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- rmpowe, on 10/15/2007, -2/+42there really ought to be a law against bad simpsons parodies.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/15/2007, -3/+42The GOP really needs to leave the satire to the professionals. They just don't get that it isn't really satire if those already ensconced in wealth and power try to poke fun at those without either; that's just being, at best, a bully, and, at worst, a monster.
- onisamsha, on 10/15/2007, -2/+32....and Matt Groening throws a chair through a wall in disgust.
Just speculating, but having seen countless interviews of the guy, one could probably guess where his political opinions lay. - wreckosaurus, on 10/15/2007, -5/+35I think "grossly misrepresenting" is an understatement
- sensoukami, on 10/15/2007, -5/+26Okay, it breaks down like this as I see it. With any handout/subsidy program it is in fact important to try and ensure that it goes to those who are genuinely 'needy.' Means testing of any kind is notoriously difficult, but it's a good idea to try. So the basic criticism; that affluent people might get a handout is to some extent valid. HOWEVER, and this is the killer, I can't see how the Republicans can level this particular criticism in this case. This is the same party that is responsible for (at not limited to): - No bid contracts for Halliburton.- An explosion in earmarks (i.e. pork) mostly aimed at their friends. - Tax breaks for the wealthiest (note: I have no problem with cutting taxes, but a fair tax cut would have started from the bottom, not the top). Given all that, their complaints ring more than a little hollow. The two-faced hypocricy and grotesque intellectual dishonesty truly staggers the imagination. I have no problem with honest genuine Conservatism (or honest genuine Liberalism) as a point of view, but this just reeks of BS. Throw on top of all that the disgusting lies and slander about the Frost family....
- carterbaldwin, on 10/14/2007, -1/+20I'm guessing the GOP has never actually watched the Simpsons. If they did, they may have noticed that they're represented by a vampire, a cowboy, and Montgomery Burns.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eyqDaYCuH_s - SlamShut, on 10/15/2007, -2/+18It really shouldn't surprise me that the character on the Simpsons that the GOP seems to feel the most affinity with is Mr. Burns.
But it does still surprise me. Chalk one up for my liberal naivete. - rnwen2750, on 10/14/2007, -0/+15And by having seen his show...
- rmpowe, on 10/14/2007, -0/+13The sad part is that actual people -- not just approval ratings -- are suffering as a result of this veto.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/16/2007, -2/+15Exactly. "Fail."
- preisler, on 10/14/2007, -3/+15The eighties was a different time - it was another 10 years before Fox "News" even started.
Meh, wrong reply button. This was in response to masterm1nd. - fadeout, on 10/14/2007, -1/+13You are high if the constitution you're reading says anything about whether the federal government is allowed to provide health care for its citizens.
(ps: it doesn't) - Bb8526, on 10/14/2007, -1/+11Republicans can't do satire.
- zweben, on 10/14/2007, -0/+10The show was canceled. "Auditions for Half Hour News Hour" was just a a figure of speech, because they're trying to be funny and failed as badly as that show.
- fadeout, on 10/14/2007, -2/+12You'd think it'd be easy to write satire on idiots like Nancy Pelosi but the "conservative comedians" still manage to fail at it.
- Comatose51, on 10/14/2007, -0/+9I feel sorry for the real conservatives because obviously douchebags have hijacked their party. You're absolutely right. The GOP is about as "conservative" as North Korea is a people's republic.
- dmbchris, on 10/14/2007, -0/+9um, isn't Monty Burns a Republican? This is funny only because it's obvious they haven't seen the show.
- mushoo, on 10/16/2007, -1/+8What's that fool up to? Is he still bobbing his head every time he thinks he made a funny, not realizing that the reason people are laughing is due to how retarded he looks?
- ZenMojo, on 10/14/2007, -1/+8The writers are liberal. They make fun of Fox and Fox News all of the time. The reason he would throw a chair is that an unfunny show is making a parody of his iconic show and doing it badly in likely opposition to his political stance.
Anyway, the Simpsons was created FOR Fox back when it was the home of Married: With Children, Tracey Ullmann, and Easy Street... :P - iam413x, on 10/14/2007, -0/+6Wow, that was so bad it was almost painful. I know they are just doing this since Stewart compared Bush to a cartoon villain like Burns.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 10/14/2007, -1/+6And like "The Half Hour News Hour", Republicans aren't going to get renewed, either.
- Acewrap, on 10/15/2007, -0/+5Comatose51: You forgot poisoning our troops with tainted water.
- vidorian, on 10/14/2007, -1/+6This bill would actually put new limits in place to keep states from going to very high-income levels. SCHIP money would no longer be available over 300 percent of the federal poverty level, which is about $60,000 for a family of four.
Now in most places 60k a year for a family of four is enough to cover the cost of a child's health insurance premiums. But if you have both parents working making 30k a year their jobs may not have health benefits. I think Bush's biggest complaint is that families that have health insurance would drop it in order to take part in the program.
Here is the part i don't understand the premiums a person pays to participate in CHIP is based on their income. Higher income higher premiums and less federal money spent. And most if not all CHIP programs require the child to have been without health care coverage for 6 months. I don't think any "responsible" parent would drop their child's coverage for 6 months to save a few bucks a month.
It is also an unfair characterization to say that a family making 83,000 would be eligible because that only applies to the state of New York. New York had wanted to allow children in families with incomes up to four times the poverty level onto the program.
Also it is not socialized medicine or even in the same category as Medicare and Medicaid because usually children in the CHIP program have a choice from among competing private health-insurance companies. The government simply pays a portion of the premiums. - jonjon602, on 10/14/2007, -1/+6i love how republicans always seem to leave out the important tidbits when they throw out random numbers. SCHIP is based on a sliding scale, a family of 4 earning 80K a year obviously does not deserve to qualify for SCHIP however a family of 6-7 earning 80K should.
- ZenMojo, on 10/14/2007, -0/+5Oh, and "Bill Cosby" and "Arnold Schwarzenegger" and the single female lawyer and the angry real-estate agent.
- fusama, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4of course if it wasn't about kids someone would just figure out a convoluted relation to interstate commerce ... thats how everything else gets justified. Since it's about kids that isn't even necessary, the constitution doesn't mean ***** if you're talking about "protecting the children"
the non-constitutional argument is about the weakest one there is against SCHIP, though, so its all sorta pointless. - Gabberwok, on 10/14/2007, -1/+5I don't remember reading about health care in the Constitution, but I do remember it saying that black people are only 3/5th of a person. The Constitution, like the Bible, is just a document and if you start reading it too literally you might get in trouble. You might say SCHIP is unconstitutional, but then again the executive branch has been declaring war for the past 50 years even though that is EXPLICITLY forbidden in the Constitution. So clearly there's some wiggle room in its interpretation these days. Just ask anyone "detained" and shipped off to another country to be "interrogated".
- WiseWeasel, on 10/15/2007, -10/+14That show is still running? Don't they have negative viewership at this point?
- SomaAddict80, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4Haha! what a group of constitutional scholars we have here! Seriously, under what argument could SCHIP be Unconstutional? Have you ever read the Constitution? If we look for constitutional authority, we can look in the Spending Clause (Art I sect 8) which says that Congress has the power to lay and collect taxes..to provide for the genderal welfare. We can certainly make an argument saying that taxing individuals to pay for children's health insurance provides for the general welfare. Or, we can look at the interstate commerce clause and argue that childrens health care substantially affects interstate commerce ( see wickard v. filburn) and could then easily argue that SCHIP falls under the enumerated powers of the constitution. I think even Thomas would have to agree that SCHIP is clearly constitutional. Next time you make such an argument, support it.
Now, the policy argument about the fox and the henhouse, well I see the point but I dont see how preventing SCHIP would have any effect on foxes or hens. It would keep our system we have now, just allow for some extra children to have health insurance. Sure, our system is corrupt. But lets at least save some children's lives while we figure out a better way. - Comatose51, on 10/14/2007, -1/+5Like transporting sailboat fuel as one of their drivers jokingly claimed? Running empty convoys to charge US taxpayers more all the while risking the lives of our soldiers protecting the convoy? Yeah, proven companies... proven to make their stockholders wealthy.
- Kerath, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4Don't forget the clown.
- spinchange, on 10/14/2007, -1/+5"Our tax dollars" was an increase in the price of cigarettes, and I don't know where you got the 80,000 figure or that anyone would be "forced" to take this insurance over private insurance.
- Aidenag, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4That would be correct, that is stolen copyrighted art, hosted on TAX PAYER FUNDED servers.. Brought to you by the Republican Party.... I already forwarded it to my local rep(Democrat), and emailed the owners of all simpsons copyrights.
GOP wants to be partisan and waste time and not do the real job they were elected to. Fine, but not on my damn dime..... - archiesteel, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4That doesn't look like satire, but rather actual Simpsons art.
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -0/+3Republicans ARE satire.
- Cam_86, on 10/14/2007, -0/+3Remember when they portrayed peolosi and the democrats as the empire in Star Wars, at one of their campaign meets(literally splicing in their faces on the star wars movie) while they displayed themselves as the rebels?
They have a VERY flawed take on reality. Esp. since everyone knows Dick Cheney is the inspiration for Darth Vader, and Ted Stevens for Senator Palpatine. - Smight, on 10/14/2007, -0/+3don't you know that kids sometimes travel to different states? All children need to have their healthcare provided so that if they cross state lines they will be healthy when they do so.
- spinchange, on 10/14/2007, -0/+3Just dugg the actual press release:
http://tinyurl.com/3x26qc
If one of your local congress people is on the committee,
I suggest writing them to compliment their keen sense of humor. ;) - inactive, on 10/14/2007, -10/+13and lisa is a republican. come on, burns as a democrat. ARE YOU FRIGGIN' KIDDING ME!! It's true, if you're a republican, you're a retard. that includes you ron paul, do you ***** think you'll get the nomination. he's behind thompson for pete's sake. i didn't even like thompson, sam waterson was the only reason i watched law&order. wow is this off-topic.
- LBobRife, on 10/14/2007, -1/+4You have to be kidding. This is just a lame joke document. I don't think anybody is actually taking offense at what they're saying, other than pointing out the fallacies.
- Gabberwok, on 10/14/2007, -2/+4The Simpsons are clearly another agent of Rupert Murdoch. Even if they did have Bart write on the night of the 2000 election "I will not send subliminAL messaGOREs"
- SomaAddict80, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2thats the kind of ***** thinking that keeps organizations from confronting bush and his cronies. any time some group stands up then repubs manufacture some ***** "scandal" and then all the pussy liberals lie down and take it. look at all the ***** Bush and his ilk have pulled. Listen to Gibson or limbaugh for one second and tell me that moveon is out of line. and btw, petraus deserves whatever he gets.
- Comatose51, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2Quite convenient too that Bush and Burns are both Yalies.
- thebellmaster1x, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2Well, it does state that the government can "provide for the General Welfare" of its people...
- nphase, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2That sort of law would really be in step with our current government's policies.
- inactive, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2Taxpayer, worker funded, not government funded. You stupid ***** moron!
- vprasad1, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2Yay for the "Free Market"
- jmknsd, on 10/14/2007, -0/+1umm, when the government is directly involved.... I think you need to look up free market
- christor, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2Wow. Very well and succinctly said. I think you've put into words why so many of these GOP "satirists" strike me as creepy.
- ZenMojo, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2This is why this was a freaking travesty:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U3_YstPf-NM&mode=relate ... -
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