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- revolution1x, on 10/11/2007, -5/+124"Here’s how caging worked, and along with Griffin’s thoughtful emails themselves you’ll understand it all in no time.
The Bush-Cheney operatives sent hundreds of thousands of letters marked “Do not forward” to voters’ homes. Letters returned (”caged”) were used as evidence to block these voters’ right to cast a ballot on grounds they were registered at phony addresses. Who were the evil fakers? Homeless men, students on vacation and — you got to love this — American soldiers. Oh yeah: most of them are Black voters.
Why weren’t these African-American voters home when the Republican letters arrived? The homeless men were on park benches, the students were on vacation — and the soldiers were overseas. Go to Baghdad, lose your vote. Mission Accomplished.
How do I know? I have the caging lists…
I have them because they are attached to the emails Rove insists can’t be found. I have the emails. 500 of them — sent to our team at BBC after the Rove-bots accidentally sent them to a web domain owned by our friend John Wooden."
From http://gregpalast.com/the-goods-on-goodling-and-the-keys-to-the-kingdom/ - dankenstein, on 10/11/2007, -6/+117Those caging documents are almost scarier than the comments in the emails themselves. Someone should mirror this quick.
Digg it to the front page, when the media willfully ignores the truth it is our duty to spread the truth despite suppression and ignorance. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -12/+103Great find!!!
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+87I'm Glad to see you think that throwing service men and women off the voter rolls because they're democrats is boring.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+81First, take your medication. Second, caging is illegal. Or are you going to claim that it's okay for the GOP to break the law because you like them. Third, take your meds. You'll feel much better.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -26/+102"You think the Democrats are any better? The system is *****."
Don't even start the "Democrats are just as bad as Republicans" *****. It's been demonstrated time and again that this is exactly how Rove and friends gets away with it. They break voting laws and simultaneously accuse Democrats of doing the same or worse (now using their handy pocket US Attorneys to make the claims).
The media figures "well, both sides must do it, so we'll let it slide."
But it's not the case that both sides do this, at least not on the national scale. The GOP has already been convicted of it in several places, and this is just the tip of the iceberg -- one email caught about Jacksonville. BTW, the charges against Democrats were all (as far as I know) thrown out.
All things are not equal. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+76This is big. The Bushies have been denying the existence of these emails. People shouldn't say this is "old news." The information in those emails could potentially put top level white house officials behind bars. This is important. Don't toss it out just because you only think with a clock that goes back four weeks.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -4/+76Because Monica Goodling proved in her testimony that the GOP was putting party operatives into supposedly non-political positions to do exactly what these emails entail -- disenfranchising American voters, among other things.
She mentioned "caging," but it wasn't followed up in the public part of the hearing. It may be soon. - neel360, on 10/11/2007, -3/+72I want to see the GOP try to respond to these...
"I have no recollection of having sent those emails..." - rald84, on 10/11/2007, -2/+67good lord ... did anyone see the comments in the only email with a photo? (scroll down!)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Krabill [mailto:rkrabill@georgewbush.com]
Subject: Spam Alert: RE: i think
Just stay away from Jenna or things could get ugly.
RJK
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Povia [dpovia@georgewbush.com]
Subject: i think
She and I would look good together…
Tue Jul 13,11:44 AM ET
U.S. President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and his daughter Barbara walk from the Marine One helicopter to Air Force One, July 13, 2004 at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, just outside Washington. Bush and his daughter are traveling to the Midwest for a two-day campaign trip. REUTERS/Larry Downing
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i think he's talking about hittin' it - keyboardduder, on 10/11/2007, -9/+73Wow, the more I read this it keeps getting more ***** up. LOOK AT YOUR HONEST REPUBLICANS! READ THIS SMEARING UNHONEST *****! http://2004.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/attachments/NEWT-WHAT_IS_AT_STAKE_IN_2004_ELECTION.pdf
- keyboardduder, on 10/11/2007, -8/+71Sorry for comment spam, heres the caging documents
http://2004.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/attachments/Caging.xls
http://2004.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/attachments/Caging-1.xls - iRoy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+58Because our government sucks.
- jmob, on 10/11/2007, -2/+56That's your problem right there. This isn't a liberal thing. If you would take off your horse blinders for a second you would see that this pisses a lot of people off across the board. This isn't about liberal or conservative, this is about people in high office who broke the law. Don't be such a narrow minded pussy. If everyone thought like you we'd be *****. Go back to building your sand castles. The rest of us in the real world are going to try to make a difference.
In other words, get out of our way. - EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+55Yeah. I had the same impression. Don't mess with Bush's daughter or you might wind up in Guantanamo.
- michaelb1, on 10/11/2007, -6/+56I dugg down but not because of the reasons you talked about.
I dugg down because you did not say one intelligent thing in your post.
Digg works because stupid ***** sinks to the bottom.
bye now. - Hacbarton, on 10/11/2007, -12/+58Understand something: American politics is built upon a two-party system because it makes it easier for them to throw the Lie. The Lie is that we choose who is elected. In a way, we do, but out of whom? The two candidates that the parties choose (and don't think the primaries matter; George W lost most of the primaries in 2004 and Howard Dean won more than John Kerry). By picking sides, you are becoming a part of the Lie. You are becoming, as Jon Stewart once put it, "partisan hackery." The GOP is ridiculously corrupt, and they were allowed to get that way because of people who pick sides. It would only take 10 years of a Democrat majority for them to become corrupt as well. The GOP and the Democrats are the exact same; one has just been in power too long. If the Democrats are still majority in 2016, we'll see who's more corrupt.
- Hacbarton, on 10/11/2007, -1/+45From Wikipedia article of "caging list":
"In October 2004, the BBC Newsnight program reported on an alleged so-called "caging list" maintained by the George W. Bush campaign that suggested that they may be planning possibly illegal disruption of African American voting in Jacksonville, Florida.
The BBC reports that it has obtained a document from George W. Bush's Florida campaign headquarters, inadvertently e-mailed to the parody website GeorgeWBush.org, containing a list of 1,886 names and addresses of voters in largely African-American and Democratic areas of Jacksonville. Democratic Party officials allege that the document is a "caging list" that the Bush campaign intends to use to issue mass challenges to African-American voters, in violation of federal law." - Broelke4, on 10/11/2007, -27/+69...God I hate .pdf files.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+43"I want to see the GOP try to respond to these..."
Actually, right now, I'm sure the GOP is trying to contact these people in Jacksonville, desperately trying to find ONE Republican on the list (or at least someone who will now say they are) to prove the GOP wasn't illegally disenfranchising Democrats, but doing their civic duty to purge the voter rolls of "bad data." As if.
Just watch Fox for the "it's all a big misunderstanding" story coming soon. - Ricapar, on 10/11/2007, -4/+46Pardon my ignorance, but what is "caging"?
- Augie1969, on 10/11/2007, -9/+51I'll see you at the Civil War.
Asshat - EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+42Beat me to it. I'll just add: if you look at the caging email on the main article's page, there's an XLS file with the names and addresses, presumably of those who'd been caged in the Jacksonville area. 1800+ people alone.
- johndoenumber2, on 10/11/2007, -7/+47I got the entire page and all attachments and will set up some mirrors. Good stuff and very telling.
- scoot87, on 10/11/2007, -0/+39Greg's Palast report on BBC Tv about the Caging list scam in 2004
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkvWkwv7UVo - keyboardduder, on 10/11/2007, -4/+43RTFA buffalodan,
The Emails that were accidentally sent are actually there. Eat it. The "story" is old but the actual emails are new. - Wailord, on 10/11/2007, -4/+40Are these from three years ago?
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -4/+39@Hacbarton: No one is saying the Democrats couldn't _become_ as corrupt. And there may be comparable offenses in other areas: fundraising, lobbying, and pork spending. But on this issue of election fraud, it's not balanced. Any claims of "everyone does it" are *****.
And if the Dems do it in 10 years, I'd be just as critical of them. Until then, it's a bit hypothetical. GOP did it, and they almost got away with it. Now is the time to make sure they don't. If we can hold them accountable, maybe neither party will risk trying this crap for a very long time. - revolution1x, on 10/11/2007, -3/+37Sounds like you didn't read past the first line.
"Welcome to the future home of the officious George W. Bush Presidential Library. This patriotic website will serve as an authoritative digital archive, dedicated to preserving and celebrating the godly legacy of the most honest, peaceful, and intelligent leader in the 6,000 year history of the planet Earth." - thalassicus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35well before you say you don't believe something in a public forum, you should do some research.
These emails weren't denied by the RNC. They only asked how the BBC got them.
This is not a Democrat vs. Republican issue. This is an attack upon the constitutional rights of Americans and citizens on both sides of the aisle should defend each others rights. - Capta1nA, on 10/11/2007, -5/+382004? why is this only getting attention now?
- Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -4/+36"Kerry is a spineless bitch but at least he's not a sack of *****."
The fact that we have to choose between a spineless bitch and a sack of ***** is pathetic. - venicerocco, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34It seems like every four months something emerges that's "HUGE" and will "put Republicans behind bars" etc.
Plame? WMDs? etc.
Unless Bush / Cheney are caught on video tape cackling, not one of these media-unfriendly stories will kill them off. - Ncrypt, on 10/11/2007, -4/+35Not old news. These emails are just being published for the first time. They prove that the stories in 2004 about caging were, in fact, true.
- Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -10/+41mirrored here all 3 files in one archive.. and since I'm Canadian and beyond the Bush regiem (aka american taliban)'s reach they can;t say squat... it if dies lmk and I'll be happy to upload it again and again :)
http://sharebee.com/d6e47a5c - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+31Or catch herpes.
- robdazomba, on 10/11/2007, -3/+32> *****!! - they have just now 3 years later 'found' all these emails on their servers.
No, the emails have been known to exist since 2004. The problem is that the so-called "liberal media" in the US hasn't bothered to bring it to our attention. Just because you're hearing of it now doesn't mean it just magically came into existence recently. Greg Palast (an American journalist writing in the UK) has been doggedly reporting on the election fraud in the US for 7 years now and has been repeatedly written off as a conspiracy nut. Please redirect your outrage at the corporate media. They are to blame for the marginalization of Palast's work and contribute greatly to the reason you're not informed. - EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+30Wouldn't it be great if the FBI obtained the RNC servers that have supposedly been erased and use some of that there fancy dandy forensic techno-gadetry stuff? Why aren't they? Who controls the FBI? I trust it more from an independent source, thank you.
Wasn't the FBI just caught vouching for Ann Coulter in a dispute over, what was it, her alleged voter registration fraud -- the kind the GOP accuses the Democrats of doing all the time? - eezzzz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24I'll see you on the NAFTA superhighway dude! Hey, got change for an Amero?
- SilverBack101, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24Someone needs to forward these to The Daily Show...I would love to see what John Stewart would say.
- WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+23Here's another link, with the Greg Palast interview on the Alex Jones radio show.
He describes the caging practices, and other things about these emails.
http://digg.com/politics/Proof_of_Rove_Vote_Fraud_Operation_Completely_Blacked_Out_In_US_Media - Loonacy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26A spineless coward who earned a purple heart?
- revolution1x, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22To have Greg Palast on the Daily Show to talk about this would make it even better.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+29""You think the Democrats are any better? The system is *****.""
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Wow you conservatives are so persecuted aren't you?
You're just the weak little kids cowering at the feet of the big bad Democrats from the way you talk.
But you know what? You have had the majority of the political power in the country for the last 6 years so I think, wait...yes that's correct, you are todays grand prize winners of a lifetime supply of "Shut The ***** Up!"
It goes great with pork and and hot air! - robdazomba, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21I blame the liberal media! Oh, damn... that excuse isn't going to work this time, is it?
- Sil369, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20Spam bots will have a field day spamming all those email addresses.
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22No one claimed they're all African American. But according to the implication of the email, these are people who were targeted and "caged," presumably because they're likely democrats. Other attachments seem to include some polling data, which I couldn't decipher immediately.
BTW, I read the names too, and I wonder how you're so good at telling people's skin color from their names... I live in the most racially diverse city in America and I can't. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23DIGG this WAY UP!!!
It may be a lot of material, but it is necessary information, everyone should read these. - Hacbarton, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21from Caging.xls
Mr. Antoinique Jackson (row 1692)
Ms. Jeneva Jackson (row 1691)
Ms. Shemekia Donald (row 1047)
Mr. Jerome Smith
Ms. Thresa Odom
I'm just sayin..... - swoopdog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19"i dont understand... this digg says that georgewbush.org is anti-bush site, but it is actually a site for a future online library. Sounds like this whole thing is pretty bogus to me."
georgewbush.org was setup before the 2004 election as a fake website modeled after the real one to show the real intentions of the bush administration. I dont see whats so bogus about it? -
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