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- GRTWHT, on 11/24/2007, -14/+259I know the hardcore Ron Paul fans will likely despise me for this, but....this article should be read by all the people who aren't sold on Ron Paul and even those that are against him. It helps convey what I see to be the important message of his popularity:
- Is Ron Paul perfect? No.
- Am I (and many others) convinced that he's the best possible candidate? No.
- Do I (we) believe that he represents the best choice given all the other (apparently) completely corrupt candidates? HELL YES!
As TheTaoOfBill implies above, Ron Paul may be a person, but I see him more as a representative of a mindset.
He's not perfect and I disagree with quite a few things that he is supposed to be in favor of, but he's the closest thing to my views and beliefs and the thing he stands for the most is change. - TheTaoOfBill, on 11/24/2007, -20/+247It's very important to note that this movement isn't going to end with Ron Paul losing. We will vote for an independent next year if Ron Paul loses. And in 4 years we will start looking for another person to run our libertarian revolution and we won't stop until we get someone who respects our rights into government. If Ron Paul loses I can only hope someone like Hillary wins because she will do nothing but push the movement forward. We will have someone like Ron Paul in the oval office. It might not be this year (although I am betting it will be a very close run) but it will be soon. The revolution is not going anywhere. We will be a free country again. That's a fact.
- whch, on 11/24/2007, -13/+125This account of Dr Paul's campaign is almost as good as the music videos created by any one of the many by his volunteering supporters. And it's in the WaPo Sunday edition to boot. Kudos. There's hope for the inner beltway after all. I give it a 9.8 on the positive scale.
- Wulfgang, on 11/24/2007, -8/+116"When conservatives feel comfortable mocking the victims gunned down by Clinton-era attorney general Janet Reno's FBI in Waco, Tex., in 1993, it suggests that a complacent and increasingly authoritarian establishment feels threatened."
Very well said indeed. - Kwashiorkor, on 11/24/2007, -6/+98We need a lot more Ron Pauls in Congress.
- insomniac8400, on 11/24/2007, -8/+92If Ron Paul loses, Hillary or Obama will be president(Hopefully Obama). Ron Paul is the only republican that can win the general election.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/24/2007, -6/+551 word can explain why Ron Paul is so successful, best yelled out by Mel Gibson while wearing a kilt...
- afruff23, on 11/24/2007, -3/+50It is important to note that Nick Gillespie co-wrote this article. He is the editor of Reason, a libertarian magazine.
- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -2/+49I like how they showed what a cocksuck Frank Luntz is in that article. Very accurate piece.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -7/+53Exactly, this isn't a losing battle. Don't think for a second it is.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -6/+42If you don't believe in the movement towards paul, that's your own fault. He can and will win with the right support. It's not some miracle. It's getting people to open their eyes. Tell your friends, tell your parents, tell everyone about it. Stranger underdog stories have happened.
- BlackJackJester, on 11/24/2007, -3/+33I wish the GOP realized that.
- fezzler, on 11/24/2007, -2/+29I forgot what having hope felt like, thanks.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 11/24/2007, -4/+28I will be searching for them for sure next election.
- elleanee, on 11/24/2007, -2/+25They are not contradictory at all. In fact, they complement one another. Decentralization of authority gives the authority back to the people via the state they live in. There they can enact legislation (if they must) as to whether abortion is legal or illegal in that state. Dr. Paul is not, in any way, pushing his own views of pro-life on anyone else. He wants the people of each state to decide via their own legislators. He doesn't want the government telling people what they can and can't do. I hope that helps your confusion.
- RofLmaonnaise, on 11/24/2007, -1/+22You have to realize that if people don't stop "settling" their vote and don't stop voting between the lesser of two evils, there will never be change.
BUT, if people continuously vote solely on principle, not on whether the polls tells us they will win, then we'll actually get someone of principle for once.
Vote on principle and get everyone you know to do the same. You are what you eat; you get what you vote for. - Chibioz, on 11/24/2007, -3/+22Word is spreading. The conversion rate when people hear Dr. Paul's message is pretty high. Just because they haven't heard his name YET doesn't mean we'll give up hope, we'lll keep spreading the word until everyone knows who Ron Paul is.
- Fieri, on 11/24/2007, -2/+20He has no major health problems and bikes for hours each day. He's in better shape than most 55 year olds.
- CheezIt9109, on 11/24/2007, -3/+201.) He is not corrupt (objective test for all his decisions based on constitution)
2.) Because of (1) he wants us out of Iraq.
3.) Dennis is the only other person who seems like they wouldn't ***** America over even more. - Fieri, on 11/24/2007, -2/+19Anyone who believes that Ron Paul can't win because they've seen a Frank Luntz poll needs to open their eyes and stop eating his *****.
- stephbangm, on 11/24/2007, -4/+20It'll make more sense we Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination! But we have to become delegates or Ron Paul will NOT be President: http://delegate.notlong.com < Approved by the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee: Jeff Greenspan, Regional Coordinator
- justinx0r, on 11/24/2007, -3/+19He's against the federal government funding stem cell research, against the federal government deciding the issue of abortion, against the federal government funding any adoptions gay or straight, supports gay marriage, against the federal government running our education, supports the freedom of people to pray in school if they wish, against the federal government spending money to research alternative fuels, against illegal immigrants sucking all the money out of our already doomed welfare system, is for zero income tax for everyone, against the government regulating the internet, and supports the freedom to donate money to politicians. There, fixed it for you.
- Dokument, on 11/24/2007, -2/+18You should have told them to google him. Most people use the media to find out about candidates and unfortunately that isn't even close to their true personality. Also if the media doesn't like a candidate, they either make them look bad or don't even talk about them.
- Fieri, on 11/24/2007, -4/+19Where do you live? Because most people I talk to lately HAVE heard of Ron Paul. I'm in Northern California, home of hippies. But nonetheless.
- RofLmaonnaise, on 11/24/2007, -2/+17both parties are big spenders, whether it's warfare or welfare, and they're not going to stop. We have no small-government choice. We have no one really wanting to protect the Constitution and civil liberties.
We have no top candidates that are truly honest, don't pander to the people, don't take corporate money or lobbyist money.
Paul embodies a change from the status quo of politics. The sooner that gets gotten, the sooner one will realize why we're so passionate.
(To vote for an actual straight-forward, honest politician? I'm not going to pass up on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity) - BlackJackJester, on 11/24/2007, -3/+17"a waste of a vote" Thats a very socialist viewpoint. The entire reason for giving you a vote is to vote for who YOU want in office, ignoring what everyone else is doing. You are one in 300 million, your vote won't matter either way, so don't vote. I'm going to do my duty and vote for the man i want in office, whether he makes it on the ballot or not
- RofLmaonnaise, on 11/24/2007, -1/+15i support him because he's a healthy ***** doctor.
He tries to ride his bike or walk every day. That's better than most of America.
And he has the power to diagnose himself.
The only thing you have to worry about is an assassination, but those don't happen to our good leaders... - knightboat, on 11/24/2007, -2/+15"Our nation can't take another 4-8 years of neo-con fascist power."
You're acting as if this doesn't describe Hillary. - kwansolo, on 11/25/2007, -4/+16i wish everyone in the country would read this article. i also wish everyone in the country could understand this article.
- Chakat, on 11/24/2007, -1/+12Yes. The average person survives into their late 70s these days at the very least.
- Drax0n, on 11/24/2007, -7/+18Ron Paul is for allowing the states to decide abortion laws, his personal views would not be forced on individual states. He is also for real sex education to reduce the demand for abortions.
One of your own links explains why he wants to put America on the gold standard, the federal reserve has over stepped its bounds, look at the value of the dollar.
Building a fence along US boarders sounds a lot better than building fences in other countries.
I admit I personally disagree with his stance on gay marriage.
He doesn't just want to repel the esatate tax he wants to repel the entire IRS, and he wants to do that by bringing troops home.
Considering the UN was the first step towards global government saying the person who joined the UN was in tune with global governance in theory is a very honest opinion, whether it is popular or not. - steve693, on 11/24/2007, -3/+14Ron Paul has ignited the flames of liberty if the hearts of the American people. Even if he loses the election, the movement and the message will continue forever.
- terminal157, on 11/24/2007, -2/+13It's not a horse race. You pick the candidate you believe in and you back him. Even if Paul loses, this movement is going to continue to grow, and that's what's most important in the long wrong. You can be a part of the development of that movement, or you can continue "settling". Just be aware that the latter choice isn't going to make the system somehow someday, by luck or magic, stop "sucking".
- byrdgang, on 11/25/2007, -0/+11A Hillary Clinton supporter? I'll have to digg you down. She is absolutely nothing like Ron Paul. She is a fraud in every sense of the word; no wonder she has hundreds of people working for her, shaping every aspect of her campaign, feeding her one-liners, and sound-bites.
- lensman00, on 11/24/2007, -2/+13It's easy to see how a presidential candidate can win with a libertarian platform, given a base level of charisma and formal consistency. The election system is presently set up as a series of state victories. The successful libertarian candidate (who could be formally affiliated either Republican or Democrat) will go into each state and cast the battle as one of that particular state vs the federal government. State's rights are the lever that can effectively pry enough citizens, communities and states away from what remains of their major party platform loyalty to win the general election.
The major parties are locked into a regional/demographic strategy that was revolutionary in the 1990s, but will sink into the mire in the next decade or so. And they are not structurally or philosophically equipped to make the transition to the strong state model. Grab the ring, people! But take care not to lose your principles when you are flush with victory. - mozzep, on 11/25/2007, -0/+10From the Article...
"Ron Paul may lose next year's battle -- though not without a memorable fight -- but the laissez-faire agitators he has helped energize will find themselves at the leading edge of American politics and culture for years to come." - inactive, on 11/24/2007, -2/+12Congressman Paul demonstrates the type of foreign policy I want represented by the United States of America, I don't have to agree with all of his political positions, since one of his positions is "if we don't agree, we can work it out". Rather than, I'm going to bomb the rubble I just bombed, over and over until I run out of bombs, then make more.
- anarcurt, on 11/24/2007, -4/+13This is the first real honest assessment of why we so support Ron Paul. He is by no means a perfect candidate but for young freedom loving libertarians like myself he is the best chance we've had in a long time to change directions and head to a future we can be proud of.
- PrestonM, on 11/25/2007, -1/+10This article mentions Frank Luntz. More people need to know what this guy is all about. He consults the structure for political polls that all of the major media outlets buy into whole heartedly. These "so called" integrity polls operate by manipulating semantics. See for yourself, Penn & Teller did a piece about him on their show *****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4 - trentasaurus, on 11/24/2007, -2/+11He wants the estate tax REPEALED?? That's one of my favorite taxes!!! You're telling me this bastard doesn't want people to pay taxes on their wealth at death after a lifetime of paying taxes on that income? I guess I'm voting Hillary.
- afruff23, on 11/24/2007, -2/+11I wish he wouldn't call Kucinich a kook though. I find the UFO thing a little strange and I dislike UHC, but that kind of name-calling is the kind we don't want for Ron Paul. Many people nowadays think UHC is the answer. Unless you explain yourself as to what makes UHC worse than a free market, don't use that as your support.
- SideShowMel0329, on 11/24/2007, -9/+18Ron Paul is backed by the Internet, which in my opinion is the most powerful force in today's world.
- xtc46, on 11/25/2007, -1/+10The problem with Obama is he may be just enough to get people to quiet down. Someone like Hillary drives a revolution (against her)
- smacksaw, on 11/24/2007, -1/+10Most RP supporters I've come in contact with are:
*College students with just enough Economics courses to be dangerous (and annoying during a debate)
*Not civil libertarians
*Believe that capitalism at all costs somehow is libertarianism
For every RP supporter I find that is knowledgeable, he must work overtime to undo the damage of the 10 new supporters who are greedy Republicans or just anarchists. People I don't like to be associated with, but as a libertarian and RP supporter I often find myself chastising or apoligising for.
The good thing is that he isn't running on their platform, so they will get him elected and cooler heads will prevail. - Retsam06, on 11/24/2007, -7/+16You must have spent a lot of time pulling up all those links.
And yet, you still fail. - terminal157, on 11/24/2007, -2/+11Being anti-abortion in a personal sense and being anti-abortion in a public, governmental regulation sense are two very different things, and therein lies the key to understand why it's not a contradiction. The man has his ideals, and he also has his feelings. His feelings on abortion are that it's wrong, but his feelings take a back seat to his ideals (that's part of the whole integrity thing everyone keeps talking about). If he wanted federal laws against abortion, that would be a contradiction; while wanting no federal laws on the subject, which is his position, is perfectly in line with his ideals.
As for uninformed supporters, I've noticed some, but they seem to be a small minority. Just because someone says PAUL `08!!! without having an intellectual conversation about their beliefs first doesn't mean they must be uninformed. Also, I've noticed far more uninformed Paul detractors than supporters. There are uninformed people everywhere, and a lot of people on digg are too young and stupid (this is the internet, after all) to realize how important this election is and how important it is to educate oneself before forming a strong opinion. - lovestospooge, on 11/24/2007, -2/+10copypasta
- CaptainCool53, on 11/25/2007, -2/+10Kucinich saw a UFO! hahahaha!
***** you. So did Presidents Carter and Reagan. Try reporting on relevant facts, WaPo. - fezzler, on 11/24/2007, -1/+9Well said. I have always had a big problem with this blind loyalty to candidates. I have never in my life found another person I agree with on every single issue, so why on Earth should I expect to find a Presidential Candidate that does?
- SouthsideIrish, on 11/24/2007, -8/+16Ron Paul is no longer just a person. Ron Paul is an idea that will not die when he fails to win the nomination. Ron Paul is an idea, and a movement to bring freedom back to this country.
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