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- frankingeneral, on 06/13/2008, -21/+385This man needs to be VP...I'm convinced...
Also, was that MSNBC, or Fox News?? - meese, on 06/13/2008, -5/+264And Gen. Wesley Clark had pretty much the best title ever: "Supreme Allied Commander"
He knows what he's talking about, too. - DesignNerd, on 06/13/2008, -13/+227You do not ***** with General Wesley Clark.
That man has VP all over him. He's got loads of experience in all the right places, and he is not a *****.
He's got my preverbal vote for VP! - sweaterjon, on 06/13/2008, -10/+221I loved how they tried to continuously spin it.
What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? What about Barack Obama? - HuskyPuzzle, on 06/14/2008, -9/+210"Obama has a strategy to get us out of Iraq. McCain has a strategy to keep us in there as long as possible"
Enough said. - inactive, on 06/14/2008, -10/+165Clark has consistently opposed War in Iraq from the beginning. And as you can see from this TV appearance he's a bulldog in a fight. He comes prepared, he doesn't back down, and as a 4 Star General he is 100% credible.
For more read my article "In support of Wesley Clark for VP".
http://www.eyesonobama.com/blog/content/id_18891/t ... - skyshock1, on 06/14/2008, -10/+145I really like Wesley Clark. He was THE Democrat that could have beaten Bush easily. EASILY. But no, the idiots gave us Kerry instead. And we lost. MISERABLY.
Obama/Clark would be unstoppable. - beathermit, on 06/13/2008, -1/+123"don't you think its kind of a dangerous thing to say about a , uh some one who is a war hero P.O.W for several years this is john McCain we're talking about!?"
Really?? - hotspot102, on 06/14/2008, -6/+121I must say I was impressed by Wesley Clark's defense and articulation, he effectively derailed the straight talk express. Attacking Mccain on a issue where very few had the nerve to do so. Serving as a Naval officer and a pow does not mean you automatically inherit the ability to understand the relationships between nations, an the threats associated with them. Just as serving as a day trader doesnt automatically mean you understand he complex variables of an economy.
- T8erT0T, on 06/14/2008, -3/+98"This is John McCain we're talking about..."
Who. Gives. A. *****.
Because John McCain was a war hero means people can't criticize him or say that he doesn't know jack about when to use force or not?
Gen. Wesley Clark knows his stuff. I'd rather listen to a 4 star general talk about war strategy and what to do and what not to do than listen to some guy who got caught by the other side in Vietnam.
Just sayin'... - Ciryon, on 06/14/2008, -8/+101I like this guy.
- ogisdan, on 06/14/2008, -16/+81How dare this man speak out against a POW and a war hero? A WAR HERO!!!!
- dOOBiEx213, on 06/14/2008, -10/+66LOSE* DAMNIT, LOSE. I can understand misspelling loose, as lose...but you willfully added an extra o. YOU lose.
- 8ight, on 06/14/2008, -4/+59Ha, love the American Flag lapel pin jab at the end. Nicely done Mr. Clark.
- inactive, on 06/14/2008, -15/+65Don't attack MSNBC for trying to be objective, if they take sides and constantly attack one candidate they loose all their credibility.
- DannyDriffs, on 08/25/2008, -5/+51VEEP VEEP VEEP
- Justice101, on 06/14/2008, -0/+45pssshh...I was a Supreme Commander once too, we crushed the Aeon war machine ;-)
- Hypersapien, on 06/14/2008, -0/+35And he answered it nicely. McCain is claiming to have experience that he doesn't have. Obama is running on intelligence and good judgment, which he has proven himself to have.
- Rextion, on 06/14/2008, -3/+35How about McCain's trip to the market in Baghdad last November when he said it was just like shopping back home. He forgot to mention he had Apaches flying overhead, snipers on the rooftops, and a couple of hundred troops for security detail which he deliberately put in harm's way for his little photo op. POW or not, what *****.
- ZenMojo, on 06/14/2008, -0/+30Translation: I see your "war hero" and raise you a "Supreme Allied Commander."
God, I so want to see Kerry and Clark double-teaming John McCain. Maybe with a General Jones and Jim Webb with the steel chair on his punk ass.
And Vote Vets in the audience throwing broken bottles into the ring. These chickenhawk ***** need to go down. - Jerryskid02, on 06/14/2008, -1/+30...I got your sarcasm dude. Apparently not everyone else did.
- transitive, on 06/14/2008, -1/+29Clark isn't a Neo-Con. he's an internationalist and, unlike all of the neo-cons, is actually a member of the military.
- haiduz, on 06/14/2008, -0/+27I support Obama and I am very much against the iraq war. However, I would say he is a hero as much as any service member serving in Iraq is a hero. Anyone who suffers through the horror of war and sacrifies that much for the country is a hero.
- Eloosive, on 06/14/2008, -1/+27And notice, he didn't get fussy, frustrated, angry, or condescend to the hosts.
- carcinogen, on 06/14/2008, -5/+30That was awesome. I was just talking to a friend of mine on how Clark should be the VP pick. I wish he entered the 2004 primary season earlier, he has the "brass" in the purest form.
That, and Republicans can't paint the Democratic ticket as being "inexperienced" in terms of military leadership and prowess.
Obama/Clark 08' - digglet08, on 06/14/2008, -0/+25That horrendous comment (on the part of the anchors) was stunningly ignorant.
They made me miss Tim Russert. - giskard88, on 06/14/2008, -4/+28I like MSNBC, but unfortunately they're not objective in their editorial content, they just play both sides of the fence. In the morning we have the conservative extravaganza that is morning joe, then we swing to it's left wing mirror image with countdown in the evening. Divinging partisanship evenly does not equate to objectivity.
- mlvassallo, on 06/14/2008, -9/+33This man NEEDS to be VP!
- carcinogen, on 06/14/2008, -4/+28For all the people saying "But... Obama doesn't have military leadership either!"
Uh, that's the point. They both aren't experienced in leading the military. Barack Obama is not gloating it, falsely, though. That's a key difference.
It's like McCain claiming he can fly -- when, in fact, he cannot fly. And then everyone jumps on Obama, saying "Look- he's pointing out that McCain can't fly when he can't fly himself! What a hypocrite! He's pointing out his weakness that he's can't fly!" The whole scenario just doesn't have any real credibility and, in the end, McCain looks like the rhetorician he is. - Feep, on 06/14/2008, -1/+24Supreme Allied Commander is the title held by the most senior commander within certain multinational military alliances.
That's a pretty sweet title. You ***** dolt. - pintomp3, on 06/14/2008, -2/+25the iraqis are suffering through the same horrors and then some, through no fault of their own. i would classify both sides as victims of the decisions made by the people who start these wars.
- inactive, on 06/14/2008, -0/+22See what you did right there? That's the illusion that the nu-right has created. The idea that in order to be objective, you must present "both sides" of an issue. The problem with that paradigm is that the issues are manufactured and the "other side" is completely bankrupt of reason. They are, however, consistently able to introduce absurd ideas into common circulation by framing the debate in terms that are favorable to them. You can watch this happening in real time on Fox. One of my personal favorites is their creative use of question marks:
"Clark wrong about McCain?"
"Iran imminent threat?"
"2+2=5?"
What General Clark said was factually accurate. There is no need to provide an opposing voice in the interest of "objectivity." Ideas do not become any more or less reflective of reality by virtue of the number of people subscribing to them. - KJSatz, on 06/14/2008, -4/+26Naw, it's preverbal because he typed it before he said it out loud.
(they're listening) - robbiedo, on 06/14/2008, -2/+23McCain is no war hero. He flew a plane. He was shot down. He was captured. Survived horrible treatment by the NVA. While I feel for him, and he suffered greatly in the service of his country, it was hardly heroic. What Audie Murphy did was heroic.
There was a time I respected McCain. His ambition for the Presidency shows him to be a deeply flawed individual. Being a POW, and the concomitant psychological damage gives me serious concern in his fitness for the office.
Plus, you never call your wife a coont and a trollop. - BlennyBee, on 06/14/2008, -7/+27Obama-Clark '08....marching straight to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
- ZenMojo, on 06/14/2008, -3/+22Kerry lost by 3 percentage points. You realize, of course, that no wartime president has EVER failed to get reelection in the last 230 years. Kerry is the last person you need to blame.
- zephyear, on 06/14/2008, -4/+22clark is the absolute best pick for vp
- debuggercll, on 06/14/2008, -0/+18Never Forget.
- carcinogen, on 06/14/2008, -1/+18I think ogisdan was being sarcastic.
- HappyScrappy, on 06/14/2008, -0/+17When they asked the question the first time and he answered it clearly and accurately, that was one thing. When they come back again with the same question but with an accusatory tone, that's not just being neutral.
- MortalynFlux, on 06/14/2008, -1/+17Yeah, is this the age we live in, where a reporter can tell a retired four star general that stating his opinion is "dangerous?"
- rawg, on 06/14/2008, -0/+16Wesley Clark commanded all allied forces in the Kosovo War. He wasn't just sitting around in a base in Germany. Do some research next time you want to make a point. It'll give you more credibility.
- rawg, on 06/14/2008, -1/+16I would agree that McCain was a war hero. His personal sacrifice and treatment while being held as a prisoner of war deserves the respect and gratitude of the country that put him in harm's way.
The point that Clark made very well on the program, however, is that spending years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam does not prepare someone to lead a large military force or define military policy. I wouldn't even venture to imagine what kept McCain going while he was being held prisoner and tortured but I doubt he was learning how to organize and mobilize a large, multi-lateral military force. - DeePsix501, on 06/14/2008, -5/+19I love how people hear what they want to hear. Somehow POW = Strong Foreign Policy. Wesley Clark is a brillliant man and has a great head on his shoulders. His class rank at the Naval Academy reflects this. I would pick for VP any day because he slaps McCain across the face and gives Obama that supposed missing foreign policy experience.
- Aero347, on 06/14/2008, -1/+14Hopefully as a last resort, and not a maverick's stunt.
- carcinogen, on 06/14/2008, -1/+14Supreme Allied Commander. Four Star General.
Yeah, what does a liberal like Clark know about the military.
Dumbass. - mcool119, on 06/14/2008, -4/+17Proverbial?
- fubar109, on 06/14/2008, -1/+13WOOSH
- glibpaxman, on 06/14/2008, -5/+17where was that wesley clark back in 2004? id much rather we'd had him instead of these clowns still hell bent on starting a war with Iran, but Obama-Clark 08 looks like a no brainer. game. set. match.
p.s. who chose that bowie song as the lead in? there were no young americans connected with the discussion at all. in fact, quite the opposite. -
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