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- EricSchC1, on 05/27/2008, -19/+138"Politics took a new meaning when I considered the long-term effects that political choices might bear for my daughter."
I think its appalling how we hear the kind of blatant disregard for future generations from the right of the isle (and the anti-intellectual crowd...coincidence?) all the time. I commend the author for considering the state of our species for its future generations, not the typical destructive preoccupations with present ("we want what we want and we want it right now!") or the past("lets return to a time when things were 'simple' and 'wholesome'"). - Hillsfar, on 05/27/2008, -10/+109Have you checked out Obama's government transparency and ethics reform proposals? This will affect the future of American government for the better - regardless of which party will be in power later. "Among the proposals in Obama's plan to open government are: putting government data online in accessible formats; airing live webcasts of agency meetings; restoring scientific integrity; allowing people to track federal grants, contracts, earmarks and lobbyist contacts online; and allowing five days for public to review and comment on legislation online before its signed."
- EnviroChem, on 05/22/2009, -17/+78This article is well thought out and really worth reading.
- kaseypapa, on 05/27/2008, -15/+58To me, the article is totally on target. The conservatives' actions have totally led me away from the republican party, and I don't want 4-8 years more of the same.
IMO, Obama is the "hope" this nation is looking for, so my grandchildren can have a life they deserve, and we can get back on track and be able to afford to live off the money we make, instead of the conservative government prostituting our paychecks. - BrownMoses, on 05/27/2008, -3/+43I honestly wonder what Repulican supporters actually believe regarding issues relating to economic conservatism, because it seems to me spending $600 Billion on a war and creating one of the largest growths in the deficite since the 50's isn't that economcially conservative. Maybe it's Neo-economic conservatism, as it seems to have served the Bush administration in much the same way as Neo-conservatism has. Badly.
- rmxz, on 05/27/2008, -4/+42After the neocons took over the party, I'm actually surprised how many old Republicans still stick by the neo-Republican party.
- Pherdnut, on 05/27/2008, -11/+38Probably fake, but right on, IMO. Yeah, Hills, transparency is one of my biggest gripes. "If you've got nothing to hide" logic ought to apply to the government, not the people.
- mnemy, on 05/27/2008, -4/+30Anyone else notice that during both Bush's (Sr and Jr) reign, the National debt blew up? And inbetween during the Clinton years, it slowed down? ***** the Bushes.
- wootup, on 05/27/2008, -4/+30Do people honestly think that Bush's massive deficits are an accident? The borrowed money needs to be repayed with interest to the major banking cartels of the Federal Reserve (who, coincidentally, financed Bush's campaigns), plus it means that the US Government will be burdened with severe debt for decades to come, in which time future governments will need to pay off that debt instead of funding social programs, which helps compel future administrations to play along with the Republicans' deregulation/privatization schemes.
- inactive, on 05/27/2008, -3/+26Reminds me of another topic
"How Bush turned 4000 soldiers into dead soldiers" - ClosedCaption, on 05/27/2008, -9/+30I love it when Bush and Co are given a pass as being irresponsible and incompetent. Anytime someone gladly wears the incompetent label you gotta wonder if its really that simple. There's money being made folks, lots and lots of it.
- CannedMango, on 05/27/2008, -10/+30It will until the next Republican government has a "crisis situation" that requires all transparency to be removed for "the good of the country"...
- scaaven2, on 05/27/2008, -1/+19It's frustrating when people just don't understand, or want to understand, the problems this nation faces. At least there are those willing to put differences aside to take an objective look. Thanks.
- stretch611, on 05/27/2008, -3/+18Why do you think it is fake? I have similar thoughts except mine started earlier and I have no children.
I voted for George Bush twice (the father in 88 and 92) and I have not voted for a republican president since then. I did support McCain in 2000, but when Bush (W) was nominated, I knew that the party ideals were not the same as mine.
The McCain now is different from McCain in 2000. He used to believe in the same funding/lobbyist reforms that Obama is pushing. But this year he has cozied up to far right.
I will be voting for Obama in November and I no longer consider myself a republican, but an independent. (The dems are too far to the other side for me and the libertarians are too anarchistic.) - lazyfisherman, on 05/27/2008, -4/+19The conservative party... the party of restraint, individualism and conservative spending was pretty much hijacked and raped by the NEOCONS... who were neither Republican nor conservative.
- WiseWeasel, on 05/27/2008, -14/+28I'm glad to see neo-conservatism being purged from politics, and the GOP is entirely deserving of this criticism. The author seems like he'd be a prime demographic for support of more libertarian principles, in the vein of Ron Paul, but at this point in the primaries, it does seem like Obama might possibly be the least destructive option of the main party candidates, and so I'm not all that surprised by his selection. I do think it's important to try to prod the Republican Party in that direction in the future, if they want to have any support whatsoever, or start working on a new political party to replace it, since the Democratic Party has not shown itself to be particularly fiscally responsible, nor averse to infringing on civil liberties when it's politically advantageous.
- McDiesel, on 05/27/2008, -2/+15dugg for the opening apology.
- bicyclethief, on 05/27/2008, -1/+14Obama meant his great uncle. And it was another concentration camp, not Auschwitz:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/27/recollecti ... - OriginalReplica, on 05/28/2008, -0/+11There was a time when "conservative" actually meant someone who wanted to conserve resources, both natural and finical. Looking at the government spending compared to the GNP chart in the article, it would appear that Bill Clinton was more conservative than Bush Jr. or Bush Sr.
- jj2me, on 05/27/2008, -1/+12Other than the simplistic title of the article, which you are reacting to, he did say the "Bush Administration and the Republican Congress," and this is what the article talked about, as well as showing the national debt graph since 1940.
Assuming the author looked at the graph he included, he would know that Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II contributed 70% of the national debt since the beginning of the U.S. The fact that all the modern Repubs love the Reagan policies is scary for any fiscal conservative. (It's a bit unfair to Bush I to not mention that he was more fiscally responsible than it appears, since a portion of the debt he accumulated was due to getting stuck with the Savings and Loan crisis that came out of Reagan's policies.)
Social Security can be easily fixed, compared to Medicare obligations (thanks, Repubs, for that sickeningly wasteful Medicare Part D giveaway to the drug companies, which no one else was asking for.) Bush II ideology is to dismantle Medicare.
The modern "Reagan" Repubs have been fiscally insane. They sold out our country, for temporary gain. And they dare to talk about patriotism. - scaaven2, on 05/27/2008, -0/+10Congratulations on looking up the web host. That MUST be him.
- EtherGnat, on 05/27/2008, -1/+11"My cat wants to invade Iran."
Must be a Persian. - MaynardJK, on 05/27/2008, -5/+14Hold on now. Actual conservatives like myself hate Bush and the current administration just as much as you do. There is nothing conservative about the neocon agenda.
- bcclist, on 06/11/2008, -13/+22Great post. Welcome to the other side. While few, my republican relatives - how do republican supports still exist? - use the generic GOP line that says everyone is born a democrat but eventually becomes a republican. Regardless, I'm looking forward to forwarding this.
- blitz718, on 05/27/2008, -3/+12When Clinton and the democrats was in office he lead the nation to a balanced budget, generally speaking that is being fiscially responsible.
- oderdigg, on 05/27/2008, -3/+12I guess Obama will get your vote then.
- Dweller99, on 05/27/2008, -2/+10Where were the "actual conservatives" in 2004? Holding your noses and voting for Bush I suppose?
I am seeing a whole lot of distancing now that his run is over and finger pointing at the "Neo-cons" as causing the last 8 years worth of crap, but we have been bitching about them for 8 years and the "actual conservatives" just kept voting them in. - mal1964, on 05/27/2008, -2/+10"You’re gonna need a bigger vote."
- Homerr, on 05/27/2008, -7/+15Democrat: us
Republican: me - WiseWeasel, on 05/27/2008, -5/+13My cat wants to invade Iran. That's a bad kitty!
- masterm1nd, on 05/27/2008, -4/+11Keep voting for a party, pawn
- halogenik, on 05/27/2008, -1/+8Yes I agree, this article was great. I thought the guy that wrote it had a lot of courage just to go back and really re-evaluate to get a clear understanding of what it is he's actually voting for. A lot of us don't do that. Hell, most of us don't know where our favorite candidates stand on basic, fundamental issues that will affect us for the next 4 to 8 years..
Hopefully people won't ADD from reading this because they think it's too long.
"Zomg, not graphs and charts!!!!!1111" - netdance, on 05/27/2008, -0/+7Wars still need to be paid for. FDR paid for his war, why can't your guy?
- santeria49, on 05/27/2008, -7/+14People said the same thing about Clinton, and to some extent he did expand the government, but, he also realized the importance of balancing the budget along the way. At the end of his term we had our first budget surplus in many years.
The problem with the Bush administration and current group of Republicans in Congress is that they either have no desire to balance the budget or no grasp of how to balance the budget. - meantime, on 05/27/2008, -3/+10the pic says it all....Dubya is full of hot air
- EtherGnat, on 05/27/2008, -2/+9"you understand that was due mostly to a Republican-controlled Congress, right?"
The same Republican controlled Congress that racked up record setting debt during the Bush administration? - oderdigg, on 05/27/2008, -1/+7I noticed that before reading an article 6-7 years after the fact. Welcome to reality.
- Linz1984, on 05/27/2008, -1/+7Wow....all I have to say is wow. You obviously don't know the first thing about computers and web hosts. The author just continues to prove his point even more about conservatives and their common sense and lack of intelligence. Good job. I applaud you for that one!
- RandoTheKing, on 05/27/2008, -0/+6There is no 'balancing' of such a large budget. It's just impossible unless you cut back and limit the government. Useless wars sure don't help either
- pintomp3, on 05/27/2008, -0/+6it blew under the great conservative icon, reagan, too.
http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.g ... - TrojanGuy, on 05/27/2008, -0/+6I was a loyal Republican all my life up through 2004, at which point I could no longer support the party in good conscience.
- lamiaconfitor, on 05/27/2008, -1/+7Democrats historically run a much more transparent White House anyway. But that is because they are weaklings! Real government tells you what they want you to hear! /sarcasm.
- Xanrez, on 05/27/2008, -0/+6Very good read. It is good to see some conservatives waking up to the fact that the Republican party that exists today is NOT the party they think it is. Political conservatism is supposed to be about limiting the size and scope of the government and maintaining fiscal discipline. (That's why Republicans are traditionally supposed to be against Welfare and other government "hand outs") What part of this administration is conservative? Republican voters have been hoodwinked!
For the record, I'm not a Repub. I'm a Libertarian leaning independent. Free the people! Down with The Man!
In fact, *climbs on a new soapbox*... Down with the two party system! Everyone should be an Independent and then vote for the person that most closely reflects their own beliefs. The republican/democrat division is tearing this country apart. - acroyear2, on 05/27/2008, -0/+6You are so, so, so, boring. Is this going to be the republican talking point for the next 10 years, "Dems will raise taxes! Run!" Seriously? Can't you have an intelligent discussion on the issues? Can you cite any examples where Obama points out raising taxes for anyone other than the rich? Can you explain to me how Bush's tax cuts during these insane expenses during wartime have done us any good?
No, you can't. - blitz718, on 05/27/2008, -1/+7Very basic macroeconomics, but pretty much what ive been saying all along.
- EtherGnat, on 05/27/2008, -1/+7"McCain is nothing more but George Bush in sheep clothing."
Which McCain? 2000 McCain? 2008 McCain?
The biggest problem with McCain is that you have absolutely no idea what you'll get once he's elected and doesn't have to kiss anybody's ass anymore. - oderdigg, on 05/27/2008, -5/+10You obviously don't get it.
- masterm1nd, on 05/27/2008, -1/+6You're assuming you're not lying, liar.
That just wouldn't make sense unless you can't vote for legal reasons. - FTWmovin2canada, on 05/27/2008, -4/+9Have you seen how much this war is costing us?
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