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- jmk4422, on 02/03/2008, -13/+170Obama would be a disaster for the Republicans. Imagine him on stage with McCain during a debate. On the left a tall, handsome, charismatic young man. On the right an old, hunched over, balding white dude. That is the choice Americans would face: young and hopeful vs. old and cranky. Obama would win in margins not seen since the days of Reagan.
- vishcool1, on 02/03/2008, -12/+164If Hillary gets the nomination, she is going to have a VERY hard time beating McCain. And if McCain gets into the White House, we are not leaving Iraq any time soon. Think about it! Obama is the dem's best chance by far. I know so many republicans and independants who support him.
Vote Obama... unless you want to stay in Iraq for the rest of the century. - limezor2, on 02/03/2008, -13/+128Everyone who I've talked to who supports Hilary Clinton doesn't even follow politics they just see her and think she's "strong".
Everyone who pays attention to anything supports Obama. - inactive, on 02/03/2008, -9/+97I'm not going to lie, if it is Clinton v. McCain, I'll be planning a 4 year round trip to somewhere else come January.
- simplistics06, on 02/03/2008, -11/+78Mccain vs Hilary LOL you're all going to wish Bush was back.
- Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -9/+75One of the best lines in the article is this: "As GOP pundits are now openly admitting, they want Hillary this November. They fear Obama."
I am becoming more and more convinced that if Hillary is on the ticket, even if only as VP, McCain will be our next president. That would be a disaster for our country. McCain is a soft clone of Bush. Another four years like the past seven would be a nightmare. - inactive, on 02/03/2008, -5/+68Dems, please get this ... nominating Hillary will guarantee a Republican victory in November. I am a conservative, but would vote for Obama in a second, while I would never vote for Hillary and would be sure to vote against her. There are a *lot* like me out there.
- miniml, on 02/03/2008, -6/+51If Hillary really cared about our country, she would step down and endorse Obama.
- steelersfan7roe, on 02/03/2008, -4/+47Do dems really want to lose in november? If so, go ahead and vote for her, and while you're at it, shoot yourself in the foot.
- jamesalfaro, on 02/03/2008, -4/+45"...a slow-motion disaster unfolding before you, and you can only yell out and hope those around you notice in time." That is exactly what is happening on the Dem side right now. There are a lot of people that are blinded by Clinton's so-called inevitability. Planting seeds of doubt or inevitability are a political strategist’s best friend. That's one way to rig an election and ensure that one candidate is favored over another.
http://whitehouser.com/elections/rhetoric-and-prop ...
Clinton herself has misled people by constantly repeating the lie of "35 years of experience". Thirty-five years takes you back to 1973, half of which Hillary spent in law school. During her husband's two terms in office, Hillary Clinton did not hold a security clearance, did not attend meetings of the National Security Council, and was not given a copy of the president's daily intelligence briefing. During trips to Bosnia and Kosovo, she "acted as a spokeswoman for American interests rather than as a negotiator." On military affairs, most of her experience derives not from her White House years but from serving on the Senate armed services committee.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26cl ...
http://www.slate.com/id/2182073/pagenum/all/ - wazzamattawichu, on 02/03/2008, -17/+52Guys, I'm* gonna** vote*** for**** Hillary!*****
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*****hell - fuzzmeister, on 02/03/2008, -5/+37Leaving "Crisis" out of the title made it sound like Hillary is suddenly becoming electable.
- GeorgeWKush, on 02/03/2008, -5/+35Hillary could sell her soul to Satan and still not get elected.
- selfobsessed, on 02/03/2008, -3/+29Let's not forget about some of the comments Bill has been letting out lately as well.
I'm thinking Edwards will probably endorse Obama on Monday and hopefully that will provide enough traction to get Obama on the democratic ticket. - Totalchaos02, on 02/03/2008, -4/+27It could be Hitler vs Stalin and I still wouldn't want Bush back.
- WeirdEdsel, on 02/03/2008, -3/+25All Hillary cares about is getting back into the white house. She doesn't care about the country, she doesn't care about you, she doesn't care about the economy. She will say anything to get that little thrill of being in control one more time.
- 1337Einstein, on 02/03/2008, -5/+26What are you talking about? That ticket would be weaker than either of them with Edwards as vp.
- fuzzmeister, on 02/03/2008, -5/+25I don't believe Hillary is very electable, but neither is McCain. McCain is hated by a large part of the Republican party (the hardcore conservatives), just as Hillary is disliked by many Democrats. It'd really be a lose-lose situation for many voters.
- endrid, on 02/03/2008, -3/+23If Hillary gets in office, we won't be getting out of Iraq any time soon anyway. I don't really see any difference between the two anyway... once again America doesn't get a real chance. If it were Obama VS. anyone except Ron Paul, I'd vote for him.
- frontporsche, on 02/03/2008, -7/+27I disagree. I like Obama, but him being VP wouldn't help my distrust of Hillary at all.
- swrostmore, on 02/03/2008, -5/+21McCain is going to look like a corpse no matter who is on the stage next to him. Likewise, he's going to be a disaster for not only Republicans but also for the rest of us if he gets elected.
- rory096, on 02/03/2008, -8/+23Guys, I'mI'd gonnarather voteburn forin Hillary!hell
What? - zacharytelschow, on 02/03/2008, -1/+16I don't know if I would vote for Obama in a second, but as someone who typically votes Republican I would consider voting for Obama because I respect his thoughtfulness and ability to demonstrate that he clearly sees both sides of the issues. Likewise, there is absolutely no chance I would vote for Hillary.
- DangerCollie, on 02/03/2008, -3/+17Nominating Hillary is the only way Dems can lose in 2008. Just like Kerry picked the only path to lose to the most politically unpopular president in the history of the nation. Democrats have a talent for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Hillary would solidify the Republicans and cement their opinion of Democrats. This is one of the few times in my lifetime that I remember an urgent desire for change from both sides. Even the Republicans are tired of the way things are. I can understand why they don't like Hillary...whether or not I agree with their reasoning, I understand it.
I don't think it's unreasonable to pick someone with a lower overall negative value. I can't really get behind Hillary and don't want to vote for McCain. - whataboutdave, on 02/03/2008, -1/+15Two minorities on one ticket is considered an unnecessary risk by the establishment types who staff both campaigns. I'd bet almost anything that those two won't wind up on a ticket together. Mark my word.
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -4/+17Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -5/+18...and this is why our country has problems.
- babar77, on 02/03/2008, -2/+15I would lose so much respect for Obama if he agreed to run with Hillary as VP. It usually falls on the VP to do all the dirty campaigning.
Based on that, if it had to come down to those choices - sigh - Obama/Clinton would be best because Hillary is better at shoveling sh-t. - Gerz1219, on 02/03/2008, -2/+14According to whitehouse.gov, there have been 0.000 female presidents for every male president in the United States.
- rprz, on 02/03/2008, -3/+15Fox is pushing hillary hard... this is probably why. I work on a military base, and fox is basically the only thing that's ever on a tv. She gets way more face time than any other dem candidate.
- iplayyouandme, on 02/03/2008, -3/+15Dead on. I was all for Billary or Obama but she's tarnishing her image with all of her dirty politics. Now I'm only for Obama. As President, image is everything. Real leadership is providing a vision of future while surrounding yourself with "doers" that can carry that vision out. After all, JFK didn't do anything to get us to the moon, rather he inspired us with the collective will to do it. Healthcare for every American will also require this popular will or it will die just like Billary's former fight. We don't need a fighter or a (evil)doer, rather we need a leader with the vision to bring us together to get things done.
I will never vote for her. - hamobu, on 02/03/2008, -8/+20If Hillary is nominated, I would vote for Nader, unless the election is close in my state, in which case I will vote for whom ever is on republican ticket. Hillary is a crook and a neocon. She talks with polls and votes with lobbyists. If you want to see war with Iran, vote for Hillary.
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -5/+17Ron Paul has no chance.
Please, read me the delegates that McCain has versus Paul.
You've known this, yet you based all your hopes on a stupid public that can't read past whatever is on the ***** TV. And you still think Paul will win?
Look, I'd like him to win as well, but it's not gonna happen. It can't. You can't go from having Bush, to Bush being RE-ELECTED, to doing a complete ***** 180 in just 8 years. I can't happen, and it won't happen. Not one single point in this country has had such a massive change in such a short amount of time.
There's a difference between being hopeful and being naive. - BCRazgriz, on 02/03/2008, -5/+16Obama will win because he is a good speech giver. Sure there are some people who like Obama for his specific stances but a majority of people that aren't involved in politics but still vote will vote for him because he's 'for change'. I was watching something on TV earlier where they asked people who they would vote for and they said "Obama" and when asked why they said "He's for change" but when asked what changes it was exactly that they liked they had no idea what any of his stances were. So if you like Obama for his stances, awesome, but he'll be elected because most people don't even know why they're voting for someone. That's why I believe you should have to take a test on the candidate you're gonna vote for and pass it before your vote is counted.
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -1/+12I agree. I'm a republican and there is nobody on the Rep side that I would currently vote for over Obama. If clinton gets the nomination, I'll be forced to vote for whoever the rep nominee is......
- sanman, on 02/03/2008, -0/+10Most far-right and religious conservatives are quickly coming around to support McCain, because they don't want another 1992 fiasco, where lack of support helped the opposition get in.
- whataboutdave, on 02/03/2008, -1/+11I never said it was fair. Campaign planners are a conservative bunch. They are in the business of winning elections - political correctness be damned.
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -0/+10Don't put too much stock into "GOP pundits are openly admitting" anything. First of all, we don't know which "GOP pundits" to whom the authors are referring, second, "GOP pundits" are not the gods of the Republican party, and finally, "pundits" are basically know-nothing blow-hards who are going to say whatever they think sounds most intelligent.
Voting based on who you think is "electable" may have the opposite affect. Vote for whomever you want to be president and electability will take care of itself. - dahuf, on 02/03/2008, -4/+14Better than the trend towards fascism we've got now. I'd take socialism over impending fascism any day.
- whataboutdave, on 02/03/2008, -5/+15I would be SHOCKED if campaign managers would take the risk of running a ticket with two minorities on it. Whoever takes the nomination will choose a safe white guy from a geographically balancing state as a running mate.
- Vandykjd, on 02/03/2008, -4/+14so let me get this right... one minority is ok but not two.... thats just crazy.
- courtjester555, on 02/03/2008, -3/+12The idea is that you replace one with the other...Yes I realize that's not exactly what *s are for.
- Twoje, on 02/03/2008, -0/+9I want Obama to win because I want Ann Coulter to either not vote or vote for somebody she doesn't want...
And because I want Obama to be president. - srneu71, on 02/03/2008, -4/+12As a moderate Republican, my voting strategy is as such:
Vote against Hillary
Vote against McCain
I like Obama as a speaker and he genuinely seems like a decent person, but if he gets in, my taxes go up and Universal Health care get pushed. While I'm not against Health care as a concept, I'm against raising taxes to pay for it. So if they can cut other pork projects to pay for it, I'm OK with that only after they start taking care of the crumbling infrastructure first. - Brook07, on 02/03/2008, -1/+9Great article! I just watched "Ralph Nader: An Unreasonable Man" on Netflix this morning. And now to hear that he might run for president gives me the alternative choice that I was looking for. I'm a 38 year old white man, I WILL vote for Obama on Feb. 5th, but if Clinton wins the nomination for the Democrats----I'm gone! I've heard Obama's rhetoric about the Democrats being strong no matter who wins the nomination, and I don't agree at all---I won't agree at all. I have a choice, and it will never be for Clinton. I don't believe in her, I don't trust her, and I take every chance I have to say so. The Democrats better never take another vote for granted. To blame Ralph Nader for the loss in 2000 is sheer stupidity; no one owes the Democrats the presidency, they must earn it with a good candidate that brings the country together. I couldn't be happier now that I clearly have a better choice if Hillary wins the nomination.
- rukkyg, on 02/03/2008, -3/+11I couldn't agree more.
There's something about the way that woman yells that reminds every man of their mother. And their mother is not someone they want to be running their lives again. - culbeda, on 02/03/2008, -1/+8Speaking as a former (long-since) Republican / Dittohead, you'll have to trust me when I say those same Republicans you claim hate McCain loathe "Billary" on a scale you can't imagine. Their dislike for McCain is of no consequence.
Then again, Mitt becoming the nominee would be the worst thing for the Mormon church EVER. Never will so many be so aware of just how goofy some of the LDS beliefs really are. On that score, I'm almost cheering for Mitt to get the nomination. - rukkyg, on 02/03/2008, -1/+8...isn't that the pre-911 republican strategy?
- courtjester555, on 02/03/2008, -2/+9Lies! I don't want Cheney in office any longer.
- bizkit00, on 02/03/2008, -1/+8*eagles2k3 starts kicking and screaming as he sees the election results coming in, "He can't win! He can't! Nooooo!"
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