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Fred Thompson Responds To Michael Moore

breitbart.tv — Senator Thompson responds to Michael Moore's letter and request to a debate.

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  • sjl127, on 10/11/2007, -105/+98I hope to hell he becomes our president...
    • inrain, on 10/11/2007, -91/+42Moore and Thompson have got to be in cahoots to play with the media and build each other's presence, for Moore's upcoming movie "Sicko" and Thompson's pending presidential bid. It's probably all fun. I hope. Otherwise, Thompson's response is too absurd to worry about it not making sense.

      Fred Thompson's response was playful, yes, but more foolish. Is his goal to continue to be a hypocrite with a Cuban cigar? Does he realize that the caricature of a big-shot-businessman isn't impressive? Moore may have his own foibles but at least he's trying to make people aware of some serious problems America has. Thompson doesn't even respond to the issues Moore presents. That's weak.
    • sonofdy1, on 10/11/2007, -88/+84Thompson just got my vote if he runs. Michael Moore is not worth the response.
    • donwilson2, on 10/11/2007, -93/+112God damn that was the coolest response ever.

      He just won my attention.
    • RuffRidr, on 10/11/2007, -87/+103@inrain
      You think Moore is doing all of this to make people aware of serious problems? Ya, I doubt that very much. Michael Moore is all about the money.
    • charlescheese, on 10/11/2007, -72/+75Thompson just moved WAY up in my esteem. You gotta love any politician that socks it to that douche bag.
    • Gophergreg, on 10/11/2007, -53/+52GIMME A "HELL YEAH!!!!!"
    • inrain, on 10/11/2007, -55/+32@RuffRidr

      Since when is making money a bad thing? Yes, I do think the underlying intention he has is to actually educate and expose some of the problems America has. Generally, the underlying motive of a lot of good filmmakers is a genuine belief/passion for what they're doing. Making money off something you put time into and want people to care about is a great thing. It means people want to actually see the films. Money gives people more options to make more of an impact.

      People are digging me down because they don't agree. Just know that I'm respectfully disagreeing. I respect all your opinions as well.
    • iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -52/+76"Yes, I do think the underlying intention he has is to actually educate and expose some of the problems America has."

      If he was trying to be honest he would have filmed the truth about health care in cuba
      http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm
    • sonofdy1, on 10/11/2007, -43/+38inrain:
      "Yes, I do think the underlying intention he has is to actually educate and expose some of the problems America has"

      HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

      Good one. Send me 20 bucks and i will tell you we have a problem with gas prices..

      Now get michael moore a sandwich, he looks a little thin.
    • bluto36, on 10/11/2007, -44/+48well i have to admit i am now a Fred Fan!
    • jeremy66158, on 10/11/2007, -45/+21There are too many idiots on here. I know if this gets to the front page it won't get many more diggs. Why debate him? Why not? debate him if you can win, don't if you know you will loose.
    • jeremy66158, on 10/11/2007, -57/+44http://digg.com/politics/Fred_Thompson_wusses_out_in_response_to_Michael_Moore
    • Fedge, on 10/11/2007, -45/+53If guns kill people, then spoons make Michael Moore Fat

      Shamelessly, I took this from a facebook group. But eloquent nonetheless.
    • donwilson2, on 10/11/2007, -27/+23This finally made the front page. Excellent!
    • audiowizard, on 10/11/2007, -59/+73meh, he's lame and that was weak...
    • OutOfMyBase16, on 10/11/2007, -27/+8only one thing came to mind when i watched this: Dr.Claw
    • audiowizard, on 10/11/2007, -81/+65I just read Moore's letter...it has substance, it trumps the senators numbskull video.....all of you swinging on the senators balls must have a mental handicap. Go read a book Tarzan.

      mehehehehe
    • nerd05, on 10/11/2007, -51/+114If, after watching a 30 second clip of a senator jumping to the conclusion that Moore and Castro are friends and making a quick joke about it (that was likely written by someone else) while clearly doing it in the form of an overacted commercial, you suddenly would vote for him as president, I can now understand how Bush got elected.

      Not to say anything for/against Moore/Thompson, but FFS.
    • mistarojaz, on 10/11/2007, -37/+8Oh that Ron Paul hes so great!! OMG he called michael moore a retard instead of actually giving a legitimate response- he so has my vote!!! LOL i can't wait till he's in power and he's telling our world leaders to ***** off and commit themselves!!! And that Cigar? What a classy guy!!!!
    • milo3600, on 10/11/2007, -30/+16@fedge No way am I defending Michael Moore, but juvenile remarks like that don't help the debate. Gun control to reduce gun deaths and "spoon control" to reduce obesity are not equally logical.
    • AmzngSpidey, on 10/11/2007, -17/+10@mistarojaz - Not ronpaul. Fred Dalton Thompson.
    • mistarojaz, on 10/11/2007, -27/+6ahh *****, i said Ron Paul instead of Fred Thompson. Damn it, i always ***** ruin my jokes.
    • EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -36/+61If all FT needs to do to impress some of you is put a cigar in his mouth and spin his chair around dramatically, you're hopeless. You've been spending way too much time watching television.

      If Thompson ever shows up at a debate, what's he going to do, order close-ups and special mood lighting? Does he come with his own soundtrack, like on TV? Maybe a fog machine or an audience "ooh and ah" track?
    • streak, on 10/11/2007, -35/+26Stupid comeback, Fred. You're trying to look and behave like an elitist, but I've seen Paris Hilton. Paris Hilton was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Paris Hilton.
    • haleym, on 10/11/2007, -43/+44God damn that was the lamest response ever.

      He just lost my attention.
    • Charlotte_Web, on 10/11/2007, -7/+26Wow, this gets even better!

      Fox News is reporting that Michael Moore is under investigation by the Treasury Department for his trip to Cuba, which may have been in violation of the trade embargo restricting travel to Cuba. Woo hoo!

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272558,00.html
    • streak, on 10/11/2007, -12/+5Fred is also under investigation for sucking Cubans.
    • ramiro, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11Holy cow! That was the best thing I've heard from prez candidates so far.
    • BabyWookie, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1@ iceperson:

      Got better sources than that lame propaganda site?
    • lateralus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Moore isn't running, but I still agree with you.
  • kneecapd, on 10/11/2007, -67/+62AWESOME response. Now that is a guy that I want as my president.
    • misterjangles, on 10/11/2007, -31/+69Digg is just blowing my mind today. You guys fall in love with this fat-cat because he smokes Cuban cigars and tells a hilarious story about throwing dissenting journalists into a mental institution? WTF!?
    • PhoneGuy, on 10/11/2007, -35/+18I recently returned from a great vacation in Cuba.

      It was warm, the people were nice and best of all - there were no self-important American tourists to watch drink pop for breakfast.

      Castro and the Kennedy had a pissing contest years ago ... Fidel is still smoking Cohiba's and Kennedy is dead. (Fidel likely pulled the trigger!)

      Like him or not, he led a revolution to throw out a corrupt, American backed president that used a coup to gain power when it became evident that he would handily be defeated in the upcoming election. Good old American democracy - sounds a lot like how George W. became president. Fidel nationalized everything in the country and gave free health care and education to everyone.

      Health care and education for everyone ... think about that the next time you pay a doctor $10,000 to remove the wrong kidney and leave a few sponges inside you.


    • analisa, on 10/11/2007, -17/+11Wow what a country in your dreams!
  • AmzngSpidey, on 10/11/2007, -44/+42This guy knows how to send a message!
  • BryMan29, on 10/11/2007, -51/+45It will be nice to have an articulate person in the white house.
    • analisa, on 10/11/2007, -25/+19Are you talking about Micheal Moore perhaps?
      What do you consider articulate? Being able to slam someone on video with a written script? Politics is so deceptive,did you get schmoozed?
      Take the time to read Moore's letter
    • AmzngSpidey, on 10/11/2007, -17/+8@analisa

      Everyone can see from your profile that you are a sockpuppet. ronpaulie perhaps?
    • audiowizard, on 10/11/2007, -11/+16Damn...I thought 'Idiocracy' was a comedy movie, not a prophetic vision of the days to come....

      let's find the 'Time Masheen' analisa = } We're surrounded by evolution gone horribly wrong...

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
  • RasThavas, on 10/11/2007, -58/+50Mr. Thompson treats Moore like the corpulent insect that he is. Moore is just a frak'n Ellsworth Toohey wannabe. Can I vote NOW?
    • Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -13/+33Ayn Rand fans aren't allowed to vote. You must retire to your hidden valley and leave society to collapse.
  • kingygk, on 10/11/2007, -37/+29This is great!
  • markgl, on 10/11/2007, -32/+15FACE...
  • trendygamer, on 10/11/2007, -40/+35More impressive is the VERY fast turnaround on this response:

    http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/2007/05/15/fred-thompson-a-most-unusual-candidate/

    Moore's challenge came out this morning and Fred's response was up by noon? If Thompson finally decides to throw his hat in the ring, he has a good chance at being an absolutely devastating candidate with this kind of rapid (and effective) response.
    • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -26/+11Sure it wasn't a planned publicity stunt by the globalists?
  • Antebios, on 10/11/2007, -37/+23I LOVE FRED THOMPSON, even though I don't agree with all Conservative issues.
  • mynitim, on 10/11/2007, -20/+41Great stuff. Here's the original letter from Moore if interested: http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm
  • Drexus, on 10/11/2007, -45/+10Wow. I guess there is Bush supporters after all.
    • RuffRidr, on 10/11/2007, -25/+21What does this have to do with Bush?
    • sjl127, on 10/11/2007, -18/+27It has nothing to do with Bush - just a pathetic attempt to... nevermind.
    • Gophergreg, on 10/11/2007, -19/+28"ARE" Bush supporters. And we speak English well.
  • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -40/+33Haha, look at the fanboys drool over their unqualified candidate.
    • Beatmiser, on 10/11/2007, -13/+15Hang on there genius...I wasn't aware that Fred Thompson was a candidate.
    • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -15/+16@Beat...

      Oh please... He's a candidate, announced or not. He isn't a Senator anymore and he's pumping out political crap to drum up support for his run, which will fail.
    • gojeda, on 10/11/2007, -10/+17Well, no one is more unqualified than Obama - so what is your point?
    • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -8/+11@gojeda

      Who gives a crap about Obama?
  • eagle22s, on 10/11/2007, -23/+13ROFLMAO
  • vvaduva, on 10/11/2007, -26/+12I have something to say too: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
  • jeremy66158, on 10/11/2007, -34/+23http://digg.com/politics/Fred_Thompson_wusses_out_in_response_to_Michael_Moore
  • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -33/+22Ron Paul is tearin' up the Fox debates and his performance in the MSNBC debates clearly influenced the other candidates gameplan. Where is Fred? Oh, he's bangin' swords with fatty Moore, what a tough guy!
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -26/+5I thought Paul was a no one in the MessNBC debates, his performance there was laughable. On Fox News, Ron Paul kicked some ass.
  • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -32/+37Did anyone read Moore's letter??? He accused Thompson of support castro by buying Cuban cigars, then noted that Thompson attacked him for trying to paint Cuba in a good light. As much as I want Thompson to win and Moore to fail, I think Michael Moore had a point here. Just what type of cigar was Fred smoking in that video?

    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

    [quote]Putting aside the fact that you, like the Bush Administration, seem far more concerned about the trip to Cuba than the health care of these 9/11 heroes, I was struck by the fact that your concerns (including comments about CastroÕs reported financial worth) apparently do not extend to your own conduct, as reported in The Weekly Standard's April 23, 2007 story, "From the Courthouse to the White House Fred Thompson auditions for the leading role" (emphasis added):

    "Thompson's work space looks just like what the home office of a successful politician or CEO should look like -- though a little messier: a large desk, dark wood, leather furniture, lots of books and magazines and newspapers, a flat-screen TV, and box upon box of cigars -- Montecristos from Havana." [http://weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=13528&R=1136E33842]

    In light of your comments regarding Cuba and Castro, do you think the "box upon box of cigars -- Montecristos from Havana" that you have in your office have contributed to CastroÕs reported wealth? [/quote]

    And I'll reiterate... I ***** HATE MICHAEL MOORE. He does seem to have a point here, though.
    • datarefuge, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12You are aware that the "Cuban" cigars Thompson was smoking are hand rolled in the Dominican Republic and aren't Cuban right?
    • niczar, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5"Montecristos from Havana" are supposed to be made in Havana, Cuba.

      Or is the Weekly Standard lying?
      • dbwood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hey idiot. Montecristos are not exported from Cuba. "Today, Altadis U.S.A. operates production facilities in the Dominican Republic, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Alabama and Florida." (Altadis website). You can buy montecristos at virtually any cigar shop in the United States.
  • AlphaEta, on 10/11/2007, -35/+30I see I've landed in the "let's kiss Thompson's ass" thread.

    As far as I'm concerned both of these losers are unworthy of our attention.
    • Fieri, on 10/11/2007, -17/+11Note to self: All support for any candidate equates to ass-kissing.

      ?? Are we not allowed to support a candidate without being called mindless drones? Thompson is an articulate man with class for whom I would be proud to pull the lever.
  • FlaG8r, on 10/11/2007, -26/+21Oh crap, a new Ron Paul has come to Digg.

    All the candidates are going to be gaming Digg within months.
  • FAT_PIGGY, on 10/11/2007, -23/+7LOL

    Ron Paul 2008
  • lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -34/+60What an ass... can you imagine if a democratic candidate made such a response? The right wing media would be freaking out for weeks, demanding he drop out of the race... instead, acting like a bastard is making him into a republican saint.. i guess it makes sense.. still unbelieveable, nonetheless....

    • dbwood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Defending himself is being a bastard. I see. Why don't you post all of the news stories and lets see what parties are looked at negatively the most in the media. Let's look at how the media truly reflects. Idiot.
  • JJsays, on 10/11/2007, -24/+8Who "cringed" when they saw the cigar, Monica, Bill of Hillary?

  • deambrosejr, on 10/11/2007, -20/+12http://draftfredthompson.com
    • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -14/+12Is that like the same as the sites calling for Jenna and Barbara Bush to get drafted and fight in Iraq?
    • Winghunter, on 10/11/2007, -8/+5Run, Fred, RUN!!!

      Digg is a cesspool of the lunatic left...I'll help change that very shortly. Hope you schnooks enjoyed your reign, it's all over except for your whining.
  • NecroSexy, on 10/11/2007, -12/+46A 38 s clip and suddenly he's the next president, that's the interweb for ya
    • livestradamus, on 10/11/2007, -8/+27no, that's our politics for you...
    • R0cc0, on 10/11/2007, -16/+12Sen. Fred Thompson
      I hate that guy almost as much as I hate all the current AND future Law and Order spin-offs.

      Fred Thompson is an effing spin-off.... "i'm a senatore. i'm an actor. i am a senator/actor!"

      What does this say about the state of politics in this country?!?!!!??

      GOD!!
      It's like all the morons are secretly feeling guilty for not giving a flying ***** about this country, so when an election or a discussion comes up they look for a name THEY ACTUALLY KNOW!!

      Who better than the guy on that show that brainwashes them!!!
      (BTW, the 'Law and Order'es are even more brainwashy than "24" IMO)

      I'M SERIOUS!!!
      I really think this is how people think... It's all about who's more talked about... Or who SEEMS to SYMBOLIZE their values.

      It's all superficial!!!

      I bet that if there was a poll taken of Fred Thompson's supporters,
      when asked to describe His character or values the responses would actually only correlate
      to the Judge He PLAYS on TELEVISION!!!!

      Tell me I'm wrong!! I dare you.

      Tell me there wouldn't be descriptions of him as being 'Honest' or 'Genuine' or 'Determined'
      Empty, Artificial, Ridiculous.

      Actors are professional liars... and so are some politicians.

      Here's what the New York Times said about Mr. Thompson's Characterizations on screen:
      (from his Wiki)

      "The glowering, hulking Mr. Thompson has played a White House chief of staff,
      a director of the Central Intelligence Agency, a highly placed F.B.I. agent,
      a rear admiral, even a senator.
      When Hollywood directors need someone who can personify governmental power,
      they often turn to him."

      Sounds like good news for the Neo-Cons.
      I am so disgusted right now.
      goodnight.
    • R0cc0, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Also Ron Paul.
    • NecroSexy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3livestradamus, opinions aren't politics
  • clkou, on 10/11/2007, -26/+35Yeah, guys, that's just what we need: another Republican. It's called common sense. Go get some.
    • Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -23/+9Another Republican? Bush is big gov't globalist, like Fred... neither are Republican by anything other than name.
    • bonjovisucks, on 10/11/2007, -20/+13Yeah, just what we need: someone else to judge all Republicans by the actions of one administration. It's called bent. Go get it.
  • edebolt, on 10/11/2007, -19/+18I have to say that was smooth FT. Moore is on pretty shaky ground. Big deal Chavez and Castro forked out for some free medical care to embarrass the US and Moore was just a tool. If MM was really interested in getting those soldiers good medical care he would have taken them to India, Thailand or Costa Rica which are all three good values and have modern facilities. In Cuba its so bad patients can only get most drugs or simple sutures on the black market. MM's actions probably just means that even more Cubans will be without medical support. Its interesting to note that Cuba has the highest suicide rate of North, South and Central America... Must be doing a great job down there with that Govt.





    • Winghunter, on 10/11/2007, -8/+8Well said edebolt. Thanks for bringing a little reality to this knee-jerk world of Libs.

      Tick-tock kids, your time is nearly up.
  • jetcopter, on 10/11/2007, -13/+17Michael Moore blew up Team America HQ. Screw him!
  • Nirgaul, on 10/11/2007, -18/+34Well, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...Of course in this case, its an accurate substitute for the phallus of big business that these self-serving "conservative" yokels are chugging on.

    At the heart of "Sicko", Michael Moore's film, is the valid topic of how health care in america is an ailing concept. The connection between Washington and this industry is tighter than ever, and becoming more crooked all the time. Take the Carlyle Group, for example. Former members of the organization include none other than James Baker III, Donald Rumsfeld, George HW Bush, and George W Bush. One of Carlyle's subsidiaries is also one of the biggest healthcare organizations in this country. It is a classic case of political arbitrage.

    "Sicko" is a worthy effort to bring this problem to the public.
    • Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -13/+7...and it will have just as much effect as Moore's other efforts. Oh well.
    • dbwood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sicko is propaganda.
  • msmayhew, on 10/11/2007, -19/+14The cigar is actually Fred Thompson's smart ass response to Michael Moore. Michael was whining about Fred Thompson buying cuban cigars....
    • MrMacMan, on 10/11/2007, -8/+26So by showing he is still flaunting the US-Cuban embargo... thats a good thing? Doesn't that just prove moore's point?
    • bubba9999, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Hey - that embargo is only 30 years old. It should start working any day now.
    • datarefuge, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7The cigar Thompson was smoking isn't made in Cuba. It's hand rolled in the Dominican Republic. Granted, they USED to be made in Cuba, but that's changed nowadays. Michael Moore is mistaken here.
    • Mercymillennium, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1"" The cigar Thompson was smoking isn't made in Cuba. It's hand rolled in the Dominican Republic. Granted, they USED to be made in Cuba, but that's changed nowadays. Michael Moore is mistaken here.""

      Micheal moore is not mistaken at all. He took the quote from a newspaper that interviewed "Mr law and order" They might be from Cuba they might not. Seems iffy either way.

      I'm kinda surprised on 2 things.

      1. Didn't Bruce Willis tell all actors to STFU nobody cares? Fred Thompson needs to listen. or I guess we do need to care WTF actors think.

      2. Who cares what how scumy MM is? If someone you hate tells you that your house is on FIRE it does not matter how much you hate him your still going to be paying a morgage on a pile of ash. Get the facts and start looking out for your best interests. If health care is messed up the devil himself can tell me and if its true I'll still work to fix the problem.

      Be less a lemming/tool and use that grey matter between your ears. Healthcare in america is all jacked up.
    • friday1970, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The only difference between the actors that Bruce Willis mentioned and FT is that FT was a U.S. Senator from Tennessee. FT has actually had experience in politics from the U.S. Senate and knows a few things about how the US should function. The actors that Bruce Willis mentioned are only fortunate enough because of America itself, with our freedoms to make stupid movies, allowing horrible actors the abilities to make millions, giving these actors a self imposed green light to shoot off their mouths about the stupidest things.

      While not an actress, anyone remember Celine Dion screaming that the looters stealing TV's in New Orleans should be allowed to "touch those thing for once"? Did anyone remember Celine Dion also opening the doors of her own personal mansions to allow homeless folk to "touch those things for once", meaning her nice TV's and furniture? Well, that never happened.. Just another hypocrite celebrity.
    • Mercymillennium, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0""The only difference between the actors that Bruce Willis mentioned and FT is that FT was a U.S. Senator from Tennessee. FT has actually had experience in politics from the U.S. Senate and knows a few things about how the US should function. The actors that Bruce Willis mentioned are only fortunate enough because of America itself, with our freedoms to make stupid movies, allowing horrible actors the abilities to make millions, giving these actors a self imposed green light to shoot off their mouths about the stupidest things. ""

      FT was a actor before he was a sanator. He worked his ability to act into a political position. He did not have diddly experience before he got elected. I'd like to see some proof he knows how america should function as well. Your making a assumption that looking at republicans past 6 years I am not going to buy. Your also wrong about our freedoms making actors work. All over the world are actors in a host of different countires who make a ton of money on movies and I don't know a single actor whos only made "stupid" movies whos rich. You might find a few who have starred in bombs but they stared in good movies too. Crappy actors just don't get a lot of money to star in a flick. Hell stupid movies generally don't make any money anyhow. Cat women sure as hell did not beat out lord of the rings for money, and waterworld lost money.

    • JohnReb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Mercymillennium: "FT was a actor before he was a sanator. He worked his ability to act into a political position. He did not have diddly experience before he got elected. I'd like to see some proof he knows how america should function as well."

      Actually, Fred was in government before he was an actor. He was co-chief counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee, he wrote the question Sen. Baker asked "What did the President know and when did he know it?", and he himself asked the question "Mr. Butterfield, are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the President?".

      After that he worked as a lobbyist for a few years and in 1977 was involved in the 1977 Ray Blanton-Tennessee Parole Board scandal where he was part of the effort that removed Ray Blanton from office for selling pardons.

      His very first acting job was in the movie Marie about that Blanton scandal where he played himself. In other words, he "worked his ability" in government service into an acting position.
  • mhale85, on 10/11/2007, -19/+43Superb. He cleverly questions Moore's sanity (argumentum ad hominem) and then points to Moore's film as an endorsement of the Cuban political regime. The film makes a comparison between Cuba's health care system and the health care system of the United States. Where is Fred Thompson's plan to cover the uninsured? Where is Fred Thompson when it comes time to address the issues faced by those who seek insurance with preexisting conditions? Where is Fred Thompson when it comes to addressing the rising costs of health care?

    A real leader would not submit a 40 second ad to cheapen the discourse, but would respond with substance and respect. There's no better way of deflating the political ego of an opponent.
    • dustyshadow, on 10/11/2007, -17/+8where is michael moore's plan?
    • mikesbaker, on 10/11/2007, -19/+13moore doesn't have respectable debates. he is an ass. My first of his work I saw was Bowling for Columbine. Though I didn't agree with him on most of his points I liked his presentation until the end. When he ambushed Heston as his house. He then rapid fired a bunch of questions and threw him off balance. Congrats Michael Moore, you confused an old man with Alzheimer's. Thats hard hitting. That video would have not worked at all had he tried to spew his bad data at Wayne LaPierre (who for those of you don't know is the head of the NRA just not the celebrity one). Now, he took a handful of people to Cuba to get treatment because they have 9/11 cancer. This is a fact only because he says it is. There were a huge number of people in NY who breathed 9/11 dust so it would be very easy to find a bunch who both developed cancer after 9/11 and want free stuff be it medical treatment or money or their 15 minutes. And socialized medicine is great if you have a cold but generally suck ass if you are really sick or get in a bad accident.
    • mhale85, on 10/11/2007, -11/+26@dustyshadow: Moore is not a potential presidential candidate, nor has he ever held elective office. He is a filmmaker not a policy wonk. Thompson claims to be the latter, so the burden is on him to develop a plan if he wishes to be taken seriously.

      @mikesbaker: If Heston was so frail and weak so as not to be able to debate gun control with a movie-maker, he should not have been the president AND spokesman of one of the most powerful lobbies on Capitol Hill, nor should he have engaged in the interview. LaPierre's role in the NRA organization took on a much more public role only after Heston retired in 2003.

      As for the content of the film, and the people suffering health issues as a result of the 9/11 attacks, there's a simple principle to which I adhere: health care is a right, not a privilege. For those suffering chronic illness, access to health care means the ability to stay alive. If those people unfortunate enough to be affected by the 9/11 attacks cannot afford to have their illnesses treated, there should be some means by which they can attain quality care.
    • dustyshadow, on 10/11/2007, -13/+6mhale,
      please point me to the part of the constitution that says health care is a right.
    • mhale85, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14"Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.
      The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

      It's a right if we demand it. I never said it was an enumerated Constitutional right. I'll also remind you that the document is not immutable; an amendment establishing a right to health care in the constitution is entirely possible.
    • lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8"And socialized medicine is great if you have a cold but generally suck ass if you are really sick or get in a bad accident."

      Actually, it's the other way around... If you are really sick, it is very difficult, even with insurance, to afford "Free market" care (I use quotes around "Free market" since there is very little competition in our system).

      Thanks,

      Mike
    • BeardDob, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Moore is nothing more than a tool trying to stir up attention for his new movie. Thompson is going to get some attention too while he is at it. Money and Politics ... vote and shut up.


    • kingraoul3, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5Not to mention the 8,400,000 million uninsured children in this country.
      Not a single Cuban child goes without health care or housing.
    • kingraoul3, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6@mikesbaker
      "There were a huge number of people in NY who breathed 9/11 dust so it would be very easy to find a bunch who both developed cancer after 9/11 and want free stuff be it medical treatment or money or their 15 minutes. And socialized medicine is great if you have a cold but generally suck ass if you are really sick or get in a bad accident."

      If it sucks ass why are they going to Cuba to get cancer treament? Thats nothing like having a cold. An island nation impoverished by a 60 year embargo from the most powerful country in the world can offer them better treatment...
      hmmmm......
    • gojeda, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5"@dustyshadow: Moore is not a potential presidential candidate.."

      Neither is Fred Thomspon.

      "nor has he ever held elective office. He is a filmmaker not a policy wonk."

      So? Just because he is a filmaker and not a politico means he is absolved from putting in the brainpower to come up with an alternate plan?

      I am sorry to break this news to you, but if one enters into the arena of publics (which is what Moore does in each on of his films), one should be prepared to offer a little more to the discourse than puerile foot-stomping hissy fits. Hiding behind the thin veil of Hollywood does not absolve one of accountability.

      "Thompson claims to be the latter, so the burden is on him to develop a plan if he wishes to be taken seriously."

      Perhaps, also, you should tell Ms. Pelosi the same thing - since neither she nor her party has a political platform to speak of outside of saying, "The Republicans are out of touch." A protest vote a political platform does not make.

      "As for the content of the film, and the people suffering health issues as a result of the 9/11 attacks, there's a simple principle to which I adhere: health care is a right, not a privilege."

      You might want to tell this to the average Cuban who has a great deal of trouble procuring a roll toilet paper, much less a clean hospital bed.

      "For those suffering chronic illness, access to health care means the ability to stay alive. If those people unfortunate enough to be affected by the 9/11 attacks cannot afford to have their illnesses treated, there should be some means by which they can attain quality care."

      Of course, but that is not the point of Moore's film. If Moore wanted to highlight the positive things about socialized medicine, he would have done himself a favor by visiting countries such as those in Scandinanvia or even Canada. But Moore is a propagandist and sensationalist, not a serious documentarist.

      The irony out of all of this is that before the Cuban Revolution, medicine was free as it is today. However, that is an inconvenient detail Mr. Moore does not want you to know and, therefore, will never mention in his film.

      As I have mentioned elsewhere, I will fully expect for Mr. Moore to show up in Havana at the same hospital seen here in the event he needs medical work done:
      http://therealcuba.com/kubac298.jpg
    • BabyWookie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1@gojeda:

      Too bad that you link to an abvious, lame, deceitful anti-Cuban propaganda site ran by the Batistas.
    • mhale85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@gojeda

      Fred Thompson is a POTENTIAL presidential candidate, I never said that he is already a candidate.
      http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/fred-thompson/

      Additionally, take a look at his experience in that profile. See that section on positions held? Where it says he's an American Enterprise Institute Fellow for Public Policy Research? That means that he's the policymaker, not Michael Moore.

      If it makes you feel any better, I hold Thompson to a much higher standard than Moore. I know that Moore doesn't try to elevate the debate as much as he tries to get headlines and make money; that's his job. I don't expect, nor do I think it's reasonable to demand, for Michael Moore to come up with an alternative health care system.

      As for the Democratic Party platform on the reforms necessary for the health care system and myriad other issues, I largely agree. I understand, however, that the current Congress will wait to unveil a number of meaningful policy initiatives until the second year of its term. It's an election year. That's politics. They also need to gang up on the Republicans and highlight some of the mismanagement before they can justify wild policy changes and pressure the Republican members of Congress to vote for wild policy changes. That's politics.

      As for the reality of life in Cuba, I'm sure there are many abuses of human rights, just as there are those who are provided for. I don't know what it's like for "the average Cuban," but I don't think you do either. You only have a conspiratorial website (the origin of it's content and its funding are not published on the site and none of the stories are attributed to anyone in particular) to tell you what to think about Castro and Cuba.

      I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say in the last couple of sentences. What medicine was free? Why do you rely on shock value to score your final point? You were doing so well before.

      I'm not sure what is in your background that makes you care so deeply about this issue, but it seems that you have some genuine interest in this topic. Are you or some of your family Cuban emigres?
  • Armor1901, on 10/11/2007, -15/+9It was FUNNY, why do some of you have to bitch and get all serious about the fact that people found it amusing?

    nerd05:
    "If, after watching a 30 second clip of a senator jumping to the conclusion that Moore and Castro are friends and making a quick joke about it (that was likely written by someone else) while clearly doing it in the form of an overacted commercial, you suddenly would vote for him as president, I can now understand how Bush got elected.

    Not to say anything for/against Moore/Thompson, but FFS."

    So you DO recognize it as comedic? Then shut the hell up, "FFS"
    • mhale85, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14Tell that to someone with a chronic health issue or a terminal illness who cannot afford insurance.

      This is the stuff of life and death. We complain about the nature of the debate in the United States because everything is a joke to our leaders. Try taking something seriously for once in your life. Maybe our leaders might do so as well.
    • kingraoul3, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1Where's the Ron Paul in '08 tag? I thought that was the standard way to sign off on any Digg post now.
  • accidental, on 10/11/2007, -16/+19Fred: Pussy
    • Winghunter, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Accidental: Darwin's Nominee but, not for long eh?
  • nick111, on 10/11/2007, -15/+16So how is this not just another ad-hominum?

    At least Michael Moore deals with issues. No issues in this clip, just another cheap smear.

    When are you people going to grow out of this *****?
    • mikesbaker, on 10/11/2007, -13/+6no he doesn't - see my above comment for what I am talking about. He just took one of Moore's cheap shots and used it on him.
    • dustyshadow, on 10/11/2007, -16/+8michael moore deals with issues!? Ha!

      You're funny.
  • PainCompliance, on 10/11/2007, -15/+9Just so some of you numbnuts know, cigars can still be labeled 'Cuban' even though they are grown and manufactured in places like Columbia, Honduras etc. they are grown with "Cuban' seeds and often times made by people who were cigar makers in Cuba but fled when Castro took over.

    I have a feeling that the next President of the United States, be he Thompson or someone else, has not yet announced his candidacy. Time will tell if I am correct, but I have a strong feeling I am.

    Oh, and ***** Michael Moore.
    • lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4And those "cuban" cigars aren't worth *****... No one would be proud of them, nor would they go to any length of trouble to get "cuban seed" cigars that aren't from Cuba. Their value mostly lies in the forbidden place they come from... Cuba.

      Thanks,

      Mike
    • Winghunter, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3Take a look at the web PainCompliance...No question about it. Fred Dalton Thompson - 44th President of The United States of America.
  • fsjonsey, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7THOMPSOWNED!
  • iSmart, on 10/11/2007, -9/+16diggbats, return to your cave.
  • VEKrueger, on 10/11/2007, -12/+5That was some epic win there.
  • ninethirty, on 10/11/2007, -13/+9The only thing that bugs me worse than Michael Moore is the idiots that need to hate him out loud. So what, he's an idiot...but he's a harmless idiot. Start worrying about the idiots that actually affect your life - until then, shutup.
    • the6thReplicant, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8Ditto. Maybe we should watch the film first and see what it's trying to say.

      I guess the right-wingers don't want us to see Sicko as a movie about Health Care but for us to see it as a pro-Castro movie. I wonder if the Cuba thing is a small part of the movie. But the again it just continues the trend:
      Bowling for Columbine: Neocons: "It's an anti-gun movie." No, it's a movie that changed my mind about gun-control (we don't need it). It's about how we scare ourselves into a need to shoot first, ask questions later.
      Fahrenheit 9/11: Neocons: "It supports terrorists." No, it's a movie that says going into Iraq was a mistake, meanwhile we're feeding the terrorist's propaganda and ignoring the forces needed to capture Bin Laden.

      Well that's my selective take on it. So why the hate?
  • edebolt, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4I wonder why MM does not try running for an office like Congress. With all his popularity and supporters he should be able to win a seat no problem. George Soros alone could bankroll him. Of course then he would have to lead and get things done as opposed to just sitting on the sidelines hurling invective.

    As glib and smooth as Thompson is with his acting skills he does not have much of a chance of being elected. Too old and with that spot shows his arrogance. A lot of voters don't like smokers anyway. He might do as well as Pat Buchanan did a few years ago. Probably about the same odds of Paul or Gravel which are very low. Yeah reality is a bitch.

    I just hope we do not have another repeat of 2000 in Florida where no chance in hell Ralph Nader's 100K votes gave the election to Bush... Talk about a wasted trip to the voting machines.




    • Winghunter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Ohh now, you screwed up here. Try voting for someone with a clue and you won't have that problem.
  • jassibi, on 10/11/2007, -13/+16He doesn't have time to talk to Michael Moore, but he does have time to make this video comeback. What courage.
  • vondur, on 10/11/2007, -17/+6Ha! pwned! and, to top it off. Michael Moore is fat. pwned again!
    • audiowizard, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8Wow dude, you're 12, and your pwned jokes are ready to grow up...you need some beef on your jokes...like you've noticed Michael Moore has...Some people will never get passed the fart, fat, and f*ck jokes.

      These same people will probably never experience love for humanity, the joy of education, or aqcuire the tase for fine beer.

      No wonder they miss the useful insights Michael Moore so blatently and carefully lays out in his documentaries.

      *ok, I'm ready for the next fat joke.
  • morriscat, on 10/11/2007, -13/+18So all I have learned here is that politicians and big business HATE it when their standard weapon, propaganda, is used by an individual.

    And they really really hate it when somebody does it better.

    This Thompson guy is a douchebag, Moore however, is doing something that has been sorely needed for years: throwing FUD back at the gross polluters of the FUD industry.

    And all you Republican Digg-gaming douchebags can stick the FUD up your ass. Oh, wait, thats where it comes from...
  • infra172, on 10/11/2007, -14/+6Fred Thompson brought down Nixon. He would make a great president.
  • richmondphotog, on 10/11/2007, -8/+18Health care in America is ***** up! Big time. How many of you actually pay into a health plan? Those who do, like through a group care plan like....lets say through work, etc.... the moment you get anything serious, like Cancer, your job (and plan) won't hesitate to drop your ass (for the benefit of the many of course HA HA HA, ha?). Michael Moore was responding to an investigation made by conservatives into his filming in Cuba. He took 9/11 sufferers there to get treatment to make a point on why America can't provide the same services. And conservatives as usual are calling him a "trade embargo breaker" or traitor or whatever. And BOLD Thompson says something stupid on tape with a ***** CUBAN cigar in his mouth (hypo ***** crit) and everybody salivates? "PWNED" tee hee. (gay word "pwned" and I am not homophobic!). I concur with jassibi who is 2 posts above me.

    How is America's healthcare crisis a Joke? Explain this to me. I am not a Michael Moore ass kisser but he is right on and speaks the truth. Is this stuff not on your minds or are all of you 10 yrs old?
    • kingraoul3, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3I've wondered about this in forums myself. Maybe it's the wealthy slant of the computer owning / internet having demographic.
      I can say for certain that people who find this funny, or his response adequate, have high quality healthcare.
    • PainCompliance, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Problem is he DOESN'T speak the truth. If he did it might be a different reaction. He cuts and splices pieces of film together to fit his narrative and hopes people won't see that the person he's saying is in Detroit has the Miami skyline behind him. If he actually would stick with facts he might have a smidgen of credibility. But to have that you first need integrity, and sadly he has zero.
  • HallEffected, on 10/11/2007, -8/+4wait was he serious with that? because the whole turning around in his chair suavely with an unlit cigar in his mouth kind of did it for me.
  • wiremonkeymommy, on 10/11/2007, -12/+10***** you Thompson, go debate!


  • WraithEater, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2chill out dudes. You do realise that if Fred decides to run, he will be your next prez? Show some respect!
  • 1newyorkguy, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5thompson just got OWNED. does he really think he has a chance in hell to win the presidency anyhow? he really doesn't.
  • 1newyorkguy, on 10/11/2007, -8/+7health care is a RIGHT not a privilege only to be had by the wealthy. that is, in every other industrialized nation except for the US
  • safiire, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2You might as well just vote Oprah for president and get it the ***** over with.
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