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- supernovasky, on 04/15/2008, -14/+119He quite simply CANNOT be swiftboated. I've never seen a candidate that has the aibity to withstand so much political heat. He's turned EVERY "campaign killer" into a campaign booster so far.
Why is this?
I really believe it is because, for the first time in decades, we've got an honest presidential candidate. He's GENUINE. - PATSCRU, on 04/15/2008, -5/+35Couldn't agree more...he's standing tall in the face of traditional political mudslinging because he uses a completely non-traditional political weapon: honesty.
- kynn, on 04/15/2008, -5/+33I hope that the meme of Hillary Clinton as Wile E. Coyote catches on...
- Debmood, on 04/15/2008, -4/+25The people in PA are not stupid people. They understood exactly what Barack Obama was saying. As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton said the same thing when he was running for President. Small towns all over this country are bitter and angry because the jobs left them behind and the old politicians came in with promise after promise. The small towns and big towns are suffering due to the economy and the funding of the Iraq war. We're mad as hell...just a tad bit more than bitter. Bitter is mild.
- tomgsmyth, on 04/15/2008, -4/+22by the looks of your profile, you are the only spam here.
- TheWorm, on 04/15/2008, -4/+20What a coincidence. I clicked the bury button next to your name.
- verevi, on 04/15/2008, -2/+14You sound bitter.
- staticneuron, on 04/15/2008, -0/+11Darn that reality, always trying to mess up our mojo. Don't worry p0s3r! We can defeat reality if we just focus hard enough.
- dBass, on 04/15/2008, -11/+22PA voters and the rest of America aren't as stupid as McClinton thinks they are. MSM would just love to create a controversy to generate viewers and ad money. And oh yea, eliminating the ONLY real change candidate would be like gravy on top.
PA, please end this tragedy! - busket, on 04/15/2008, -1/+12What does that mean? Neo-stalinist moonbats? What are you? Some kind of neo-pol-pot-ist sloganeer?
- RansomHoldiay, on 04/15/2008, -3/+14it may be hard to hear things, but it does feel good to actually support a candidate as opposed to be for the lesser of two evils.
- WasabiBomb, on 04/15/2008, -3/+14You might want to do a bit of research on the American Research Group before you trust their findings, p0s3r.
http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2007/12/problem-wi ... - zeitgueist, on 04/15/2008, -3/+13Except that whole insurmountable delegate lead. Oh wait you're counting on that deus ex machina superdelegate thing, right??
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -3/+13Yes, because somehow a blog aggregating the various links and reports from reputable sites (and citing them) somehow makes the information fraudulent.
Do you still support GWB or something? - AtHomeBoy2000, on 04/15/2008, -2/+12In all honesty, give this a few days to settle in. I see a gap of 5 points in the next few days that widens to 10 again by April 22nd.
- RansomHoldiay, on 04/15/2008, -4/+13according to who? the american research group, that's right.
FAIL - inactive, on 04/15/2008, -1/+10LOL. He just tried to use the ARG to prove a point! Dimwit doesn't even cut it. Is he a Ron Paul supporter, still telling us online polls are true as well?
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -6/+15You mean the same ARG that called Iowa in Clinton's favor by 9 points four days before the actual primary?
- WasabiBomb, on 04/15/2008, -4/+13And yet he's still ahead overall.
Get used to it, troll. - inactive, on 04/15/2008, -2/+11Ad-hominem? You mean the part where I refute YOUR ad-hominem with logic?
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -2/+11Look kiddo, it's only an "ad-hominem" when you try to use the source of information as an argument against it (what you did)
When it's not used as part of an argument (like I did), it's called an insult.
better luck next time. - sfgeek, on 04/15/2008, -0/+9parithes is just trolling, ignore him. He's an idiot.
- WasabiBomb, on 04/15/2008, -0/+9p0s3r- What, exactly, do you disagree with on that site I posted? Or did you not even look at it?
- rahamm, on 04/15/2008, -1/+9Ohhhh thank you for showing me a poll which was actually done before this broke on the news. Thats is so helping in showing me nothing.
- supernovasky, on 04/15/2008, -2/+10LOL! You use ARG?
ARG has been the worst pollster this election cycle.
ARG predicted Clinton would win Wisconsin +5. Obama won at +17 - Harabeck, on 04/15/2008, -3/+10Now lets compare that to the volumes and volumes of crap from both McCain and Clinton.
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -3/+10Untouchable
- lordmike, on 04/15/2008, -3/+10You mispronounced it... it's called AAAAAARRRGH! As in the sound one makes at the ridiculousness of their polls....
- visionaryIX, on 04/15/2008, -1/+8Holy crap - we get it.
Enough of the Obama speech articles. - inactive, on 04/15/2008, -3/+9Hold on a second, every time I post POLLs the Obamabots say Polls dont matter.
Hmmm
So since it seems OK for a bit, here ya go,
56% Disagree with Obama’s Comments on Small Town America.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol ...
Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide disagree with Barack Obama’s statement that people in small towns “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 25% agree with the Democratic frontrunner while 19% are not sure."
"Florida: McCain Trounces Obama, Even with Clinton"
Florida shows McCain attracting 53% of the vote while Obama earns 38%.
he Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain leading Barack Obama, 49% to 42%. The presumptive Republican nominee also leads Hillary Clinton 47% to 43%. Daily tracking results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time
have a nice day - ilmmad, on 04/15/2008, -1/+7This is now. The poll, unfortunately, does not reflect the views of the people he offended - small-town types - and therefore shouldn't show any faltering. However, when it comes time for general election, when the media only has to focus on one Democratic candidate, then these remarks will surface again, and alienate Obama from the people he needs to attract to beat McCain.
Give it time, and it will come back to bite him in the ass. - PATSCRU, on 04/15/2008, -3/+9brokenspatula, you're welcome to join in on the discussion, but off-topic comments like that do nothing for political discourse.
- Fordi, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6Jesus, man. Use real words for ***** sake.
- nblsavage, on 04/15/2008, -4/+10Sheesh, you still here? I assumed that you were poisoned by your own venom by now.
- SpinningHead, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6The only way we would have stalinism here is if the constitution was compromised. That agenda currently belongs to the conservatives
- Fordi, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5I'm really sorry, but I don't know how you arrived there.
- sgtpppr, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6That's because there was no controversy. The news networks needed drama and made something huge out of it. It's obvious that it had no effect on popular opinion...so who was really worked up over it?
- qwerter, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Why do you think people on digg tend to favor Obama? Could it have anything to do with the fact that we read a lot of articles about the candidates from all different sources--and the more we read, the more a pattern tends to emerge about their positions, their character, and their honesty/***** ratio?
- jbetancourt, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5I interpreted his comments totally differently. Since people know politicians wont' do anything about real issues, what is left is a focus on other issues like guns, etc. After all, you expect people to really discuss the tax systems, mathematical alternatives to voting system, quantum mechanics? Hmmm. Food prices in the world are shooting up, lets hear McClinton discuss that.
- vinnyvenus, on 04/15/2008, -4/+8Ramusen poll shows that he is loosing head to head with Maccain
"Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows John McCain leading Barack Obama, 49% to 42%"
Also contrary to digg's opinion majority of Americans disagree with Obama 'comment
"New polling data released this morning shows that 56% of voters nationwide disagree with Obama’s controversial comment that people in small towns “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." Partisan and ideological perceptions suggest that Obama’s comments may have more impact on the General Election than the Primaries. Liberal voters tend to agree with Obama and Democrats are fairly evenly divided."
Source
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol ... - Ganja420, on 04/15/2008, -5/+9Obama wins Texas!
- Fordi, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5Hehehe. You got poll trolled, man. ARG is a joke.
- Stevo23, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5ARG = Absolutely Random Guessing. If ARG says something is true, it's pretty safe to bet on the opposite.
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -9/+1314th Obama article of today. Go Obama spammers! Put those Paul spammers to shame!
- davewashere, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4That's how I understood it. When people become bitter about their political representation, they tend to back the politician who is the loudest about issues that are very emotional but don't really affect the lives of most people. These issues include abortion, prayer in schools, gun control, and gay marriage. I agree that Obama phrased it poorly. The "cling" part of that speech is damaging, but I think it has been balanced out by the "bitter" part, which the media is dwelling on but Pennsylvanians seem to agree with. Western PA has been in the dumps for about 30 years, and I think they're finding it refreshing that a presidential candidate has the guts to say that they are facing tough times instead of sugar-coating their situation and pandering to them by calling them "resilient blue collar workers" and "the lifeblood of America."
- Fordi, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5This just in: idealism and values are crazy.
- subat0mic, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4I don't see what the big deal is. He called it true. I'm from the midwest, and yeah, they're like that, scared about the loss of jobs, and clinging to religion. Someone should do something about it, and it sounds like obama is proposing to... so what's the problem?
- wtrwlkr, on 04/15/2008, -2/+5I love this stuff. Obama is the teflon candidate. NOTHING STICKS! It's hilarious watching the Republicant's and the 20 democrats that support Clinton try to manufacture ANY controversy that can damage Obama. So far, Obama has responded with each and every attempt to slime him with candor and eloquence.
- thefirstenemy, on 04/15/2008, -1/+4No, he means it's unfair to count any states Hillary lost in.
- subat0mic, on 04/15/2008, -0/+3it still doesn't matter, because what he said isn't that big a deal. you are blowing it out of proportion, and everyone knows it, and can't see what the problem is.
i'm from the midwest, and yeah, it's like that there. and we want to fix it, and obama seems to want to. so... great! it's a good thing.
so what's the problem? -
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