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- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+99You are woefully misinformed. Google Earth had the most update imagery of Katrina during the crisis. They even won awards for their almost-real-time coverage.
The change you're referring to happened last September, during a routine general update, where some of the post-flood overlays were 'washed away' -- and no one complained until this month. They've now re-updated the maps to the best available, due to popular demand.
But thanks for playing. - MattyLite, on 10/12/2007, -5/+84Are you seriously trying to compare Darfur's genocide to a ***** hurricane in the New Orleans? You ***** idiot.
- Cynderella, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38While we all must keep the people affected by Katrina (and all disasters for that matter) in our thoughts and do what we can to help the people of New Orleans (and all affected areas) rebuild, there is not much else we can do to stop death caused by Katrina. It came and went, and now those people need our help cleaning up. Those suffering in Darfur need our help to SURVIVE. A genocide is different than a natural disaster because a genocide is directly caused by humans and can be more easily controlled and stopped -- although some would argue that the severity of Katrina was a result of global warming, man-made or otherwise, and that the government seriously ***** up in dealing with it.
While we do need to support our own and help them through these tough times of putting their lives back together, we can't just sit back and watch countless people get slaughtered, even if they are on another continent.
Sorry for the mini-rant; I'm in a bit of a bitchy mood today. - MewTwo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33erica... shut the ***** up
- anj747, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33ericab007... shut the ***** up
- ksool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26@dmbandme
Seeing 2-500,000 made me check Wikipedia to see where that was relative to the Holocaust, thinking that even 100,000 deaths is absurdly high and there was no way the Holocaust could be much higher. Between 9 and 11 million...
How come every time I take my head out from under this rock I become a little bit more ashamed to be human?
That said, I find it even more disturbing that I only ever found out about the magnitude of the situation in Darfur was through internet news.
I guess it doesn't really stack up against the results of Anna Nicole Smith's baby's paternity test. :( - sprx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25[paraphrase] Google is bad because it will post atrocities in Darfur before in New Orleans [/paraphrase]
I went down to New Orleans last spring break to volunteer, I saw the awfulness, and at least 1,836 people lost their lives, and hundreds of thousands lives are significantly different. Even my life was changed after seeing the damage.
In Darfur, an estimated 200,000 - 400,000 have died and 2.5 million displaced. I hope those people speaking against racism will agree with me when I say that the people over in Sudan are just as human as Americans. Why should Google look at Darfur before NOLA? (New Orleans LA) Maybe because the crisis is WORSE over there. - dmbandme, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24This is AWESOME. Those who don't know about what is going on in Darfur should check this out. Somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 people are already dead from this government sponsored genocide and 2.5 million lives hang in the balance. The UN has called this the "the world's worst humanitarian crisis". How very appropriate to be highlighted on google earth to remind us all that there is immediate work to be done.
- nincrumpet, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23@ericab007
Let me get this straight - you are seriously suggesting that ethnic cleansing and massive displacement is an effective tool for decreasing the amount of global AIDS cases? Primarily, that's some nineteen-aught-eight style eugenics ***** right there. Secondarily, how paranoid are you that you truly believe that any of these mostly poverty-stricken individuals, some of which may be suffering from this disease, will have any effect on your ignorant ass or...
Oh, nevermind. I think "I hate you" will suffice. - jake8689, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18OK yeah Katrina sucked ass but whats happening in darfur is on a completely different level, millions of people have been killed for years and all we(UN) do is drop rice like rice is going to stop the killing.
- b0wl0fud0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I took screenshots of the google earth Sudan images a month ago and submitted to digg. Here's the photos for those who don't want to have to open up google earth to view them. The kpm file to get the locations and etc info is in the link.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/98563691@N00/sets/72157594578490767/ - Shuk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I concur. It's good to see a company help out the best way they can. Google just went a notch up in my book. I'm pretty sure nobody paid them to do this (nor is this a profitable measure).
- glxyjones, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Don't you just love our government? By invading Iraq an additional 60,000 (the 655,000, aka 2% of the entire population of Iraq, mark was published by one group and is extremely debatable) people have lost their lives. If our government actually cared about "saving lives" like they say they do, we would've put our resources into stopping the genocide in Darfur well before it reached the 200,000 mark (not including the millions who have lost their homes). Assuming we could've prevented 150,000 deaths, at least 210,000 (at most 50,000 deaths would've occurred regardless of our involvement) have lost their lives because of our ignorance/greed.
We need a leader with the ethics to know what is right, and the balls to do it. - starcrunchfx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@glxyjones
Our government is to blame? The rest of the world is ignoring it as well. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@hdtvdust
http://www.google.com/press/awards.html
You stupid *****. - MewTwo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Don't worry. There isn't enough "interest" in Sudan for the U.S. to intervene.
Also... People comparing Katrina and the (real) genocide happening in Darfur are senseless. - ksool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Sadly, in the arrogance of my youth, that statistic was something I learned just like any other statistic, a number to remember until just after the exam.
Or maybe it was just my naivete in thinking that there just wasn't enough ugliness in the world to do that kind of destruction.
Either way, 6 years, a college education, and a son make you view the world in a different light... - lobrien006, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8PAW.... it's a good thing you represent yourself, and only yourself. I am a Canadian and I am sure more caring American's would like to see the world's largest and powerful country step in. Leave it to the UN, ya, they did a great job in Rwanda.
- kazimir34, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7you may want to click on these links for actual proofs:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/google-earth-and-katrina-help.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/07/google_maps_katrina/ - Jesse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Umm... see Entropyman's coherent explanation of Google and New Orleans. Or never admit you're wrong, ever, even if you are.
- ryanonfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6this should be number one on the top ten and not "A Firefox Bankcard! how cool is that?"
- datcrazydj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Whoa. This some really interesting stuff. Here is a screenie. (Sorry, I'm too lazy to sign up for Flickr right now)
http://xs414.xs.to/xs414/07153/darfur.png - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As for specific Katrina-related awards, I had this one in mind when I wrote that post (found via google search: "google katrina award"). I think it's already been posted above. Do a friggin internet search next time.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/google-earth-and-katrina-help.html
As for a link for the Darfur info, check out this great/official page to start:
http://www.ushmm.org/googleearth/ - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5A book I was reading said that Kofi Annan wanted to use private military contractors to sort the problem out. Oh, but that was too politically incorrect...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5google earth put the pics back up, last i knew
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9ksool...if you thought that the Holocaust only killed somewhere around 200,000-500,000 and realy were shocked to find out the real truth, I have lost ALL faith in the school system.
- ButterBuddha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4it's perverted that we can watch the on-going genocide take place from the safety of the my home pc....
At least there isn't any webcams posted throughout the region so we can have a closer look at the raping, torturing, and murder... - hushtown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4As good as Google's intentions are by taking this course of action, I worry about the future effects of using an unbiased informational tool like Google Earth to provide editorial-type information. Clearly there is a huge void in coverage by most traditional news sources who'd rather cover the Anna Nicole Smith drama, and Google has decided to help fill that void. I can't and won't complain about this decision...it is much needed and should be congratulated
My concern is what the implications are for this style of top-down editing if it is applied in more ambiguous instances. For instance what happens if Google starts trying to apply this model to Iraq or North Korea or any other politically-charged locations. Who decides what extra information is provided? A map is an objective tool: it tells you if a road exists, a mountain, a restaurant. In addition Google Earth also allows user-generated subjective content, which is a great feature. But what happens when you combine top-down editorial-generated information and then place it in the objective context of a map?
I argue that it becomes very difficult to supply this extra (subjective) information without also supplying some other agenda (either deliberately of accidentally). In fact, the publication of the Darfur information is also intended to pursue an agenda - educating people about the atrocities in order to bring about their end. The difference here is that no sane person of any political persuasion or nationality could have a problem with this agenda, which is why everyone here is so happy with Google.
I'm not saying Google shouldn't have done this, not by a long shot. I'm just saying they should be very, very careful about doing this in the future in more ambiguous instances. - DurkaMcDurk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9maggiesue... hurricanes happen... ***** gets torn up... get over it
- shadowpr0ph3t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.ushmm.org/conscience/analysis/details.php?content=2005-11-25&page=1&menupage=Sudan
Look at the camps all the displaced live in. Made of garbage. - Pile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Does anyone have a kml link to bring this up in Google Earth?
- HatoriHanso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Bravo! BRAVO Google!
- redmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Sudan has oil and sell it to China. It is why China protects Sudan in UN.
- dmbandme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@monkeyrun
I've seen this a couple of times in the comments so I thought I'd point out that there IS oil here. That's part of why this is happening and why this genocide has been quietly continuing over the last 4 years. There is heavy Chinese oil purchasing going on which the corrupt Sudanese government is in control of and reaping the benefits from. PetroChina seems to be the largest culprit AND the Chinese have for a while now been a major roadblock for a diplomatic solution at the UN. Many Universities and a handful of states have divested from PetroChina and other companies who are benefiting from this genocide. Even my parent's stock portfolio had some stocks in Sudanese oil companies that we got removed.
Check out the Wikipedia entry "Darfur Conflict" for a great overview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict). Part of the reason so many people don't know about this is that it's complicated and the explanation could never fit into a 15 second news clip. No one has included the link yet, but I'll post it -- in case anyone feels inclined to help get on the email list at SaveDarfur.org.
And I'll say it again, 2.5 million lives currently hang in the balance, so this is far from over. - VeryBoredNow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Google is my hero.
- rnguyen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2more reason to love google
- redmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Are you kidding? This article got on first page of Digg because of Google word in the title. I am personally are digging every Darfur story. But there is 2 problems:
a)liberal left(not all, but most of them) only diggs story that blame Bush, USA, Israel.
b)Liberal left bury all stories about muslim atrocity. - glxyjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Regardless of your opinion on Google Earth, how is this topic not #1 on digg? Any article that raises the awareness of this atrocity needs to be digged.
***** liberal vs conservative, this goes beyond petty one's petty political biases. Everyone needs to get off their ass and at the very least, write their senators or another elected official. Take 10 minutes and do something good with your day...
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm - glxyjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Your ignorance makes me yearn for the days when evolution and natural selection actually took place, before the agricultural revolution. With your apathy towards any fellow hunter gatherer, you surely would've died off in an instant. On the most basic level of survival, it better serves man to help fellow man. Turning a blind eye to the world and each other, will surely result in its end.
At least we both agree, I assume, that the US should no longer be in Iraq. Although, with you policy, the day will come when a superpower rivaling that of Roman or Ottoman Empire will spread from country to country while every nation sits idly for their turn to be attacked and conquered. Keeping those in check who would do harm to the people of their own country or another, is a practice mankind has used for years, including the US, for betterment of mankind and oneself. Apathy is never the answer.
So enjoy your nice car, and your beautiful house, and your fast computer, all made by someone other than yourself. We all need the help of others to survive in this world, on both the global and personal level.
"No man is an island, entire of itself" - krunk4ever, on 10/26/2007, -0/+1They're actually making a documentary on what's going on with Darfur, hopefully to spread the knowledge to more people:
http://www.hd-trailers.net/preview.php?id=darfur_n ... - batista86, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow that ericab007 is a grade A certified douche bag. I hope one day you are murdered by a militant soldier. And have your entire family raped and killed. It may be beneficial to the world to have the stupidity of your kind gone.
- glxyjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@starcrunchfx
Good point, our government is not at fault for this conflict. However...
"Now, we must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil, which we must fear most, and that is, the indifference of good men."
Granted, from a (great) movie but valid non-the-less. I was simply making a point that if our government decided to help out and stop the atrocity in Darfur rather than invade Iraq, than lives would be saved, not lost. - ridd1e, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How it looks like in GE:
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dfjd3.jpg - InstantABS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Unfortunately passive techniques like this probably won't have much of an effect. Regardless, I applaud Google for taking advantage of their unique position in the global conscience."
Unfortunately, I have to agree here. It is so nice of Google's they've raised the awareness of such a disaster but eventually is there anyone to take care of it and do something? I deeply doubt. - kingygk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Say no to another military failure. Dont send the troops to die in useless cause. Do not send them to Darfur!
- partysan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Sudan deals oil to China. Probably a big reason why the US isn't there liberating anybody.
- maggiesue0303, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This article appeared on numerous media outlets. Date: March 30th.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Earth-Criticized-For-Image-Censorship-50782.shtml
This article was not released to as many mainstream markets as the first....why??? Google wasn't trying to do the right thing....they were covering their asses and sucking their thumbs. Date: April 3rd.
http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=02300243F7GQ - PrivateGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Dang, we'd better get our troops out of there pronto!
- wulanshout, on 11/15/2008, -0/+0http://www.wulanshout.com/seo/busby-seo-test-seo-c ...
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What a fantastic observation! Tell you what, see my other comments above. Why don't you go over there and fix everything? No? Why not? Exactly, its not my problem. If they want to kill each other, or just kill a certain group of people, let them do it. It has zero impact on the rest of the world.
No, that isn't a mean thing to say, its reality.
Your remark on the other hand....why don't you go do all those things you hope happens to ericab007 yourself? You wouldn't, you couldn't. Hope all you want, but if you aren't doing anything.....well, you aren't doing anything.
Let me tell you what I hope. I hope that the next time you go to hug a tree, the tree turns you around, bends you over.....fill in the rest yourself. Leave the Africans alone, and leave the trees alone, neither of them have ever done anything to you, and never will. -
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