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Giuliani: Troops Prefer Fox News Because its More Balanced

thinkprogress.org — Fox hosts insisted that it made perfect sense that soldiers overseas would prefer Fox News because “they’re getting a fair and balanced approach” to the war. Rudy Giuliani declared that if Obama “has any understanding of how American troops think,” he’d know they feel that they “get a better shake on Fox” than the other “anti-military” networks.

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  • lefthandpisces, on 07/24/2008, -21/+84Fox new's reporting is about as balanced as greta van strussen's *****.
    • qdkk, on 07/25/2008, -3/+9At least her ***** aren't dribbling lies (or are they?).
    • chuckles08, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6greta van strussen has *****?
      • lefthandpisces, on 07/25/2008, -2/+13yes, as mentioned, she has fox news *****: fairly unbalanced
      • TremorX, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1*****:Greta::Truth:Fox
    • UberNick, on 07/25/2008, -2/+9Ha! You know she was on CNN *before* all the plastic surgery.
    • heysuburbia, on 07/25/2008, -1/+8I seriously just laughed out loud when I read that and dropped sauce on my pants from the slice of pizza I'm eating at work.
      • Snipez, on 07/25/2008, -0/+0I bet your keyboard is overly greasy and somewhat saucy.
    • lalalalamppost, on 07/25/2008, -1/+9Can't she use Scientology to balance them out? I thought that was an OT power.
      • Elranzer, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1It's an Encounter power, not an At-Will.
    • godfly, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1who is this greta van strussen? how come google search turns up nothing except a link to this digg thread. nada in images search as well.
    • rz8472, on 07/25/2008, -1/+2Greta van Susternen is supposedly a fairly liberal Democrat. But what FOX does to those people is either have them purposely browbeaten consistently by a bombastic, self-confident conservative (ie HANNITY and colmes) or cover junk missing white girl crap that really has no consequence in politics or current events. She does the latter.
      • rpgmaker, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1While it may be true I think that the only show on Fox that *could* claim to be fair and balanced is Hannity & Colmes, the only thing is that the guests are mostly right-wingers and outnumber the leftists.
    • rpgmaker, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Greta Van Suteren is a guy.
  • Surferess, on 07/24/2008, -14/+8Right, that is why.
  • iraq, on 07/24/2008, -20/+76Way to exploit the men and women who put their lives on the line every day so that political agendas can be achieved. Giuliani is the biggest ***** terrorist in America, he would try and manipulate the news this way.
    • DuggDowner, on 07/25/2008, -2/+20No shock this exploitation comes from one of the biggest 9/11 profiteers. No wonder Rudy's wife and kids hate his guts.
      • beesaretasty, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4His kid's also a douche who is suing his school because he was too crappy to make the cut on his golf team.
    • dcmjzero, on 07/25/2008, -0/+29/11
      • mikespinelli, on 07/25/2008, -0/+0You just barely missed the amount of words Rudy says.
    • TsuruchiBrian, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Rudy $9.11 Guiliani
  • Insightful, on 07/24/2008, -13/+38First Doocy lies by claiming Fox has the best coverage of the war.

    Then Carlson lies by pulling facts out of her ass i.e. US military offer "all cable channels and mainstream media channels".

    Kilmeade then belittles the troops by saying he can change the channels in his health club, why can't the soldiers?

    Carlson repeats the lie again about all channels are offered offered but 30 seconds later, Fox itself confirms that only three channels are available: AFN, CNN International, and Fox, the only American channel and the MOST misleading channel that covers the least about the war. And somehow, other networks are anti-military.

    This is a f***in g joke right? Why are they on TV as opposed to selling used cars?
    • Nintendesert, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2It's not CNN International, it's just normal CNN that you all watch. We get BBC when it works and Fox News and snippets of all the other major news outlets over AFN.
    • JJ2K1, on 07/25/2008, -2/+5Yea no Joke, AFN is a joke of a military television provider as well, compliantly giving the troops the current regime agenda. Then again, it is run by the military so no matter what you get ***** where ever you go.
      • Nintendesert, on 07/25/2008, -8/+1You don't even know what you're talking about.
      • mikalveli, on 07/25/2008, -1/+8Nintendesert, I served overseas and watched tons of AFN. Yes it is a joke and yes it is full of the current regime agenda. I was fed the ***** for 3 straight years. All the way from the programming choices down to the snippets they show in place of commercials. Not saying they are evil, just saying they don't exactly show the full picture.
  • infodoc1, on 07/24/2008, -10/+56Did Fixed News ever offer any explanation for airing the edited photos of the NYT reporters? That was the most fair and balanced report I've ever seen.
  • obliviousfool, on 07/24/2008, -10/+94Giuliani prefers propaganda because he's a freaking fascist.
    • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -14/+4actually the lefts attempt to silence any opposition with legislation such as "the fairness doctrine" is fascism. The troops tuning there t.v.'s to fox newsis called freedom. Thank God we live in a country where we can still chose where we get our news. I wonder why all you people that bitch about fox news don't bitch about sources such as the huffinton post, moveon or thinkprogress. But I guess its ok if it reflects your opinion. There's a word for that i think it is..... oh ya FASCISM
      • MacEnvy, on 07/25/2008, -3/+8You need to look up what fascism means, because even if your examples were true, they have nothing to do with fascism.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -6/+3So your saying the government controlling what people say and regulating what the media reports is not fascism? Please sir.
        A pillar of Fascism is the forcible suppression of opposition. Please tell me how the fairness doctrine does not do that.
      • MacEnvy, on 07/25/2008, -2/+5I think the term you're looking for in censorship and/or authoritarianism. Authoritarian rule is also a "pillar" of Stalinism, but no one would call Stalin a fascist. My point is that your little freakout up there was poorly worded and factually incorrect.

        Giuliani does indeed fall toward the fascist end of the spectrum on any political scale - authoritarianism mixed with corporate collusion.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -4/+3per Webster: fas·cism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
        2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

        Now i will ask you again how is the lefts attempt to control media outlets that don't fully support there agenda such as Fox News and conservative talk radio not an example of Fascism?
      • ParaSwarm, on 07/25/2008, -0/+5"The troops tuning there t.v.'s to fox newsis called freedom."

        As somebody currently serving in the Air Force, I can assure you that we are mostly forced to watch FOX. Most TVs in our buildings are always on FOX and you are not allowed to change them. If that's freedom to you, then I want no part of it.

        Also, you're an idiot.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -3/+1"Did you really feel the need to copy & paste it again?"
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/25/2008, -2/+4PenisEnvy is right. That's not Fascism at all.

        Fascism is when the rich or corporate class control the government. The nation becomes a police state. Dissent is considered treason. The government is not accountable, and does not act within the interests of the public. Rule of law is skirted or suspended by governing powers.

        Sort of like a George Bush presidency.
      • usaf1984, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2@paraswarm

        *****

        Turn the channel your an idiot.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -3/+2@ MacSuxWindozSux

        "Fascism is when the rich or corporate class control the government"
        If this is truly what you think please get an education. Since you have seem to have forgotten that there are free dictionaries on line i am going to help u out.
        per Webster: fas·cism - 1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
        2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
      • MacSuxWindozSux, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3@kigcoopa84

        I was referring to Karl Marx. Who wrote of Fascism as a stage of late Capitalism.
        Furthermore, I gave a description as it related to the situation at hand.

        Websters Dictionary is not a substitute for Post-Secondary education. Go back to school.
        *****.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/26/2008, -2/+1Ya I start law school in the fall
    • dcmjzero, on 07/25/2008, -1/+69/11
    • marillion, on 07/25/2008, -1/+2In all likelihood, he prefers the propaganda because actually believes it.
  • angusm, on 07/24/2008, -6/+30More balanced than _what_?
  • Airforcefalco, on 07/25/2008, -8/+9Wait who, during the primaries, received more from the US Military than all of the other candidates combined? What was he saying about the war?
  • 03FightOn, on 07/25/2008, -5/+9I love occam's razor......here that noise...it's the sound of a pradigm shifting without a clutch...LMAO
  • duggtodeath, on 07/25/2008, -8/+33Why would soldiers in war need to watch TV to get coverage of it?
    • bearcat8543, on 07/25/2008, -1/+3LOL sadly, i honestly never thought of that.
    • bluesman3535, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Let's call it a 'Hogan's Heros" effect. Just as the inner workings of Stalag 13 became watchable via TV fantasy, so does the Iraq war.
    • MageSTYK, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Well saddly to find out how your buddies are doing on another part of Iraq.
      Alot of bases/camps are remote places, you dont see action/war.
      You wonder how things are going with your friends on his side of the fence.

      Saddly FOX gives you BULL ***** and so you find other ways(Contractors) to write emails and surf the internet for the TRUTH.
    • girlpirate, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1well you live in the US so why do you need to watch the news about a country you are living in?
  • TCSavant, on 07/25/2008, -22/+15All cable news is spin. Fox just puts on a more troop-friendly spin than others. If I were fighting in this tough conflict, I sure wouldn't want to watch a network determined to tell me at every opportunity that my service and sacrifices are misguided.
  • jimmyb3, on 07/25/2008, -30/+9Sorry Libs, but I agree. Fox definitely leans to the right, but its "news" programs, as opposed to its commentary programs (which are by definition partisan) at least try to give voice to both sides. The networks don't even try most of the time. The are two busy trying to crown Obama King of America.
    • DuggDowner, on 07/25/2008, -3/+11Fox has news programs?
    • catcher6250, on 07/25/2008, -6/+1Obamaking
    • egoherodotus, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6When did FoxNews start reporting news? I just looked at the schedule and all 24 hours are filled with editorials. Help me out.
      • jimmyb3, on 07/26/2008, -0/+1Wow, a completely unexpected reply on Digg. I can't believe one of the FEW far left screaming liberals on this site managed to stumble onto my remark for comment. What are the odds?
    • Elranzer, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4Both sides: Moderately right-wing and extremely right-wing.
    • akamurph, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1You mean Obama "King of the World"
      • jimmyb3, on 07/26/2008, -0/+1Yeah, you socialists would love that. You probably are rooting for the UN to take over as a "world government." Nice.
      • akamurph, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Hope you weren't referring to me as a socialist
  • nastronomical, on 07/25/2008, -30/+10Sorry Libs, but I agree. Fox definitely leans to the right, but its "news" programs, as opposed to its commentary programs (which are by definition partisan) at least try to give voice to both sides. The networks don't even try most of the time. The are two busy trying to crown Obama King of America.
    • nblsavage, on 07/25/2008, -3/+9tsk, tsk Nasty. Do you have a split personality?
    • sizzzzlerz, on 07/25/2008, -2/+6Hey, nastro. You sound exactly like that jimmyb3 guy!
      • sensical, on 07/25/2008, -2/+8He's giving voice to both sides Fox style.
    • SocialPoison, on 07/25/2008, -2/+3THAT is laughable. I'll grant you that their pure "news" segments are ok... but so is CNN's and MSNBC's and everyone else's. The PROBLEM with fox news (and every news source) is its commentary programs because some people are too ***** stupid to realize that it's not news! And that wouldn't be such an issue... except they VOTE!

      Saying "Aside from the commentary programs, Fox news is pretty balanced" is like saying "Aside from the Holocaust, Hitler wasn't a bad guy."

      /not a record time for Godwin, but pretty good
    • jstancom, on 07/25/2008, -3/+8Terrorist Fist Jab?

      I'm sorry but Fox News is a parody of news. It even beats The Daily Show as parody. Getting the two foremost whackjobs on any debate and having them scream at each other isn't news. Plus, the commentators are mindnumbingly dumb and I cannot stand them. Apparently there, the louder you scream the "more correct" you are. Ann Coulter and Karl Rove go on Fox News regularly. It's like they don't even try.

      Most American news is horrible anyway, I try to watch the BBC and Al-Jazeera sometimes. I want news, not flashy graphics and guitar squeals. American news is now entertainment, not a reliable source for journalistic integrity. Hyperbole is rampant. But especially at Fox News. I'm not saying that I don't watch American news, but I prefer it to be CNN.

      Graphics before the Iraq War showing an eagle transforming into a fighter jet and shooting missiles??? Come on. I bet they were frothing at the mouth for us to go to war so their ratings would go up.
    • swrostmore, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6LOL@blatant sockpuppetry. Report this tool for abuse.
  • miamidolfan13, on 07/25/2008, -4/+2Fox news is great entertainment.
    http://www.bluetidalwave.com/2008/07/walmart-women ...
  • ChayesFSS, on 07/25/2008, -4/+7I try not to get wrapped around the axle concerning other peoples likes and dislikes... It's ***** American , you've got a choice of who you watch.
    • bagelmaster, on 07/25/2008, -3/+7It bothers some people that war propaganda is being broadcast as "news" and people believe it.
      • ChayesFSS, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4imho, any type of 'editorial' can be considered 'propaganda'
      • Depthfunction, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Then you don't understand the difference between an "editorial" and "propaganda". An editorial is simply an opinion, an argument that represents the ideas of one individual, or at most, one organization. Most editorials use rhetoric and logic to persuade their readers. Propaganda is the deliberate distortion and manipulation of facts and reality in order to fool people into supporting the policies and ideas of the propagandist.

        Not everything that Fox News does is propaganda, but a lot of it is.
  • PleaseJustDie, on 07/25/2008, -18/+13I think its more likely that troops watch Fox News because of its right leaning political stance on a majority of its shows, as a result it doesn't demonize the troops nearly as much as some of the other news networks and it's show hosts and anchors actually speak support for the troops in this conflict.

    Unlike some anchors on other networks that speak out against the war and openly criticize the troops for volunteering to join the military and allowing the government to send them over there.
    • pnunn, on 07/25/2008, -5/+10Maybe I am unaware- but do you have any examples of these "other networks" criticizing individual soldiers for joining? I would like to see that. I honestly can't recall troops EVER being criticized. The war. Yup. The upper echelon military that make the decisions. Yup.

      The soldiers? Nope. Seriously, enlighten me- show me an example and qualify this- you might really blow my mind. Show me an example- to be specific of your claim that "some anchors on other networks that speak out against the war and openly criticize the troops for volunteering to join the military and allowing the government to send them over there." I want the part about criticizing the soldiers for joining and "allowing the government to send them over there" most of all.

      If you can generate REAL evidence of this from news anchors on said channels- and I'm talking news anchors, not guests, not opinion forums- news anchors. Show me.

      Bet you can't. Cause you made it up. You consolidated actions of several people in different tiers and attempted to make it a statement about all the anchors on "those other channels."

      Worse yet, you did something so weak in defense of ***** Rudy G. One of the greatest profiteers from New York's day in the tenth level of hell. You are SUCH a patriot.. er... puppet.

      Qualify yourself- change my mind. What other network have you even been watching?

  • eddyheart, on 07/25/2008, -4/+3head asplode
  • PacketScan, on 07/25/2008, -7/+5Fox is the Laughing stock.. Why did they get left behind on obama's tour?
    - Because they suck..
    • MacEnvy, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Actually CNN and MSNBC weren't invited either. I hate FNC, but none of the cable news channels were part of the entourage.
  • Zlorp, on 07/25/2008, -3/+18Giuliani is probably trying to suck off Faux News so they'll run sympathy stories about the lawsuit he and his son have filed against Duke University for kicking his jerkoff kid off of their golf team.
  • motocrossmann, on 07/25/2008, -19/+5Wow, you diggers are so liberal! Is this site owned by NBC?
    • MacEnvy, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6Reality has a liberal bias. It's nice to see that reality is catching on a bit thanks to the increasing openness of information.
    • rexblade, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4Im conservative and despise Fox and most corporate news. War is not conservative, trying to connect it as such will not work. If you can't understand that then blame Fox news. Its like painting a piece of ***** up like an Easter egg.
  • sultanica, on 07/25/2008, -9/+7fair and balanced...that's like saying the war wasn't for oil
    • rexblade, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4They usually answer that with "well but were winning now the surge is working" or "at the time we honestly thought he was a threat" completely sidestepping the immorality of murdering for corporate profits.
  • badbyte80, on 07/25/2008, -4/+9Somehow Giuliani is under the impression that we listen to him.
    Isn't he the guy who's vocabulary was reduced to "911" and "Terror" whenever a camera was in his face?
    He reminded me of that freaky scene from "being John Malkovich" where the world communicated by repeating john Malkovich's name over and over again.
    • jstancom, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Yeah, I hear you. Guiliani is so in touch with our troops. Why doesn't he just put on a uniform and go out there and fight. Chickenhawk coward.
  • krnldmp, on 07/25/2008, -4/+15Guiliani is so ***** up the ass. I heard him trying to compare 9/11 to the bombing of Britain in WWII, and this was only weeks ago. You may as well just write him off.
    • JJ2K1, on 07/25/2008, -3/+5Yea because we all know the British parliament bombed their own country to start a war with those Nazi regime terrorists to bring down Osama Bin Hilter
  • FeloniusMonkey, on 07/25/2008, -2/+6Once Giuliani removes his head from his own ass, even he won't take himself seriously anymore.
  • LunaticFringe, on 07/25/2008, -3/+8Considering the current administration has done everything possible to dumb down the country, from reducing the education budget to trying to kill off the new GI Bill and prevent vets from getting a better education, this ***** really doesn't surprise me. It's class warfare.
    • bjornski, on 07/27/2008, -0/+1Rush Limbaugh thinks you're wrong.

      But what do you expect from someone who just signed a $400 million contract.
  • deadlyfluvirus, on 07/25/2008, -4/+4If troops prefered Fox News, their ratings should be through the roof. Of course, that's not the case.
    • edyang, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Um did you know that Fox has four times more viewers than MSNBC and CNN combined?

      I'd say that qualifies as "through the roof".
      • ParaSwarm, on 07/25/2008, -2/+2edyang, people in the military are practically forced to watch FOX, and nobody is allowed to change the channels (atleast in the Air Force.) I literally just walked out of our snack bar 10 minutes ago; guess which channel it was on... and nobody watching it (which is a good sign.) That's where they get their ratings from.
      • edyang, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Well I don't think anyone should be forced to watch any channel so if that's the case it's completely wrong. You would know better than I since you're in the trenches.

        However, I wonder how Nielsen ratings track that type of viewership? In the sense of a) military installations outside of the US and b) one TV on in a common area where multiple people might be watching.

        I don't know the answer, but if someone is smarter than me has insight into TV ratings, that would be interesting.
      • JustinPM, on 07/25/2008, -2/+1I know what you're saying ParaSwarm, same thing in my shop. I just shake my head in disgust everytime I see someone watching it. There's a dude there that totally digs on it too, but that dude is weird as hell. I'm going to start switching it to PBS, it has the least agenda ridden news programs around. I already know you can't trust CBS because of the recent McCain interview, and I've known for years that Fox News is just the pinnacles of ***** journalism.
      • edyang, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2So in your opinion Justin, any network that covers McCain = bad.

        And you do know that PBS is extremely liberal, don't you? Bill Moyers' journal? And the fact that it's subsidized by government funding?
      • JustinPM, on 07/26/2008, -1/+1No, I don't care at all that a network covers McCain. Everybody should be covered, but are you honestly defending Fox News, the folks that made a lapel pin an issue when there are a ridiculous amount of more important issues? PBS is extremely liberal? Wow. Bill Moyers has more journalistic integrity than the entire Fox News cast of blowhards. Please cite some examples as to how extremely liberal (as if that is worse than extremely conservative) PBS is. The fact of the matter is, news is going to have some bias, journalists are supposed to objective. Fox News is never objective.
  • dmjarrington, on 07/25/2008, -4/+10Giuliani just says this because he is a stock holder. Everybody knows that FOX is nothing more than tabloid journalism.
  • cadmiumpaint, on 07/25/2008, -2/+10at least Gulliani stopped saying "911" in ever other sentence. Now he's just moved on to exploiting another group.
  • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -13/+6actually the lefts attempt to silence any opposition with legislation such as "the fairness doctrine" is fascism. The troops tuning there t.v.'s to fox newsis called freedom. Thank God we live in a country where we can still chose where we get our news. I wonder why all you people that bitch about fox news don't bitch about sources such as the huffinton post, moveon or thinkprogress. But I guess its ok if it reflects your opinion. There's a word for that i think it is..... oh ya FASCISM
    • ParaSwarm, on 07/25/2008, -1/+4Yeah, you already said that in a reply to somebody's comment above. Did you really feel the need to copy & paste it again? (although I find it funny you didn't attempt to fix any of your numerous typos and spelling errors first.) Very well, I'll copy & paste my earlier reply to this post.

      "The troops tuning there t.v.'s to fox newsis called freedom."

      As somebody currently serving in the Air Force, I can assure you that we are mostly forced to watch FOX. Most TVs in our buildings are always on FOX and you are not allowed to change them. If that's freedom to you, then I want no part of it.

      Also, you're an idiot.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -2/+1well thanks for not addressing anything in my post but you calling me names really hurt my feelings....

        If you really did serve in the air force I shouldn't have to tell you that the reason you couldn't change the channel from fox isn't because of military policy but a result of popular opinion.

        Also spelling and grammar isn't a top priority when addressing people like you.
      • ParaSwarm, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2How did I not address anything in your post? I quoted your poorly-written sentence, and then I provided a rebuttal. Are you braindead?

        "If you really did serve in the air force I shouldn't have to tell you that the reason you couldn't change the channel from fox isn't because of military policy but a result of popular opinion. "

        You are an ignoramus of the highest order. Firstly, since you are not in the military you have no basis, proof, or experience for this pompous assumption. Since I am currently in the military, I have much more hands-on experience with this issue, and I'm letting you know that it is NOT because of popular opinion. I am currently sitting in an office with some liberal people, some conservative people, and some libertarians, and none of them enjoy FOX whatsoever (we often talk about these issues, as well as discuss the brainwashed populace such as yourself.)

        Nay, the reason we cannot turn the channel from FOX is because it is a rule. They don't make military rules for TV channels over "popular opinion." That sounds more like fascism to me than anything I've heard you utter. If we truly had freedom to watch what we want, then we wouldn't be forced to watch a right-wing biased "news" station. However, I suspect if we were forced to watch MSNBC or CNN, you'd have some real problems with that.

        I pity you and your shallow worldview.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -2/+1First of all I was discharged from the Army 1 year ago last week... the real military. Like most people who have served I don't feel the need to advertise it every chance I get.
        Second the point of my post was the "fairness doctrine" not your personal experiences. That is what you have failed to address.
        Third: When stationed over-sea's CNN international is available on military TV.

        I pity people like you. Instead of calling me names you could make an intelligent argument using facts to back up statements. That would make more of a statement than calling me an "ignoramus". You and people like you would not know Fascism till it spits in you face and takes away your country.

        Oh ya and you should teach you kid spanish...
      • ParaSwarm, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1You make me sigh. Go read a book or two, then come back and then we'll determine if you can form an educated opinion or statement.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1still not one response to the original post.

        "They don't make military rules for TV channels over "popular opinion." That sounds more like fascism to me than anything I've heard you utter." THAT SOUNDS MORE LIKE DEMOCRACY!!!

        I am not sure if using words and statements such as "brainwashed populace", "ignoramus", "are you braindead", or "you're an idiot" are consistent with making educated statements, outside of a 2nd grade classroom of course.
      • usaf1984, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1Paraswarm the amount of ***** billowing out of your fingertips onto my screen is amazing, im suprised coms hasnt shut your internet connection off yet for being a retard.

        Im sitting in an office right now watching msnbc, i could go to the chow hall right now and cnn would be on all the big screens, there is no monitoring of our t.v stations if you have a problem with fox news and you dont want to watch it go to another t.v or voice your complaint instead of making false arguments against the people in your shop, if they wont turn the channel turn the t.v off and tell them to get to work. Dont be a douche bag.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1its too late for that
    • GhostyBoy, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Um...that's not facism. You clearly have the internet. Look it up before you use it in a sentence.
      • kigcoopa84, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Whats not. Telling the media what they can report?
  • fulibs, on 07/25/2008, -12/+3Why are you all bashing Guiliani? He is not the one that made the observation, Obama was. Shouldn't all this misdirected hate be at Obama for noticing most of the televisions at army bases were tuned to FOX?

    FTA - "While chatting with reporters on his press plane this week, Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), noting that many of the televisions at army bases in Iraq and Afghanistan were tuned to Fox News"

    • mystilon, on 07/25/2008, -3/+5You're confused. Nobody is bashing Guiliani for saying that the military watches fox news. They are bashing him for suggesting that the reason that they do so is because it is "fair and balanced". Fox News isn't "fair and balanced," hence the outcry.
    • ables, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1Which shows that obama actually understands that it's nothing but trash that is broadcasting by fox news, but knows that he cant say it directly. He understands that pissing off fox before he's elected would be an bad idea. They already have on multiple times tried to get ratings out of insulting him and his family.

      Just a little comment like that is enough to show people he's not blind. If you haven't ever watched fox news and been appalled by at least one story that they feed you, then i suggest you take a long hard look at what you believe. CNN and BBC have much more credentials and should be shown over fox.

      People need to learn that watching any news station is good.... but choose for yourself what to believe from.
      • Stregasusi, on 07/25/2008, -1/+2That reminds me of the time I was having lunch out somewhere and they had Fox News up on the TV in the restaurant. They were doing a "news" report on the evils of Halloween and they had this grown man on there close to tears. Why was he close to tears? He believed he was traumatized as a child because he saw a woman in a Dream of Jeannie costume and he saw her navel. I laughed so hard I almost started choking.
      • fulibs, on 07/25/2008, -2/+1Ok, I see. The double standard is that Obama can do whatever the ***** he wants, but when McCain expresses his opinion, there is a Digg public outcry?

        FTA - "Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), noting that many of the televisions at army bases in Iraq and Afghanistan were tuned to Fox News, jokingly asked, “Is this the commander in chief’s choice?”"

        Digg me down again... I understand, to you, fair and balanced means you only want to hear what jibes with your wacky beliefs.
  • drmangrum, on 07/25/2008, -4/+3*****. It's one of the only American channels supplied by AFN. It's not a preference, it's all that's fairly neutral ( as far as station types. not everyone wants to watch french music videos) and available.
    • MacEnvy, on 07/25/2008, -3/+3And how is it fairly neutral again?

      Hint: letting Alan Colmes on your channel doesn't make you "neutral" or "balanced". Hell, even we lefties think Alan Colmes is an idiot who couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper bag.
      • drmangrum, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Did you even read my explanation or did you just see neutral and reply with a new jerk reaction?

        Neutral in the context I used means if your choice of channels is Music Videos, Home and Gardening, News, or Soccer then the News something that most can agree to watch.
      • MacEnvy, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Ah, I see. So you meant that it's the easiest to get everyone to agree on. Gotcha.

        Although I'm surprised that they'd want to watch something so serious. If I was there I suspect I'd want to forget about politics and that stuff as much as possible, even if it meant watching gardening shows or soccer.
  • Gunsotsu, on 07/25/2008, -3/+15As a former member of the US Army, I can honestly say I never watched Faux News.
    • OffPiste, on 07/25/2008, -4/+3Yes!!! Anecdotal evidence rulzzzz!!!!!!

      When will America learn statistics?
  • jokerhl, on 07/25/2008, -1/+5Giuliani is unbalanced.
  • defektiv, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6..says the man that has never told the truth in his life.
  • Coreyinprogress, on 07/25/2008, -2/+8Listen Guys, Giuliani would definatly know, because of all those long years of service HE did oversees......

    Wait a second - WTF!@
  • str1fe, on 07/25/2008, -4/+15I have three military family members, two retired, and all with 20+ years of service. None of them like Fox News.
  • beerock, on 07/25/2008, -9/+7Reality : "Troops prefer FOX news because their racist and slanted reporting gives them the moral conviction to GET THE KILLING DONE!!! HOO RAH, AMERICA, ***** YEAH, GET SOME, GET SOME, GET SOME!!!"
    • Bushlied, on 07/25/2008, -0/+4Ya know what happens when you get out of the Marine Corps. Ya get your ***** brain back. Young, dumb, and full of *****.
      • beerock, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Full Metal Jacket, anyone?
        Although, it's looking like 'Mean Mother Green and her Killing Machine" has been busy with torture, raiding houses, raping teens, they've really let the killing slide... c'mon Marines, gotsta get the killin' done.

        Then when you get home, unlimited paint-ball for life.
    • ParaSwarm, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1How dare you say something so unpatriotic, beerock! I'm reporting you to the Patriotism Police! (also known as FOX.)
  • skrowl, on 07/25/2008, -6/+8If you think CNN and MSNBC aren't anti-military you're either not being honest with yourself or you're just stupid.
    • bluesman3535, on 07/25/2008, -1/+0It's not the fault of CNN or MSNBC that Rumsfeld ignored calls for troop surges early in the war to the point of losing control. If anything it's Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld who are anti-military by ignoring good advice from people like Ralph Peters.
    • JustinPM, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1There is a difference between anti-military and anti-war. I tell you what, most people in the military are anti-war. If we didn't have wars, our jobs would be cake. I hope that people criticize government institutions, keep everybody honest. I'm sure that the military as a whole can take the criticism.

      Anyway, I'd have CNN or MSNBC injected into my bloodstream before having to suffer through fricken' Fox. That ***** just gets my blood boiling when every little thing gets their panties in a bunch when the ***** they peddle isn't even remotely news worthy.

      Obama's doing something else we don't like! Look at us dancing like the village idiots we are!

      We see you Fox News, but it's just not funny anymore. It's pathetic. Rupert Murdoch needs to be visited by the Ghost of Dead journalism so he can see what a *****' sham of a news station he's been peddling.
  • Quaterni0n, on 07/25/2008, -1/+2They should have been ***** comedians!

    "It's gold, Jerry! It's Gold!"
  • DeathToAmerica, on 07/25/2008, -3/+2The mainstream media has been destroyed and the consiousness of Americans has been retarded, dumbed down, and placated to justify their own greed. The enimies of the jihad are destroying themselves. Allahu Akbar!
  • Platinumwolf, on 07/25/2008, -1/+6The truth is that when we're over there, the only channels we get are CNN International, AFN, and Fox News. AFN is retarded to watch, and CNNI doesn't provide the news from back home unless it makes the world news. So the reason we watch Fox is because it happens to be the lesser of 3 evils.
    • DeathToAmerica, on 07/25/2008, -3/+2Well keep up the good work defending our freedoms and spreading democracy over there...oh wait your not doing that, your making the people who feed poison and propaganda 24/7 to your countrymen very rich. You are not heroz, you have bombed those poor people to submission to secure oil fields. You live a lie, and you happily take a pay check doing it.
    • GhostyBoy, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Thanks for a little perspective.

      Sorry if this should be obvious, but is it easy or difficult to get internet access?
  • Asvetic, on 07/25/2008, -2/+4That was the funniest headline I read all day.

    There's a guy in my office that says the same thing... all the other news agencies are biased and unbalanced, all but FOX NEWS... Ugh!
    • JustinPM, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1I would be careful of that dude, because the dude that thinks that is dangerous. And that button-down, Oxford-cloth psycho might just snap, and then stalk from office to office with an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon, pumping round after round into colleagues and co-workers.
  • reparsed, on 07/25/2008, -2/+5I imagine the troops would rather listen to a cheerleader rather than a critic, most anyone would.
    • Asvetic, on 07/25/2008, -0/+3Yeah, who wants to hear how much of a ***** job you have in a war even you think is bogus!? Fox will blow all the right smoke up your ass while patting you on the back "awesome work, great job!"

      Gotta keep the moral up!

  • edahms, on 07/25/2008, -2/+3http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

    google: zeitgeist the movie

    dumbing down america. class warfare. control of money by RFID chips. how the federal reserve conspires to keep america in debt.
    • TsuruchiBrian, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Zeitgeist was an interesting movie right up until the 9/11 conspiracy *****.

    • pilobilus, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Zeitgeist? As a student of Near and Middle Eastern mythology I can say that the segment about history of religion is roughly 80% lies and *****, made up from scratch to help the producers make their point. They go so far as to claim that the Southern Cross constellation was important to Near Eastern religious culture (it's not visible that far north), and one of their illustrations shows a sky that would only be visible from about 90 million miles north of the Sun. Never mind the "details" like the brand new role they made up for Horus in Egyptian mythology, etc. etc.

      I stopped watching before they moved on to more "modern" material. True, false, or unknown, anything in the film has to say must be regarded as made up ***** until or unless it has been thoroughly confirmed by independent sources - because the historical segment proves that the producers of Zeitgeist are more than willing to lie to sell their ideas.
  • macsox, on 07/25/2008, -0/+6I love how Giuliani is Mayor of New York on Sept. 11, and therefore an expert on a) anti-terrorism and b) the military.

    In much the same way that someone whose house is broken into is therefore an expert on a) keeping out criminals and b) the cops.

    Where does this jackass get off? And he thinks he's going to be our Governor? Hell, no.
    • bluesman3535, on 07/26/2008, -0/+0Not to mention running the most arrogant idiotic presidential campaign in recent decades. 'Gee I'll coast into Florida then wrap it up"
  • merlin5, on 07/25/2008, -8/+3Fox doesn't parrot the brainless liberal narrative so the angry mob views them as being liars.
  • Bushlied, on 07/25/2008, -4/+10I spent 9 years in the Corps, and can say the Fox news is the toilet bowl of the world. ***** Fox and the idiots that watch that trash.
  • retrotim, on 07/25/2008, -1/+8I am in the military and the ONLY reason a lot of us watch fox is because many of the TV's we have around base have signs on them that read "FOX NEWS ONLY". Most of them used to be turned to ESPN till about 7 years ago.
  • scabbers, on 07/25/2008, -0/+5I'm sure the FOX view of reality is a great comfort when you're "in the *****" experiencing the exact opposite.
    • farmerjohn48pan, on 07/25/2008, -1/+1Unless you have been there "in the *****" please refrain from comments about what it is like. And yes, I have.
      • scabbers, on 07/25/2008, -0/+2Sorry sailor, but sitting off the coast in a boat isn't "in the *****".
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Not all sailors sail shipmate!
  • santia90, on 07/25/2008, -1/+0AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHHAHA!!!!!!!!! FUNNIEST....LINE...EVER!
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