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- dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -13/+115Suddenly I have a craving for some freedom fries.
- musicmantrs, on 10/12/2007, -6/+71When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. - dreicher, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46"The government has also proposed a certification system for Web sites, blog hosters, mobile-phone operators and Internet service providers, identifying them as government-approved sources of information if they adhere to certain rules."
Well see, there's a certification system run by the government, so there is CLEARLY nothing to be concerned about here. - aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40Shame on France, the French revolution, the love of freedom and the suffrage of men...obviously well in the past. This world has gone to *****.
- Asianwaste, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Reports of violence would cause all of the citizens of France to surrender and flee the country.
- 1911wolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Remember kids: If you can't see it, it never happened! ;-)
- strabes, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33Punish the masses to prevent the few, huh? I bet you hate guns.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29I'm coming for YOU Ricky Bobby.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+33They put up with it because they couldn't fight back. Thank you Second Amendment.
Keep that in mind every time the democrats call for more gun control. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Control control control.
I feel sick. - morel42, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27
God we in the US have some major problems, but Christ not this bad.. - strabes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22There goes Western Europe again. Criminalizing things that don't hurt anyone. You see a long time ago John Locke had this idea about government...oh forget it.
- Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22I find it increasingly Ironic that the Statute of Liberty is French Engineering.
- Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21It's all good as long as nobody has their "feelings" hurt.
- saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Liberté. Egalité. Fraternité.
Pas ici. - baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23"democrats call for more gun control."
dont be so blindly partisan and embrace stereotypes cause it makes you look stupid. plenty of republicans support gun control including your 2008 presidential front runners
http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/John_McCain_Gun_Control.htm - Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17I read somewhere that it was intended for things like, "happy slapping" where perpetrators vidoetape an attack.
But seeing as how they need to be liscenced I have my doubts. - jefree, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16France doesn't seem to be a very free place to be. I've noted a lot of controlling laws about the country lately.
- 13B1303, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Does this mean I can go to France and beat people up and as long as there are no "professional journalist" around it would be illegal to tape me in the act? hmmmmm I like this law... in France
- Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Oh yeah? Some of us neighbor Quebec..
- aukxsona, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Right I smell *****.
- rhawk301, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15OK, two words HIDDEN CAMERA. We all need to get them, and put them everywhere we can, including cars, people, and homes. We can then get the footage out using P2P, FreeNet, or other methods. The video's will get on the Internet one way or another.
- saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11texpundit: "Since the vast majority of Americans are media-fed sheep that have no will nor desire to stand up for their own rights,"
And that goes double for your average digg user as their percieved specialness that they are somehow better than another imagined group leads them to believe that only their voice matters and that no one outside of digg cares at all. Most digg users can't figure out how history fits together that happened more than 2 weeks ago. The only thing that interests most of them is to find the next story that bashes Bush, digg it up, and move on.
Quite sad. - strabes, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16That's what Western Europe has been doing best since the beginning of the 20th century. You can't spend your money how you like, you can't put into your body what you like, you can't own a gun to defend yourself with, and you dare not mention religion in public; heaven forbid you offend someone.
- Auerbeck, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13The French Constitutional Council should approve a law that criminalizes violent and destructive rioting.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@j2007: Finally! an honest Frenchman!
- Daedalus17, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Wait so Bush, who most French hate, is somehow leading their country in a crackdown on freedom even though he has no legal power in France and is hated by the current French administration? Hmmm....More likely you have no mind of your own and can only repeat anti-bush propaganda even when it has nothing to do with the discussion. Yeah that's it.
- kaskarn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10as a French, I am appalled by my government's tendency to make the most ridiculous laws. The presidential elections are in a month and a half, and politicians are trying to look tough, thus this law... Trust me it will never be applied. Just demagogia.
The strange thing is that I never heard of it, and trust me when the French feel their quality of life is under assault, well they make a lot of noise (strikes, etc... which is a reason for the inability for my country to reform). Anyone has a reliable link to the law? Thank you
Oh and no need to trash France to feel good about yourself, my country is not that bad and we are not surrendering cowards. Did this idea originates from world war 2? Because it seems a bit strange to me considering the Free French Forces did play a role, i.e. saved the English army in Africa at the battle of Bir-Akeim. Oh well you can do your own research if you want, but I have to admit some could find it more gratifying to just poke fun at without knowing. - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15anj747 is actually right. There are sections of the "patriot" act and "patriot" act number 2 (which was snuck into the "Domestic Security Enhancement" Act of 2003) that make news gathering illegal.
Most of you don't have the time or the will-power to go through all those pages of legislation, so here's an outline you can read in five minutes:
http://www.infowars.com/print/patriot_act/alexs_analysis.htm
He gives you the exact section numbers. Any parts you think he's making it up or exaggerating you can go look it up yourself in a matter of seconds and find out it's exactly as bad as he says and in some cases even worse than he says. - Lamtd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"If everybody could film this type of violence it would be easy to distort the truth information by showing only a part a this scene or modify it via a computer"
Yeah because we know professional journalists never do that... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We will always be grateful to the 19th century French for that beautiful statue.
- musicmantrs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Don't try to comprehend, conspiracy nuts invented a whole shadow government to justify their outlandish theories. If you want to see the insanity look up Illuminati(spelling?).
- Liam76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5***** Josh wolf.
You can't be part of a movement, join in protests and then suddenly declare you are a journalist and expect complete freedom.
He videotaped a crime by a movement he is involved with. He has no journalistic right to protect that video. - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8And thus passes into memory the Fourth Estate in the land of its birth.
- Salp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Au contraire. It sure sounds like this law will put the shackles on you for any kind of published footage by a non-professional. This means that footage of police abuse would be under the jurisdiction of this law. I see this as heavily unnecessary censorship with very little redeeming about it...oh lord, protect us from the happy slappers!
- erkokite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Sad. It seems that governments all over the place, not just France think they deserve more control than they really do over their people. You have it in the USA with the Patriot Act, Military Commissions act, etc... You have it in the UK with all the cameras. You have it in France with this act. Fortunately, I don't see this law as being all that enforceable, and I believe that people who catch violence that must be shown, such as police brutality, they will record and show it anyway.
- Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7In some parts of the world that would be applauded.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Happy Slapping is why the 2nd amendment is so important in the United States.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9In the Rodney King case, it would have been better if the video wasn't seen since they only televised the part where he was on the ground, not the part before where he swung at the officers or even before when he drove 100mph+ through residential areas, nearly causing fatal wrecks with innocent drivers. Rodney King ended up getting a few million dollars for being a piece of sh!t who got a well-deserved beating in this era of criminal tolerance. He later was in jail again for beating his girlfriend or wife. Just a total scumbag, supported by other scumbags in LA who support criminals against "the man".
Censorship is usually a liberal position used to hide or silence views that directly contradict the position they want to become the default. - JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Don't be upset men, they are just jokes. I'm spanish, and I reckon you the french take the streets when the government tries to pass stupid laws. Also, I applauded your decision to vote "no" in the European constitution referendum. Here in Spain everybody voted "yes" as sheeps, without even knowing what they were voting. Sad and pathetic. I wish our governments spend their time to make relevant laws and not just politically-correct-and-propaganda laws.
To the north americans: You don't know how much freedom you enjoy. National databases and compulsory IDs have been usual here in europe for decades. They are passing now an ID with a chip with your data embedded. - Lamtd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Pour le "french bashing", faut pas leur en vouloir, c'est un peu comme nous avec les Belges, ils ne sont pas plus bêtes que nous mais ça ne nous empêche pas de faire des blagues stupides les mettant en scène... :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5
Not only that - "pirotess" likes police brutality.... - Favre4Favre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5But i thought Europe was much more sophisticated that us ugly Americans.
- JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Obscure historical pre-french-revolutionary references FTW !
- UnFriendlyFire, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9grand frère
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How about this then... Instead of creating NEW laws... Use the video to arrest and charge and convict the perp with assault, and the camera holder as an accomplice.
A few months in jail will fix these Happy Slappers. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@schniff: Yeah, what we need is MORE lawyers and MORE civil lawsuits and MORE TV commercials promising "I can't promise you I'll get you millions of dollars, but I'll get you millions of dollars!"
Screw that. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm sure there are laws against assault in your country. If they are going to ignore them then they'll ignore this law also.
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