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Grass roots 'big ace' in Ron Paul's White House bid

usatoday.com — Ron Paul joked during Wednesday's Republican debate that so much money is pouring into his campaign from the Internet that he's "struggling to figure out how to spend" it all.

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  • Wulfgang, on 11/30/2007, -10/+180“I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.” -Abraham Lincoln

    Are those who somehow aren't yet aware of the Ron Paul movement or know only what the mainstream media have painted of it having that nagging feeling you get when the checkbook just won't balance? Something a little like that persistent agitation of hearing a familiar song and struggling to remember who the artist is?

    Something is clearly amiss, or at the edge of memory, but you just can't quite put your finger on it.

    There’s an underdog campaign that has set a GOP fundraising record – and all from small, individual contributors – which is also receiving the most contributions from military men and women of any presidential campaign while inspiring a true ‘rainbow coalition’ to join up with a commitment and passion undreamt in modern political history.

    But something is wrong.

    TV news keeps assuring us that it's just a fringe movement while they report with glee on a brothel owner's 'endorsement'. They go all out over some neo-nazi screwball paypaling $500 to the campaign website (who even knew who this guy was until the media broke it as a story?) all the while more or less ignoring the college campuses all over America abuzz with creative energy and ideas to further the movement.

    In fact, attacking the supporters seems to be all they have – usually it’s a candidates record or checkered past that’s put under the microscope. That it’s the supporters getting the media black eye in many cases should tell you a great deal about Ron Paul’s impeccable record over ten terms in congress. In my research I’ve only been able to confirm one ‘flip-flop’ and this was on capital punishment which he no longer supports for the unfair manner in which it is meted out.

    John Stewart quipped on the Daily Show, “You’re known as an honest man of integrity and principle….American voters don’t usually go for that.” And Bill Maher, not known for endorsing republicans, said recently that Ron Paul is “his new hero.”

    From USC to Harvard to MIT to U of M and OSU, we see a spectacular display of patriotism and democracy vibrating with a cool intensity and determination. From the planes flying over Wolverine Stadium to the planes flying over St. Petersburg Florida to the rooftops of Manhattan and now to the airship - all 200 feet of her - something very unexpected and very big is going on in America.

    And yet, inexplicably, our alphabet soup of media is curiously silent about the phenomenon when not openly mocking it.

    Why?

    We hear of Mitt's flip-flops, Giuliani's mistress’s cab fare, Huckabee's likeability and Hillary’s plausible deniability but these campaigns are a yawn for the most part when there's not fresh dirt – there is little to nothing new being offered us and we Americans clearly want change! They report with enthusiasm every spat and squabble like they're looking for a rousing chant of "Jerry, Jerry..." but on a real and genuine movement expanding exponentially we hear only that a fringe element of the internet has made some noise. "Don't look over there" they tell us, "it's just some cyberpunks, skinheads and prostitutes." They’ve even made the complaint that too many of us are voting in their polls!

    Why?

    And then I watch the CNN debate - Tancredo and Hunter are still there and stranger still, they're getting more face time than Ron Paul despite Ron Paul polling 4th in New Hampshire, and nearing double-digits in Nevada and Iowa. It gets worse when CNN spits up their selected question to Ron Paul and from the 5,000 or so video questions submitted it's an odd question about conspiracies. We find out immediately after the debate that the man given a microphone and perhaps more airtime than Ron Paul at the debate is co-chairman of a Hillary Clinton steering committee.

    Why?

    I suspect that many are beginning to realize - if only at the periphery - that there is some injustice going on and they are not getting the whole story and that, somehow, they’re being manipulated rather than informed.

    I believe very strongly that there are those who feel we’ll all be better off if they do the thinking for us.

    I have no doubt that anyone reading this will disagree.

    And so I issue a call to those who still do their own thinking: Join us and let liberty, peace and prosperity be the adjectives of our age and our legacy to those who will follow us.

    We cannot long continue plodding along more or less unchanging – tweaking a few subtleties here and there - as we continue to count the casualties on both sides in the middle-east while making new enemies faster than we kill the old ones, push near 10,000,000,000,000 in national debt while the dollar collapses, legislate away our freedoms for, ostensibly, security, and watch the last American manufacturing job disappear over the horizon.

    Who will answer the call?

    Some might simply feel too old for revolution and so take comfort in its media dismissal. I say you’re never too old for a worthy and admirable revolution! I call to those who cling to status quo government as the panacea to an uncertain world – you don’t need more government, you need more freedom! I call especially to those who identified themselves with a party at some point and stopped caring really where that party is heading - what that party has become. If you view everyone opposed to your views as either a lefty loon or a neo-con, I’m talking to you. Join us – it’s better over here!

    I believe we’re at a precipice in US history and as a nation and a people we need to take a collective intellectual walkabout and ask the questions: What would Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin and Paine think of our republic in 2007? What would they say of our stewardship of The America Experiment? What is it we love most about America? What do we as Americans and even the rest of the world admire most about the idea of America?

    And why are we not standing up for it?

    Consider this: 70% of Americans are opposed to the war in Iraq and presidential and congressional approval ratings are at historic lows and yet media darlings - and so, it follows, front-runners - Giuliani, Romney and Hillary are for expanding our middle-east military blitz and are more or less status quo party insiders. It seems fair to say that the only changes we can expect from them are positions on issues in the run-up to the election. Romney goes as far as refusing to condemn torture carried out in the name of America!

    “Domestic policy can only defeat us; foreign policy can kill us.” -John F. Kennedy

    There’s a disconnect here and it's a serious one. On an issue as profound and important as war, many people seem to prefer comforting lip service, partisanship, or worse, escalation, to a peaceful revolution and change.

    How can this be?

    “If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.” -James Madison

    If you’re for empire America and all the death, misery, isolationism and staggering resources that entails you’ll do fine with the candidates brought to you by CNN and Fox.

    But, if you believe as our founding fathers – that playing favorites with nations and entangling alliances are the road to corruption and ruin, that “commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto” and that “that government is best who governs least” – there is only one candidate:

    Ron Paul.

    Google George Washington’s Farewell Address of 1779 for a far more prosaic expression of this warning against favoring nations at the expense of others than I could ever hope to compose.

    Carl Sagan once said that the people of the world want peace and someday governments are going to have to get out of their way and let them have it.

    Sounds like something Ron Paul would say.
    • SmokeyBBQ, on 11/30/2007, -4/+51Wow!!! Good stuff - One of the most thought out, passionate, and truthful reasoning for supporting Dr. Paul.
      Thank you for that. I'm gonna sleep well tonight knowing that there is still great hope for this country of ours.
      I hope this story makes it to the front page just so more people can read your post.

      RP '08
    • JohnFive, on 11/30/2007, -4/+9http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EywYDhPeY8
    • RandoTheKing, on 11/30/2007, -4/+33Absolutely beautiful. Took the words out of everyone's mouth.
    • Xinareiaz, on 11/30/2007, -2/+24Wow, that was great, you should be a public speaker for Ron Paul!
    • cloudyprison, on 11/30/2007, -2/+28Comment needs its own article.
      • milomilomilo, on 11/30/2007, -0/+14@wulfgang
        I think this is the first time I have ever read a digg comment that was moving!
        I'd digg you 100 times if I could.

        p.s: reply system broken.
      • cusoman, on 11/30/2007, -0/+12Agreed. And that's a first.
    • SiNN4R, on 11/30/2007, -0/+14War only creates more war. We need to come home and inspire peace.
    • KampfGherkin, on 11/30/2007, -1/+18This is by far one of the best comments I've ever read on Digg. Bravo! Bravo!
    • CannedMango, on 11/30/2007, -2/+9You should publish that so more people can read it.

      What's insane to me is that reasoned thinking like this is never given the attention it deserves, while demagogous anecdotes like "The troops told me... let us win" get wild applause when there isn't a shred of fact or truth behind it. We are indeed living in the age of media control.
    • AnarkeIncarnate, on 11/30/2007, -1/+8If I could digg you up more, I would. Welcome to my friend's list.
    • libertarian2008, on 11/30/2007, -1/+7What? Just 100 diggs? You should have got 1000 diggs by now.

      You said what all Ron Paul supporters would have said and a little more. Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Identity4, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7[Standing Ovation] Well done sir....
    • johnjen5321, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6OUTSTANDING! Bravo, sir!
    • Scheissen, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1George Washington's Farewell Address in 1779?
    • 44caliber, on 12/01/2007, -0/+0Sagan was awesome!! great post.
  • SchuylerTowne, on 11/30/2007, -7/+33Hey guys, everyone who's digging this? Click on the "recommend" link above the article, you don't have to be a USA Today member or anything to do it and it'll help boost it's visibility.
  • seinfeldking, on 11/30/2007, -47/+4I'd rather have Bush elected in for a 3rd term than that moron called Ron Paul.
    • pedrovoltaire, on 11/30/2007, -2/+19not funny again...
    • dinsy, on 11/30/2007, -2/+6You must be in prison already.
    • Erox1234, on 11/30/2007, -2/+4I just blocked you.
    • scrimaxinc, on 11/30/2007, -2/+10Sooo....I checked out your profile and I'm a little confused. You're a Ron Paul troll from Spain? Are you bored or something?
    • AnarkeIncarnate, on 11/30/2007, -1/+3Ahh, I see the stupid have landed.
    • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1I wish so very much that you could have Bush again too you ***** cretin. That would be the best punishment morons like you could get. Unfortunately unlike you, I am concerned with the rest of the world's safety and health, so will have to forego that wish.

      Of course Bush might yet declare himself decider for life, he has altered the "Laws" (sic) to allow it. You might get your wish bozo. :)
  • restorefreedom, on 11/30/2007, -5/+30Despite the main stream media's concerted and deliberate attempt to suppress the grassroots movement, the truth that Ron Paul has a HUGE following is continually spreading. Please help to spread the message of TRUTH, PEACE & FREEDOM while we still have a chance to save our country! GOD BLESS RON PAUL AND HIS SUPPORTERS!
    • WRXFiles, on 11/30/2007, -1/+2The imaginary upstairs friend can't do anything to help in this matter, and believing it will can hurt Ron Paul's real chances to win. Use your energy to VOLUNTEER, DONATE, and PARTICIPATE. REGISTER and VOTE. Those are the actions that can help. If you've already done those, do them again. And if you still have effort left to pray, you could, but it would be better to go to the start of the list and do useful things again.
  • volksgardencom, on 11/30/2007, -5/+8go baby go
  • PeppermintPig, on 11/30/2007, -6/+34Congrats all of you supporters! Ron Paul has surpassed 10 Mil!
  • abran1984, on 11/30/2007, -22/+1What's Ron Paul got to say about John Murtha's comments that the surge is working?

    http://digg.com/politics/John_Murtha_surge_is_work ...
    • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1What does Ron Paul say about the price of eggs in China? Could you not have found anything more relevant just now?
  • buildbyflying, on 11/30/2007, -3/+16@abran: first, whether the surge works or not is contrary to Paul's message. The "surge" is an effort to implement long-term military presence. When does this "surge" end? To "surge" for years? That's contrary to the very definition of the word.

  • funkju, on 11/30/2007, -33/+4Buried for PaulSpam
  • katie212, on 11/30/2007, -3/+18VIVA LA REVOLUTION! My heroes are our Military men and women, Ron Paul and his army of supporters!
  • Truzseeker, on 11/30/2007, -4/+15Sends a serious message including those that are neocons, charlatans, or shills.
  • orangester, on 11/30/2007, -11/+12Ron Paul is our only hope.
    • AnarkeIncarnate, on 11/30/2007, -4/+3Help me Ron Paul Kenobi.......you're my only hope :)
  • torxx, on 11/30/2007, -26/+5how does this crap keep getting on the first page.
    • WRXFiles, on 11/30/2007, -2/+13D'uh - because people vote for it.
    • monkeybacon, on 11/30/2007, -3/+9Please provide a logical and fact based argument against Ron Paul's position on the issues, or add anything of value to the discussion.
      • RollFizzlebeef, on 11/30/2007, -11/+2People can decide not vote for Paul if they don't like the way he parts his hair, you arrogant prick.
        It just so happens that most Republicans won't vote for him because he's against the war and is generally a fringe nutjob.
    • toasty168, on 11/30/2007, -2/+8it gets to the front page because there are actually intelligent people out there who like to think for themselves and run their lives the way they want to. something ron paul seems to advocate.
    • dictum, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6Furious stick waving.
    • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1Torxx

      IN a word son, DEMOCRACY.

      Its a bummer when you are on the losing end isn't it dopey?
  • evilcaptain, on 11/30/2007, -5/+2He could do worse than sponsor a showing of the John Pilger documentary "the War on Democracy"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1zZNbqi53o -trailer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to6uNUTf8g4
  • talktob, on 11/30/2007, -19/+4I think most people supporting RP don't understand what a Libertarian is.
    • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/30/2007, -12/+3Most of his supporters are anarchists with low expectations.
    • MrESaulved, on 11/30/2007, -2/+12I think most people who are against Ron Paul's message for America, the restoration of the Rule of Law, are weasels who would say anything to keep their fragile grip on what they think they have. The US dollar's value against other currency has dropped 33% in five years. How's your retirement fund looking these days?
      • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/30/2007, -2/+1Well, considering the market is still up for the year and I am not planning on retiring to Europe, my retirement fund is looking pretty good.
    • bumb1ebee, on 11/30/2007, -2/+4Ron Paul is running for a federal position, not a local or state position. Libertarians can (and most of them do) support Ron Paul and continue to advocate smaller government at the state level. Reducing the size of the government all around will only work once they get the behemoth of a federal government off of their backs.
    • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -0/+2I don't think it really matters what a libertarian is, since Ron Paul is not running as one.

      However statistically you would be shown to be completely wrong.

      Ron PAUL supporters are self evidently the most informed, and thoughtful people on the internet. The fact that we also comprise the majority, which is also self evident everywhere you go which is not censored to the max; is hardly surprising if you still have a little faith in humanity. Thanks to cretins and sheeple minded koolaid drinkers who also use the net, we have to put up with lame brained comments like you empty headed anti Paulites come up with.

      Overall though you just show how low some can go and still wish to be. It must irk you that even with a biased DIGG, even with the chance to be little arseholes and antisocial apes you still cannot stop the overwhelming support for Ron Paul. You stand like silly children trying to stop the waves on the shore. What you are of course trying to stop is democracy, freedom and truth.

      Incredibly it is that simple. You are defending a corrupt system which you know in your own hearts is corrupt to the core. You do it out of genuine fear of facing reality and your own positions in it all.
  • Xinareiaz, on 11/30/2007, -4/+20$10,000,000! Did you see how fast it was going up this morning? It was around $1000 a minute! Anyone who hasn't already donated go and do it! Even if you can only justify giving 5 or 10 dollars, everything helps!
  • Heracles, on 11/30/2007, -22/+6Ah... yet another post by the Ron Paul bots. Buried.
    • RonBurgundy76, on 11/30/2007, -1/+2Ah... yet another post by a blind sheep. Buried
  • frostbyt, on 11/30/2007, -22/+4Ron Paul is a joke and so is anyone who votes for him.
    • UomodiRispetto, on 11/30/2007, -1/+2You don't get laid very often do you?
      • RonBurgundy76, on 12/11/2007, -0/+1Several times per week, usually... I'm a little oncerned that you care how often I get laid, however... need a hug?
    • RonBurgundy76, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2frostbyt is a joke and so is anyone who votes for him.
      Seriously, guys... can we not get at least a LITTLE bit more creative and constructive with our responses? Explain why you think he is a joke or go back into your grass-munching sheepy obscurity, please.
  • n8o8, on 11/30/2007, -4/+17We broke 10 Million, beat Thompson for the third quarter and we havent even seen the DEC 16th Tea Party Money Bomb yet!!!
  • RonPaulSpammer, on 11/30/2007, -20/+3Repent now while you still have time! You are either with Ron Paul or you are against him, there is NO middle ground. You either love freedom or you hate it. You are either a sheep or an intelligent person. If you do not vote for Ron, then this country will descend into complete chaos. I hope you enjoy your freedoms, because if Ron isn't elected then you won't have any.

    I guarantee that Ron will win in 2008 and if he doesn't then, obviously, the voting machines were rigged or some other grand conspiracy theory.
  • RollFizzlebeef, on 11/30/2007, -18/+6Paulspam, buried.
  • rafaelcapanema, on 11/30/2007, -2/+1http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=pt-BR&q=%22ron+ ...

    http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=pt-BR&q=%22ron+ ...

    Go figure
  • momo98, on 11/30/2007, -1/+5I'm not going to vote against somebody for their stance on one issue, however I really wish RP would reconsider his stance on the Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy. He was right in the first Republican debate that groups of people shouldn't be given special rights, we should all have the same rights. So let gay/lesbian service members serve openly!
    • amoirae, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2I agree. Heterosexuals have too many special rights and then claim that equality gives special rights to gays.
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/30/2007, -14/+2Wait, he has a $10,000,000 budget and he doesn't know what to do? If he can't even figure out a multi-million dollar campaign budget how do you expect him to handle a multi-BILLION dollar federal budget. The man is lost.
    • roho76, on 11/30/2007, -1/+11That was a figure of speech when he said that.
      Don't be a douche.
    • cloudcity, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7"how do you expect him to handle a multi-BILLION dollar federal budget."

      Here's a thought: Don't "handle" it at all!

      Beyond our national defense, highway maintenance, and a reasonable amount of other services, there is NO reason for a federal budget. Let the people KEEP their money to improve the communities in which they live, instead of running that tax "revenue" through the leeching filter that is D.C.
    • LuaPron, on 11/30/2007, -0/+5Easy, return as much as possible to the people.

      There is a big difference between the budget of a political campaign and the budget of the government. Ron Paul actually knows the difference. Most other politicians do not - they use at least some of the federal budget to pander to voters.
    • AnarkeIncarnate, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2OH NOES. The man is careful about spending money and keeping the budget tight. We should instead have somebody who mails everybody stickers and buttons and spends money on useless commercials over and over again about how "Fred Thompson once threatened to black flag Tom Cruise's racecar ...."
  • dime, on 11/30/2007, -4/+5As a libertarian, I find Paul's stance on abortion highly disappointing.

    I know the newly converted (or along-for-the-ride'ers) like to rally behind his opinion that it's s states rights issue because it makes him seem consistent. But it doesn't. All rights source from the right of property - and that begins with the most fundamental property right of all: ownership of your own body. The state government has no more or less ownership of a woman's body than the federal government does, and to suggest otherwise shows an inconsistency in philosophy.

    His opinions on church and state separation are disturbing too. But at least his getting people thinking outside the two party corporatocracy box.
    • Ithaxa, on 11/30/2007, -4/+3right of property? what about your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? ( unborn babies get those rights too, it can be debated philosphicaly?) I do know Ron Paul has pointed out that in his line of practice as an OBGYN that if he did medical malpractice and killed the unborn child, he would be charged with murdering that unborn baby. Cant have it both ways?
      • dime, on 11/30/2007, -1/+2"what about your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?"

        Life and liberty derive from the right of property. If you own your body, you have the right to engage in the protection of that property (ie live). If you own your body, you have the right to move freely and engage in associations and contracts (ie liberty).

        "(unborn babies get those rights too, it can be debated philosphicaly?)"

        By an extension of logic, unborn babies do not have rights the same way you or I have rights. They do not own their bodies, as their survival is 100% contingent on the mother. Even if you make the argument that they *do* own their bodies, they *do not* own their mother's womb. Since the mother herself is owner of her body (and womb), by definition she has full rights to what stays and what goes.
    • Spectre74, on 11/30/2007, -2/+0shows consistency in decreasing federal power enabling u to at least have 50 choices of where and under what conditions u can either kill or create a part of ur body......
      • Spectre74, on 11/30/2007, -1/+0maybe shouldve said remove or grow? leave as a guest or evict? not sure how to not offend......hmmmmm......eleminate that and just say under what conditions u can choose what u want to do maybe....
  • chrisfry, on 11/30/2007, -5/+0If he is serious about ending the war and doesn't get the Republican nomination, he definitely should run as a 3rd party candidate. If nothing else, he can help block a war mongering Republican from the White House.
  • liltekgurl, on 11/30/2007, -3/+8I still crack up @ the term 'long shot' when he was the only one to have a successful money bomb day...LOL!
  • freyaXgefn, on 11/30/2007, -3/+5I think that Lyman is an example of where MOST Ron Paul supporters are coming from. We are tired of big government, have grown up in a world that limits competition, and strangles free will. How can one grow up in a world that we are told will be destroyed by war, disease, natural disasters, "global warming" and pollution before we grow old and not become disillusioned with the dogmatic, patriarchal sham that we call a government?

    Now is time to make a stand and change the world for the better. We don't have to live under the thumb of oppression. We are born free, die free and will forever celebrate our freedoms in the face of corruption and abuse of power.

    They can't stop this movement; the more they try the stronger we become.

    from the article: "Lyman, 37, has never voted, much less donated to a politician before this year. He said he was drawn to Paul because of the congressman's anti-war stance. Paul is the only GOP candidate calling for an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq."
  • airwalkery2k, on 11/30/2007, -3/+1They chose a rather funny picture of Ron Paul. It almost seems like the stereotypical image of Richard Nixon saying "I am not a crook." Intentional?
  • brandon215, on 11/30/2007, -6/+4I hope all of this constant shoving Ron Paul propaganda down everyone's throats results in people voting against him. How can anyone even listen to his stance on issues with this constant blogspam and insane banter.
    • UomodiRispetto, on 11/30/2007, -3/+3You can still listen to his stance on issues, text is silent.
      • jaythree9, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2wouldn't that be reading, not listening?
  • ScottWC, on 11/30/2007, -3/+3Wasn't grassroots internet support Howard Dean's big ace too?
    • bffoley, on 11/30/2007, -3/+1Haha, exactly. The Inevitable Howard Dean.

      At least he got the DNC chairmanship out of it.
    • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -1/+1There are big aces and BIG ACES.

      Howard Dean's internet support made him what little he was. BUT Paul's has already catapulted him far beyond the internet.

      He has won almost every straw poll and raised the most genuine support financially. Plus the fund raising is barely begun for the Ron Paul camp, mark my words.
  • sexydarin, on 11/30/2007, -4/+3Money is pouring in from microsoft and google. Two far left companies. Paul is a leftist libertarian, not a conservative.
    • jaythree9, on 11/30/2007, -0/+5libertarian to be sure, but leftist? not those attitudes on abortion and church and state. those are squarely conservative views.
  • mattsw84, on 11/30/2007, -5/+2When is it ballgame for you guys February? You guys aren't going to be babbling about this like some crazy homeless person until your 50 are you. I can see it know Ron Paul the write in candidate every year till he dies and then you will start babbling about how the government had him assassinated.
    • runderwo, on 11/30/2007, -1/+5I plan to be babbling about freedom and the Constitution until I'm 50, and thereafter as well.

      I support Ron Paul because when I'm 50 and babbling about freedom and the Constitution, I want them to still be current events.

      I'm sorry that you're so cynical, but I hope you realize that this campaign is not about the candidate -- except inasmuch as he is the most flawless messenger for the message of liberty that we have.
  • JoeVet, on 11/30/2007, -8/+1With all that money pouring in he is still not near any of the other candidates. He would give the states the right to establish a religion. He would allow states the right to deny choice. He would not use federal assets to help states in need after a catastrophic event such a Katrina. He would isolate the United States from the rest of the international community. He would pay for the government by taxing the lowest earner at the highest rate with a scheme called "Fair Tax". Read and learn about Ron Paul and then vote no!
    • DrMonkeyLove, on 11/30/2007, -1/+4I guess John McCain isn't the only one who doesn't know the difference between and isolationist and a non-interventionist. Please stop out and out lying.
    • johnjen5321, on 11/30/2007, -1/+4Again, somebody who spouts off incorrect "facts" as if they worked for Fox News. Please go do some ACTUAL research before you spread further untruths in a public form. Ron Paul has never EVER said he would give states "rights" to establish a religion. That is ludicrous. He would allow states to deny choice (I assume you mean abortion), cuz guess what? The Federal government has NO AUTHORITY in the matter. So you think the Federal gov't did such a bang-up job with Katrina? Nice. Isolate the United States from the rest of the international community? In almost every speech he gives he says exactly the opposite! He wants to be friends (trade, travel, talk) with ALL nations. He simply doesn't want to meddle in THEIR internal affairs like we have done for TOO LONG. And finally, the most preposterous thing you claim against him is the "scheme" called the Fair Tax. Excuse me? You must be thinking of Huckabee. Ron Paul wants a flat tax--flat as in _zero_. Nothing. Nada. "Oh but won't the federal gov't shutdown without tax income?" No. In fact, it would not. None of your income tax dollars go to anything but paying interest payments on debt to other nations. It does not help build roads, build bridges, education. Period. The income tax is an illegal unapportioned tax that turns low-wage earning people into serfs. Serfs of the government.

      So, regardless of your views in income tax, it is clear that you like many other people THINK you know what Ron Paul is all about, but it is clear you don't. Until you do, please stop spreading lies, falsehoods, and half-truths. That's CNN's and Fox's job.
    • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1Just because the MSM has hidden the truth from your poor old eyes, Joe Vet let me inform you. Ron Paul has won almost every Poll, by telephone and internet after each debate. Very convincingly I might add. He has won more than twenty Straw Polls including all the major ones and has placed in the top four of the rest. He has raised record sums of financial support, and you have seen nothing on that score yet. The Tea Party day will blow everyone out of the water I predict. Ron Paul has by far the most support from the military also, both at home and abroad.

      Now then sunshine, how does that much success manage to get past your attention, unless the only input you have is the mainstream media? It always amazes me how many people are on the net, yet obviously have not yet discovered how to get the real news ad still know nothing except the same koolaid which gets served up on the TV news and the pages of the NYTs.
  • 01000010, on 11/30/2007, -2/+4ANTI-BIG-GOVERNMENT is NOT "ANTI-GOVERNMENT". I despise the way USA Today spins his message.
  • havemysay, on 11/30/2007, -2/+3I am not an American but wish I was if only to vote for Ron. This man for so many reasons needs to be president.
  • Laharnaman, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1One useful thing to come out of watching CNN, Fox etc is that it makes one realize just how much media distortion there is. They are demonstrating their manipulations tactics for us in public. We can all learn from that in the future.
  • Rabbit63, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1Ron PAUL supporters are self evidently the most informed, and thoughtful people on the internet. The fact that we also comprise the majority, which is also self evident everywhere you go which is not censored to the max; is hardly surprising if you still have a little faith in humanity. Thanks to cretins and sheeple minded koolaid drinkers who also use the net, we have to put up with lame brained comments like you empty headed anti Paulites come up with.

    Overall though you just show how low some can go and still wish to be. It must irk you that even with a biased DIGG, even with the chance to be little arseholes and antisocial apes you still cannot stop the overwhelming support for Ron Paul. You stand like silly children trying to stop the waves on the shore. What you are of course trying to stop is democracy, freedom and truth.

    Incredibly it is that simple. You are defending a corrupt system which you know in your own hearts is corrupt to the core. You do it out of genuine fear of facing reality and your own positions in it all.
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