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- Taors, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19We will prevail. I'll be moving by December 31st, 2008.
- quami16, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13If i didn't have college to worry about i'd be there already. Damn education, it's getting in the way of my liberty.
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Actually I thought it stood for First Person Shooter.... then I realized I'm a dumbass
- FTLJohnson, on 10/21/2007, -3/+15@randomcode
It is certainly true that Japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the industrialized world, and the Japanese people are fortunate to live in one of the safest societies on the planet. The Japanese homicide rate, for example, in 1988 was only 1.2 per 100,000 people while America's was a horrifying 8.4. Handgun Control, Inc. attributes Japan's low homicide rate to their outlawing the civilian ownership of handguns and rifles, and severely controlling shotguns.
Yet few Americans are aware of the horrible loss in personal freedoms the Japanese people have paid for their low crime rate. It is not just the right to own guns the Japanese people have surrendered to their government; they have also given up the right of self-determination, the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, and the right to privacy. In Japan these freedoms are routinely violated.
The Japanese police, for example, keep dossiers on every single citizen. These dossiers are kept updated by the police through interviews with friends, neighbors and relatives twice a year. If, during the police "home visits," the policeman notices contraband such as Playboy magazine, the magazine will confiscated, the person's employer notified, and the person will receive a black mark on their employee record.
The Japanese National Police Agency wins the applause of the American gun control crowd by keeping close tabs on gun owners, down to counting how many round of shotgun ammunition a licensed owner has in storage. But the police belief that citizens have no privacy rights has implications that would frighten most Americans. The official year-end police report includes statistics on "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." ("Out of curiosity" accounted for 19.6% of the misconduct, and "liked particular boy" for 18.1%.)
When Japanese citizens are accused by the police of a crime they are expected to confess. According to Amnesty International and the Tokyo Bar Association should a Japanese citizen resist making a confession, the police then often resort to torture. Such heinous police practices, the worst nightmare of any American concerned with civil liberties, are standard operating procedure in Japan.
Not only have the Japanese people lost freedoms most Americans consider to be precious, they have also lost control of their nation's destiny. When the Japanese peasants were forced to surrender their firearms and swords in 1588, they ensured for centuries thereafter the dominance of a sword-bearing Samurai aristocracy.
When the Japanese militarists rearmed in the beginning of the twentieth century the Japanese people, now without any weapons, had no means to thwart the militarists' path to world war.
Last year during a political corruption scandal, the Japanese military made veiled threats to take over if the problem were not fixed. All that stood between Japan and military rule was the good judgment of the military.
So if the Japanese cannot understand many Americans' love of firearms, it is due to Japan's failure to understand and protect the principles of freedom enshrined in our entire American Bill of Rights. And if the Japanese people recently paid a tragic price with the death of Yoshihiro Hattori for the American peoples' love of firearms, it is important to remember that we the American people in the recent past have a paid a far heavier price in war dead during the Second World War for the failure of the Japanese people to remain armed as a check against militarists and madmen in Japan seizing control of their government.
-Richard Griffiths - voteforblank, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14This is EXACTLY the kind of ***** these people are trying to get away from. Why they do it is of no concern to others.
They are Freemen.
NOT LIBERALS, NOT CONSERVATIVES, NOT ANYTHING. LIBERITARIANS ARE FREEMEN!
The same exact Freemen that brought this Country into existance. The problem is that most of you DON'T GET THAT. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16the point is to basically make new hampshire a beacon of freedom. they going there to influence people to make laws that would make the citizens more free. it's to set an example for the rest of the country of "hey, this is what freedom is supposed to be like. and guess what. it's working. we don't have mass killings or the majority of people cracked out on drugs. we're both free and happy, and no less safe than any of you". that's assuming of course that that is the case.
hopefully a million religious nuts won't move there and try to counter this one attempt at making a free state. i mean, they have already tried what they think would work on many states. and i think most people would agree that it doesn't work so well. at least as far as social/technological advancement goes. - jackminardi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12are you stupid?
california is going BACKWARD - cypherz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12In other news: Neocons start the "Nuke New Hampshire Project".
- SoxFanNH, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Wow thats hilarious, we do have some interesting laws in NH (no seatbelt law, no cycle helmets, etc) and now this...
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Yeah because Libertarians have been screwing things up for the last 100 years with laws, taxes and inefficient government programs or something?
I think the whole "big government" thing is a failure, and it's time to get rid of it. - Maniaca, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10It's an OK view, but really -- did you expect applause?
- Jolls, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12the whole thing about the FSP is not about 'your view' Mr "i have insecurities so I need to post my 500,000$ or more view that I took a loan out for for the next 50 years".
The FSP is about our country. As a gal I used to know said "get over your bad self" - dagnome1984, on 10/21/2007, -1/+9Maybe you should join the free lunch project. http://freelunchproject.com/
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I suppose the question you should ask...
Is it really better to get beaten with a baseball bat or stabbed to death... than shot?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1377781.stm - PoeticExplosion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The point is it's probably the *most* free state currently, and they want to keep it that way/move it closer to freedom.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7NH has colleges... Antioch, Dartmouth, Keene State, Franklin Peirce... etc
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Do they have blue eyes and worship the m'uad dib?
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Actually Oakes, it took 5 years to sign up 7000.
The first 1000 project is something different... The pledge ran for a single year to get 1000 people to commit to moving within 2 years.
Would you like some ketchup or perhaps some chocolate sauce to make your foot taste better?
I wonder if a lazy loudmouthed donothing douchbag such as yourself could ever make that type of commitment to anything outside of yourself that does good for the world and is charitable in nature. Perhaps there are lessons you could take in "buffoonary reduction" - perogi21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Actually we have a LACK of interesting laws...
- freestatelover, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11That is so sweet. I signed this back in Feb and I was not sure if it would happen. Glad to see it happen.
Here is the direct link, if you want to sign it, http://www.pledgebank.com/First1000 - cypherz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Yep, diluted. That's what libertarians are, diluted!
Propapanda, you're embarassing yourself. Troll. - Jassman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"The fact that you attack my character with terms like "lazy"
...and then you go on to call FSP members "cannibalists" and "pedophiles".
Ah... wasn't there some sort of saying involving a pot and a kettle? - Eicos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5A little update on Japanese police:
According to Wikipedia, Japanese local police do conduct biannual residential surveys. However, this is simply to collect information on where people may be located and contact phone numbers. Also, information is not stored in a federal database, but in the local koban boxes, of which there are thousands. And, most importantly, participation is VOLUNTARY. So much for the intrusive Japanese police force. - jackminardi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Digg is usually a pretty intelligent place"
Haha
That, my friend, was a good one. - lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I signed... Now I just need to find out how to immigrate to USA and settle down in New Hampshire. Call me a political refuge, escaping the clutches of communist Sweden.
Seriously I am really looking forward to a life where the governement doesn't interfere in my businesse, life and economy. I am definietly going for the last chance of freedom in my lifetime. - tkloppel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Perhaps Atlas will Shrug? (I highly doubt it...)
- Taors, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You gotta be ***** kidding me. NH is almost a libertarian paradise, compared to the rest of the states.
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Actually, I'm signed up and if this happens, I'll most certainly follow through with my plans. I love New Hampshire and the other New England states. I had already planned a move to Vermont, mostly due to the cold weather and snowboarding, but if this really does follow through, I'm all up for plans to move to New Hampshire.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@Eicos:
the goal is not to "save" it. that state was chosen because it is the closest thing to a free state in america. the people there are (apparently by looking at the laws) the most like minded individuals as far as freedom is concerned.
you'll have to excuse me, i automatically disliked your post when you used the word "liberalism". do not mistake libertarian for liberal (or at least what neo-cons would consider neo-libs) - ChineseRoom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5FTLJohnson- Love the Dune/Half-Life 2 references
idonthack- Not even gonna dignify you with a response
debt- Oh yeah, california is SOOOOO wonderful, cost of living is sky high, illegal aliens everywhere, an actor for a governer, oh yeah, cali is def not morally and intellectually bankrupt, no sir. /end sarcasm I am getting AWAY from this place because of people like you and socialism. Remember people, if you want handouts, stay in Cali (or whatever statist hell you are currently living in) . You want to be treated like an adult? Make decisions for yourself? Work hard for your money and be able to keep it without socialist pigs stealing it? Move to NH. - perogi21, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"You are moving from California to New Hampshire."
True, why move from the plastic people in California with the massive infrastructure problems, a bankrupt state govt., horrible traffic, crime, and pollution? - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, I heard that is something real too... but that's not so much a Project... as it is occuring in the PROJECTS... of Washington, DC.
These politicians have the worst crime rate in the country in their front yard. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@debt
What's wrong with NH? I like it just fine. - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually this figure is something we really like to see, since most of us support open borders, and and offering opportunity. Since we will be ridding ourselves of costly welfare programs and taxes... Immigration is a HUGE boon to a freedom loving society. It means a huge influx of new jobs and wealth creators. It means that with open borders, within a short period of time, New Hampshire could become the most populous and wealthy area on the continent. It is a good reason why we will need to focus on getting the education system out of the hands of the Government as well.
- MaxPayne3476, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Isn't NH only one township? :p I jest
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"You are moving from California to New Hampshire.
Yikes"
Exactly. Yikes, as in... "YIKES.... the cost of living is actually affordable and comfortable here (in NH)." - patch6, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I fully support this, and am strongly considering moving there in the next few years. It is a large step opposite the direction towards which the current administration is heading: a micromanaged dictatorial technocracy.
Power needs to be wrested from the few, back towards the many. - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wow, you really didn't pay attention at all if you were a member... well.. either that or you are just a plain moron. Judgeing by your last comment the work Jackass comes readily to mind.
Those 7000 people ARE committed.
These 1000 committed to move within 2 years of reaching 1000
The other 6000+ committed to move within 5 years of reaching 20,000
It's a different level of commitment. One that I think you, as a dropout and a *****... have little room to cast judgement upon. - lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Socialism is based on controlling people in economical decisions and moral decisions. Ie you become a slave under the state. So if you want to be a slave... Go ahead, I want stop you because unlike socialist I don't try to enforce my political ideologies by the means of governement. I can try to persuade you! But I will not force you.
- crash331, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Glad they made their goal. Once I get situated financially, I am thinking about making the move.
I've been getting a few calls this week from Mark Edge of Free Talk Live. Was beginning to think they wouldn't make it. - arunforce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4*Applause*
For the most useless/bragging comment. - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Actually, there was nothing clear at all about that reference.. as there never is... becuase the words liberal and conversative are nonsense garbage language.
Also, crime is not a function of population, but population plus gun control laws. The greater the guncontrol restrictions are in a densely populated area, the worse the violent crime rate is. (criminals feel safer knowing they are the only ones with guns besides the police)
When the NH police force is freed from having to go around harassing people for non-violent non-aggressive and victimless offenses, we will have a dirth of law enforcement available to free us from actual criminal and thugs. It will be nice to have a police force that you can actually respect as being helpful. (and not PIGS) - ChineseRoom, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15***** California, that horrible festering socialist ceaspool. Anyway, congrats to the FSP and everyone who supported this, but remember guys, now the REAL work begins. Getting 1000 people to sign up was the easy part, now lets see how many actually follow through with this. New Hampshire here I come!!!
- Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@Oakes: Don't judge people because they have realized that government must be gotten rid of faster than you.
- sp3tt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"some harmful ideals, cutting or even abolishing taxes for example"
I fail to see how reducing theft is harmful. - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the morgan freeman one didn't do much for you though eh?
“I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright. And when they fly away, the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up DOES rejoice. Still, the place you live in is that much more drab and empty that they're gone. I guess I just miss my friend.”
- Shawshank Redemption - diggdallas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6You must be a republican
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2or perhaps do they run around wearing the HEV MkV battlesuit whilst hitting headcrabs with a crowbar and throwing large objects with a gravity gun?
- Minsk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@pineapples10
The FSP is just trying to get people into New Hampshire. The idea of concentrating people pops up regularly, but I'd think spreading out is more likely to have an influence on the state-wide government. And less likely to annoy the residents of some small town with an overwhelming stampede of new arrivals :) - Eicos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@klaymen: Shilov is right to say that I am not confusing anything. I am myself an avowed liberal, and, although FTLJohnson correctly notes that the word has taken on an Orwellian sense in recent years, I still believe it fairly accurately describes my philosophical and political bent.
@FTLJohnson: Your (or is it Richard Griffiths'?) assertions about the supposed police-state of Japan are puzzling in their complete baselessness and lack of factual information. For example, the idea of police visiting homes and confiscating pornography is absurd, as anyone who knows anything about Japan knows that pornography is in fact even more available in that country than it is here.
Japan, though not without its own problems, is in every sense a modern liberal democracy, with rigorous human rights protections comparable to our own. None of the numerous abuses rattled off in your screed are cited, and even after considerable research I was unable to find any evidence of any of them, except on pro-gun websites which carry an identical copy of the essay.
Finally, the idea that armed militia elements within the civilian population can halt a determined government's ascent to totalitarian power is simply laughable. Whoever wrote this rant would do well to note that the recent, profound degradation of our own (US) government's freedoms has apparently gone unabated by the high gun ownership rate.
There are reasonable arguments to be made for gun ownership under certain circumstances on libertarian grounds, but your use of disinformation and propaganda belies the desperate state of the pro-gun movement. These despicable and ridiculous lies are made all the more silly by the fact that Japan is not even an appropriate test case for gun control laws, since Japan's low crime rate is obviously the result of its stratified and group-centric societal structure, of which strict gun control laws are simply an expression. -
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