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- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -47/+555Someone give her a scholarship. We need smart people with common sense in academia.
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -20/+344What brain-dead teacher scolds an eighth-grader for her political affinity? Geez.
- THETEH, on 11/13/2008, -42/+280Her friends were predominantly liberal. If she'd been a student at a conservative Christian school, she'd have gotten the same sort of crap for wearing an Obama t-shirt.
- obeythefist, on 11/13/2008, -61/+290Here's the key sentence from this article that I think proves some of you fail, miserably, at reading comprehension:
"She noticed that fellow students at Gwendolyn Brooks ***Middle School*** overwhelmingly supported Barack Obama for president."
Now, I remember being picked on for wearing socks that were two different shades of white at that age, so I don't think this little experiment is proof positive that Obama supporters are intolerant -- just that some of them are in ***middle school***.
Some of your responses, however, do show your desperation to tell us that we all suck just as much as you do. - dynachrome, on 11/13/2008, -139/+359"All good Germans listen to Der Fuhrer and do not tolerate any dissent to his policies"
- blakecr, on 11/13/2008, -72/+280I live in Oklahoma, and I can tell you I have undergone more grief then this little girl about how I voted. My wife had been asked by her boss "are you even a christian?" Her mom sent her an email proclaiming judgment on those who vote for Obama! Judgment as in fire, brimstone, and hell! So spare me you mother *****!
I could go on, but its not that I am whining, I am just saying that if you go against the flow expect resistance. In my home state there have been reports of teachers calling Obama a Muslim and an atheist (which are not mutually exclusive) I mean if you really want to get down to it, I have heard my friends use racist slurs now that he is our president. I have heard the N word more in the past week then I have in my entire life. - Hetman, on 11/13/2008, -24/+217I think the problem comes when you try to force your morality through government laws, and through public schooling. Besides that I do not care what you believe.
- barfooz, on 11/13/2008, -9/+170Godwinned already. That was quick.
- Ironmom61, on 11/13/2008, -42/+175And isn't it funny that the ad on the page is nothing but Obama t-shirs?
- Hetman, on 11/13/2008, -75/+202Obviously this 8th grader was filthy stinking rich republican. I wonder if she is a banker or a day trader also. She probably benifited from the 700 billion dollar bail out.
- ColdChilli, on 11/13/2008, -15/+136Ads? What are those? use AdBlock
- oldhick, on 11/13/2008, -25/+130That's an extremely disingenuous approach to take... Liberals do not attack Christians for being Christians. Liberals, and many others (like fiscal conservatives and libertarians) simply want Christianity to remain outside of politics and government.
You can't legislate your morality onto people with out expecting some consequences. This entire persecuted Christian syndrome is disgusting and ridiculous. God has not shown you what persecution is. - GourmetDan, on 11/13/2008, -82/+176Slavery is freedom. Weakness is strength. Intolerance is tolerance. License is liberty.
Arbeit macht frei. - DreadPirate, on 11/13/2008, -8/+98Probably the same type that tells a student that her daddy will be stuck in Iraq for 100 years if she supports McCain...
- dieboldcracy, on 11/14/2008, -2/+80that's the entire point of this article. It's not stating that lefties are more intolerant. It is that intolerance is on both sides of the spectrum. So be conscious of your own tolerance
- godd4242, on 11/13/2008, -18/+93Wow it's pretty impressive how conservatively homogeneous the comments here are. "Liberals = intolerance" getting +25 diggs is a rarity.
Anyways, my two cents are what the article said, and not what previous digg comments have said (Liberals are intolerant, free speech for all except when you disagree) Yeah because there has never been an infringement on civil liberties backed by a conservative politician ever. Like you know, the last 8 years did not really exist...
Everyone's a jackass, stop blaming it on political identity. People are dicks and practice exclusivity, don't pretend that one side is better than the other. - youliveinfear, on 11/13/2008, -13/+86Grew up in a heavily conservative area and had to keep my mouth shut about politics. This is not an issue that is limited to one side or the other. It's a human trait, not a political one.
Furthermore, stop brainwashing kids with political bias please. - DreadPirate, on 11/13/2008, -42/+112This is not the first time a younger McCain supporter has encountered this kind of behavior or worse.
See http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/34305774 ... for a story about how a college student was attacked and ended up in the hospital on election night for the crime of wearing a McCain/Palin button. - jfshaughnessy, on 11/14/2008, -12/+82Oh my god!!! Teenagers taunt other teenager that doesn't fit in!!! Goddamn liberals with their child psychology...
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -4/+66Yes, you have us figured out (now you must be silenced for all eternity)
Us filthy rich republican 8th graders have been hoarding the earth's wealth for some time now. We are utilizing our windfall bailout loot for our evil republican ends (no, not those kind of ends you filthy pervert).
You should just learn to like it, cuz nothin' can stop us now (except filthy rich democrat trustfund 8th graders w/ windfall bailout cash). - coheedcollapse, on 11/14/2008, -25/+79Wait, so you're comparing Obama to Hitler and the kids to passive Germans because they were swept up in the exact same High School mentality that plagues areas across the nation on many, many, subjects?
I mean dear god, just about anyone who liked something that the general populous didn't got this ***** from high school. it has nothing to do with Obama's policy and the policy of people who believe in it and much more to do with the immaturity of High Schoolers. - JohnReb, on 11/13/2008, -9/+58Actually, the key sentence from the article, is the one that shows it wasn't just the students, who being children in middle school we would expect to be less than fully tplerant, but also teachers who should be avoiding at all costs being partisan in front of the children.
FTA: "But students weren't the only ones surprised that she wore a shirt supporting McCain.
"In one class, I had one teacher say she will not judge me for my choice, but that she was surprised that I supported McCain," Catherine said." - stormbringer005, on 11/13/2008, -52/+100This is just another example of the "peace, love and grooviness" left. Free speech and all, except when it's something they don't like. I know people who have had their McCain materials stolen, and one was actually afraid to put a McCain sticker on her car for fear of vandalism.
I remember in the 2004 election, people had their GWB-stickered cars vandalized, and were even followed into parking lots and told off by Kerry supporters. Yeah, tolerance. I'm tired of being lectured that we all have to be tolerant by people that lie about doing it themselves. - Bith8654, on 11/13/2008, -8/+54Ok what kind of backward world are you living in? People care what the Roman Catholic Church thinks because they are spending large amounts of money to assist in the effort to strip rights away from people. No one is forcing you to accept their ideology, they are just saying you need to tolerate it because that is what America is about. You act like all church is doing is saying "we don't agree with homosexuality" when in reality not only do they not agree with it, they are trying (and succeeded in many cases) to push through legislation so that the government won't agree with it as well. They are using their power and political standing to pursue an agenda that infringes on the rights of others.
By your logic, if racists were trying to pass laws to discriminate between skin color, we shouldn't fight it because that would be "forcing our ideologies onto others." - nelliemae, on 11/13/2008, -14/+58It is my understanding that the reply/comment features on this site was designed to enable members to comment on an article, not for people to use to make personal attacks on other members. Please show some class and keep it civil.
- CaptCarrot, on 11/13/2008, -1/+44Most chilling to me was that the students who *did* like her McCain shirt had to express their like in hidden whispers. Kids have a canny sense of their environment.
- freehunter, on 11/14/2008, -2/+43@fasda
you accidentally the whole thing? - whahaa, on 11/14/2008, -2/+43i accidentally the fallacy.
- wishninja, on 11/13/2008, -17/+58Try going to school as a atheist.
- johnyaya137, on 11/13/2008, -14/+54As if! Allowing people with common sense to teach? You're kidding, right? They might teach some student to think for himself, then we'd lose that precious snowflake to the ***** crowd!
But seriously, grading the statistics exam I gave last week was enough to convince me once again that common sense is dead, and the schools helped kill it. They indoctrinate the students into liberal group-think, teach them that reasoning is evil, and then wonder why people like me have to give them F's. In a class of over 40, the only students who passed my exam were the guy from China and the older student who graduated in the 1980s. Most of the rest are unteachable. I believe that their intolerance derives from the same habits of mind that make them unteachable. It's too hard to think, so condemn the outsider instead. - Ayrleig, on 11/13/2008, -12/+50She may have parents who have brought her to a church that does not spew antipathy toward America and white people.
- darthjure, on 11/14/2008, -1/+38Why did it take until the 7th comment for someone to actually say something good about this girl? She's brilliant! Very insightful for her age - or any age. Way to go Catherine!
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -35/+71Public schooling does endlessly preach liberalism, so that makes sense. If they stuck to basics --- english, math, instead of social indocrination, it would be much better.
That is why I send my daughters to Bais Yaakov. - scareyShadow, on 11/13/2008, -4/+39Smart girl. Interesting insight into free speech. Question I have is... are these middle school students vastly different in attitude from their parents or is this an unbiased view of peoples political attitudes.
- Bith8654, on 11/13/2008, -2/+37You don't need to be an atheist to understand the importance of separation between church and state.
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+35Grammar and spelling are fairly easy on a computer.
- Nattybumpoe, on 11/14/2008, -5/+39I love how this story is being used - exactly for the purpose it was condemning. You are all trying to find some argumentative immunity by showing that your side is the right one. Here's the thing: there is no argumentative immunity anywhere!
Here is what the story was about - since most of you people obviously didn't read it. It is that even people who claim to be progressive, claim to be open-minded, can be just the opposite. This country has such a cleavage between people on the right and people on the left - it's disgusting.
Yes, I supported Obama, but I listened to a conservative at my departmental ceremony (political science - how ironic) for my liberal college graduation ceremony when he said "don't make political differences personal differences."
Maybe liberals could cram that sort of advice down their throats. And you conservatives are no better. For the past eight ***** years all I heard was liberal = demon = unpatriotic = stupid. Grow up! - internetcoward, on 11/14/2008, -5/+38I was a 'liberal' living in the South and the experience I had completely negates what you said. I was constantly spoken to about my devilish atheistic views and told I was going to hell weekly if not daily. I was told how art, i was helping with a mural for a kids bike collective, was 'for *****' and how peopel from the North '***** suck balls' so all I have to say is that conservatives make sweeping judgements and are just as assertive and demeaning with their beliefs. You can't go by groups you can only go by individuals... and you should think more critically for an engineer... if you are one.
- DreadPirate, on 11/13/2008, -17/+48obeythefist - that might be the case if this was limited to middle school. However, the Star Tribune has a story about how a college student ended up in the hospital for the crime of wearing a McCain/Palin button on election night.
See http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/34305774 ... for more information. - lisaawesome, on 11/14/2008, -0/+30I was helping grade these reflection papers for a high school teacher, and they were absolutely awful. What made me really sad was that the papers from foreign students were actually more coherent than those from the native english speakers. I even found blatant plagiarism in many of the papers and tracked articles they were taken from in a quick google search. The teacher told me she is no longer allowed to give automatic 0s for plagiarism because she was told by the principal that the kids don't know any better. At that moment I wanted to cry. No wonder they're idiots. No one expects anything from them.
- lonelymiddle1, on 11/13/2008, -24/+54Why care what "libertines" think if you aren't a liberal? Why don't you just laugh at them instead of branding them as intolerant? Your own logic on a platter.
- Zong, on 11/13/2008, -10/+40You making this into a Liberal vs Conservative issue. You think we want to force our ideology on you? Banning Gay Marriage is forcing your ideology onto gay people. Allowing the bible in school is forcing your religious beliefs on those students.I really don't care what religions do in the privacy of their own homes and houses of worship or even private business. Its when those ideologies are then forced on to the rest of us. Tolerance is about letting people live their lives, weather that means gay marriage, or abortion or any other social issue neo conservatives might be concerned with. For the past 8 years we have live on the boot of the neo conservatives who used our tax dollars as their own personal piggy banks, who have forced their will on harmless countries, and have continued to degrade our country. They are pissed, at the behavior of these people. They have seen nothing more than hate toward them, death threats, flat out lies, did you even notice how many people actually thought Obama was a Muslim terrorist bent on destroying the country. These all come from the conservatives side, so lets not start claiming the one side is holier than the other side, if both side were truly tolerant our conversations would be centered around taxes, and government spending. Not race, sex, religion or political party.
- SecureXeC, on 11/14/2008, -14/+44Every time I see someone talk about AdBlock as if it's some sort of elite ***** ability to click an install button, restart Firefox and be ad-free... I kill six kittens.
- blakecr, on 11/13/2008, -12/+41Exactly!
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -36/+64"What brain-dead teacher scolds an eighth-grader for her political affinity?"
That's what teachers do. The entire public school system is nothing more than liberal indoctrination camp.
It starts with education "professors" like Bill Ayers. They have infiltrated the education system, forcing prospective teacher to regurgitate liberal pablum in order to get their degrees. Suitably brainwashed, the teachers move on to children. - inactive, on 11/14/2008, -3/+31@fasda - I think you may have missed a few words?
- godofallcows, on 11/14/2008, -5/+31It's funny because people are taking the viewpoints of 8th graders as important.
HEY ITS JUST LIKE DIGG A BUNCH OF MIDDLE SCHOOLERS PRETENDING THEY KNOW *****.
/s - inactive, on 11/13/2008, -13/+38You're doing it wrong...
- samurimaster, on 11/14/2008, -2/+27As a high school sophomore other students acting like this is not uncommon, regardless of political affiliation, the results of this could have easily been vice-versa at another school if th students at my school are any indication of the majority . On a daily basis I see people acting far below the maturity that there age should bring, not to say that I am perfect but I do try or at least like to think I do.
- kenoshi, on 11/14/2008, -5/+30Common sense in academia...that would be a refreshing change.
I applaud her for her bravery as well...to be able to conduct a social experiment of such nature under so much hostile political zeal...just wow.
I'd be so proud if I was her father. -
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