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- canewediggit, on 03/12/2008, -4/+168i don't think what she said was racist, just stupid. i'm surprised no one has bothered to ask her where hillary would be if she was a man. she wouldn't have all that white house "experience" and she certainly wouldn't win anything after crying. does anyone think that would be acceptable coming from a man trying to be c-in-c?
does obama get some extra support because he's black? sure. has he dealth with extra bs because he's black? sure. but if being black was all it took, jesse jackson would have been president already. - matt70, on 03/12/2008, -16/+124"I really think they're attacking me because I'm white."
No Ms. Ferraro, you're being attacked because you are trying to imply that Obama is benefiting from some sort of electoral affirmative action. I grew up in PA and know that when people are down on their luck, they sometimes look for a scapegoat (we all know Hillary has done this repeatedly). I also know that at times throughout history, that scapegoat has been the Jew, the African-American, the Catholic, the Native American, the Irish, the Mexican immigrant, etc, etc. You are being attacked because you are attempting to play on that most basic and fundamental fear. You are trying to make voters think of Barack Obama as a "quota" rather than a serious candidate who has earned his way, while simultaneously claiming that Hillary is not winning because of sexism. Our country needs now more than ever to heal these divisions. When petty people like you choose to reopen old wounds to get some votes, it makes us angry. That Ms Ferraro is why you are being attacked. - cutlerite, on 03/12/2008, -0/+67Would Clinton be in this position if it weren't for her husband?
- IrishJoe, on 03/12/2008, -4/+60"In all honesty, do you think that if he were a white male, there would be a reason for the black community to get excited for a historic first?" Ferraro said. "Am I pointing out something that doesn't exist?"
Yes, you are. There have been other black men who ran for president: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton even Alan Keyes, but none have made it to become the lead candidate before Obama. In fact it turns out that back in 1988 Ferraro said "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race." Ferraro now claims that she's not a racist, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...she's either a racist or a moron. - steelersfan7roe, on 03/12/2008, -4/+5743 white male presidents.... And being a black man named Barack obama is a winning strategy?
- jforjools, on 03/12/2008, -18/+69I'm starting to see a pattern:
Bill Clinton--makes racist statement.
Hillary--DOES NOTHING.
Gov. Rendell--makes racist statement.
Hillary--DOES NOTHING.
Gloria Steinem--makes racist statement.
Hillary--DOES NOTHING.
Geraldine Ferraro--makes racist statement.
Hillary--DOES NOTHING.
The response to ALL of these MONSTROSITIES should be:
DENOUNCE & REJECT.
Yet to all of them:
HILLARY DOES NOTHING.
The LACK of action, along with the pattern shown, equals ABSOLUTE COMPLICITY BY HRC. - chicoer2001, on 03/12/2008, -11/+56If Obama was white, the he'd win the nomination by now and he'd win in a landslide in November.
- jbdobd, on 03/12/2008, -2/+41Of course, now its out that she said the same thing about Jesse Jackson in 1988 too: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ferraro_said_the ...
- rocketman42, on 03/12/2008, -3/+34And yet Clinton still hasn't removed her from the campaign. Apparently making sexist and racist remarks is more acceptable than calling someone a "monster".
- kwazyhulk, on 03/12/2008, -2/+28Nice to see Hillary uniting all the monsters...
- fadeout, on 03/12/2008, -1/+23Yes, he's clearly only winning by taking huge black enclaves like Iowa, Wyoming and Wisconsin.
- minoss, on 03/12/2008, -2/+20Pretty much what I was thinking. Sure, Obama is benefiting from higher black voter turnout that is excited about the prospect of a black president. The same could be said of Hillary with women as well. Plus, it doesn't exactly hurt to get the extra media exposure of being a former first lady. However, none of these issues alone are enough to win a presidency. And the thought of bringing them up is done merely to cast doubt on a candidate by implying its the only or main reason for their current popularity. Its a trashy political driven move and should be called out as such.
- hellshark, on 03/12/2008, -0/+17Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clinton very recently have a very significant portion african-americans supporting her. Blacks didn't jump on the Obama wagon as soon as he hit the scene. They have slowly moved over to his side. Maybe it has to do with the way she campaigns. Maybe it has to do with the way the Clinton campaign has used race to try to marginalize Obama as the "black candidate" (think Bill Clintons remarks in South Carolina)
- cquinnd, on 03/12/2008, -2/+18>> Obama has a huge advantage in the MSM because he's black.
No, Obama has a huge advantage in the MSM because, despite being black, he has fairly consistently presented himself in a way that appeals to the general base regardless of race, creed or color. And has maintained that consistency thru his current senate career and campaign.
You seem to have missed the early stages of the campaign where Obama was painted as less likely a candidate compared to Edwards and some of the early front runners. - brokencode, on 03/12/2008, -1/+17She just resigned. Good riddance!
- beakerwimp, on 03/12/2008, -1/+14I don't think she gets it. Her comments are mainly offensive for one concrete reason that has nothing to do with racism. Putting knee-jerk accusations of racism aside, people (myself included) are bothered by the tone and implication of her comment. She is implying that Obama's campaign is not being judged on its merits and instead is being judged (beneficially) on some other set of criteria. Within the context of a debate this sort of implication normally comes off as rather childish. It did this time. She complains about the focus not being on the issues as she herself raises the issue of race in a vague manner. I don't think she gets how lame this looks to objective 3rd parties. Adding insult to injury, she lacks the personal integrity to bow out of such a mistake with some class. An apology (see: Obama's "monster" advisor), or at least a semi-conciliatory statement, goes a long way in situations like these.
- dunderballer, on 03/12/2008, -1/+14In the end, there will be some people who vote for Obama because he is black, Clinton because she is a woman, Obama because his opponent is a woman, or Clinton because her opponent is black. Who knows which factor is an advantage and which is a disadvantage. It is not constructive to attempt to determine whether sexism or racism is a more influential factor because it only makes the campaign more about race or gender. Let's not play the pointing fingers back and forth game and focus simply on the qualifications of the candidates. We still have not had full disclosure about the quality and depth of experience of either candidate.
- 0xception, on 03/12/2008, -1/+14how many men are voting against clinton because she's a woman? how many whites are voting against obama be he's black? how many people are voting for clinton just because they recognize the name? also consider the ratio of black voters to women voters... i'm sure you'll see that the 6 to 10 vastly out weights the 9 to 1 black votes.
All these statistics are kinda silly without decent context. the fact of the matter is, both of these candidates are getting a boost from their respective groups, both are getting attacked from their respective group's opposition. so it really just comes down to the individual... if you want to have a pissing contest over who's more fortunate to be a minority that's fine, but do it out back of the bar and let the rest of us drink our drinks in peace... - petebot, on 03/12/2008, -1/+13I agree with your content, but disagree with your caps lock.
- quiksliver, on 03/12/2008, -6/+18there are currently 16 female serving senators, for all you math geniuses, thats 16% of the senate. There have only been THREE count em, THREE black senators in THE ENTIRE HISTORY of the United States, and only ONE currently serving, 1% of the senate i think you know him, some kid named Barack Obama.
Tell me Ms. Ferraro, which group is less represented in the senate? I am not saying that is the perfect sample, but it shows that white women like to complain and whine and bitch and moan and inequality when all they have to do is choke on a dick to get a promotion while (straight) black men don't have that luxury - argaen21, on 03/12/2008, -2/+13Anyone else find it funny that she is saying sexism is a bigger problem than racism yet she supports the candidate whose husband is known for being one the most sexist people in the world?
- elipabst, on 03/12/2008, -1/+11If Al Gore or John Kerry had a quarter of the personality and speaking skills that Obama has, he'd be President right now.
- allengeer, on 03/12/2008, -4/+13Saying that someone is where they are because they are black is racist. There is no way around it. You are discounting everything that person has worked for and discounting all those that support their views and beliefs as a mere fancy of the color of their skin.
When you say this you are saying that the color of their skin is far more important than the policies, charisma, and potential a candidate possesses.
Furthermore, I don't believe you can say with any sort of assurance that a candidate with a similar message, a similar background, and a similar ability to inspire wouldn't be in the same position. - julianwan, on 03/12/2008, -0/+9Hillary needs to do more than denounce and reject in this situation, she needs to condemn and discredit.
- Charlatan22, on 03/12/2008, -0/+9I wouldn't quite go with MONSTROCITY, but nice sensationalism anywho.
- harriman714, on 03/12/2008, -1/+10someone should ask Bill where he would be if Hillary were a man
- NoDrama, on 03/12/2008, -0/+8Ms. Ferraro has gone "all in" on behalf of the Clinton campaign. To expect less of her would be a form of "false hope" frankly. Is there a diplomatic solution that enables democrats to move forward? Yes, it's already in progress - it's called Obama. His inclusive, mature rebuilding of the ailing party is their best hope for the future. http://obamesque.wordpress.com/2008/03/12/obamas-l ...
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -1/+9I asked my neighbors and have decided that you are a queer.
- canewediggit, on 03/12/2008, -5/+13http://digg.com/business_finance/The_Face_of_Black ... - submitted by Ell3
ban this piece of ***** racist bitch, i don't care how cute her lilly-white smile is. ***** you. you know why 50% of murders are committed by blacks? because piles of dung like you have been making every effort you can for the last 200+ years that they don't get an equal shot at the american dream. - stubarwick, on 03/12/2008, -1/+9I don't know about everyone else... but Obama's skin tone in no way influences my support for him.
- cquinnd, on 03/12/2008, -1/+8How much of Mississippi did Bill Clinton get back in the 90s?
- mustbepatient, on 03/12/2008, -0/+7It bothers me that people are voting for Obama based on his race, but it is just as obvious that many white women, especially older white women, are voting for Clintion because of her gender. What strikes me as oddest about Ferraro's comments is the hypocrisy.
- vervalsing, on 03/12/2008, -0/+7While I think it's great that Hillary Clinton is giving employment opportunities to those with "special needs" in her campaign, I really think it's kind of a bad decision on her part.
- wacomwacoff, on 03/12/2008, -0/+6I loved that quote from Obama. "Being an African-American named Barack Obama isn't exactly a winning strategy" is the perfect comeback to an asinine comment.
- allengeer, on 03/12/2008, -3/+9Thats different than saying "he wouldn't be in this position if he weren't black".
- zspade, on 03/12/2008, -2/+8I think suziewang3000 was trying to emphasize just how many negatives Barack has going against him. His name, due to the unfortunate ignorance of the populace, is definitely not a positive for him.
- Klydethegreater, on 03/12/2008, -1/+7She's made comments like this all her life. She didn't have the nickname "Archie Bunker's Congresswoman" for nothing.
- petebot, on 03/12/2008, -1/+7Barack Hussein Obama 2008! You said it sister! Let's take down Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Sidney McCain!!
- Mejari, on 03/12/2008, -0/+5Appealing strongly is a lot different than "affirmative action" Affirmative action implies gaining benefits because some other race feels guilty, wheras Obama is doing well because his message resonates. I doubt many people go to the polls and go "I feel bad for slavery, so I'll vote for the black guy"
- Asterra2, on 03/12/2008, -1/+6Friend, maybe you haven't been around long, but I'm here to point out the color of the sky: Hillary is very widely disliked. This is a major factor in Obama's popularity. Why is she disliked? Her unrepentant lack of honesty is telltale, for one. And people contrast this with Obama's record, vis-a-vis tax records and special interest money. Do you say that these factors are immaterial? If so, I return you to your world of self-delusional racist apologism.
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -3/+8God, I looked at this chick's profile and she has submitted some really racist tripe. I think there's some Redneck white guy behind this profile though. Who in their right mind would submit their actual picture on Digg and submit racist articles? Someone at her job could easily use this against her. It would mean she would never be placed in a management position. Corporations can't afford to run afoul of federal laws and open themselves up to EEOC lawsuits. Hiring this girl would make them risk that. She could never become a lawyer or judge, because the Bar requires lawyers to be impartial concerning race (Don't believe me, look up what happened to Matthew Hale). She was absolutely be destroyed if someone linked to her profile on Digg.
So, it's likely some obnoxious guy trying to yank people's chain with this profile. Don't believe the hype. Lots of Diggers are *****. More than likely this picture is of the user's ex-girlfriend and he's trying to get her in trouble. - argaen21, on 03/12/2008, -0/+5Well, fwiw, I grew up in Hawaii and got beat up all the time just for being white. So ya, there are hate crimes against white people.
- soil, on 03/12/2008, -1/+6I'm not sure you know anything about Alan Keyes.
- Pilot85, on 03/12/2008, -0/+5I won't try and deny race may have had something to do with this candidacy. But, he gets votes consistently, across the board, and a large portion of black voters were with the clinton camp at the start of the race. Like it was stated above, if being black was all it took, Jesse Jackson would have been a front runner. Come to think of it, so would Sharpton (God forbid). Clinton gets a bump from women, Obama gets a bump from Blacks, and then the Ferraro bitches about it being unfair. It's hypocritical, and in the end, not the deciding factor in who will win this race.
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -5/+10"Obama is benefiting from some sort of electoral affirmative action"
Well, he is. Not saying it's a bad thing, but his race and his cultural origins do appeal strongly to a lot of people and make him stand out from the crowd. Just like Hillary being a woman. It might not get you a vote, lock-stock-and-barrel, but it's enough to get people to take a closer look when they might not otherwise.
There are also a lot of people - including a Republican I spoke to today - who thinks that electing a black president would accomplish a lot of racial healing. I disagree with him, but surely there are some in the D primary for whom, in the preponderance of considerations, pushed them towards O. - inactive, on 03/12/2008, -1/+6Yes, I can see that women have reached true equality. Because while they complain and whine and bitch and moan, all they have to do is choke on a dick. Finally, sexism and misogyny are dead, and it is smooth sailing from here on out.
- jackspade, on 03/12/2008, -1/+6does anyone give a rats ass what this dried up bag has to say?
- Gerz1219, on 03/12/2008, -0/+5Yeah, but how many whites are voting *against* Obama just because he's black, or voting for Clinton because she's white? There's no simple answer to this question, but it's worth noting that compared to previous one-on-one matchups, the racial divide was much larger in Mississippi, which has long had a reputation for being a little behind the curve when it comes to race relations. Obama has won the white vote and the woman vote in other contests, but aside from those outliers, this primary season has also broken down along the lines of age, income, education, and geographical location. And Hillary has had many broad advantages in this race that have nothing to do with her having a vagina, such as, you know, being married to a former president and living in the national spotlight for 15 years. Too many factors at play to just say "race trumps gender" and leave it at that.
- jaxter2010, on 06/17/2009, -2/+7I give her credit for at least defending her statement, rather than changing her story and trying to weasel out of it saying it was a misunderstanding, like a lot of politicians would do.
- enclaved, on 03/13/2008, -0/+4shut the ***** up already.
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