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- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -25/+232And he served his ex-wife with divorce papers as she was recovering from cancer treatment.
The guy's a real piece of work. It's amazing the doublethink his supporters must have doesn't make their heads explode. - mikeneilson, on 10/12/2007, -35/+127Digg me down, but I find it my duty in life to say this every time Clinton/Lewinsky is brought up, since it seems like basically nobody gets it:
Bill Clinton was NOT impeached for having an extramarital affair while in office. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying before a grand jury. As far as perjury goes, the significance of what it is you are lying *about* is irrelevant. The crime was perjury (and yes, people go to jail for it, and yes, it is a big deal), NOT having an affair.
For the record, I think the whole witch-hunt against Clinton was way overdone by the republicans, and it should have never come to his testimony before a grand jury in the first place, but that does not excuse the crime of perjury. If you or I lied before a grand jury during testimony, we WOULD serve jail time. I am tired of hearing the "Bill Clinton got impeached because he got a blow-job" argument. It simply is not true. - rds260, on 10/12/2007, -10/+97donatj, the reason Gingrich resigned was not because of an affair, it was because he was accused of using a tax free organization to fund his campaign, which is illegal. He was never charged, but if he would have stayed, there would have been an ethics investigation.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -13/+99a "moral" right winger is found to be a hypocrite? it would be ironic if it weren't so commonplace.
- kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -27/+85Aren't you interested when a prominent member of the "moral" right, who was trying to nail Clinton for getting a blowjob, was having an affair at the same time?
I don't think this has anything on Ted Haggard's story, though. Until a GOP member is accused of having gay sex while on meth, Haggard remains the king of moral hypocrisies. - dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -5/+52You might want to add that there's GAY PORN within that link.
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -10/+53What, the attack on Clinton was a cynical political ploy organized by a bunch of hypocrites?!? Wow. I'm shocked. No, really. Who'd ever have guessed?!?
- fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -22/+64@iceperson
"Did Gingrich lie under oath during a trial in which he was accused of violating someone's civil rights?"
Neither did Clinton. If you are implying that Clinton was on trial, who was the presiding judge? Who served on the jury? Which court system handled this supposed "trial"? How did clinton plea? Guilty? Not guilty? Nolo contendere?
Yours is typical of the ***** being spread by the far right. Ken Starr was supposed to be leading a probe into the legality of Clinton's involvement with the Whitewater Development Corporation, a (roughly) 15 year old failed land deal in which all of the partners, including the Clintons, lost money. Care to explain how Bill Clinton's consensual sex with Monica Lewinsky was relevant to a failed land deal over a decade earlier? Or how bad investing in a land deal violates someone's civil rights? Ken Starr had gone off on every tangent possible in an attempt to smear Clinton -- at the behest of the far right. His questions about Clinton's extramarital affairs were improper and, believe it or not, Clinton is not the first married man to ever lie about an affair. Just ask Gingrich.
By the way, the conclusion of that probe: "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct." - donatj, on 10/12/2007, -36/+75This isn't news, I heard about this DURRING the Clinton thing... If you all remember, its why Gingrich resigned as speaker of the House. Where the hell have you people been?
- PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -22/+58this is impossible, this is conduct very unbecoming of a christian. this is a liberal conspiracy. Whats next, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter taking their pictures with a gay porn star?
oh...wait....
http://tombacchus.blogspot.com/2007/03/dirty-sanchez.html - thefirelane, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42"What an ass, some of the tickets were for parking in a bus stop. Screw all the poor commoners that have to take the bus, my car is more important."
No offense... but people always drag up "the worst" of someone's past when they run for president. Considering this and the fox "he's a smoker, what else isn't he telling you?" campaign... I'm actually starting to think he's a good guy if this is all anyone can find. - RaistlinMajere, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38NSFW!!!
Damnit! You're trying to turn us gay!!! - interg12, on 10/12/2007, -11/+42Dugg, because the title has a pun (sort of), and because it's the latest and greatest example of obtuse irony in the news. hooray irony!
- bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36@thefirelane, unfortunately no, that is not the case. Ken Starr's mission was to find a way to nail Clinton on the land deal down in Arkansas. When that failed, they had nothing else they could do accept admit defeat, until Linda Tripp voilated Federal WireTapping Laws and they used the illegally obtained evidence to go after Billy boy for a BJ. Of course he lied about an affair, who doesn't that isn't looking for a divorce and a default alimony judgment against them.
To impeach Clinton for lying about an affair was a pathetic shot in the dark, and HUGE waste of tax payers money. - Keach, on 10/12/2007, -13/+41"he was accused of using a tax free organization to fund his campaign"
The details of which can be found here:
http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm#draft - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33Don't forget that Rummy helped get them their reactors too.
You can't believe a single word these guys say. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+42Clinton brokered a deal with North Korea that would keep them from building any nukes. Newt and his buddies nixed the deal, ad North Korea built nukes. Then, ten years later, BushCo. gets the same deal from the North Koreans, except that now North Korea has nukes.
Newt's marital affairs are the least problem we have with this guy! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+39DISGRACED REPUBLICAN HYPOCRITES
Lemme tell you about Republican "Family Values"
• Newt Gingrich: served divorce papers to his former wife while she was recovering from CANCER surgery. Uh, good ol' "compassionate conservatism," right?
• Bill Bennett: the rightwing pointman on "morality" is an admitted GAMBLING ADDICT.
• Rush Limbaugh: noisy rightwing infotainer who was BUSTED for his addiction to OxyContin, otherwise known as HILLBILLY HEROIN.
• Bill O'Reilly: rightwing infotainer known for his noisy proclamations of morality and personal responsibility. Accused of sexually harrassing his producer....while yanking his crank on the telephone. Oh, Bill's married TOO. - EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -12/+34"Newt Gingrich acknowledged he was having an extramarital"
ewe... - Jagula, on 10/12/2007, -12/+33"Nobody died when Clinton lied."
- luther70, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Cost to investigate Clinton over Whitewater 80 million. results: Man caught cheating on his wife.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/20/whitewater/index.html
Cost to investigate the leak of a undercover CIA agent 1.4 Million
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601964.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26thefirelane:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was always under the impression the Lewinsky thing was important due to his other sexual harassment lawsuits.
Okay, you're wrong. The Republicans found a woman to accuse Clinton of sexual harrassment, after she, in court, stated that he hadn't sexually harassed her. They found another one but she turned out to be insane.
Bush was accused of raping a man AND his wife -- did you know that? The only difference is the Democrats didn't try to play this as if it was anything more than the rantings of a crazy lady. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+27I don't care about Gingrich's affair. I care about him stalling the approval of the federal budget during the Clinton administration, which stopped the federal government cold for months...furloughing workers for months at a time and leaving mountains of work undone.
Why did he do it?
Clinton, he and some other officials shared a plane ride. He had to sit in the back of the plane away from everyone else, he felt snubbed, and he wanted to get even.
He admitted this publicly.
At least he is honest, but if Gingrich is looking to make a comeback I want to make sure he has an emotional age beyond adolescence. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22""ok... so you can name 4 supposed examples (albeit arguable ones at that) of conservatives doing various "non-conservative" things.""
Heres a few more Republicans to spend eternity with;
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. * Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. * Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. * Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.* Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. * Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.* Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. * Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
http://www.armchairsubversive.com
Talk about taking a break from reality, Republicans take the prize! Which is why they should never be allowed anywhere near the seat of Gov't or anywhere near our CHILDREN!!!
These psychopaths belong in the Looney bin! - Keach, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20TO WHOM HE SHOULD HAVE SAID "NONE OF YOUR ***** BUSINESS!" IT WAS ALL A WITCH HUNT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORGET IT, EVER.
- smoothmedia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15So something tells me Newt isn't going to run in 08
- kurotenshi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17I love those family values...
- greenerthan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Ther real news story is, someone wanted to have sex with newt gingrich?
- raitchison, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@thefirelane that's pretty much it.
The trouble started for Clinton when Paula Jones lawyers deposed Clinton as part of her sexual harassment suit against him, they were trying to show that he has a history of having relationships with people under him while in public office. When they asked him about Lewinsky he knew they had him busted or they wouldn't have asked.
Had he simply acknowledged what he had done with Lewinsky it would have been a minor news story/scandal (after all the whole country already knew he couldn't keep his dick in his pants and frankly few people cared) and it would have been the end of it, but instead he took the stupid choice, lied about it, committed perjury and ended up eventually getting himself impeached.
He also probably (though not guaranteed) could have gotten himself out of it but coming clean when the investigation started, but instead he kept lying (including hiding behind half-truths, legalese and the definition of the word "is") and getting himself further and further into trouble. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+22mike:
>Bill Clinton was NOT impeached for having an extramarital affair while in office. Bill Clinton was impeached for lying before a grand jury. As far as perjury goes, the significance of what it is you are lying *about* is irrelevant. The crime was perjury (and yes, people go to jail for it, and yes, it is a big deal), NOT having an affair.
You're wrong. Actually he was acquitted of perjury by a 55 to 45 vote. He simply was not convicted of perjuring himself because he chose his words, very very carefully.
And no, it wasn't a big deal. - NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -14/+22Of course, the issue for which Clinton was impeached was perjury, not the affair itself. Getting laid is legal. Lying under oath is not.
-jcr - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16"Okay, you're wrong. The Republicans found a woman to accuse Clinton of sexual harrassment, after she, in court, stated that he hadn't sexually harassed her. They found another one but she turned out to be insane"
Is that why Clinton paid her hush money to the tune of $850,000? - Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Ask Clinton about that one.
- lombard, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18Let's see, the Republican right -- adulterers, pedophiles, drug addicts, takers of bribes, perjurers -- well the list goes on doesn't it. Not that they are different from the Democrats, except that they are the self-proclaimed Real Americans with real family values which they believe they should decide for you.
- the6thReplicant, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11moral relativism my ass
this idea of making the other side sound soooo bad that anything you say is just sweets and roses is getting me down
what you're really saying is that liberals have no morals, so therefor anyone who isn't a liberal must be better
what you don't do is give examples, which is what we have been doing with the current administration - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19Hey if thats you Newt, take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical ***** and shove it up your ass!
- np374, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11***** right-wing hypocrites!
- Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@joclime
Yeah Clitnon looked straight into the camera and lied to every one of us. It let everyone down, but was it really that upseting and unnevring? He lied to cover his ass over perosnal issues that had been brought up in a totally seperate inventigation (white water gate)
Despite that flaw, do you argue that Bush does not lie to the america people. Are you willing to argue that bush has not lied to us and that there is absolutely no consequences of his lying?
Clinton lied, and it exposed himself a some dark, twisted, sexual deviant who has sex for reasons other than just procreation (gasp!)
Bush lied, and 2 wars later, 3,000 us soldiers dead, and no end in sight. - growler1, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15And all this time I thought he was just having an affair with Jerry Falwell.
- AZTriGuy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Hello, Kettle? Meet Pot. He says you're black.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It was Strom Thurmond, he was a white racist who also gave the longest filibuster conducted by a sole senator, he did it to halt anti-racism legislation, and I believe he did it in the mid to late forties. The woman who he paid for having his illegitimate child was a former black maid he had employed.
- Luigi30, on 10/12/2007, -15/+21Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Gingrich: "I did and it was great!" - terrachronos, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Gotta love those good ol moral christian family values!
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Interesting-there have always been rumors about Gingrich's affairs (including one with a staffer), but they were never substantiated, and scoffed at as misdirection by the Conservatives. Now Gingrich himself has admitted it? He MUST be running for President :p
- rodzilla, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7A stiff dick has no conscience
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Much like with Clinton, I dont care.
- helpingfriendly, on 10/12/2007, -14/+19For the thousandth time, Clinton was not in trouble for getting a blowjob, he was in trouble for LYING TO A GRAND JURY ABOUT GETTING A BLOWJOB.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6newt wasn't hauled in up into the national spotlight and asked under oath, nor should he have been. neither should have clinton.
- jlawson1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6dugg, for the title alone...."Clinton probe"....lol
- Hendo, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15I don't recall Gingrich preaching on family values so much. Can you give an example?
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