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- theNazz, on 04/30/2008, -3/+228There has been zero accountability from this law breaking administration and it looks like that trend will continue. Put the White House and Pentagon under one of those federal SOX reviews and they would all end up in jail.
- ode1085, on 04/30/2008, -3/+153- I work in IT in the investment banking industry and if we pulled something like this, our ass is sacked.
- The kid down your street who helps old ladies with their computers wouldn't have developed such a ridiculously asinine system that the white house is claiming they used.
- Their explanations and excuses hold less water than the Atacama desert
THIS IS A CRIME - curtissthompson, on 04/30/2008, -2/+121No the American public is waiting for Bush to get involved in a sex scandal before they'll be willing to impeach him.
- Delphium226, on 04/30/2008, -2/+120Is it just me or is the administration being shown a lot of leniency on this? If I break the law, I don't get to make excuses and blame others, I pay the price.
Start the goddamn proceedings already. - EricMiIIer, 5 hr 51 min ago, -0/+96American's have been calling for trials and impeachments for years now. Writing millions of letters, filling thousands of petitions, and millions of citizens protesting in the streets. And look at where it has gotten us, ignored. The gap between our government and its people has become too great.
Now we find ourselves slaves to the machine we created. The dollar is worth practically nothing globally. Many third world countries that survived on the US Dollar for decades will no longer accept it for payment. OPEC now requires all payments for oil in EUROS.
The housing bubble popped due to unfair lending practices. When aid is needed the most, the government bails out the banks that made billions off the blood deals they drafted instead of helping the people who cant keep a dry roof over their head.
With the economy goes employment. What jobs that have not been shipped over seas are cutting back due to increasing costs of production
Diesel recently crossed the Four Dollar per gallon mark here in Omaha. We by no means have it bad compared to other parts of the country. As fuel prices increase so does the cost of living.
Our founding fathers would be rolling over in their grave if they saw how complacent Americans have become. An elitist group rules and the constitution and the freedoms it provides have been replaced with the patriot act and false security.
At this point only time can tell what will be written in the history books fifty years from now. "The Day America Became a Monarchy" or "The Second American Revolution". The line is quickly becoming visible in the sand, and time will soon come when Americans will have to choose which side of it they stand on. - zippychik, on 04/30/2008, -5/+96Yet another case for the impeachment that will never happen. And another example of the Bush administration blatantly breaking the law.
- Heysal, on 04/30/2008, -3/+62What we should do about it? We have petitioned by the millions for impeachment - guess it's time to just go in and pull him and his buds out at gun point.
- tomas472, on 04/30/2008, -2/+52This sort of unlawful action by an administration is NOT what I fought to preserve so many years ago. :o(
Any number of actions begun or blessed by this president have been the sort of thing that would get an ordinary citizen allowed sunlight on alternate Wednesdays.
Our constitution and our laws apply to all, and that includes the politicians who temporarily work for us. We have been entirely too lax in our legitimate enforcement of those laws and ideals.
What is it we are afraid of? Why have we let this happen to this fine country? We need to ensure that this sort of scofflaw regime is never allowed into power again.
THINK, people! - mentallyinhell, on 04/30/2008, -1/+46How do you lose email? Data is like evidence. It's never lost, just destroyed.
- anonymiau, on 04/30/2008, -3/+46Hahaha, so in a country so obsessed with monitoring communication that they let customs agents seize electronics and take copies of all the files on cell phones and laptops, and intelligence agencies conduct illegal wiretapping of their population, the president gets away with "losing" email. Brilliant.
Hey, USA: you're a ***** dictatorship. Now wake up to it and do something about it... - kemp34, on 04/30/2008, -2/+34When the top executer of the law is a complete law flaunter, you have a serious problem.
- Dumbledorito, on 04/30/2008, -1/+31Let's see... we're not elected officials, and there aren't any laws that demand we turn them over for scrutiny. Actually... if BUSH wanted to read my e-mail, he'd have a far easier time of it thanks to the Constitution-shredding policies he claims are lawful.
Now please go study some history, okay? It sounds like you got yours from a pamphlet authored by Karl Rove. - Arcesius, on 04/30/2008, -0/+27***** yeah. Why the ***** do people not care that he actually outright broke the law with the warrantless wiretapping? It doesn't matter what reason he gave for it, he still broke the ***** law. Arrest the bastard.
- inajeep, on 04/30/2008, -0/+25On a side note that I have to bring up because I do Notes development, a lot of Fed agencies use Lotus Notes but it's always a battle of politically to switch to Exchange even though it would require more servers to handle the loads in comparison to Notes.
BOT: The archive system for the Exchange server was never implemented due to not being able to separate presidential evidence I mean correspondence? So it's much better than to have nothing at all?? I wonder at the decision and who influenced White House CIO, Theresa Payton. I couldn't find out her history or background.
We will never see those missing .pst files. Never. They are gone. - tnoy, on 04/30/2008, -2/+26Correction: the American GOVERNMENT lets him stay in power.
The people we vote into office have done NOTHING to try and stop this administration. - inactive, on 04/30/2008, -1/+24Lets waterboard them, its not against the law so lets try it out on them until they remember where the emails went
- GhostyBoy, on 04/30/2008, -1/+21Just make something stick. I don't care what at this point. Can you imagine trying to explain to future generations how exactly these guys got let off the hook?
- WasabiBomb, on 04/30/2008, -0/+19That's what I like about you, oldhick. Seven paragraphs of valid points, and you respond by pointing out that there's probably not millions of people who protested in the streets.
You always go for the silver lining. - kemp34, on 04/30/2008, -1/+20Well 1: "failure to preserve White House emails as required by federal law"
But in more direct relation to your question, asking someone to break the law, as far as I know, is against the law, if they perform the action. - stretch611, on 04/30/2008, -1/+18This administration believes that everything they do should be secret and that they should be allowed to spy on any individual without a warrant. They essentially think that they are above the law. How come I am not surprised to hear that they eliminated a system with proper retention and audit controls to replace it with one that everything is done manually and can be easily subverted.
- thrashertm, on 04/30/2008, -1/+17+10000
That said, I would not be at all surprised if Bush's supporters would let him "confess to Jesus" and be "granted forgiveness" from some whacko preacher. - apothekari, on 04/30/2008, -2/+17*sigh*
...but, but, Obama's preacher Mylie Cyrus...ga ga... - Genetico, on 04/30/2008, -0/+15There was, I was one of them. NYC 2004 Republican national convention.
- anonymiau, on 04/30/2008, -1/+14Oh, don't you worry, we already are. Our mails are copied and monitored by a number of institutions on government payroll. Same goes for our chats, text messages, phone conversations and every single other kind of electronic communication. If you live under the illusion that you have actual privacy you're a sheep...
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -3/+15Why do Republicans hate America?
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -5/+17Why does the White House hate our troops?
- Rotzooi, on 04/30/2008, -2/+14Because he has a deal with the Devil.
- gmiley, on 04/30/2008, -0/+11The White House losing e-mail is absolutely ridiculous. I work as a programmer for a County level government agency and we must, and DO, keep e-mail records for, if I recall correctly, 5 years (it's either 5 or 7). It isn't a difficult task with the technology we have these days, and those backups don't just get 'lost'. It would either have to be due to overwhelming, and I mean stupendously overwhelming, incompetence or an absolutely deliberate act to 'lose' e-mail records that you are, by law, required to keep.
- cadmiumpaint, on 04/30/2008, -0/+10only Democratic presidents who create a budget surplus and economic prosperity are eligible for a witch hunt er i mean impeachment.
- altgeeky1, on 04/30/2008, -0/+10you see why the right-wing so values control of the Supreme Court, who were about the only people who voted for him in the first place...
- Wargalas, on 04/30/2008, -0/+10I run a non profit company, so money is ALWAYS tight, but I can bring back an email sent 5 years ago from one of our encrypted backups that's off site. If I can do it, I fail to see why the White House can't?
Or perhaps the White House tech folks have an opening coming up? I should dust off the resume. :) - mystcnurse, on 05/01/2008, -0/+10they were not "missing". They have been hidden, lost, etc.... but for good reason. The question is what was going on during the times that these emails were "missing"? The bigger question is, why are Americans putting up with this CRAP?
- eir574, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9"What is it we are afraid of? Why have we let this happen to this fine country?"
At least in part because too many of us have been more concerned that things like homosexuality are ruining the country. - indypunx, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9Isnt it possible to be doing well for myself and still be outraged and disgusted by the president's abuse of power? Why shouldnt the president of the US be held to the same laws and regulations of all the presidents who came before him and the laws that apply to me? The ordinary citizens are guilty of swallowing this BS for too long and majority of people woke up about this WAY too late. Nothing changed, he is the same person today he was when he was elected just most people werent paying attention. Obama, Hillary, McCain, ANYONE would be an improvement over this president. Your blind acceptance of the presidents crimes and pointing blame at us for being upset speaks volumes about how much you care about the country. I personally am doing very well in my work and life but I am still ashamed of what our country has become.
- madeingermany, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9Every ***** web 2.0 startup has better backup mechanisms then manually copying emails to a PST on a server, which isn't backed up either.
The technical incompetency is unbelievable.... I take that back :p - greenm1981, on 04/30/2008, -1/+10I wouldn't call 34% of all voters calling for impeachment of Bush and 43% calling for the impeachment of Cheney very few. While that is not a simple majority, it certainly is enough to warrant public support for impeachment proceedings. You can't just make baseless claims and expect to retain any measure of credibility. Think it through.
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/impeach/ - 55mph, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9American's as a group are undereducated and easily influenced by sound bites. Since the general media is in the hands of very few, they highlight what they what us to know in an effort to influence our opinion.
The National Enquirer is running a cover story that claims Obama is a womanizer. No accountability!! - AtWorkSurfer, on 05/01/2008, -0/+8Well thank God it's a piece of paper, because if it had been a document on the White House servers it surely would have been lost by now.
- Fullvinyl, on 04/30/2008, -0/+8Because we're not federally mandated (yet) to do so?
- hambend, on 04/30/2008, -0/+8"OPEC now requires all payments for oil in EUROS."
I agree with most of what you said (and I like how you said it) but I haven't heard that one before. Do you have any links I could follow? - greenm1981, on 04/30/2008, -0/+8His emails are not his business. They are our business. Never forget that the Office of the President is one public servitude! A ***** third-grader knows that!
- kooft, on 04/30/2008, -0/+8I can't wait until the next administration 'upgrades' the email system to POP3 only. The backup and archival process will consist of individuals printing out their emails and then scanning them into electronic format and then emailing them to an archive email address.
Future President: "I don't know why emails are missing, we'll have to perform an exhaustive 8-year review of the process and get back to you on that..." - Groovydoo, on 04/30/2008, -1/+9This is called "the destruction of evidence" and it is a de facto felony. Yet George Bush has a surrogate, who has a surrogate, who has a surrogate who finds another surrogate and has that sucker "lose" all the emails and thus, as usual he gets away with whatever he wants, and some poor idiot will go to jail.
Just look at Rummsfeld and Abu Ghraib as the template for the above scenario. - CaptainTater, on 05/01/2008, -0/+8A dictatorship you say? Overthrow the government and establish a democracy? This sounds like a job for the US! Wait....
- RogerStrong, on 05/01/2008, -1/+8Which of course is impossible to believe. If you have the know-how to run a mail server - not that it takes much - you know about running even minimal backups. Losing a couple days of email is understandable, but not the whole schmeer.
For an organization like the White House or Republican Party to lose that much data in a crash, you can be certain that they made special arrangements to do so. - DreKor, on 04/30/2008, -1/+8Whacko preachers are a little out of vogue this week. He'd probably just acknowledge that there have been "difficult times" in his marriage and then blame congress for them.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 05/01/2008, -0/+7It is only plausible deniability so that they can say; "We lost the emails -- 42 times because of technical issues."
"We thought there were WMDs in Iraq. But trust us on Iran, or Syria -- because those anti-war folks don't know anything."
"We let the banking industry set it's own interest rates for home loans -- what was the worst that could happen?"
Somehow, I don't think idiots are running the Bush administration -- they seem to be getting fabulously wealthy for being dummies. They do seem to hire stupid flunkies and fire anyone who is a professional. The email system was DESIGNED so that it could never be functioning, and they started on a new system as soon as the old one was nearly working.
Plausible deniability, and the people with oversight looked the other way. Like the press talking about this as though it were a "controversy" or Bungling -- no, it is a crime. The press, is also, not that stupid and there are people who make a lot of money in front of the camera. - nextyoyoma, on 04/30/2008, -0/+7enjoy your visit from the FBI.
(I hope you don't get one, but I wouldn't be surprised) -
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