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- slimjim85, on 01/31/2008, -11/+153Howard Dean needs to step up and tell Hillary that she has to abide by the rules her party sets. Rules that she agreed to. If Hillary was really worried about the voters like she now claims, she wouldn't have signed an agreement not to campaign in MI and FL. This just goes to show that all the Clintons care about is getting back into power, and they will do anything to make that happen.
Obama '08!
Yes We Can. - N3tw0rk, on 01/31/2008, -14/+79Hillary has no integrity. Her campaign has been based on lies. I don't understand what people see in her. She will not bring honesty and integrity to the White House. Just look at all lies she has repeated these last few months.
Hillary's "Experience" Lie
Clinton: "I am uniquely qualified at this moment in our history to be the president we need starting in 2009 … I think it is informed by my deep experience over the last 35 years, my firsthand knowledge of what goes on inside a White House." Thirty-five years takes you back to 1973, half of which Hillary spent in law school. Clinton: "Experience in foreign affairs is critical for ending the war in Iraq, averting war in Iran, negotiating a Middle East peace and dealing with North Korea." During her husband's two terms in office, Hillary Clinton did not hold a security clearance, did not attend meetings of the National Security Council, and was not given a copy of the president's daily intelligence briefing. During trips to Bosnia and Kosovo, she "acted as a spokeswoman for American interests rather than as a negotiator." On military affairs, most of her experience derives not from her White House years but from serving on the Senate armed services committee.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26cl ...
http://www.slate.com/id/2182073/pagenum/all/
Clinton lies about Obama's record
"He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively. But Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator. Obama served eight years in the Illinois state Senate and is halfway through his first term in the U.S. Senate. Clinton is about to begin her eighth year in the U.S. Senate. Going by years spent as an elective official, Obama's 11 years exceeds Clinton's seven. Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service. Nobody else running for president, besides Obama, has jumped off the career track for three or four years to help other people.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080116/ap_on_el_pr/ob ...
Clinton group trying to prevent Nevada workers from voting
"A lawsuit filed in federal court seeks to stop the Democratic Party from holding caucus meetings at nine Strip hotels, which would diminish the influence of casino workers and hamper Illinois Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign."
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/12/voting ...
Clinton campaign has sought to suppress the vote of her rivals' supporters
"Nevada State Education Association is widely seen as filing a suit on Clinton's behalf to stop Las Vegas' most powerful union, Culinary Workers Local 226, from caucusing inside downtown casinos after the union endorsed Barack Obama. In the first primary state, her supporters -- backed by New Hampshire Democratic Party officials -- pressured poll workers to remove observers stationed by the Obama campaign. These volunteers had intended to track voters as part of their get-out-the-vote effort. And in Iowa, the Clinton campaign -- with the help of the state's largest newspaper, the Des Moines Register, which endorsed her -- was discouraging students from returning from winter break to vote, even though their right to do so was legal"
http://www.alternet.org/story/73782
Clinton Lies About Obama Abortion Record
"Hillary Rodham Clinton criticizes rival Barack Obama's record on abortion rights in a mailing sent to New Hampshire voters. The mailer says that seven times during his time in the Illinois state Senate, Obama declined to take a position on abortion bills, while Clinton has been a defender of abortion rights. During his eight years in the legislature, Obama cast a number of votes on abortion and received a 100 percent rating from the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council for his support of abortion rights, family planning services and health insurance coverage for female contraceptives. He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive, a vote that especially riled abortion opponents."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ip2G-tP8Bkle1aH ...
Hillary Clinton's "don't ask" policy
She tells crowds that it’s their turn to “pick a president,’’ but does not invite them to ask her any questions. When she’s done speaking, her theme songs blare from loudspeakers, preventing any kind of public Q&A.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2007/12 ...
The Clintons are lying about Obama's remarks on Reagan
When the Clintons used "better" and "good" in alluding the Obama's remarks, they weren't paraphrasing, they weren't misremembering, they weren't distorting. They were simply lying.
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ez ...
ABC News Calls Out Clintons for Consistent Lies about Obama
The ease with which a former President and former First Lady lie to the American people should disturb us. ABC News reviews the lies the Clintons have told voters recently about Senator Barack Obama.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/ob ...
Hillary's Dirty Politics and Inaccuracies
Sen. Clinton began distorting Obama's record by airing a television attack that twists a recent Obama statement about former President Ronald Reagan to the point of clear inaccuracy. Sen. Clinton also accused Obama of helping a corrupt Chicago businessman with his "slum landlord business." The truth is that Obama had put in five hours of work as a junior law firm associate helping to represent a community organization that had partnered with the businessman. The truth is also that Obama fought slumlords as a community organizer.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/01/24/200 ...
Clinton: "I Never Would Have Taken Us to War in Iraq"
Clinton voted to give Bush authority to invade Iraq in Oct. 2002 and that she rejected withdrawal plans for years afterward.
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-usadva0106, ...
Hillary Clinton Voted to Continue Cluster Bombing Civilians
This vote was cast in September 6, 2006 on an amendment to the Defense Appropriations act by Senator Dianne Feinstein. Senator Feinstein's own description of the amendment: "I offer an amendment to the Defense appropriations bill to address a humanitarian issue that I have actually thought a great deal about over a long period of time; that is, the use of the cluster bomb. The human death toll and injury from these weapons is felt every day, going back decades. Innocent children think they are picking up a play toy in the field and suddenly their arm is blown off. I believe we need to take a look at our policies and adjust them. Specifically, our amendment would prevent any funds from being spent to purchase, use, or transfer cluster munitions until the rules of engagement have been adopted by the Department of Defense to ensure that such munitions will not be used in or near any concentration of civilians, be it permanent or temporary, such as inhabited parts of cities or villages or in camps or columns of refugees or evacuees." Clinton voted NAY
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_li ...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/21/15184 ...
Hillary falsely claims that her mother had actually named her after the famous and intrepid explorer, Sir Edmund Hillary, conqueror of Mount Everest
On a first-lady goodwill tour of Asia in April 1995—the kind of banal trip that she now claims as part of her foreign-policy "experience"—Mrs. Clinton had been in Nepal and been briefly introduced to the late Sir Edmund Hillary, conqueror of Mount Everest. Ever ready to milk the moment, she announced that her mother had actually named her for this famous and intrepid explorer. Sen. Clinton was born in 1947, and Sir Edmund Hillary and his partner Tenzing Norgay did not ascend Mount Everest until 1953, so the story was self-evidently untrue and eventually yielded to fact-checking.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hillary.as ...
http://www.slate.com/id/2182065/
$500,000,000 in Porkbarrel Earmarks to Donors
Since 2001, Hillary Clinton has delivered $500 million worth of earmarks that have specifically benefited 59 corporations. 64% of those corporations provided funds to her campaigns through donations made by executives, board members, or lobbyists. Clinton has earmarked more than $2.3 billion in federal appropriations for projects.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-earmark ...
In Charity and Politics, Clinton donors overlap. How to Legally Buy a President
Last year, contributions reached $135 million, a 70 percent increase over the previous year. Two-thirds came from just 11 donors. For weeks, Clinton Foundation officials had suggested that the $31.3 million contribution listed on its tax return did not come from a single donor. They then said it came from a single source, but declined to identify the source. The New York Times examination found that while some $1 million contributors were longtime Clinton friends, others were seeking policy changes from the administration. Two pledged $1 million each while they or their companies were under investigation by the Justice Department.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20cl ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22335754/ - proseandpromise, on 01/31/2008, -7/+67Wow. The number of disenfranchised Clinton supporters just keeps growing and growing. There was a real sense of remorse there - a hesitent shift away from the Clintons. I find all of this incredible. It makes me believe that Change is more than rhetoric. Things are shifting as we speak.
- mreal197, on 01/31/2008, -8/+56I just hope Edwards & Richardson realize the future of the Democratic Party is not the Clintons. If they support Obama, they could leave Billary on an island outside the party where they belong. They are both relatively young with good futures in the party. They could join Obama and usher in a new future for the party. Obama, Edwards, Richardson, McCaskill, Sebelius, Napolitano, Gore (if he dips his toe back in the water) is a dynamic, nobel direction forward. I think the Democratic Party could grow exponentially with these faces leading the charge. I dread the thought of going backwards to the infighting and anger the Clintons bring to the table. I pray everyday that the Democratic majority see the vision and vote Obama.
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...That's longer than many voters have been *alive.* - relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -2/+34"Florida and Michigan don't count for anything."
- Hillary Clinton after Iowa
"Florida counts for EVERYTHING"
- Hillary Clinton now - nomadhacker, on 01/31/2008, -0/+21The point of voting is to vote for who you think will be best. If you just vote for the front runner, then congratulations, you *have* just wasted your vote.
- nonsequitor, on 01/31/2008, -0/+20Vote your principles. Remember, you're voting, not betting.
- TTBEEP, on 01/31/2008, -8/+27I have absolutely NO idea why I am still continuously "shocked" at the Clintons' and their tricks! You would think I would be over it now! I'm surprised at how people can still support her after all the lying and conniving she is doing! It really says a lot about us Americans! I don't know... but I'm starting to get the impression that her supporters are not really for her, just against the black guy.. Either way, it saddens me to see the hypocrisy!
I truly feel in my heart that America will eventually open their eyes and see that Obama is our only hope! America will speak! President Obama will bring back our good name!
OBAMA 08'!!!!!!!!!!! - inactive, on 01/31/2008, -2/+19what else could be expected from "ieataquacrayons"?
- V0lk, on 01/31/2008, -1/+18votes don't count...delegates do. In Florida it was Hillary 0, Obama 0.
- techstar25, on 01/31/2008, -7/+22The vote was meaningless folks.
If you are a Democrat in Florida, and on your lunch break you have a choice to either (a) go vote in a primary that's meaningless or (b) eat lunch. Which would you choose?
If you are on your way home from work and you have a choice (a) stop and vote in a primary that's meaningless or (b) get home and see you family. Which would you choose?
How could the results be considered meaningful? - rz8472, on 01/31/2008, -2/+15Hillary also wants the Michigan delegates to be represented and stated that AFTER she had won the state with no one else on the ballot. That is the height of old-school politics.
- RIadguy, on 01/31/2008, -4/+17I've been in the advertising and PR business, on the creative side,for 36 years. When Bill was elected, I said to my wife "This is the first president to be totally packaged by a PR machine. It's very dangerous." Regardless of his presidency, Bill Clinton lied to the American people on national television and by doing so, disengaged an entire generation of kids who now view the presidency with considerably less respect and aspiration. You can expect expect the same from Hillary. Her campaign machine is like the Borg. Well oiled, always assimilating, and relentlessly ethics-free.
- elipabst, on 01/31/2008, -1/+13I strongly disagree. I think it is a big issue. It is a direct insight into the character of these candidates. Look at what happened in 2000 and again in 2004...America chose the guy who was willing to do whatever it took to win, whether that meant mudslinging John McCain or Swiftboating John Kerry. And look how that turned out for us...big shock.... a guy who was willing to do anything to consolidate his own power, regardless of whether he had to lie to the American people or blatantly disregard the Constitution. We need to elect someone we know has the character and moral compass to bring respect back to the Oval Office and to America itself.
- DRINKxREDxBULL, on 01/31/2008, -0/+12I hope you are being sarcastic. I hate to think that ever growing aspects of my life are controlled by a majority of people like you.
- mkling176, on 01/31/2008, -2/+13Either way Howard Dean is pretty much the man.
BYAAAHHHHHH!!!!! - Gerz1219, on 01/31/2008, -2/+12We're seeing cognitive dissonance in action on a national scale. When you're behind a politician's platform, you develop a bias towards their policies and tactics. If Gore had won Florida by 200 votes, there'd still be Republicans bitching about hanging chads. For Democrats, when the Clintons were on "our" side, we looked the other way at a lot of this *****. Because, after all, we wanted them to win and we didn't want four years of George H.W. Bush or Bob Dole. For the first time in their political careers, a very large percentage of Democrats are finally understanding the right's (formerly) irrational hatred of the Clintons, because being an Obama supporter puts us on the opposite side of the coin.
Since this Michigan/Florida debacle is occurring between two candidates I would vote for in a general election, I find it easier to be objective. And Billary's tactics here strike me as objectively wrong. The mainstream media's snarky coverage of Hillary's fake acceptance speech, along with Ted Kennedy's endorsement, tells me that the establishment isn't going to let them get away with this trick. I think this Florida gambit is just the sort of excuse a lot of fence-straddlers need to jump over to the Obama camp. It flipped my parents. - iofthestorm, on 01/31/2008, -1/+11OK well, ignoring your completely wrong bit about her showing up after the polls closed, let's think about the history of this issue.
First, the DNC says that no states can move their primaries ahead of Feb. 5th except for the ones that are already before February 5th. Florida and Michigan do so anyway, knowing that they will lose their delegates. Can you really argue that it's the DNC's fault that the Florida and Michigan Democratic Parties are retarded? I don't think so... FL and MI just wanted more attention, as if being riddled with voting machine issues wasn't publicity enough (for Florida, anyway, dunno about Michigan). - MacEnvy, on 01/31/2008, -1/+10If they decide that Florida will get its delegates back, they will hold another election in Florida to determine the proper delegate count. She's campaigning for delegates in that election.
I won't say whether it's "right" or "wrong", but it's important to understand why she is there. Personally, I think it's just a scummy way of stealing some virtually guaranteed delegates from a state she knows she'll win, after said state violated the rules knowing full well that they would lose their delegates. - mv1008, on 01/31/2008, -2/+10i friggin hate my state
- angers, on 01/31/2008, -0/+8it will only happen if we spread the word to others not associated with digg.
- inactive, on 01/31/2008, -1/+8I sure hope someone in the Clinton camp reads up on Digg. Count me among the Clinton disenfranchised. What a blunder. NAKED, RAW AMBITION on Hillary's part and Bill has come off looking like the biggest ass. He should sit down, shut up and listen to Uncle Ted. It must be OBAMA. The Clintons will be too divisive and will subject us to many more years of partisan shenanigans. We need a clean slate, hope and ideals. We need to re-invent America. You do not need experience for that, because that has to live in your soul from the start.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -1/+8"Obama supporters would like you to think that our votes in Florida didn't count for anything."
Yes, HILLARY SAID JUST THAT. VERBATIM. - inactive, on 01/31/2008, -2/+8watch out!...if she doesn't get the nomination, she will cry....
- UltraMegaFilms, on 01/31/2008, -8/+14Yet your comment has a higher worthless/word ratio. I fart on your *****.
- momomathew, on 01/31/2008, -0/+6The problem is, Hillary is not crystal clear on what she is going to do. Two questions for Hillary supporters.
1) When Bill and Hillary are together on stage, who are you cheering for, Bill or Hillary?
2) If it was Hillary Rodham (not ever Clinton), would you even care? - meanrabbit, on 01/31/2008, -4/+10Note to all Hillary supporters.. Time to grow up and face the truth of her lies
- marytnurse, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5THAT'S WHAT HILLARY SAID! She's the one who said that FL and MI didn't count, and then she states that Obama said it. She and Carl Rove must be sharing the same brain.
- martalli, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5I think your life would be controlled actually by the majority's impression of their own majority believes...but not actually what the majority believes. Did that come out right?
- marytnurse, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5Except that a national ad buy cannot be 'blocked' in certain areas. The DNC agreed that this was legit. I guess we could have forced those horrid people in FL to turn off their TVs and radios so they avoided the national ads...None of CLinton's ads were played there as she didn't get national ads. Now, I hope you don't feel ignored!
- martalli, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5I guess there was some other stuff on the ballot, like voter initiatives and the like. Many people who voted (event he republicans, who had their delegates halved in number) may have been out to put their vote down on these initiatives.
- nonsequitor, on 01/31/2008, -1/+6Dugg for being able to say absolutely nothing with so many words.
Saying she'll "protect and preserve the status quo" followed by calling her the "candidate of non-disruptive change" means absolutely nothing. My hat is off to you sir, well played. - phunkytech, on 01/31/2008, -1/+6Dynasty!
- RajAtWork, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5yes and then Jeb for 8 years and then Chelsea for 4 ;-)
- edicttree, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5The nifty thing about this is that more people voted for a candidate in the democratic primary (that didn't matter) vs candidates in the republican primary. Think about that for a moment.
- StarlessKnight, on 01/31/2008, -0/+5"I hope Hillary gets the nomination, if only to shut up you obnoxious little babies, most who aren't even old enough to vote."
You're calling them babies, when you're the one behaving childish. I'd vote (nominate--or just hope others vote for her so you don't have to take any "blame" later) for Hillary just to get back at you, nah nah nah boo boo. At least those "babies" stand for something; you just stand for retribution that they're annoying you. Using an election just to get back at people that annoy you, is it any wonder our country is falling apart? That's a rhetorical question, by the way. - Ireland, on 01/31/2008, -0/+4You're so negative.
- Ranvier, on 01/31/2008, -2/+6Obama didn't really lose NH or Nevada. He got the same number of delegates in NH and actually got ONE MORE then Hillary in Nevada.
- stanti, on 01/31/2008, -1/+5No HillBilly in '08
- martalli, on 01/31/2008, -1/+5aqua poo?
- synaesthesia, on 01/31/2008, -1/+5What are these rules that you're saying Obama broke?
- mortinmaxwell, on 01/31/2008, -1/+5Probably on a station across state lines that happens to broadcast in Florida too. I live in Illinois but I could listen to political ads for the Iowa Caucus on an Iowa radio station, that does not mean people were campaigning in Illinois.
- marytnurse, on 01/31/2008, -3/+6Clearly you have no idea what Al Gore went through contesting the election to the Supreme Court. They terrorized his kids, they blared music at his house day and night and followed him and his entire family everywhere they went, they gave them not a moment's peace. This was a horrific way to treat a civil servant REGARDLESS of politics. While I agree I'd have liked to have seen some fight from Kerry (like the young man that got tased asking him why we didn't), I can't deny that Gore and his family were TERRORIZED.
The truly MOST obscene thing is, we continue to allow our elections to be stolen, suppression happens every election, voter caging is QUITE an issue and illegal as can be...
And yet we still have voting machines, and not paper and pencil and HAND COUNTED BALLOTS. If this were a foreign country, we'd have the UN in counting our ballots for us. But we are so damned impatient we can't stand to wait a couple of hours to hand count them, so we let a machine do it anyway, and screw us EVERY TIME!!! blackboxvoting.org or youtube hacking democracy CLEARLY tells the story.
And yes, it's a big issue. Telling people that your opponent said the words that you yourself said is Rovian, which has come to mean the same as Machiavellian. Clinton is portraying that Obama said their votes don't count when it was SHE who said that. Now, given her name recognition, she slides her way to a victory and guess what, she wants the delegates to count...How can this not be an issue? - mortinmaxwell, on 01/31/2008, -0/+3Thank god people can recognize sarcasm.
- DaedalusvX, on 01/31/2008, -0/+3Something like:
"[Mrs. Clinton], what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no [delegates], and may God have mercy on your soul." - marytnurse, on 01/31/2008, -2/+5Stop it.
- slimjim85, on 01/31/2008, -1/+4um, when did I say she campaigned in FL? yeah thats right... i didnt. All i said was that she signed an agreement that she wouldn't campaign there - this shows that she agreed with what the party was doing, if she wanted to make a stand for the "good of democracy" she would have done it then! not after she won a primary against no one and one where no one got to campaign/make their case for your vote.
- amembrane, on 01/31/2008, -0/+3Yeah, one of the initiatives was a property tax reduction, and I think that had way more to do with the turn-out. Our polling place was almost as full as it is for general elections.
- marytnurse, on 01/31/2008, -1/+4Sorry, not. National ads that are shown for example on MSNBC cannot be blocked from one area. DNC was asked and they approved it.
What people forget is that this is not an "election" as much as it is a competition. The DNC is the judge. -
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