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- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -6/+59Her Senate seat is a sure shot. She'll never be able to find enough conservative and moderate votes to win the White House. She should stop trying to reach the unreachable.
- Gaius, on 10/12/2007, -5/+48Actually, Hillary out of the running will better the chances of the Stewart/Colbert ticket ;)
- Silentshadow900, on 10/12/2007, -15/+48That crazy bitch? We'd be in deeper ***** than we are in now, especially us gamers.
- snowbooch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35sharpfork is right, she can't win
hillary doesn't have the personality and charm of bill, she comes across as having a narrow perspective and a smug attitude
democrats would be wise to choose a lower profile candidate, someone who hasn't been a big mouthpiece for the party and hints at the potential for national consensus - thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -15/+40it's true, if she runs it will be a disaster.
there is no way she would get elected, and america would be stuck with another republican president.. - sharpfork, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30She is the best chance of getting every wingnut out to vote against her. She can't win...
- Etaoin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Speaking as an independent with liberal tendencies, even if she won the office (think flying pigs, blue moons, and snowballs in hell) I think it would be a terrible four years. She would be a divisive leader in exactly the same way that Bush is. Whoever the nominees end up being, it's likely to be another close race - but I'd prefer to elect a President that the country can get behind once he (or conceivably she) gets into office.
- Etaoin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Kerry won't run in 08 for the same reason Gore didn't run in 04. There's no way he'd even get the nomination after losing once.
- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I had similar thoughts when I came across this last night. If so, it would be clever (manipulative, but clever). The story has since been picked up extensively on the wires.
Taking the story at face value, however: she may very well be recognizing that she still has too many negative perceptions she has yet to resolve as obstacles to a viable presidential run.
My guess: she will not be able to resist the Clintonian urge for Pennsylvania Avenue. - nyseans, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14My guess is that this is a media test...what is the public feedback when such a story drops?...
- matatan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I would prefer to believe that we are better than this, but I believe there will be a higher turn out of male voters, voting NOT for Hillary.
Also, if Rudy Giulanni does run for President, New Yorkers will vote for America's Mayor over their Senator. - kimastergeorge, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18@thewebguy
I'd love to have John McCain, a Republican (and probably the front-runner, right now, too), as president. He'd be unbeatable, too: far-left Dems would vote for him over Hillary or almost any Democrat, and Republicans would vote for him, since they'd prefer a Republican over any Democrat, especially a Clinton. - triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13i want to see john mccain vs barack obama in 2008. i'd be happy with either of them in office.
- swiftwings88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8she couldn't win anyway
if anyone would galvanize the right it would be her - AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Why do people keep nominating junior senators for president? Clinton, Obama, Edwards, none of them have served even one full term as senator, and they're already presidential material? Has the Democratic party really gotten that bad? And since when have senators been a good choice for president anyway? A senator hasn't won the seat in almost 50 years.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8She'd better.
No more Bushes. No more Clintons. No more Clinton proteges. No more Bush Proteges.
It's time for some fresh faces in the White House. We don't need someone who has already spent 8 years there.
Honestly, given the anti-incumbent feelings in the country right now, I would think this would be the worst possible time for her to run. And don't forget she refuses to back away from the war, despite a 60% disapproval rating throughout the country.
This isn't the right time.
On a more personal note, I can't see voting for her in any Presidential race ever.
Crap, I wish I had read ArianeB's post first. Mine just is basically a me too to that one. - thinkfree2020, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Just in case you missed it, Hillary is a Globalist and is an [unofficial] promoter of a one-world government (that's called "fascism", kids).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heegk07026I
Hillary in '08!!!! < sarcasm - AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7What does he speak for? He's been in the senate for two years, and I have no idea what his policies are, what he stands for, or what his future plans for our country would be. He doesn't claim to want any position in the Executive Branch, nor can I see why he would.
I don't understand why everyone wants this guy in the White House, other than he seems to be a very cool and charismatic individual. How about we at least let him finish his first term in the senate first? - ddales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7My first thought too. Why pay millions for polls when you can now drop a story to an anonymous reporter and get it circulated like a wildfire.
Sit back and observe the reaction. Then decide when and where to make a move.
On the other hand, America could possibly ready for a woman president. But not Hillary. - Dingle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The US is not ready for a women president. There will be a black president well before a woman takes office, IMO.
- starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11i'm thinking things are so ***** up that who ever wins... looses. republicans will blame everything bush ***** up on the democrat... and it will be a democrat because americans are burned out on republicans... and they know as well as any democrat that its so ***** up only time and luck fix things. and the republicans want to blame the mess on a democrat so i don't think they any will really be looking to win.
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6She'll never be president.
- Duffy40, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh I see you believe what she says. She has been courting the center, hoping to bounce left with the primary, then back center to win the election. Problem is no matter where you sit, Hillary Clinton, like Kerry, (and McCain) will say, and possibly do anything to get power.
way I see it, 1 year from now, expect the front runners to be Bill Frisk R(TN) and Evan Bayh D (IN) as the front runners. McCain is viewed as to unreliable and not loyal to the party, and Rudy, while possibly the best canidate, is not conservative enough for the primary, and Pelosi is just about so far out in Left field, she could not win a national election. Forget Obama, the pwer structure in the democrat party wont allow it, for a lot of reasons, though race is one.
To bad Condileeza rice is so tied with the Bush Administration, she could actually pull the hat trick and win both firsts. But I would love to see Rudy against Hillary for the senate seat, that would be fun, and possibly bloody. - FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Maybe Ted Stephens and Robert Byrd can be co-Presidents. Then every year they can have a ceremony on the White House lawn where they roast pigs over burning piles of taxpayer money.
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Here's a thought, how about we pick someone that actually has the same beliefs as most Americans? And at least -some- experience as a leader.
- ArianeB, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I don't want her to run for the same reason I don't want Jeb Bush to run, we do not need dynastys in America.
If McCain actually got the nomination, I'd say he would have a good chance at being a good President, but I get the sneaking suspicion that the Fundamentalist Right/Neo-Cons that control the GOP will pick someone else.
Meanwhile, I think the Democrats should consider a Feingold/Obama ticket. - Araxen, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14I hope Obama runs. He seems like the best guy to be president atm.
- Duffy40, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If a woman is to win the white house, she has to be Conservative enough to pull enough of the moderate middle in the country to win. Sorry kids it ain't Hillary, she won't be able to pull enough liberals to win even if she had the moderate middle.
the first Black president will be Conservative. Face it, show black who have been in real leadership positions in the Democratic party. The DUNC takes blacks for granted but certainly does not give them anything but lip service, and god forbid any minority does not toe the party line. Look at what they did to Obama when he tried to work a deal with McCain. But what Party has given Blacks the opportunity within the party structure? The one with the fewest Blacks in the Party. Say what You will, that the conservatives only accept performance as the standard for position or that it is a publicity stunt to try and trick African Americans into voting Republican, it is real and it is visible, and may change the voting Dynamic soon. What have democrats offered up to counter? They will dump a black Politician at the first sign of trouble (Jefferson and McKinney). And right or Wrong perception is reality.
Oh, any chance we can get someone that a majority of Americans can stand behind? No, if that is going to happen, it is going to happen after the election, not before. The last President who maintained popularity for eight years was Ronald Reagan, and that was how long ago? every since then, and most of the decades before. at least 45% of the country hated the president in Power. and I don't mean disagreed with, but hated. But after all, the election of at least one president did start a Civil War. And historical revision aside, The south started the civil war because they thought Lincoln intended to abolish it, and they thought that for good reason. - LordRahl72, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13However wins the next election will be a 1 term president. The republicans made sure of that. The unfortunate president will be forced to make a lot of unpopular decisions to fix the mess that Bush has done to this country.
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7John McCain is still a conservative Republican, folks. People seem to think that just because we have extremely far right win nutjobs in power now, that a slightly less right wing Republican wouldn't be as bad.
John McCain is vehemently pro-life, and says he would sign legislation banning almost all forms of abortion (except rape, incest, or life of the mother). He's also been a supporter of the war in Iraq since its inception, and his support has not waivered. He will continue the war in Iraq if he was president.
Why do Democrats like this guy so much? Because he's the lesser of two evils? - FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, Peru elected a Japanese national as President, that doesn't mean it could happen in the US.
- colobikeguy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Agreed, whoever wins the next election is screwed. The nice thing about that, is if this person manages to get elected to a second term, we'll know they are something special... or just able to raise a lot of money.
- JimNtexas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Hillary has already locked up the Democrat nomination, and she will run for President. She has bought off the majority of the 'super delegates' by using her one and only talent: raising money. The nomination is already hers.
She's lusted for power her entire life.She will stop at nothing to gain more power. She has the FBI files on every elected official and big media journalist who might oppose her. None of the girlie men running against her in the primaries has a chance.
She probably won't win the general election, but she certainly will run. - Nothlit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That's true, most presidents in the past few decades were actually state governors first.
- mogdor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I'd love to see a woman president- democrat, republican, whatever......... just as long as it's not her. She's so power hungry and smug I want to slap her whenever I see her on tv.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Hillary isn't dumb enough to run. Heck, I doubt she'd even take a VP spot. Her Senate seat is very secure, and I sincerely doubt the country wants too much inbreeding in the White House. GWB has shown that that doesn't work.
That said, she could probably raise a few bucks just to explore it. Unfortunately, that might mobilize the Right-wingers that hate her and the horse she rode in on. I doubt it would be worth it. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I like Gore now (unlike last time, even though I voted for him).
But it's time to clean house. No more Reagan/Bush buddies, no more Clinton buddies.
Let's get some fresh faces. - jayc, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Oh please, Giuliani is as much of a Republican as Zell Miller was a Democrat. Pro-choice, gay marriage, gun control? Check, check, and check. How the hell you think he became mayor of New York?
The far right will never nominate him regardless of whether he would make a good President. He's not bigotted enough for their liking. - h4lofourt33n, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm a democrat, and I found this to be very delightful news. Women would vote for her regardless of political orientation, and while I have no problem with women being in charge, this is the wrong woman to be put in a place of higher power.
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I would tend to disagree. America will not elect a woman president in my lifetime (I'm 24, not given to promiscuity, flights of fancy, dangerous stunts, excessive alcohol consumption, tobacco addiction, substance abuse or the like).
Despite the progress the women's movement likes to think it has made, it still has far to go, and I think Hillary is smart enough to know this. A presidential run would be political suicide. Anyone even CLOSE to the conservative line, who might be swayed by a moderate candidate in either directon, will avoid a woman president. If the democrats and more liberal parties want to re-take the white house, it HAS to be someone else, namely, a man. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Way too early for Obama.
- CornStarch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Hillary is a debutant aristocrat any how, I wouldn't vote for her anymore than I would vote for that idiot Kerry.
- LegendX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Women might instead vote against her. They rather blame a man for screwing up their country instead of blaming it on a woman.
- volcompimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4She and Lieberman represent the old way of Democratic thinking which is to try and steal republican/conservative votes. They think that being Democrat will automaticly get them all the existing votes from previous elections and by acting conservative they'll win an election finally. I won't vote for Hilary because of this and because of her voting record in the Senate.
- Quash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hillary is risk-adverse, by nature. Conservative, by nature. She'll run if she believes she can win. She won't if it's too much of a gamble. She very different than her husband, in this way. It's reported she likes the Senatre and is respected on both sides of the aisle, as a Senator. She also knows that a career spent in the Senate could create greater legislative impact than 8 years as President. Just look at Ted Kennedy's contribution compared to Robert's and JFK's. He's had a much greater legislative impact than either of his brothers ever did, which many will reject out of hand, I know.
John McCain will be tough to beat as he'll run a "break the clinton-bush cycle. Lett's a have a fresh start" drum. As well, Hillary still runs high negatives. While she dearly loved by many, she is loathed by many, which gets out the Republican base on a election day.
I think there's a very real change Hillary will not run. If she does, it will be because she thinks she can beat down McCain over his health issues. If she does run, she'll run a very, very tough and nasty campaign. She is not afraid of a fight. It will be bloody.
And for those who think that she's some big lefty, look at her history. She was born in to a mid-western, Republican family, has all the markers of a conservative personality and in her early Arkansas days, was heavily involved in union rights erosion for teachers. And don't forget, she's also a big free trader, like her husband, which doesn't please the unions, and was on the board of Wal-Mart, which is very anti-union. This is not a Big 'L' Liberal as many would like you to believe.
She'll be watching the Lieberman-Lamont re-match very carefully (Lieberman will probably win). If it's a long shot, she will not give up her Senate seat. I'm sure she'd like to pull a Lieberman and run for President without giving up her Senate seat, but that's not politically possible for her, so she won't be able to hedge her bets.
Hillary will run if she thinks she can win. If not, look for her to build a life as a career Senator and think about running again in 4 or 8 years, when she'll still be young enough. - alphaone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's too soon for her. For one, America isn't ready for a female president. Secondly, moving for Senate Majority/Minority Leader makes sense and builds her credibility for a more effective shot later on - when she has a better chance. Not that I'm a political analyst or anything...just my opinion.
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Brazilians dont vote for US presidents.
- A11ie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5yeah, that's funny
- ViRaZ, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Now I have to wait 2 years not to vote for her. Yay!
- edverb, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Heh...in a Clinton/Rice matchup I'd personally be torn as to who to vote AGAINST.
Here are my predictions (though a lot can change in two years):
If Hillary's the nominee, it'll be Giuliani for the GOP. He can beat her in NY -- game, set, match.
If some other Dem looks like the winner (particularly if it's Gore), it'll be McCain.
George Allen will be a footnote (he's on pace to lose his Senate seat to Jim Webb this November), Gingrich will not run, and Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee will be dark horses -- especially Huckabee. He'll be the "outsider" candidate. Chuck Hagel could make things interesting too. Watch the GOP disparage his service record if he gets too close. But really it's between McCain and Giuliani. Both of them on the same ticket would be tough to beat.
On the Dem side, watch out if Obama decides to run -- he'll change the whole playing field. I'd like to see Brian Schweitzer throw his hat in the ring and talk energy independence. Also, don't be surprised if Elliott Spitzer (the next governor of NY) gets the VP nod (if it isn't Hillary on the ticket). If Hillary runs (and she will), it'll be between her and Gore, with Obama and the others "running" for VP the way Edwards did. Should be interesting.
And pretty much ANY ONE of the above would be far superior to Bush. But that ain't saying much...lobotomy patients are superior to Bush. (shrug) -
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