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- hawkeye17, on 10/12/2007, -8/+62Bush knows that if we withdraw before 2008, his legacy will be that of a failed President(it already is no matter what happens now). In an effort to save his legacy, he is willing to keep those Troops in Iraq no matter how bad it gets there. He'll leave the mess to whoever wins in 2008 then claim that that President screwed up in Iraq. Gore is right in pointing out that Iraq is a failure of epic proportions and that Bush cares more about his own situation than about doing what's right for America.
- Superman101, on 10/12/2007, -20/+69Nonsense! It is an interesting message. Most people opposed to Iraqi blame Bush and attack Bush (and rightfully so btw).
Besides, everyone thinks GWB has an ego the size of Texas, so it actually is a good message - Norweed, on 10/12/2007, -14/+57He never said he invented the internet you *****. though he was instrumental in helping getting funding for it. Are people born stupid or is it a learned trait??
- xrisnothing, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Me to Bush: You will be blamed for all of this, so just accept it.
- DavidYeah, on 10/12/2007, -37/+62New rule: People who mock Al Gore's senatorial efforts to appropriate funding to create the research institution known as the Internet are to have their Internet licenses revoked. There's plenty of local BBS's and proprietary networks like America Online's non-internet services for you to use if you hate the internet so much.
Or do you not hate the internet, you just hate the people who wanted to create it? - pgoetz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24OMG, you need to get out more, Grey-chode.
Why was the war in Iraq a mistake?
1. almost 30,000 dead or injured American GI's
2. 600,000 dead Iraqis and counting
3. cost to US taxpayers: 500 billion to 1.5 trillion dollars
4. loss of respect for the US worldwide
5. US army which claims it's currently incapable of fighting elsewhere
6. dramatic strengthening of and new base of operations for Al Qaeda
7. complete hatred of the US and Americans throughout the Islamic world
8. US now seen as country willing to engage in state sponsored torture
9. the policy of preemptively attacking sovereign nations means countries like Iran, N. Korea, and even Venezuela have dramatically increased military spending in order to prepare for such an eventuality
10. US influence dramatically decreased worldwide
Admittedly, some of these are overlapping, and there are many other reasons I didn't mention, but presumably this should be enough to shut you up? - deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Let the truth be heard. There is no one with a greater ego than George W. Bush. Video after video of him putting down reporters and colleagues. Yet again, if it wasn't for his daddy, he'd be pushing shopping carts at the local Texan Wal-Mart.
Before, all we heard was "Stay the Course" then that changed.
Then it was, "I'm the Decider" and Rummy resigns.
And now it's "There's no civil war in Iraq". Yet Iraqis are killing each other by the hundreds every week.
Enough with the ***** already. Finally someone with balls to tell the president and the public that Georgie needs to grow up and face facts.
Al Gore should become president in 2008!
http://www.algorepresident.com - dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Because we went to Iraq to fight terrorism, which was triggered by 9/11, yet GW said 9/11 was NOT the cause of the War in Iraq, see it yet?
If we wanted to fight terrorism we would by in Afghanistan mainly right now, our troops in Iraq is serving no purpose, the only thing I see is the enemy being emboldened, more extremists are created because of it. - thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -13/+26Bush: "Yeah well...that guy lost in the 2000 election, and he lost to me. So, act-ch-ually, he is the one who's fault Iraq and their terror is. Hehehehe.
- jcrewyayo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20 al gore's finally stepping up to the plate
- washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18um, do you read the news? have you noticed the little civil war going on there?
Regardless of what you think of the virtues of spreading democracy or how this war begin, it shouldn't take a lot of convincing to see that this war has not been handled well. There were so many mistakes involved that now we're in an unwinnable situation. Some sample mistakes:
-disbanding the Iraqi Army
-too intense debaathification
-choosing people to reconstruct Iraq based on partisan ideals rather than expertise
-going in with too few troops. generals who recommended more, such as Shinseki, were booted out of the Pentagon
-declaring mission accomplished
-relying on intelligence from Chalabi
-cutting off diplomatic ties with Syria and Iran - AdeleB300, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15I think this guy is right in saying that it isn't about GWB. I think that, yes perhaps he did make a mistake and people do blame him but he's the one publicizing the fact that he was wrong, if he just accepted the fact then he wouldn't be as badly criticized.
- nfulton, on 10/12/2007, -11/+21Gore has the right message . . . Bush has to realize that he too was misled into war, and that the path to hell is paved with his good intentions. Bush's advisors chose a radical course with slipshod execution and justified it to him on a pack of lies they manufactured.
I hope Gore gets through . . . because Bush is in a position to make even bigger mistakes in the months to come. - jpeisen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@Plato
perhaps you should RTFA:
"Former president Bill Clinton said he agreed with President Bush's decision to confront Iraq about its potential weapons programs, but thought the administration erred in starting a war in 2003 rather than allowing United Nations weapons inspectors longer to carry out their work."
So Clinton agreed that Iraq should be confronted, not that it should have been invaded... - firekrakcer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Uh your not serious are you?
Weapons of mass destruction? Those things we invaded for that do not exsist and several inspectors were saying before we invaded that they don't exsist? There are a lot of other reasons, I will let someone else have at it. - neoform, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12read your own article and realize Clinton didn't say "I support this invasion of iraq".
- atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18"Conservative comedy...don't quit your day job."
People who label other people: liberals, conservatives, etc... lack brain. It's a ***** joke, it's not a "conservative joke". If you don't laugh, shut up. - raypayola, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I don't know. Could be because it's creating more terrorism, giving radical Muslims more of a cause to hate the US, diverting resources from real threats like North Korea and Afghanistan, losing $1 billion+ a week while giving war profiteers like Haliburton fat government contracts, the thousands of American lives and the hundred of thousands of "liberated" Iraqis lost. Maybe.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10good point, whoever gets stuck with it after Bush will be destroyed politically just as thoroughly as bush was because of how bad the situation over there is and there is no one perfect solution that will make everyone happy.
- pgoetz, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19And my point is that unless you're prepared to take yourself and your 200,000 closest right wings friends over to Iraq to try and straighten the mess that YOU created out, you might want to consider sitting down and shutting up and letting adults take over from here on in.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Volatile:
>1969 when ARPANET
ARPANET isn't the Internet. The funding for the modern, TCP/ip Internet came from Gore. He championed the damn thing. The word for "tv" was around before tv's even existed.
Tube:
>You have a super retarded definition for invention.
Gore never used the word "invented." That was just more lies from the Republican party. - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Just all makes me wonder what would have happened if the Supreme Court had not decreed our new Dictator in 2000 and the man who really won would have been President.
Oh well. Really, really big ***** happens I guess. - dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12considering you're definition comes from FOX news, I doubt you know what fair and balanced means.
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Greyhaven, I'm sure someone will come along shortly to elaborate on why the war was a mistake...
But if you don't have any idea yet as to why people are calling the war a mistake, you either listen to Papa Bear way too often, or you are so ignorant you won't even recognize the other side of the war argument, because those opinions have been in the media for years.
Unfortunately you, like many many other Americans, have waited until now to open up your ears. You didn't listen before because you thought Bush was a great leader or because your favorite political pundits seemed so tough and righteous... but since the election you've finally started to ask some important questions.
It's people like you who make it so hard to get the right thing done sooner than later...
edit: wow.. and i thought i would be the first reply... - geoffp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Remember, a democrat (Kennedy) began the vietnam war and a republican (Nixon) ended it. Who got the bad rap?"
Nixon. For Watergate. What was your point again? - LandPirate, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I always find it amazing how die hard republicans never actually acknowledge what is being said, and only pick up of the minor details within a statement..
Even if he said anything about being involved with the creation of the Internet, this does not discredit the intelligent stuff he is saying.. is it that you guys are so used to listening to a retard, who barely can speak proper English! that when someone says something of a higher intellect that yo guys get stuck on the stupid things. I'm not even American, wake up, the rest of the world is laughing at you and your government. Laughing but also fearful of what may come of it.
Blind Support is idiotic. - washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10that's pretty funny figuring that the Iraq Study Group Report features ideas that Democrats have been offering for a while now. For example, my boy Sen. Jim Webb has consistently called for a diplomatic approach with Syria and Iran included at the table.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6So Eisenhower sends the first "advisors" to Vietnam, but Kennedy is the one who "started" it?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Al only said what we're all thinking. Problem is Bush doesn't listen to anyone...that's his #2 failing. #1 is having never delivered Osama's head on a platter.
- LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Actually the Pope's hat is called a mitre. The word pontiff is typically used to refer to the Pope himself.
- ninesquaredis81, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@98formula: "Ok, so opening with a joke wasn't the best idea"
it's not that opening with a joke wasn't the best idea. it was opening with a tired, oft repeated, inaccurate, unfunny joke that wasn't the best idea. - monkeychewtoy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9@VolatileWhimsey
When he says he took initiative in creating the Internet, he means he spearheaded the initiative to provide funding to make the Arpanet publicly available. Internet =/= Arpanet. Arpanet was exclusively used by ARPA (now DARPA.) The Internet is public. Thus, the Internet was created (from the Arpanet) thanks to funding allocated by Al Gore's initiative. - Krakn3Dfx, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15"Finally? Did you see him lately? I wouldn't think he stays very far from plates...."
Fat jokes, that goes right in hand with "Gore inventing the Internet" jokes.
Conservative comedy...don't quit your day job. - shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I love seeing pot-leaf avatars belonging to rightwingers. wake up and smell the coffee dude.
- washingtonydc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Gore 08!
- FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"You like to think that your esteemed/failed president somehow had all the answers and that us in Iraq is better than sliced bread. "
I didn't vote for Bush and I'm not a fan of his.
I think he has done a terrible job of
a) Providing a definition of 'success'
b) Providing a roadmap on how to get to that goal
c) being forthright about when things go wrong in the short-term
However it's also clear that the democratic politicians are willing to throw America under the bus for their own political advantage.
Right now we're in the fifth round of a twelve round match. We handily won the first two rounds and have been taking some serioues damage the last two. But it's a long way from being over, and we could still win, but not if our own corrner has given up - DavidYeah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6tubejay:
I really don't care about some silly statement Gore made during the 2000 campaign (which didn't involve the word 'invent' anyway, but thanks for rehashing yet again another GOP talking point).
And yes, you did have a part in the creation of the internet, just like every other tax paying American did. But did you spearhead efforts in the Senate to appropriate funding for it? I mean, if you were calling Senator Al Gore every day, telling him about this dream you had about how we should be able to link millions of PCs together, then I guess you could claim some credit as well.
Also, I'm taking initiative in the creation of the notion that you're an asshat. I'm not claiming that I'm creating the word asshat. I'm simply spearheading what I feel is a powerful idea; the notion that you in fact are an asshat, and I hope many others here will feel the same way.
Asshat. - LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8@98formula: The information about the war that is publicly available through traditional media outlets is enough information for anyone to realize what a disaster the war is. You don't need to be privy to daily briefings at the White House to make that conclusion.
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5They all are.. :/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4ok cool, thanks for that Onion. I couldn't recall the word at the top of my head :)
- shelle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Various reasons given for going to war in Iraq:
-WMD
-Al Qaida/9-11 (via toppling Saddam)
-"spreading democracy in the Middle East" by establishing a stable, democratic nation
All moving targets, none of which have yet been hit, and all based on false premises.
How bout you tell me how going to war was NOT a mistake? - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Pulling out right now would be horrible for those people..
Didn't they record that about a million ppl were killed when we pulled out of Vietnam? - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Hmmm, the internet was around before funding was even considered for it.. -.-
he might have supported it, but he did not discover it nor did he create it..
http://www.walthowe.com/navnet/history.html
"Did Al Gore invent the Internet?
According to a CNN transcript of an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Al Gore said,"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Al Gore was not yet in Congress in 1969 when ARPANET started or in 1974 when the term Internet first came into use. Gore was elected to Congress in 1976. In fairness, Bob Kahn and Vint Cerf acknowledge in a paper titled Al Gore and the Internet that Gore has probably done more than any other elected official to support the growth and development of the Internet from the 1970's to the present . " - itoremymind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32 million at least in Cambodia.
- rtini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"the real tragedy are the tens of thousands of moms and dads and babies getting incinerated or cut down or maimed because they woke up Iraqi."
If you include the secondary deaths caused by our occupation of Iraq, such as orthaned children, starvation do to food supplies being destroyed, disease and infection from destroyed medical facilities and killed doctors and nurses, joblessness, crime and so on, the death toll for Iraqi civilians is in the hundreds of thousands. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9
Bush also said he was looking for ways to harm Americans... I guess we should take ever fauz pah out of his mouth as what he truly believes.
"Our enemies...never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." President Bush
Seriously...it is totally nuts that yous guys harp on what a guy says that might be misinterepted when you support a man who was born with his foot in his mouth. - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@vandread -- I don't think that's true. If Kerry had won in 2004, then he would've definitely been blamed for not getting an untenable situation under control by 2008. In many ways, although I oppose pretty much everything Bush has done in office, I think his re-election will have a positive effect on the national memory of Iraq. He was given four more years to clean up his own mess, and he's failed beyond every liberal's wildest expectations. Iraq will not be remembered as a bipartisan mistake, with fingers pointed both ways; it will be remembered as a Republican mistake, which will have the long-term effect of moderating the Republican party.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Volatile:
>Look, Bush by no means is a perfect president.. And I'll even go as far as to say he isn't the sharpest tack in the bunch. But neither are the majority of the cattle that posts on digg.com or even lives in this country.
And they shouldn't be president either. You're really being nice to Bush by not describing him as a walking, talking ***** of a catastrophe. - xGORDOx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5The Government was using the "internet" during the Vietnam War.
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2forget what i typed, it's the kettle calling the pot black.
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