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- lordtyros, on 10/11/2007, -6/+98Well, you could tell they left the ending wide open for a sequel.
- doctorfungi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+63"Israeli forces did not retaliate and the government made clear it wanted no escalation into another border war."
That's good to hear. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -12/+66fighters don't wear masks and bomb innocent children and women
Sorry these are not fighters they are scum. - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -10/+62Hezbolla targets Israeli civilians and hides behind their own.
Israel targets Hezbolla terrorists which hide behind their own Lebanese civilians. - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -11/+54It tells me that Israelis are defending themselves. It tells me that Hezbolla continues to use their own civilians as shields. It tells me that the terrorists aren't trying to protect their people. It tells me that Israel will NOT live under the fear of terrorists. It tells me that there is some sanity in warfare. (At least on the Israeli side)
It's sad to admit, but the Israeli government has been accepting this policy for years.
"We can forgive you for killing our sons. But we will never forgive you for making us kill yours."
-Golda Meir - unibomber999, on 10/11/2007, -5/+41Besides the fact that this story happens to be about...wait for it...ARAB TERRORISTS!
Next time the IRA is active, we'll talk about Irish terrorists. Do you see the pattern? - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -23/+54Because "getting along" is against the Arab Terrorist's handbook. Look at Iraq, Lebanon, and Palestine right now!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -22/+52"The sign of intelligent people is their ability to control emotions by the application of reason." -- Marya Mannes
There is OBVIOUSLY very little intelligence amoung the Muslims in the Middle East. As an objective WASP American that studies the Middle East I can tell you that 99% of the problems there are caused by the Muslims.
Israel - Educated, Productive, Hard-Working people with a thriving economy that is NOT dependent on one commodity (oil)
Rest of the Middle East - Mostly uneducated, unproductive and lazy people that spend their time filling their children's heads with hate. If it weren't for oil they would be living in caves....oh, wait....they ARE living in caves.
The Jews have bent over backwards to accomodate the Muslims, who want nothing less than to exterminate the Jews...go figure. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -18/+47@chris........
You are wrong..........
The problem is that ONE of the religions is intolerant of other religions...
The problem is that ONE of the religions tells it's followers to convert or kill others...
The problem is that ONE of the religions rewards it's followers for being suicidal maniacs and killing innocent people (suicide bombers)....
Can you guess what that ONE religion is ?????????????????? - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -13/+42I wrote "Arab" because most terrorists make demands and move on. This particular group, Arab Terrorists, makes little demands that are possible. They want a government to be destroyed, a people to be destroyed, and the assassinations of many leaders. (Sectarian violence sickens me) These demands are not plausible and can not be reached. There can be compromises though.
Other terrorists groups have demanded small changes and eventually settle. If they win then they stop. The ability to compromise and keep promises leads to success.
However, when Israel gives land to Arabs as a peace settlement, the Arab terrorists continue to fight. Hence, my "getting along" statement. - mrharvey518, on 10/11/2007, -9/+37"Ohh ohh, I know I know - you probably won't like the answer - but ultimately, ONE nation has the ability to wage war, and one is having a hard time feeding itself..."
The inhabitants of Gaza and the West Bank have a hard time feeding themselves because of their own poor decisions. Israel has made things harder for the suicide bombers, and by doing so, things have become harder for the rest of their community. These people have sacrificed the well-being of their children in order to wage war against the Jews and now people like you blame the Jews like they are the ***** in the situation. No one is saying that the state of Israel is always right, but in this situation, the people of Palestine need to grow up, and think about their children's future instead of sacrificing it to murder Jews. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -17/+42.....you are ignorant of the politics of the Middle East. One side wants to be left alone....One side want to eradicate the other side.
Your statement that blaming one side and not the other is typical of today's values neutral, politically correct, afraid to offend mentality.....AND...you are wrong. The Jews are not the aggressors here.... - rwinograd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25@waiting2awake
"You're contention is that Israel isn't agressive seems to ignore the most recent invasion into Lebanon" - years after withdrawing from a buffer zone and having to deal with repeated attacks by missiles
"it seems to forget the attack on the German warship while acting as peacekeepers for the region" - http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/ap/2006/10/25/europe/EU_GEN_Germany_Israel_Lebanon.php..."A ministry spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Wednesday that the planes — two F-16s — apparently fired two shots in the air and released flares, which can be used as a defense measure against heat-seeking missiles". So they warned the ship that they were there and took defensive measures? OMG!!
"it seems to forget the attack on the red cross site" - proved as false: http://zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/
It is you who are forgetting facts it appears/ - lnf69, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19Well, I guess here at Digg, "Who" submitted the story is more important then "When" the story was submitted.
If you're not one of the few "power" users, your story will never get to the front page.
Because in the world of humans, socializing == popularity. - pitlord, on 10/11/2007, -5/+21"A Lebanese security source also blamed Palestinians, though any motivation was unclear."
They're tired of just fighting the Lebanese army so the terrorists are trying to draw Israel into the fight. Eventually they'll succeed in another kidnapping, or other horrible attack against Israel, and when Israel retaliates someone will somehow blame the Jews again.
-_- - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -4/+19This claim could have been made back in the year 2000 when Israel was in Lebanese ground, but thats not the case anymore.
Terrorist bases are set up in Lebanon by individuals that are not backed by the Lebanese government. They are being funded by Syria and Iran. They are using terrorists methods in order to weaken Israel publicly. They attack Israeli soil with rockets that are either aimed at civilian locations or at no location at all. Israel has a right to defend itself by attacking back, but the scumbag terrorists bury themselves under their OWN PEOPLE! This forces Israel to attack civilian locations because the terrorists are hiding their.
What should Israel do? Accept the bombardment of missiles. - JohnReb, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17jambi: "And yet the IDF still shoots through the civilians in order to get at Hezbollah. What does that tell you?"
It tells me that the IDF is aware that the Geneva Conventions specifically place the blame for injuries to civilian population on the military, or paramilitary forces that situate themselves among the civilians.
In other words, the IDF is following the GC and Hezbollah is not. - webcure, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15Let's hope not!
- yfph, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11"Ohh ohh, I know I know - you probably won't like the answer - but ultimately, ONE nation has the ability to wage war, and one is having a hard time feeding itself..."
Maybe if the Palestinians spent the donated funds on food, medicine, and rebuilding their war-torn infrastructure rather than more ammunitions, we wouldn't be talking about their looming humanitarian crisis. - manogamez, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13So many trolls! There are at least 3 people here who have more than 5 posts! Learn to debate, not flood.
- Liam76, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11@ freemacedonia
No Israel is the good guy because they make keep peace treaties, they honor cease fires, when palestenians are slaughtering each other in the streets they allow refugees in (as is currently happening).
Israel bulldozed the homes of their own citizens for a chance at peace, and palestenians used that as a platform to lob more rockets at them. - ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@webcure (#7234322)
http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw070406_1_n.shtml article dated about 06 April 2007:
"Lebanon's Hizbullah organisation is mobilising its military wing, the Islamic Resistance (IR), in preparation for an expected new confrontation with Israel in mid-2007. " - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Canada has rockets??
- Kitsune818, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yeah, they're powered by snow and back bacon.
- popothebright, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13@Bedrovelesen
The number of Arab deaths caused by Arabs over the pst five years VASTLY outweighs deaths caused during the Arab Israeli conflict.
And Arab casualties by Israeli forces were largely MILITARY casualties, not civilians.
The reality is we have tens of thousands dead in Shia/Sunni conflicts. We have Hizb'allah seriously endangering the lives of residents in their own communities by striking from the most populated areas. We have 500,000 (Half a MILLION!) dead in Darfur at Muslim hands. And the world does not care.
Furthermore we have more Africans killed in Ivory Coast at French hands than Arabs at Israelis'
We have more Chechens killed at Russian hands than Arabs at Israelis'
The lists go on and on.
What the world *really* cares about apparently is what Israel is doing. Israel is held to a separate and incomparable standard.
Why? Because people are uneducated.
People like you. - yhan, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11I think it's ultimately wrong to only blame palestinians, lebanese and muslims in general for this israeli muslim-world conflict.
I think it's important to see this from a different perspective. The way most palestinians feel is that there's a foreign army occupying their territory being that same foreign army controlling their every move with checkpoints at every mile. This is of course a brutal simplification but sums their feelings quite well. I'm sure lebanese also aren't that happy after an invasion.
When people live in conditions like that, desperation causes them to align with more extremist views. And, of course, countries like Iran and Syria take advantage of that. But then again, what's that different from western countries like the US supporting extremist groups in that same region that fit their objectives?
It's quite sad to see so many diggers painting the scenario as black and white. - wubblie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Hey Hipnerd
Um, "Soviet-era rockets that hurt no one."
Yeah, they were actually loading them up with ball bearings and they killed 43 people and injured 4,262- all civilians.
"According to Human Rights Watch, "These bombs may have killed 'only' 43 civilians, but that says more about the availability of warning systems and bomb shelters throughout most of Northern Israel and the evacuation of more than 350,000 people than it does about Hezbollah's intentions.""
They were deliberately targeting civilians.
The cluster weapons were used at the end of the conflict to deny Hezbollah positions near the border where they could fire their rockets. There was a military objective, even if civilians were killed. Hezbollah was using the populace human shields, so there were more civilian casualties than there should have been, and Israel is not responsible for that, Hezbollah is. I'm not defending Israel, but Hezbollah was firing rockets with warheads wrapped in ball bearings into Israeli cities from the start of the conflict, so it is pretty hard to focus on Israel as the bad guy. Sorry. - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7No, Israel's failure of the last conflict was their unwillingness to take ground and possibly inflict civilian casualties. Which Hezbollah used to their advantage by placing Lebanese civilians in the areas from which they launched their attacks.
I've said this in another thread... with Hezbollah having three toe-holds surrounding Israel, it's only a matter of time before they attack in force. I have a fear that the only reason that Hezbollah is waiting is so that it can entrench itself, build weapons caches and when the time is ripe, they will attack Israel in a three pronged attack that will target the capitol of Israel. I also fear that Iran, Syria, and possibly others have been feeding the insurgences in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to bog us down so that we can't do anything about Israel.
I'm afraid this is Ahmadinejad's boast coming to fruition.
It will probably be seen as one of the catalysts of the coming Middle East War... that will likely spread into a world war. And everyone will point at the US and say its our fault. - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Same Old Pattern:
1. Syria kills off anti-Syrian Lebanese politician with car bomb
2. International Community expresses outrage at Syria
3. Hezbollah fires rockets into Israel
4. Israel bombs the crap out of Hezbollah
5. International Community forgets entirely about Syria, goes after Israel
6. Rinse
7. Repeat - ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@veronica (#7247604) said: "Come on!
>...easily see that most (actually, all) jew holocausts and persecutions where done by the hands of europeans.
You're correct in observing that Jews faired better at the hands of Arabs historically that at the hands of the Europeans. However, if you think that Arabs treated Jews well in most periods of history, you are sadly mistaken. Mohamed himself destroyed destroyed Arabian Jewish tribes for refusing to convert to Mohammedanism. And what about the Pact of Omar, which forbade Jews from building new synagogues, forcing Jews to pray quietly and forbidden them from preventing other Jews from converting to Islam? Not to mention the prohibition from riding horses, holding judicial and civil posts, and forcing Jews to wear yellow patches?! And eventually expelling Jews from all of Arabia? I wonder who the Nazi's took their lessons from? - snotrokit, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7would you like to play a game of chess?
- hubzidig, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8If rockets had landed in the US from Mexico or Canada, you can bet we'd get in there. (Even if Bush wasn't President.....)
- wpi97, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7And which land would that be? I don't know where you have been, but Israeli forces withdrew from Lebanon COMPLETELY in 2000.
- DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -2/+6@nullcodes
You made two good analogies, but they are flawed because most of the Lebanese people are supporters of Hezbolla. That means that a lot openly allow Hezbolla to stay in their buildings. I still consider them innocent, but they are putting themselves in danger. However, they are definitely "the people" of Hezbolla. - Philipp_Lenssen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I must not discuss politics on Digg... I must not discuss politics on Digg... I must not discuss politics on Digg... I must not discuss politics on Digg...
- wpi97, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7@hypocritedigg
If two crazy Americans launch rockets into Canada, keep doing that for years, kidnap or kill American citizens, and the US government does nothing about it, but instead supports it, then Canada has the full right to respond with whatever force is necessary to stop it. - thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Too close to Israel and they are too dispersed for a nuke to do anything useful.
- KiLLB0T, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9"Here we go again - [blame it on the Palestinians]"
- lnf69, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5that link still splits up the article in 3 pages in my browser (firefox). But thanks for the try.
- HypocriteDigg, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11So if two crazy Americans launch some rockets into Canada, does that give Canada the right to nuke the east coast?
If you ask the crazy neocon fascists that post on Digg it does. - heaintheavy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6This video gives you an idea of what the rockets look like...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=32ea0d3fc0 - wpi97, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I don't know where you have been hiding, but Lebanon does have a military. And there have been UN "peacekeepers" there for decades, who were supposed to keep Hezbollah in check. So much for that bright idea...
- darkhero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6The solution to the problem is arming the Lebanese Government. They are already getting some arms from Bush. But they need more. It is there ***** job to be stopping these missiles.
- stonerider, on 10/11/2007, -6/+9It bothers me greatly that many people don't see the Islamic Terrorists as cowards. What kind of people hide behind women and children when fighting? Only cowards. Have you seen on youtube.com these so-called "holy islamic warrirors" jerking off in public? Muslim terrorists should be castrated and then covered with pig's blood and then shot. Actually, let's do it to all Arabs, including the Saudis and let's not forget the Iranians too--they too are in bed with the Arabs these days. The whole world will be a better place with these people.
- emfb, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5@liberalplacebo - Is this seriously your homepage? http://www.aci.net/kalliste/homepage.html - Thats a joke right? RIGHT?
- wpi97, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6@hypocritedigg
Here are some facts for you. These are the casualties sustained by the opposing sides in all the wars that Israel has fought, including civilian deaths:
1948 War of Independence: Unknown (between 5,000 and 15,000)
1956 Suez war with Egypt: 650
1967 Six Day war: 21000
1968-1970 War of Attrition: 10000
1972 Yom Kipur War: 15,000
1982 Lebanon War: 9,800
1982-2000 South Lebanon Conflict: 8000
2006 Lebanon War: 1,191
2000-present: Second Intifada: 4,398
These data are from Wikipedia. So let us add up the numbers, shall we? In the disputed cases I went with the larger number, just to indulge you. The total, according to my calculations, is 85,039 people killed by the Israeli military, during almost 60 years of its existence, including both combatants and civilians.
Just for comparison, the number of people, mostly civilians, killed during the bombing of Dresden is estimated at 25,000–35,000. That is in ONE DAY! - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -2/+5I was on the Israeli-Lebanese border at Rosh Hanikra two days before the soldiers were kidnapped. I stayed until the end of July. I wish I was going back this summer.
- poogy21, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5That's an ignorant remark.
You can't lump Israel in to the "middle east" group because it stands out. It's the only democracy in the region and it is vital to the development of western countries (U.S. Especially - considering the amount of Research and Development and Intelligence Gathering). It is also plays a vital role in a Historical and religious sense.
To cast Israel aside and say "Let them blow each other up" is a give up on democracy, progress and perseverance. - DCB360, on 04/11/2008, -4/+7This video gives a good luck at what some terrorists look like.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=964_1181860210 - Skye16, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Yeah, but dude, that was my ***** car!
(Okay, it wasn't, but it had to be *somebody's*, and I bet he or she are really upset right about now.) -
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