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- brianhatch, on 04/27/2009, -11/+27Wow if this does turn into a pandemic, and assuming we don't all die, this could really hurt the Republicans.
- AmaDaden, on 04/27/2009, -2/+10Originally it could only be transmitted from pig to human but now it has mutated and can be transmitted from human to human. That is the cause of this problem.
- peaceninja, on 04/27/2009, -2/+9jindal, palin and sanford...LOL
- crcurran, on 04/27/2009, -1/+8Normally I wouldn't back this kind of story since we need to be fiscally careful and I understand where the Republican party were coming from BUT pandemics are not always naturally occurring. The threat of a man-made bio-terrorism was absolutely on everyone's mind since 9/11. This does does not seem like a good move when we were allocating our money into the multiple war effort instead of protecting our bases back home (sorry baseball reference)
With that said, let me point out that Karl Rove hindering or helping *anything* should be scrutinized. The man (if you can call him that) is a self centered shill who will lie right to your face and the American public if thought he could get away with it and profit by it. - AmaDaden, on 04/27/2009, -0/+6The virus has started to infect humans. That is why people are concerned.
- DiggMasterJ, on 04/27/2009, -1/+7It's ironic cause they were trying to cut the pork.
- davebg8r, on 04/27/2009, -2/+7Im sorry, but werent the Dems in control of the Senate and the budget and they ultimately decided what went into the bill and what didnt?
Facts and the truth matter, especially to those of us that arent Dems or Repubs. - faskippy, on 04/27/2009, -1/+5LOL.
- cms04t, on 04/27/2009, -2/+6The funny thing is the government is just printing money out of thin air. To blame a potential pandemic on the right is absurd. If such a thing really did happen you don't think the government would either re-allocate funds to the issue, or the recent trend, just print more money. This article sounds like yet another attempt to persuade the public with facts that don't relate to the issue at hand; I bet if we got hit by a meteor the left would blame the right for not buying meteor insurance and the right would blame Obama for pulling funding for weaponized lasers. Our government has been reduced to apes throwing ***** at each other.
- novenator, on 04/27/2009, -15/+19This is a HUGE story. The short sighted nature of the GOP knows no bounds.
Read more on this at http://digg.com/politics/GOP_Legislators_Fought_Pa ... and http://digg.com/politics/GOP_Senator_Opposed_Using ... - aletoledo, on 04/27/2009, -2/+6"Never let a crisis go to waste." - Obama's chief of staff.
- offrdbandit, on 04/27/2009, -0/+4It's the flu. Not smallpox.
- isgk, on 04/27/2009, -2/+6So anybody want to tell me why pandemic preparedness should be in the frigging ECONOMIC STIMULOUS BILL? This is one of the perfect examples of ***** that should never be in the stimulous bill, this should be a regular budgetary item. Is there a reason why the legislature can't actually give $900M to them now? The way the creators made it is not stimulous but pet project love. If it was about stimulating things, the money would have been given to the states directly with no strings attatched and then the state/local legislature could decide what they need the best, rather than 10 guys in a backroom deciding for everybody in the entire nation who think they know what everybody needs.
- xman8, on 04/27/2009, -0/+3"GOP Stripped $900M In Pandemic Preparedness From Stimulus"
Since when did the GOP get the majority in the house and the Senate?
Are you people really that stupid? - drmangrum, on 04/27/2009, -2/+5Buried for whining about whining.
- delrin500, on 04/27/2009, -4/+7I am not sure if this will turn into a full blown pandemic, actually I doubt it, but if it did... I wonder how many lives $900,000,000 would equate too.
Not for nothing but the media needs a serious dose of context. The over dramatization of so many important topics and issues is just unnecessary. The argument is always freedom of speech stops at yelling fire in a crowded room, how is whipping people into a frenzy over these kinds of topics not akin to yelling fire in a crowded room? - anthropodeus, on 04/27/2009, -0/+3[citation needed]
- norman619, on 04/27/2009, -2/+5My god. Do people turn everything into a political issue? Government is always short sighted. They can't see past their own selfish interests most of the time. Hell, they seem to have completely forgotten they work for the people of this country and not the other way around.
- Karmashock, on 04/27/2009, -3/+6Riiiiiight, Mexico's lack of basic hygiene is the US's fault. Funny how we don't seem to have these problems. No, they happen in places like China or Mexico. But if it weren't for those dastardly republicans some how mexico wouldn't have these problems. Riiiiight.
The whole premise of this article is absurd. This administration as already spent more in the first 100 days then previous administration did in the last four years... and you're criticizing the republicans because you didn't spend MORE? How much money do you idiots think we have here? You're going to drive us into hyper inflation with this idiocy and I for one won't get caught by it. - Jordan117, on 04/27/2009, -0/+3Pandemic influenza is often characterized by "cytokine storms" -- an out-of-control immune response that devastates the victim's body. The stronger the immune system, the more damaging the storms are, meaning that even healthy young people are at increased risk. That's exactly what happened during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 -- nearly a hundred million people died, and most of them were in their physical prime.
- TCSavant, on 04/27/2009, -9/+12The sky is not falling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8019566.stm - NuBiXx, on 04/27/2009, -1/+4I like cheese !!
- AmazingSteve, on 04/27/2009, -5/+7Buried for whining...
- ThreeE, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Here's a thought: there are other ways to solve problems that don't involve the government.
- bjs3171, on 04/27/2009, -4/+6but i thought we had to curtail this socialist president's wild spending.....?
- kareemachan, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Exactly. My grandmother's family was a perfect example of this, as out of eight children, one died in WWI but four from the Spanish influenza - all under the age of 25.
- kareemachan, on 04/27/2009, -1/+3Sorry ks, but lack of hygiene has very little to do with a shifting flu strain. If it was, they wouldn't have to sweat about which flu vaccines to produce every year; they'd just push hygiene down our throats. Pretty racist-sounding of you, actually. And you may not be caught by this idiocy, as you call it, but you may very well be caught by the flu, specially if it's the kind that kills via cytokine storms to the immune system.
- lemur, on 04/27/2009, -3/+5While this does represent a legitimate health risks, and governments are right to go on alert in order to provide for a surge in flu patients, it's not going to be the end of the world for the average person. High risk individuals run the risk of dying, but most of us are healthy enough that if we do get this bug we'll live through it.
- brandozilla, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Not to mention: The Emergency Flu Response Act of 2004, and S 2038 the Flu Protection Act of 2004
- AmazingSteve, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Buried for being a one upping bitch. I win.
- akeldama, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2Yes xman8, yes they are.
- anthropodeus, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2wow . . . how is it possible that you are on the internets and you dont know this^?
- norman619, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2I think you are missing the point.
- fartbarker, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2sweet fancy moses
- kareemachan, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2And you think that 1) the states have a better idea how to deal with this? and 2) they have the legal right to make the kind of decisions that could conceivably need to be made to contain it? Even Perry in TX wants the feds' help here.
PS - Your Darwinian award is in the mail.... - anthropodeus, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2i'm pretty sure that if a country/organization released a REAL engineered contagion, 900M wouldnt be enough to fix it.
- brandozilla, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2President Bush asked for $7.1 billion in November 2006 to prepare for a flu pandemic. Congress appropriated $3.8 billion in December. An additional $2.3 billion is included in an emergency-spending bill making its way through Congress. Here is some of what the first package is to be spent on:
• $1.78 billion for vaccine research, development and purchase
• $731 million for anti-viral drugs, such as Tamiflu
• $350 million for state and local preparedness
• $162 million for medical supplies
• $133 million for surveillance, rapid diagnostic tests, lab capacity, quarantine
• $125 million for international activities, including preparedness, surveillance and response - ontain, on 04/27/2009, -2/+4but hey, at least the rich didn't get taxed as much.
- Fr33th0t, on 04/27/2009, -1/+3No superkendall, the point is that they forced the removal of funding to battle pandemic outbreaks. Whether we are in the middle of one or not does not absolve them of their shortsightedness--there's always another one lurking out there.
In fact, if Swine Flu can be shown to have negatively affected the economy--and I've seen some indication it has (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&am ... the party should reap its just deserts. So should the Democrats that didn't stand on principal here.
We really have no hope of freedom from the silliness the Republican party has foisted on us as economic conservatism. - Flytrap, on 04/27/2009, -0/+2I think that you are missing the point.
The point being made by everyone is that the politics of opposing everything that the President wants to do, for the sake of opposing, is very short sighted.
The Republicans should oppose those executive proposals that they truely believe are bad for the nation.
Setting asside funds for preparation for dealing with a pandemic, in this day of new and rapidly mutating viral flus, etc. must be a good thing. Calling it bad, simply because the president proposed it gets one into the position that the GOP is now in. - kareemachan, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1Yeah, maybe it's pretty little so far, but next week? Who knows. Also, it wasn't just for THIS flu outbreak. There is going to be another, and another, and another..cuz that's what the flu viruses do: change and mutate.
- aletoledo, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1I don't see all the details about what the GOP position was on this point, but you're wrong to think it's merely opposing a good idea. There are hundreds of good ideas and only a limited amount of resources. If we use all the money for manufacturing flu shots, then what money do we have left for fighting terrorism, global warming, hunger, flooding, poverty, etc...?
- brandozilla, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1Typically I'd agree with you on the media's stupidity, but a new strain of flu which is killing healthy young adults is pretty much a big deal.
- kareemachan, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1I'd say the GOP smeared themselves by belittling it - kinda like Piyush and the volcano-monitoring right before Redoubt blew.
- kareemachan, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1offr: Yes, it's swine flu. Found in swine. So when a flu mutates and jumps the species barrier, it can be devastating. If you don't believe me, read up on the 1918 flu epidemic, which was caused by a similar mechanism, and killed anywhere from 20-100 million people.
Oh yeah, smallpox? I'm assuming you're talking about early vaccinations that used cowpox to build resistance against smallpox. Other than that, it's a viral diseases, unique to humans, transmitted via airborne viral-laden droplets, ie coughing and such. - akeldama, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1I knew it! Just like EVERYTHING else, even the Swine Flu is Bush's fault! They should be charged with crimes against humanity!
- Doubledown, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1You can also cover your mouth with you cough, turn away when someone else coughs, do not touch your face, etc....
All the same methods we are told to avoid the flu in general. You go ahead and wear a mask, I am not fearful for my life - anthropodeus, on 04/27/2009, -2/+3correct. this tiny, 3-paragraph article does not mention how much funding the CDC gets each year, which i'm sure is far more than 900M.
this article has two objectives: smearing republicans and fear-mongering: "a pandemic hitting in the midst of an economic downturn could turn a recession into something far worse -- with workers ordered to remain in their homes, workplaces shuttered to avoid the spread of disease, transportation systems grinding to a halt and demand for emergency services and public health interventions skyrocketing."
everyone posting on this article is feeding the troll. - homercles337, on 04/27/2009, -0/+1When the repugs are in power they suck at governing. Probably an attempt to trick fools like you.
- kronzdigg, on 04/27/2009, -1/+2watch the map
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