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- DonWigler, on 06/23/2008, -4/+114We need to get rid of the term spoiler. Barr is not "spoiling" anyone's chances, he is running for president just the same as the two candidates from the media enshrined parties.
- czernel, on 06/22/2008, -7/+107The Ron Paul effect will be felt during this election and beyond. GOP needs to accept that true conservatives are not happy with the neocon platform and will not support neocon politicians simply because they have an R next to their name. A good place for the GOP to look for ideas on platform changes to return to true conservatism would be www.campaignforliberty.com. Until then, they probably should not count on these voters casting ballots for their candidates anytime soon...
- inactive, on 06/22/2008, -20/+90I'm not worried. He will have an affect and it couldn't happen at a more appropriate time in history. Donate to Bob Barr, that's what I say! Donate to Barr.
- ghendric, on 06/22/2008, -16/+84"Some Republicans aren't worried about Barr's candidacy. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said voting for Barr is the same as voting for Democrat Barack Obama, and said he's confident most GOP voters will understand that.
"No reasonable conservative is going to vote for anyone except McCain," Gingrich said."
Oh on the contrary Mr. Gingrich, we all know that a vote for Obama or McCain is a wasted vote on the status quo. A lot of us are going to prove that in November... If we would all just come out of our news media brainwashed slumber and voted for someone that isn't part of the status quo that's running this country, then and only then would we get real change. Unfortunately, America doesn't want to be saved I think... - tcbishop12, on 06/22/2008, -4/+69According to Meet the Press today (which did a nice ten minute tribute in covering Tim Russert's memorial service last Wednesday) Barr's polling 6% in prior Republican stronghold Georgia, with McCain at 44% and Sen. Obama at 43%. You better believe the GOP is worried that Barr may cost them in the toss-up states decided by thin margins. Of course, the GOP can't openly admit their concerns, because that would give Barr's candidacy the legitimizing "not McCain" vote the GOP are desperately seeking to avoid.
- Mejari, on 06/23/2008, -1/+61Isn't McCain the GOP spoiler in the presidential race?
- malanb5, on 06/22/2008, -2/+58Its the Republicans' and Neocons' fault that Bob Barr is doing so well. Instead of legitimately addressing libertarian candidates concerns they continue eroding our civil liberties, grow government, and launch us into foreign wars with no exit strategy. The military, medical, and media industrial complex control the Republican party now and who care only about increasing their bottom line and could care less about what's best for the country or the American people.
- dmcbride6, on 06/22/2008, -2/+57They have one of the worst nominees in like 24 years and all the gop is worried about is Barr?
Sounds logical to me. - tnoy, on 06/23/2008, -0/+52McCain will be the reason the Republicans will lose in 2008, not Barr.
- InetRoadkill, on 06/23/2008, -6/+48The GOP's biggest worry isn't Barr; it's 8 years of corruption, cronyism, incompetence, and a retarded chimp in the white house screwing the pooch for everyone. The icing on the cake is that McSame wants to continue with this formula for success.
- lexington86, on 06/23/2008, -3/+42Good. The GOP should be very worried. Not just because of Barr or Paul. The GOP has lost its way and is alienating its voter base one candidate at a time. It will continue to happen until they get back to their true conservative roots.
- inactive, on 06/22/2008, -19/+55Donate to Barr (if you've got an extra few bucks): http://www.bobbarr2008.com
- Xihix, on 06/23/2008, -1/+35I love how the two parties say that voting for anyone except for one of their candidates makes them a spoiler. They're running for president too... Piece of ***** two party system.
- rolf, on 06/23/2008, -2/+34The arrogance of both major parties (and their hacks/fanbois) is that candidates like Perot/Barr/Nader "stole" their votes. I'm sorry, but I'm either writing in Ron Paul or perhaps voting Barr once I check him out to see if he meets my standards. The GOP hasn't automaticaly "earned" my vote just because I'm conservative. I'm never voting McCain, I don't vote blindly.
The same goes for Nader. People decided to vote for him. It's a democracy, they have that right. Good for them. Stop bitching. Either go out and earn those votes or shut up. - renegadeafk, on 06/23/2008, -4/+36Or Ralph Nader could be the Ralph Nader of 2008
- dsoleil, on 06/22/2008, -7/+39Georgia loves Bob Barr! Especially, the Obama fans.
- jgzman, on 06/23/2008, -0/+22Yea, but I belive that 8 years of corruption and cronyism, + Diabold Voting Systems is a major part of their strategy this year.
- capj71, on 06/22/2008, -2/+23I think Barr could play a big role in Georgia, like 6 or 7%. Nationally, he might not even match some of Nader's 2000 numbers. Barr is still a righty candidate in a lefty year. The GOP is going to fight to keep Barr of the ballot in the 20 remaining states where he hasn't qualified yet.
- JuanBSU, on 06/23/2008, -8/+27Bob Barrrrr! Come on down! You are the next contestant on "***** McCain a little bit more!"
Plinko time! - andy314159pi, on 06/23/2008, -2/+21While I disagree with both the Neocons and the Libertarians, at least I have respect for Libertarians for having principles.
- cowisgood, on 06/23/2008, -0/+19Barr has significant name recognition, which is why the Libertarian party picked him, and also while the GOP is concerned.
Not only that, but with the Ron Paul movement, the Bush administration, and the conservatives not really liking McCain, the GOP is very aware that people are looking around.
Of course, these things aren't really news. - franklymister, on 06/22/2008, -4/+22Not really. You're only remembering 2000.
There was no viable 3rd party candidate in '96, and in 1992, Ross Perot took almost 20% of the popular vote, which many people credited with handing the election to Bill Clinton. - daengbo, on 06/23/2008, -0/+15If I have to hear one more main-line political party telling me I'm "wasting my vote" I'm going to go postal. It's MY vote, and I get to vote for the person I want to, whether it's from your party, the OTHER party, Bob Barr, or friggin' Daffy Duck. If I exercise that right to vote, it's not wasted.
Hell, why don't you guys just tell all the people who voted for Gore in 2000 that they wasted their votes since Gore didn't win? That wouldn't go over too well, would it? - turnthepage, on 06/23/2008, -15/+30huffingtonpost.digg.com
- Karyyk, on 06/23/2008, -2/+17I'm voting for Barr. Why? Because he's the best candidate running. Despite the supposition that either of the mainstream candidates will bring change, the fact is that they won't. Neither major party is willing to implement the kind of widespread changes that are truly necessary right now. It would cost them too much...
They can say I'm "throwing my vote away" as much as they want, but I'm voting with my head for the best person available. This is about doing the right thing, not going with the popular choice. - anarcurt, on 06/23/2008, -7/+21Barr is not as good of a candidate as RP, hell not as good as Jesse Ventura while we're at it. But he beats the hell out of Senile McCain and spend it all Obama.
The sad truth is that the Baby Boomers or the Worst Generation will probably drop this country further into hell and elect one of these ass clowns.
Welcome to the new Rome, is that McCain fiddling as it burns? - daengbo, on 06/23/2008, -1/+14The two-party system hasn't just been well-established for most of American history: the law of the country and many states makes it difficult for a third party to do anything. How did that happen? The two ruling parties colluded to make it that way.
- londubh, on 06/23/2008, -3/+16That's the best news I've heard all day. Go Bob. Yeehaw! Help us to destroy the neocon ***** who are destroying this country. I sure as hell hope Ron Paul raises more hell too. And if we are very lucky, Ross Perot may throw a couple of turds at the Republicans too.
- stretch611, on 06/23/2008, -1/+13Ralph is running again this year. Not only that, but for the people that consider age an issue, Ralph is actually 2 years older than McCain.
- vault, on 06/22/2008, -4/+16 A lot of Republicans blame Clinton's win on Perot, but to me that's a cop out. Bush's father broke his "read my lips, no new taxes" promise and disappointed tons of conservatives, we were in the midst of a recession, he was at odds with Republicans in Congress, and he had super low approval ratings.
Clinton would have won either way. And don't forget Perot was pro-choice and wanted universal health care...he also took plenty of votes from Clinton.
But in 2000, Nader took votes from Gore in an extremely close election where Gore actually won the popular vote. Without Nader, I really believe Gore would have won Florida or New Hampshire, and either would have given him enough electoral votes to win the presidency. - mrzeero, on 06/23/2008, -9/+20Diebold > Barr
- DavidGX, on 06/23/2008, -2/+13Whatever hurts McCains chances is fine with me. Go Barr!
- DavidGX, on 06/23/2008, -1/+12A digg for you sir. Nicely done.
- L0cKe, on 05/09/2009, -0/+102 - Libertarian, Consitution
- Shaman760, on 06/23/2008, -4/+14Poor republicans....they can't win for losing huh? Guess that's what having a ***** idiot running the country for 8 years will do for you.
- maz2331, on 06/23/2008, -0/+10I'm fast losing the last little bits of respect for Newt Gingrich that remain.
- SadMartigan, on 11/25/2008, -1/+11People like Newt, who don't really understand the conservatives who live among the real population, don't understand how pissed off they still are that the Republican party is force-feeding them a candidate like McCain, who they do NOT consider to be conservative, like them. That being said, Newt is just voicing "wishful thinking" and is hoping that it will become self-fulfilling prophecy, if enough voters hear what he really means, for the Party's sake.
This is the same type of wishful thinking that will make you believe that 'like attracts like," and other nonsense.
As far as I am concerned, Ron Paul was supposed to be the 'spoiler', but now I really believe that the write-in "None of the Above" may just spoil things for the Republicans. And I think Newt knows this, too.
It may be true that 'no reasonable conservative is going to vote for anyone except McCain," but those who are at their wits end, aren't exactly reasonable anymore. - inactive, on 06/22/2008, -8/+18I would say that Perot was more of a spoiler than Nader.
- sgtbutterscotch, on 06/23/2008, -3/+13...you know just in case we didn't hear you the first time.
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -6/+14Having been pretty active politically then, you are correct. I would add that people look at it backwards:
Perot was popular because Bush Sr. ***** up. If Bush Sr. had done things right, we wouldn't even know the name Perot now, other than the giant eagles in the EDS lobbies.
Bush Sr. MADE Perot...
As for Nader, we have had this argument before. If you look at it state by state, and issue by issue, I think Nader's pull is overrated (as do a couple book writers). It is a very good debate though.
I STILL say: WIN YOUR HOME ***** STATE, GORE! He couldn't even pull that off. - danconia, on 06/23/2008, -5/+13Bob Barr might be better than both the Dem and Rep candidates in my opinion but there's still no way he's getting a dime of my money (and I'm a life-long libertarian too). You can't spend much of your life as a pro-government soldiers in the War on Drugs and then do a 180 and expect the freedom-lovers out there to believe you. I hope he does well and I might vote for him but he still wants to force the government on me.
I'm sorry but the "I won't force drug prohibition on you as President but will let your state government do it" is still a couple of degrees away from what I'd prefer. - zombies187, on 06/23/2008, -1/+8mmm...I don't think Green EVER polled 6%. This year its LESS likely.
- inactive, on 06/23/2008, -1/+8"Bob Barr is who Obamaians rejoice as a savior."
Wait.....I thought that it was Obama who they worship?
"If McCain chooses a young fiscal conservative as a running mate, you Obama folk are screwed."
Yet another conservative trying to tell me what I think and what the future will look like.
Aren't you the guys who thought the Iraq war would go swell?
Either way, completely out of touch as always. - inactive, on 06/23/2008, -1/+8Sad and ironic that the constitution party is the radical alternative to the status quo.
- brad3378, on 06/23/2008, -1/+8Ross Perot is starting to make headlines for making our National Debt an issue again.
An endorsement by Ross Perot could go a long way. - bigbenorr, on 06/23/2008, -0/+7on social issues, libertarians and republicans are opposites
but they mostly agree on economic issues and the size of government
well, the republican party has changed quite a bit, probably they have drifted further away from libertarians on the size and scope of government - snassiri, on 06/23/2008, -1/+8lowering taxes benefits an increase in civil liberties. And it's not just lowering taxes....the GOP is for that too (but not for cutting spending evidently).
Its lowering taxes, and cutting spending, returning power to local and state level where it belongs and where it has better effect. More federal government = less civil liberties. - L0cKe, on 05/09/2009, -1/+8Bob Barr is in Borat.
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