people the are supporting RP are fed up with "SOS" attitude of the other candidates. Extremism is what I'd say about someone that starts feeding ***** to start a war .. not end one. Those are the kind of words used by people that have their heads in the sand or worse ...
You can't arrest them like Huck can so you use words like extremism and truthers in hopes people will agree with you and I guess it makes you feel right or normal how funny is that lol. - shellacked, on 01/01/2008, -0/+5Ron Paul and Huckabee have offices adjacent to each other. Ron Paul's office always has Ron Paul supporters milling around outside with signs. So when anti-war protesters showed up at Huckabee's office they probably weren't that far away from the Ron Paul supporters.
"nearby where a Ron Paul throng was shouting and a group of anti-war protesters..." This implies there were two groups to me.
You don't read much do you? - MforMike, on 01/01/2008, -29/+33Huckabee is an idiot
- Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -0/+4I see you would make a crappy President too
- GamerVer05, on 01/01/2008, -4/+8You think people screaming and singing in his office came there for a chat?
They went there to get arrested and get press time. - Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -2/+6Huckabee showed up in his bus and they were arrested shortly after. What does that tell you?
It tells me that if Huckabee was a straight up kind of guy he would have sat down with these people. Instead he used the heavy hand of Government and forced them out without any dialog. It says a lot about what he would do as President and his lack of diplomacy.
Huckabee has a right to evict demonstrators infiltrating his office. But how he handled it is very telling. - duggreen, on 01/01/2008, -2/+6Ho hum. I guess the only part of this that I'm interested in is the whole WWJD thing. That's pretty cool. I think it represents a turning away from the deified JC and a return to the study of Jesus the man. And, as we all know, at least those of us who have read the bible (which leaves out most christians), JC didn't like money or big rich churches. He practiced UNCONDITIONAL love, tolerance and acceptance of his fellow man. To be able to smile and forgive someone AS they strike you, now that's kung fu folks. The very highest level. Super mega black belt.
- Minarchian, on 01/01/2008, -3/+7^clueless^
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