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- diggduggj, on 01/31/2008, -4/+155This bill seems dangerous and unnecessary. Dugg.
- medalian1, on 01/31/2008, -9/+127It doesn't scare sheeple, they just want their TV + fast food.
- theNazz, on 01/31/2008, -2/+109Dissent is an American value.. I hope Americans remember that when this elitist ***** comes to a boil.
- darthchaosrspw, on 01/31/2008, -1/+102Patriot Act : unconstitutional
REAL ID Act : unconstitutional
Military Commissions Act : unconstitutional
John Warner Defense Authorization Act : unconstitutional
Homegrown Terrorism Act : unconstitutional
Bush's executive order that makes him dictator : unconstitutional
Bush's 2000 election : unconstitutional
"Don't throw the Constitution in my face! It's just a goddamn piece of paper!" - George W. Bush - moletimer, on 01/31/2008, -3/+90Not another constitution-destroying act. The PATRIOT act is bad enough.
- nitsnipe, on 01/31/2008, -3/+82Man, this country is becoming more fascist as we speak...
- chase001, on 01/31/2008, -5/+77 In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up. - Rotzooi, on 01/31/2008, -11/+80Hey, I'm not a terrorist, I have nothing to hide, so keep those Bills coming or I won't feel safe!
/s - kkss, on 01/31/2008, -3/+66Sadly we can't blame Bush for this! It was sponsored in the House by a Democrat. Call and write your Senators!
- chase001, on 01/31/2008, -4/+64Most bills passed since 9/11 have been dangerous and unnecessary. Reactionary legislation is scary particularly when most of the country is still in a state of mass hysteria.
- GeorgeWKush, on 01/31/2008, -1/+59Just like when the Patriot Act destroyed the meaning of the word "Patriot," this will destroy the meaning of the word "Terrorist."
- doublehead, on 01/31/2008, -4/+53Bush and his minions should sit down and shut up before they cause any more damage to our liberties. A very good time to start acting like the lame duck he is. He could go on vacation and come back in December :)
- sherrife, on 01/31/2008, -4/+45It's not merely dangerous and unnecessary. It's a ***** _conscious_ decision made by those in power that allows them to squash dissent.
- Napoleone, on 01/31/2008, -4/+41P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act roll call:
Ron Paul - Nay
Barack Obama - Aye (reauthorization)
Real ID roll call:
Ron Paul - Nay
Barack Obama - Aye
Homegrown Terrorism Bill roll call:
Ron Paul - missed vote because of campaign, but later that week went to House floor and strongly condemned it
Barack Obama - bill hasn't been voted on in the Senate yet (we'll have to wait and see) - sm0ky, on 01/31/2008, -5/+36Right on...And their taking all of us down with them.
- CPoe, on 01/31/2008, -1/+29So we need a hardcore overthrowing of these treasonous bastards. Voting just isn't gonna cut it this time.
- bigsquirrely, on 01/31/2008, -1/+28Wait doesnt this bill basically make the whole Bush Admin terrorist?
- Zarokima, on 01/31/2008, -2/+27They're also taking down our grammar.
- h4ckler, on 01/31/2008, -1/+26..and they were singing...
bye, bye... - JonForTheWin, on 01/31/2008, -0/+24The government is the terrorist.
- DIS100, on 01/31/2008, -0/+22It is so horrifying that our most powerful and trusted leaders can so quickly forget the past. Not long ago we, as a nation, were in this same predicament.
1940 The Smith Act: It became illegal to knowingly or willfully promote the overthrow of our government by force or violence.
Therefore, the act of thinking of overthrowing the government became illegal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act
1947 House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC or HCUA): Congressional hearings begin based on the Smith Act calling to Washington members of the motion picture industry.
Those called had few options.
1 Become an informer and “name names” of other communists.
2 Plead the 1st Amendment and be held in contempt of congress warranting (as the “Hollywood 10” did) a trip to prison for a few years.
3 Plead the 5th Amendment and be blacklisted by Hollywood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huac
1950 Internal Security Act: Members of these groups (Communists) could not become citizens. Citizen-members could be denaturalized in five years.
One with communist THOUGHTS could be stripped of his/her citizenship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran_Internal_Sec
Many other atrocities upon the constitution were committed in this time, which I will name quickly without reference since this is such a long comment:
The Subversive Activities Control Board forced communist organizations to register on a list
Control of the mail and radio to communists
Legalized detainment of communists without bail
Deportations of communists and suspected communists
George Bush has a connection to this era distant though it may be. George W. Bush’s Father, George H. W. Bush was Ronald Reagan’s Vice President and Reagan was one of the friendliest witnesses the at HCUA interviewed. Reagan of course being a Hollywood Actor at the time and president of the Screen Actor’s Guild. - godofpumpkins, on 01/31/2008, -1/+23he was supporting the point... way to completely miss the support ;)
- Linua, on 01/31/2008, -2/+24This isn't a democracy anymore, we do not have control of our government or media.
- PhilLesh69, on 01/31/2008, -1/+22That wasn't the exact quote. Martin Neimoller said:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. - GeorgeWKush, on 01/31/2008, -2/+22You better watch yourself. The Pro Obama diggers are going to spam you as a "Ron Paul Spammer."
- GeorgeWKush, on 01/31/2008, -0/+19I say Americans became retarded after WW2. Winning the war gave citizens too much trust in our government. Why else would we get involved in Vietnam after the mistakes of Korea? Too much trust.
- THEROC, on 01/31/2008, -0/+19Wrong. Paul voted against it.
- DiggDuggDugged, on 01/31/2008, -4/+23As I remember, 9/11 happened during a Republican administration but maybe I sniffed glue and missed that day. But for a partisan ***** like you, who suggests that opposition to this abortion of law is fueled by petty political pissing, I guess that's how it looks. If that's really the extent of your logic please go back to sitting slack-jawed in front of Fox News rather than trolling here.
- PhilLesh69, on 01/31/2008, -1/+1975 years later, we learn that Marinus van der Lubbe, the supposed communist arson who created the rieichstag fire wasn't actually guilty.
One could wonder how often governments make these claims in order to further a goal.
We used many "attacks" to justify attacking someone else. Gulf of Tonkin. Pearl Harbor. The USS Maine. The attempted use of the USS Liberty.
When the war profiteers need war, they will convince us that we need a war. - kkss, on 01/31/2008, -0/+18Yes -- have read the bill. And if you read the story, you'll see that many reasonable, well-informed people have read the bill and are uneasy.
- chase001, on 01/31/2008, -0/+16But they are electing the whackos who are.
- chase001, on 01/31/2008, -4/+20It's all a game. The GOP regresses our liberties when they are in power and then when the establishment Dems are in power they stick with the status quo so the Right never really losses ground anymore. They just bide their time till they are in power again and can chip away at the Constitution some more.
- inactive, on 01/31/2008, -0/+15Our government knows whats best for us right???.....
Just sit back and enjoy the ride down.........down .........down ..........down - nicholai, on 01/31/2008, -1/+16The entire "war on drugs", "war on terror", "war in Iraq" and all torture is unconstitutional. Water boarding is torture, making it very unconstitutional.
- nicholai, on 01/31/2008, -2/+16Will you still be defending these bills when you show up on a terrorist watch list? What if one of your family members is sent to a secret prison to be water boarded?
- dsanonline, on 01/31/2008, -0/+13Don't believe the Church and State and everything they tell you.
In my opinion, our current Government is illegal and illegitimate. Our President is a traitor and both the Congress and Senate have betrayed the American people at every turn. Our freedoms, our rights, they're being stripped away a little bit at a time. You and I both know that eventually this will hit a boiling point. A civil war is on the horizon and I dare say it'll be a bloody one for both sides.
The only question which remains... which side will you be on? - ampersand2001, on 01/31/2008, -1/+14When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. - Zarokima, on 01/31/2008, -4/+16I'm pretty sure that if he knows that quote, chase is astute enough to know that Rotzooi was being sarcastic, especially with the /s. It's a pertinent quote to the situation, and a perfect reply to Rotzooi's statement, sarcastic or not.
- nicholai, on 01/31/2008, -0/+12Thats what the "war on terror" is all about. Our government is using terrorism to fight terrorism. The concept is so retarded, it ranks with the "war on drugs".
- OwdenBowden, on 01/31/2008, -0/+11I find it rather un amusing that all these bills fall under the Patriot Act which is 100% un Patriotic.
And if you go back to the times of the revolutionary war - EVERYTHING we did to start this country would have been considered acts of Terrorism.
Furthermore, EVERYTHING we found ourselves at odds with / the main reasons we started the Revolutionary War are the EXACT things that are taking place in our country today by or government.
Me does think that our Founding Fathers are Spinning in their graves.
I say: "GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH" - sigg14, on 01/31/2008, -0/+11patriotism = terrorism ?
- Richandler, on 01/31/2008, -0/+11Government intervention = Bad. Whether it's overseas in other countries or right here at home this is just more proof that the government should stay out of our lives.
- Azerael, on 01/31/2008, -1/+12Every government is doomed to corruption and decay. Revolution is always going to be necessary so that society can move forward and apply the lessons they learned during the tenure of the previous society to something new.
- nicholai, on 01/31/2008, -1/+12You are right about Clinton but wrong about Bush so I buried you.
- BillDoE, on 01/31/2008, -0/+11Am I a terrorist if I have some Homegrown?
- kkss, on 01/31/2008, -0/+11Please read the commentary and the fact sheets -- I don't need to regurgitate all of the well-informed unease around the bill here.
- SillyDigger, on 01/31/2008, -3/+13except 'most of the country' isn't voting for these bills and putting them into law
- EricMiIIer, 5 hr 6 min ago, -0/+10Im not even sure about that any more.
- 22magnum, on 01/31/2008, -2/+12yea Terrorist has such a sound definition, someone fighting for there country but not part of an organized government. Wait.. then whats a rebel?.. o yea we supply rebels with munitions...
- PhilLesh69, on 01/31/2008, -0/+10The people who willingly allow unamerican laws and legislation need to be rounded up and executed. Yeah, I'm going to be just as extreme as those idiots.
We need to protect our republic from the morons who get scared from any threat, and we need to make sure they cannot undermine our democracy just because they are afraid.
Giuliani is out of the race. It is proven that the 9/11 fear mongering is only a fringe movement of weak minded people. The stronger of us are not absolutely scared of those crazy muslims.
Then again, most of us are not afraid of the brown people mowing our lawns and washing our dishes.
If you thought Bush was a majority, and then thought that Rudy was an extension of that majority, then you need to wake up and stop being so afraid.
Bush has a 28% approval rating, and Rudy has maybe a 15% approval rating.
Stop being so scared abd blind. -
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