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- lattrig, on 04/17/2009, -3/+117He wasn't even a protester, he was a newspaper seller walking home from work. Having been diverted by the police, he had to walk the long way round and being middle aged and not in the best of health was probably tired, but he wasn't walking fast enough for them so they shoved him to the ground and beat him with a baton. If I beat someone in an unprovoked attack just because they were walking too slowly in front of me and they died of their injuries, I'd expect to be charged with manslaughter. I wonder if the same rule applies to the police...
- inactive, on 04/17/2009, -3/+101This is it then, the police killed a protester. I hope the guy who did it goes down for as long as possible. Although this country is a nation of surveillance now, it is good to see that we can return the favour at times, although the right to photograph the police might be gone soon; they are drafting legislation that makes doing so illegal under terror laws. I don't know who they are serving anymore, but it isn't us.
- BarriedaleNick, on 04/17/2009, -0/+52I'd lay money on the police walking away from this. Again!
They shot Harry Stanley and walked away and he was dangerously brandishing a chair leg. More disgustingly the police protested over the way the officers were treated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Stanley
Disapointingly the same will probably happen here and we will hear "lessons will be learnt" and "The police were under unbearable pressure when they acted.."
Nothing changes. - inactive, on 04/17/2009, -0/+28That recently did become law.
Scary. - Fishn2, on 04/17/2009, -2/+29We the poeple send our thanks to the police.
Thank you for protecting and serving us as best you can.
By throwing innocent people to the floor or shooting them. - draxenato, on 04/20/2009, -0/+24Umm, I'm gonna go with "no"
- UK31337, on 04/17/2009, -0/+23Jean Charles de Menezes also.
Total, blinding, deliberate Police incompetency that goes unpunished and sometimes even praised.
I have lost faith. - inactive, on 04/20/2009, -0/+22Manslaughter is basically a collateral death resulting from an activity not intended to kill someone (like an auto accident due to reckless or careless driving which kills a pedestrian).
Since the "Protester" was beaten, it would then be Murder! - mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -0/+17The fact that the police tried to cover it up I think is far worse than the crime itself ... pretty worrying, but not actually that suprising. ***** jacked up, badge wearing under achievers.
- kmkg, on 04/20/2009, -1/+17Sadly, it's worse than that. The police murdered an innocent bystander without the slightest provocation. Watch the vid, read the note.
- AnotherDiggGuy, on 04/20/2009, -3/+18"He had a heart attack after we bashed his skull. It's not our fault"
- hove, on 04/20/2009, -1/+16Obviously the officer who killed this man is in the wrong. But I want to know what is going to happen to the officers who witnessed the police breaking the law and did not arrests the offender, isn't it their job to arrest law breakers?
- mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -0/+14Ye my vote is with muder ... but at worst he'll lose 10% of his fat-ass-pension.
I'd burn him at the stake.
And He wasn't a protester, just a pedestrian caught up not by the "chaos" the protesters caused, but by the heavy-handed police hearding people like livestock.
Makes me sick. - faskill, on 04/20/2009, -4/+18Hey, Pixelante had a valid point in the first part of his post.
(Godwin's Law...)
"Listen to this statement and ask yourself who made it: "This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. The street will be safer, the police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future." That was spoken by Adolf Hitler, on April 15, 1935. " - taken from http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=553 ...
I apologize for the next wall of text, but a semi-interesting read:
Most importantly note the difference between Australia and Switzerland at the bottom of this.
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.-----
In 1911, Turkey established gun control.
From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.----
Germany established gun control in 1938
From 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.-----
China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated-----
Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.----
Uganda established gun control in 1970.
From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.----
Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.----
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.-----
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:
1: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.
2: Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent..
3: Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.
Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we're 'subjects'.
...If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends. The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAXDOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET. - jason210, on 04/20/2009, -0/+13funny I'd say thats straight up murder.
- draxenato, on 04/20/2009, -0/+13I think it's up to the discretion of the officers on the scene at the time, it's not automatically forbidden but they have the power to compel you to stop recording. You can bet that discretion will be used more vigorously during the next demos and protests.
- Sheethappens, on 04/20/2009, -1/+14Bloody amazing - they are drafting laws to make it illegal to photograph the POLICE!?!?
So what are you supposed to do over there - "trust me"???? So what do you do if you are bailed up by a cop who really is just a criminal with a badge and you cant photograph the person doing wrong? You produce evidence, in court, that shows you are innocent of any charge the cop made against you and that the cop was guilty and that evidence is actually a photo. So the court agrees with you and acquits you, arrests the cop then arrests you for taking pictures of a cop? So either way - whether you vindicate yourself or not, you go to gaol?
I think that I would be taking that "law" (for want of a 4 letter word to aptly describe that!) to the World court as a crime, in itself, against human freedom. - jasonbrain, on 04/17/2009, -2/+13The Police need to stop hiring bullies! There's only one reason bullies try to become cops... and they keep getting away with it.
It needs to stop! - Chooxo, on 04/20/2009, -1/+12"or the death of Diana."
That happened in France. - mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -2/+12lol, diana died in Paris you turd :P
(although yes, its a horrific police state) - g33b33, on 04/20/2009, -0/+10Yes. That is the answer. Hang him before he gets a trial.
Idiot. - mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -1/+11Cause they're nice and fun and have families doesn't make them any more able to police a nation, nor does it mean they're any less likely to infringe on human rights, whack a woman in the face, push a man to the ground, or shoot a man on a tube running away from two un-uniformed thugs with guns.
Ye, they're not all bad people ... but the organisation is corrupt. - 10ofDiamonds, on 04/20/2009, -0/+10The guy wasnt even a protester, just walking home from work.
- dygel, on 04/20/2009, -0/+10When the official response to incidents like this is to suspend the bad cops for two weeks with pay, the good cops are complicit. That's not a punishment, it's an at-home vacation.
- Researchlight, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9Guaranteed the investigation will be covered up with half truths in the interests of national security and it will take 30,000 people chanting for justice to get anywhere near closure in 20 years time.
- waydee, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9He was walking home from work and apparently not walking fast enough so he was pushed. Not even involved in any protests.
Have you even seen the video evidence? this isn't some thug screaming in an officers face looking for a fight - he was walking and pushed from behind. - tk0680, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9I agree with you, but the anger doesn't come from assuming all cops are bad cops, it's from the belief that the "non-bad" cops will cover up for/protect the bad cops.
Not all cops are bad, many are good, but the bad ones need stringing up by their balls. - mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -1/+9Violent toward whom? You mean the heavy handed police presence didn't cause retaliation from a group of forward thinking folks expressing their right to free speech and protest?
Because you beleive in human rights, the end of starvation, the fate of the planet and disagree with the way the government cack-handedly handle an economic crisis they started doesn't make you a hippy; it makes you a functioning member of society.
Go back to your cave. - TapperJones, on 04/20/2009, -3/+11I like the police they keep me safe.
But the shove the man was given was totally uncalled for, however the policeman obviously didn't mean to kill him. He should be charged for manslaughter and police brutality. - inactive, on 04/20/2009, -1/+9Conclusion ; Never turn your back to a ***** pig.
- alfredscakes, on 04/20/2009, -1/+9No, we bashed his skull in, ruptured his stomach then he had the heart attack - please get it right else it will be thrown out of court at appeal.
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -1/+9Welcome to Big Brother Britain.
All UK citizens when the time comes will you answer the Call to Arms? - tk0680, on 04/20/2009, -0/+8Awesome example of someone not knowing the facts trying to push their own agenda. So awesome that I rather hope it's trolling.
- Tarantulus, on 04/20/2009, -0/+8the guy that died wasn't even a protester you knobjockey, he was a guy walking home from work....
- waydee, on 04/20/2009, -0/+8CCTV led to the pictures of the 7/7 suspects very quickly :s
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -1/+8Fixed:
Police SHOULD work for us - Tarantulus, on 04/20/2009, -0/+7yeah, cos firearms would have made this scenario a WHOLE lot safer... *sigh*
- jerrykew, on 04/20/2009, -0/+7What really bothered me was the reaction, or lack of, from the colleagues of the violent police officer. It seems indicative of 'that's not unusual'. Combine that with the fact that all of the officers filmed performing violent acts had first removed their identifying badges.
We live in a democracy, in theory, peaceful protest should be protected by the police. In this case it appears that the police were actively seeking confrontation. The subsequent cover up attempts (the lies to the family, the exclusion of the Police Complaints Commission from the autopsy etc) only suggest that the problem is far more endemic than 'a few bad apples' - mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -0/+7too much power given to those who don't deserve it. Recipe for disaster if you ask me.
- DrVic, on 04/20/2009, -1/+8Move along citizens, nothing to see here.
- Stormwern, on 04/20/2009, -1/+8Hard to imagine that push causing massive internal bleeding by itself though, more likely it made an existing problem alot worse.
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -0/+7Well, the bastard will probably go in jail for a few weeks, then be released. I hope he gets raped by the biggest male in the whole penitentiary. No lube.
- kd420, on 04/20/2009, -0/+7A chair leg? A stapler will get you killed here in Canada! A Polish immigrant in the airport could not speak English and was getting anxious and frustrated. The RCMP came (FOUR officers) and within 30 seconds they Tazered him...five times. He went blue in the face, and they prevented him from getting treatment. NO criminal trial, only a hearing where they can lie and tell stories contrary to video footage. This pandemic of police brutality needs to stop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dziekanski - Uaedaien, on 04/20/2009, -0/+7Doent matter if he was a protestor or not he was walking away when he was violently asaulted.
- Pixelante, on 04/20/2009, -2/+8What arms? They banned them. Enjoy being defenceless. How does it feel to be the sex toys of Gordon Brownnose?
- alfredscakes, on 04/20/2009, -0/+6zaskar - I think you guessed right!
- Kyrgizion, on 04/20/2009, -0/+6I don't believe that every law enforcement employee is an evil tyrant. However, I DO believe that the VAST majority of them (>90%) are completely apathethic about anything that isn't written down in the manual. They are the ones that enable the bad apples to take control and ruin the entire force's image.
- mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -0/+6/signed
Good point. - mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -0/+6I think the police policing this protest were all out for a beat of a beating. You can choose not to police a protest on the grounds you agree with the cause, or have personal attachments to the cause etc (I know if I were a policeman I wouldn't want to be involved in any protest ... without the cops to fight where's the violence gonna come from!?). So these animals felt the need to hinder the UKs citizens right to free speech. The only reason the protesters were so riled up is due to the media over sensationalising everything ... send the pigs to the papers, not to the streets.
- mrnathan, on 04/20/2009, -2/+8I love photographing police, I love seeing their little faces get angry about something they have no control over ... although yes, in certain circumstances its not allowed. Less about discretion, more about circumstance.
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