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- PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -46/+103Ask yourself, people. What kind of organisation threatens to put to death those who dare to leave it after joining? This is barbaric behaviour. Let's say you joined the Rotary club and then subsequently left it. Do you think you'll be put to death? If you joined the Republican or Democratic Party in the US, or the Conservatives or Labour in England, and then you left, do you think you'll be killed?
I can only think of two types of organisations that kill its ex-members: (A) the Mafia, (B) a religious cult. Islam probably fits the latter.
But wait, there's more. Check out these images to see what Islam really is:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s55/patriotickiwi/salute2.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s55/patriotickiwi/pal_salute.jpg
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I rest my case... - agentofchange, on 10/12/2007, -14/+47has anybody else noticed that a lot of Muslim groups these days are being run like the mob instead of a religion?
a little line from the Sopranos might remind you of this article:
"Once you enter this family, There's no gettin out." - Uberdork, on 10/12/2007, -24/+45Islam is a religion of peace. Having divisiveness threatens this. They kill because they love.
- rolandde, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27The perpetrators should be rounded up and prosecuted under the letter of the secular law. No special treatment whatsoever. Free speech does not include the right to intimidate others under the treat of death. Their religious affiliation is a side matter; the fact that they are threatening somebodies life is the prime concern.
Plus, come on, a religious institution committing atrocities. You cannot solve religious disputes with reason (2000 years of theology is prove of that). Guess what's left? - AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -14/+29This story has been submitted and buried several times already.
- typecase, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Digg's turned into Islam hate central. Every hour there's a new "Muslims suck" story. I wish it was still about just about technology.
- computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15"Ask yourself, people. What kind of organisation threatens to put to death those who dare to leave it after joining?"
Scientology? - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Yeah it's been taken over.
- there, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14
A death threat to a convert Muslim atheist in Germany doesn't mean 800,000 Muslims all wish Sharia law. All it means is that the individual that wrote the threat is an idiot. This incident really isn't that different than so called Christians that wrote death threats to the Dixie Chick for daring to question the Gulf war. Does this mean that all christians which to kill us unless we convert? Unlikely.
Having said that it's important to mention many Muslim countries do routinely execute people that convert from Islam. That is clearly wrong and something that members of the Muslim diaspora need to communicate back to their original homeland.
People should be able to choose their own beliefs as free of coercion as possible. If force is required than it isn't a real choice.... just bullying. - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I see what you did, how original!
Lemme try one...
Yeah... America = land of freedom and tolerance... - PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -21/+30Also, it may help readers if I quote sources for where Muslims are getting their ideas from.
Note that these quotes are taken from the Hadith which forms the basis of Islamic Sharia Law. The Sahih Bukhari Hadith is regarded by Muslims as the most reliable and is used by the vast majority of mainstream Muslims. --> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahih_Bukhari
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Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57
Narrated 'Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/084.sbt.html
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Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58
[...]
There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Muisa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/084.sbt.html
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Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17
Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/083.sbt.html - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -11/+20Sharia law != Islam
- xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@uberdesigner "isn't Sharia is the purest form of Islam. Sort of like Catholics following the Pope's edicts."
Very few Catholics are fundamentalists who go to such lengths as what all of the Church preaches. The few I have met who do are Jesuit priests, they all did a vow of celibacy and poverty(well the ones I met anyways). They also help anyone they can anywhere they go and fight for human rights and equality whenever they have a chance to.
As far as I am concerned the "purest form of Islam" is following the 5 pillars of Islam which if you read what they are you'll see are quite benign (one is to give to the poor). Learn more on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Five_Pillars_of_Islam
Although it does sound like I am defending Islam and putting down Catholicism here, my point is that all succesful religions have some form protection system that kicks in when the religion is under attack. The protection system lays dormant when nothing is on the horizon but as soon as something hinders or threathens the religion it goes on attack mode. - TheWedge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13And for the record, I, like most rational people, oppose extremism of any form. I consider anyone who would suggest imposing their religion on anyone not welcoming it is an ***** and should be dealt with accordingly.
- sanman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16As a staunch atheist, I really have to condemn the Left-wing nuts who will give a clean chit to Islamists on all kinds of things that they won't do for other religions. Atheism is supposed to be a springboard to rationalism, but the Lefties are just as afraid of that as the Islamists are.
- PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18between PatrioticKiwi and AdmiralAdama, we could have a whole anti-Islam museum here. But really guys, if you're interested in Islam, or it's evils, i would suggest you go to an Islamic country, because trolling LGF and JihadWatch and Wikipedia are terrible places to learn about the religion and culture.
This is Digg, it's not the fukn Crusades. Get over it. - lukehh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Or, if you can't hop a plane, but want to see and Islamic country check this out:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4679426685869498072
yes its true! they don't all goose step and salute like nazis...... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10yet, another muslim story aimed to change people's views.
- krisper, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11The fact that the Little Green Footballs crowd is even attempting to hijack Digg proves for me that the experiment this site represents has failed. In the end, it'll come down to which mob is more persistent. I'm outta here.
- Roger, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15@patriotickiwi
From what I understand, many Muslims actually reject Sharia law. - AhmedF, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Amen.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Just to illustrate the obvious point that ALL the religions have something sick and violent dogma in their traditions -- for those lazy and stupid enough to follow dogma -- here's something from the 'Bible'...specifically the 'Old Testament' AKA 'The Torah', applicable to those who call themselves Jews or Christians, just as 'Sharia Law' is thought to be applicable to those who call themselves Muslims. (By ignorant observers, anyhow.)
It's a nice read....enjoy it!
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Sick Bible Verses
Here are some Holy Bible verses you might find "interesting."
"The Lord is a man of War!" -Moses (exo 15:3)
"people lamented because the Lord had smitten many people
with a great slaughter" (1samuel6:19)
"Take the HEADS of the people and hang them up before the Lord against the
sun!" (Numbers 25:8) …a grisly sight im sure!
there is a very sad story in judges about how this father sacrifices his
daughter to God, she was offered as a burnt offering! Judges 11:30-39
Concerning the LOVE of children; I would have to say there is none!
"Happy is he who dasheth thy little ones against the stones" Pslams 137:9
(pslams are considered the most wonderful in the bible!)
God orders child murder and rape in Isaiah 13:16-18! It is all in there.
"Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes!! (sick twist to
force them to watch?!) Their houses spoiled and their wives raped…dash the
young men to pieces… Have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the children
shall NOT be spared!"
The above crimes are committed several times in the bible, and there are
scripture showing the apparent sadistic nature of god by lines such as "The
Lord shall ENJOY destroying you" Castration is also advocated as a
punishment to enemies in deut 33:11!
Showing the twisted nature of this god there are quotes from him such as "I
will corrupt your seed and spread DUNG on your faces!" (Malachi 3:6) Can you
imagine the holy hand of god smearing ***** all over your face! Nice stuff
huh?
There are stories such as the one about the profit Elisha who was bald, and
when some kids snickered at him for that fact -God sent bears to tear the 42
children limb from limb! As Elisha grinned! This is used to scare into
submission children who might question or in any way disobey "holy" men.
Righteous men routinely, offer their virgin daughters to crazed mobs to rape!
Yes it is true! They even plead with them. "I have two daughters that have
not yet known man let me I PRAY YOU! Bring them out unto you and you do to
them what is good in your eyes, only to these men do nothing!"(genesis 19:8)
(ya see dear ol’ dad had company, and the mob wanted the two men he had over)
Dont worry the daughters were not raped and killed by the mob, they were
lucky -they got to have sex WITH THEIR OWN FATHER later in genesis
19:33!!!!! But wait! He was drunk, and THEY wanted it! Where have I heard
this before? Oh from degenerate incestuous child molesters! Great biblical
men right? Praise the lord!
Moses was on one of his killing sprees and he had just fished off the last of
the men. As he rode with his massive army into the village the women and
children probably were terrified. Would they be driven into the desert?,
would they lose their food supply? -It was much worse. Moses calmly tells one
of his captains to KILL EVERY MALE CHILD! Panic erupts. Mothers scream as
soldiers rip the babies from their breasts and slit their throats! Or perhaps
impale them with spears! Moses sees that the mothers are too horrified to be
of any use so he orders Kill all the mothers! Scampering toddlers running,
stumbling,and falling to the dust are butchered by Moses’ grimy army. After
the slaughter Moses turns his demented gaze, and an evil grin spreads over
his face. His gang of butchers howl when he tells them "save the little girls
for yourselves!!!!!!! Girls, 12 and under, in shock, shaking, too terrified
to
speak, are RAPED by maniacs dripping with the blood of their mothers and
family! (numbers 31:15-18) *really try to "see" this, fill in the details.
We are taught to look to these biblical heroes as models! Monsters who
actually know the sound an infant makes when it’s throat is sliced! PRAISE
THE LORD!
What about David? He was called "a man after God’s own heart".
Well let's for a moment imagine you are one of his victims. You are strapped to a table of
some type in a subterranean dungeon of horror. You will be dismembered with
old saws! F*#king SAWS! This is NOT an efficient way to kill BUT it is a
torture, Your pain will soon be overshadowed when you look in the eyes of
your family, as they are forced into a BURNING BRICK KILN!!!!!!!! And they
die screaming your name!!!!!!!!!
Imagine you are a mother holding the hand of
your daughter, trying to comfort her; you tell her not to worry that it will
be over soon, you force a smile, wanting only to spare her from the pain. You
hug her and tell her you will be there with her, you give a kiss, trying to
hide you tears and fear. The guard opens the huge stone door, a blast of air
swirls around. You hear the deafening roar of the fire you clutch onto her as
you are shoved in to the oven!!!! PRAISE THE LORD! (2samuel 12:31)
There are tons of these stories. Everything that you find sick and evil
are advocated by God in the bible.
When soldiers slaughtered the native American peoples the preachers
would quote from the lovely pslams "ask of me
and I shall give you the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost
parts of the earth for your possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of
iron and scatter their pieces like a potters vessel!" Ya see GOD said it is
ok.
Women are taught their place also "That women adorn themselves in modest
apparel, with SHAMEFACEDNESS! And sobriety; not with braided hair or gold or
pearls or costly array…Let the women learn in SILENCE with all
subjection…suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp the authority of the man
but be in SILENCE!" (1Tim 2:9-12) this in the good ol new testament. "the
Promise Keepers" have a female branch called "suitable helpers!" Yuk!
Nothing else has caused so much misery than their hateful god. Our science
was suppressed, the Greeks calculated that the world was round and measured
the circumference to within about 80 miles more than 500 years before
jesus!!!!!!!! Romans had central heat and plumbing, but this was scrapped as
vanity, and suffering was good, so it was lost. Christians burned the library
at Alexandria, more than 700,000 scrolls, the knowledge of the earth, was
burned!
Historians calculate that we were set back by 2,000 years! (Think
what it would be like if it was about to be the year 4,000 instead of 2,000!)
Women in old Europe used to be healers, they had knowledge of herbs and other
sciences, but they were burned as witches, ..ever wonder why men dominated
the medical field? Well because the women were burned for it, and over time
were taught their place. Women were not allowed to vote, they still dont have
equal pay, discrimination is rampant, and a host of other injustices.
Why is it a lesser crime to beat a wife than beat a stranger? One word; PROPERTY!
Think about it daughters are the property of their fathers, "Who gives this
woman to be wed…" It is in the lines we use in marriage, and in many other
things that we may not think about. Who does a suitor have to deal with and
"get past"- the "Father", who is the one traditionally you ask for permission
to marry his daughter? Biblically the crime of RAPE was a crime against who
ever owned the woman, either the father or husband etc. You will do more time
for stealing a TV than raping a woman!
Lets hear how the great men of Christianity view women:
"When you look upon the face of a woman, consider that you not face a human
being, but the devil himself. The voice of a woman is the hiss of a snake!"
-SAINT Anthony
"Girls begin to talk and stand on their feet sooner than boys because
weeds always grow faster than good crops." - Martin Luther, Protestant hero
"Every woman should be filled with Shame by the thought that she is a
woman"
-St. Clement of Alexandria
"And do you not know that you are an Eve? The sentence of God on this sex
of yours lives in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the
Devil’s gateway: you are the unsealer of that tree: you are the first
deserter of the divine law: you are she who persuaded him whom the devil was
not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On
account of your desert -that is, death - even the Son of God had to die." -
Tertullian
""woman is temple built on a sewer" -Boethius
"To embrace a woman is to embrace a sack of manure" - Odo of Cluny
St. Thomas Aquinas suggested god must have made a mistake: "nothing
defective should have been produced in the first establishment of things, so
woman ought not to have been produced then"
"…because being formed from a man's rib they are only imperfect animals
and ‘crooked’ whereas man belongs to a privileged sex from whose midst Christ
emerged." -Malleus Maleficarum, or "hammer of the witches" (An inquisitorial
handbook)
Women are often understood to be impediments to spirituality in a context
where God reigns strictly from heaven and demands a renunciation of physical
pleasure. As 1 Corinthians 7:1 state, "It is a good thing for a man to have
nothing to do with a woman."
Christianity taught us to be ashamed of our bodies, and of sex. Etc.
etc. A woman risks being labeled a slut or some such title if she expresses
the enjoyment of sex. Young girls are programmed well, they verbally tear in
to any girl who dares cross the line by refusing to be ashamed of her
sexuality.
Young men also are greatly effected; they may not hold their
tongue, but when discussing some sexual matter they will very often be rude
and crass, and actually quite hostile. You see the idea that sex is "evil"
still is in their minds also even if they won't consciously admit it. So when
discussing the "evil" subject they will act "evil". It is a rude disgusting
subject so they will behave rude and disgusting. The guilt they feel is
projected onto the women as they are a more convenient target. The woman they
met and had sex with is now refereed to as a slut or a lowly whore. He cant
have consensual sex and still be friendly. OH no ...the guilt of the
"improper act" must go somewhere, and it of course falls to the girl. And so we
continue our little dance of guilt and sin and hate concerning sex and it
just spirals down, because we rarely think about it. One of the many many
wonderful gifts of Christianity.
If interested I suggest you read "sacred sexuality" by A T Man and Jane
Lyle
There are a million things Christianity has done to cause the misery of
humanity. Many people see this and blame religion in general but it must be
realized that many cultures had advanced science and were continuously
getting better that were not Christian. Although some people will point
towards the Muslims in defending Christianity’s treatment of women, two
things should be noted; Muslims & Christians have the same main god, and it
is not that they are so much worse in their system BUT they follow the ideas
formed in the bible WORD for WORD. Besides pointing at another does not
excuse the wrongs of the criminal.
Christianity’s main ideas are: Accept that you are a scum deserving of
death from birth, and you are only "saved" from god’s wrath by his suicide.
You see the "loving God" was so filled with anger that he destroyed the world
with flood, and slaughtered millions, but not being satisfied with that he
came down to earth and killed himself to appease his own rage! You must
realize that suffering is a good thing. And you must renounce the "world"
meaning most everything that might bring you pleasure. You will degrade women
and beat your children (as the bible orders you to do), and you will only
value your fellow man as a potential "convert". Anyone who opposes your
hateful system is in league with your devil, etc. etc. etc. It goes on and
on.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE READ "THE DARK SIDE OF CHRISTIAN HISTORY" by Helen
Ellerbe , Morningstar books.
[The above, final comment about some book, is not from me but was part of this file that I had saved from somewhere.
--WaterDragon] - PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The Jews didn't steal anyone's land. When the Arabs invaded Israel after its declaration of independence in 1948, the Israeli leaders tried to persuade the Arabs to stay and build a state together. Arab leaders told the Arab population to leave so they wouldn't get in the way of advancing Arab forces.
Nuri al-Said, the Iraqi Prime Minister said: "We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down."
In the same conflict, 900,000 Jews were driven out of Arab countries.
Get your facts right. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@calvmari: People shouldn't be blaming the religion. They should be blaming the individuals and their overly zealous interpretation of it. Extremism and fundamentalism are bad news no matter what the religion.
- saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -18/+23@Patriotic Kiwi
Did you even read the article? I quote:
“Ahadi said she and other members of the group have been "terrorized" and have received death threats, most of them sent via e-mail.”
That could mean that they got threats like “Insallah, I will kill you!” but in reality those messages are totally anonymous and could be the efforts of some childish prankster.
As far as real Muslim organizations are concerned I, unlike you, have had some personal experience. Last year I went to a Quran Class/Prayer Group with my roommate who happened to be a good and pious Muslim. Out of curiosity I went along with him just to find out what exactly it was that Islam is. It was an hour and half of recitation and reading and afterwards we ate some food and just generally chilled. It was at this time the prayer leader(unsure what official title is) asked me if I had any inclination to join them from now on and become Muslim. I politely declined. He did not try to convert me, he did not kill me, he did not even try to bring it up again. He just gave me a look of disappointment and apologized for putting me on the spot in front of everyone.
This is real Islam, not the crazy fanatical political organizations that you seem to be referring to in you pictures. Seriously, you need to be able to differentiate between religion and politics. - AhmedF, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9This isn't 'politics'
Its the ravings of one lunatic used to 'illustrate' a billion people.
The layman term for this is 'propaganda' - saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9lukehh, It is so sad that you post a link to a VIDEO that shows how countries in the MidEast actually are, but are dugg down anyway just becuase people don't like the truth, and infact shows how wrong they are.
- Roger, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9I'm no expert on Islam either, but I can probably refute most of your "evidence".
=>"After all, the "Perfect Man" -- the Prophet himself -- ordered killings of ex-Muslims."
Well first of all you're disregarding the context in which these killings were ordered. And from what I understand, in both Christianity and Islam, exceptions are to be made in times of war.
If anything, your quote proved that Muhammad was merciful. - gundamoak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@ patriotic and suntzu
You guys pull a verse or two from the thousands in the Quran and Hadith and use it to broadly paint Islam in a negative light. The same can be done with Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, etc. Your motives, however, are too apparent. Stop being bigot retards and generalizing an entire faith from the actions of a few or a few verse plucked that, on their own with no context, support your narrow and racist opinions. - lukehh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8three scentences out of the entire Koran. way to go.
Why are you people insistant on this fight? emboldening a clash between "them" and "us". There is more to Islam than your quotes, as there is more to Christiantity than those people who bomb abortion clinics.
It's so useless to drive up hatred for "Islam" like this. What does it accomplish? How does this help America? You? Are you trying to dehumanize and classify something as evil that you plainly don't understand? how far do you think this will get you in the long term? How will this make you safe? What will the consequences be of demonizing a a group of people that 'feel' opressed? - puhiawa, on 10/12/2007, -20/+24Sharia Law. See our future under this primitive death cult.
- Roger, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods, do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."
Recognize that? Its from the Bible.
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2006/christians-killed-apostates-too/
And did you actually read the quote you posted? Muhammad actually had pity on the guy and didn't kill him. - omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8About as cute and welcome as some Christians' desire to be ruled under Biblical law.
- calvmari, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Well then, we should have a propaganda category in Digg and shove these type of things in to it ;)
- AhmedF, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Concurred
Or even better - "People with singular agendas" - ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9gee Robbie, you pretty much submit nothing but anti-muslim propaganda and anti-aclu (not that I'd defend the ACLU) articles. Are you getting paid for all your hard work or is this how you kill time between O Reilly episodes?
- nmeadata, on 10/12/2007, -10/+13Somehow it seems like defining Christianity by looking at David Karesh. There are many sects and practices, lets not forget to keep our eyes open to that fact.
Wikopedia
"Only about 20 percent of Muslims originate from Arab countries." - tomcpp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Right ... because we all know muslims always cooperate and never protect terrorists ... right ?
Oh wait ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia19.xml&sSheet=/portal/2006/02/19/ixportaltop.html
Forty per cent of the British Muslims surveyed said they backed introducing sharia in parts of Britain, while 41 per cent opposed it. Twenty per cent felt sympathy with the July 7 bombers' motives, and 75 per cent did not. One per cent felt the attacks were "right".
20 percent "felt sympathy" for the july 7 bombers. For killing innocents. You cannot have a "minority" where 20 percent of people support killing innocents. That's over a million people. - Paroparo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Very few people on digg care about what happens in a small country around the Caucasus, but a lot of people are very interested in seeing articles that support their world-views on the front page of digg.
- PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4How the hell did a post about repression of the Bahai faith get dugg down? Is anyone SERIOUSLY denying that Bahais are being persecuted in Iran? Get real! I can understand people here defending Islam - there are two sides to every conflict. Denying the unjust killing and oppression of a very vulnerable religious minority is just insane.
- davetheman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Theorically, Baha'i Faith is an offshot of Islam. The founder claimed himself as another prophet after Muhammad. That's why in Islamic countries like Iran, Baha'is are prosecuted and deemed as apostate.
http://www.us.bahai.org/ - r3volution, on 10/12/2007, -10/+13Big deal. Extremists always like to talk big. But if some nutjob actually harms or even kills one of these ex-muslims then they will simply go to jail and be forcibly penetrated in the most unholy ways, Deutschland-style.
Just like any type of nutjob who breaks the law. - PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4good stuff, waterdragon, maybe if some of these people read the bible instead of speculating about Islam, it might expand their worldview.
- cannabinemsi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6why would you take fundamentalists as an example for a whole religion, a whole culture? there are examples for extremism in every religion that ever was or ever will be. it's in it's nature, for believe has to be extreme to become religion.
maybe, if all the hate spreading ended, people would finally realize that they're not so different as they're often led to think. both sides are being played off against each other. by the same type of people. they just act in different ways, yet achieve the same. fear and hatred among the population of the "others", that come to kill us. be it the message of an islamic cleric, who damns the allied troops in their holy and sacred places, or that of the leader of "the free world", who makes us worry about all those terrorist-attacks that are about to happen, but actually never take place (and no, homeland security isn't just doing a helluva job). peace is not what they want. it is not their business. - junkalam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5congratulations to waterdragon for breaking the "longest comment on digg" record !
has some good points though...dugg - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5little green facists
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6You take anything out of context and it can be misunderstood, for example :
Mathew 10:34 : Jesus is quoted as saying: "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Just like Christians dont misunderstand that verse, I dont misunderstand those verses you mentioned. All of those are verses that were revelealed during war time at the time of the prophet. Not only did you take those out opf context, they are not a universal rule, let's say for example, praying 5 times a day.
For anyone who wants to know why killing apostates is not part of islamic law, I suggest reading this article :
http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=286 - PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -11/+13Sharia (شريعة transliteration: Sharī‘ah) is the body of Islamic law. The term means "way" or "path"; it is the legal framework within which public and some private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on Muslim principles of jurisprudence.
Source (Wikipedia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia - Bytor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I don't see what you're trying to prove by showing people saluting differently and wearing different clothes.
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