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- vatosplace, on 01/25/2008, -3/+30Oh I see.. Where Lincoln freed the slaves, Bush caged and tortured the Muslims?
- inactive, on 01/25/2008, -3/+17Oh I see . . . where Lincoln said, "this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth," Bush instead says, "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
- Insightful, on 01/25/2008, -1/+14Lincoln: ""Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it."
Bush: They hate us for our freedom - which is why I need to take away your civil liberties, remove your protest from my rallies, erase government e-mails and not release gov documents, and hold people, including Americans, without charges and torture, uh enhanced interrogate them.
Lincoln: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. " - Izult, on 01/25/2008, -0/+12Well considering that Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, and held military tribunals for civilians... it's not really that much of a stretch.
To be honest I'm surprised he knows enough about history to make the correlation. At least with Lincoln all that came to a halt and we got our rights back, with the shrub. no end in sight. - iching, on 01/25/2008, -1/+11"The country hated Lincoln when he was leaving office"
Can we start we this statement?.........Good grief
The election of 1864 he was overwhelmingly elected
"When Lincoln was leaving office?" What to the Ford Theater? - iching, on 01/26/2008, -0/+6Picture of Lincoln and Bush together
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/lincoln_bush.jpg - airiox, on 01/26/2008, -0/+6Why not? Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, jailed his detractors, and systematically killed 600 thousand innocent Americans all for the sake of the union. Consequently completely erasing the notion of states rights.
I don't know what I would have done, the union needed to be saved. But I do know I would have at least tried the route of peace before ordering the invasion of neighboring states. - mrsdz50, on 01/26/2008, -0/+5Lincoln did his share of side stepping the Constitution also- not that I agree with Pres. Bushe's arragonce about the Constitution.
- inactive, on 01/25/2008, -2/+6"the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the pubic safety may require it."
Lincoln argued his suspension was due to rebellion. The Civil War was underway, so it seems like a pretty strong argument. Bush suspended it for no reason he can cite. - SheilaNoya, on 01/26/2008, -1/+5Does John Wilkes Booth have any living relatives that want to help Bush fulfill his "Lincoln" fantasy?
- laterthandawn, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3I want to see someone pop the "so, exactly what is your understanding of how Lincoln left office?" question to Bush on camera. That would simultaneously make my day / make me leave this country.
- Nudar, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3The South had a right to secede.
- toddcat, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Well they were both men.....
- hawkeye17, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3Lincoln was on the right side of history. Bush has been on the wrong side of history on every decision he's made since setting foot in the Oval Office. The only realistic comparisons to Bush are Nixon, Jackson and Hoover. Even that is an insult to the Nixon, Jackson and Hoover estates.
- drizzlelicious, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Why don't we get some footage of Bush saying this himself? Why did Fox news have the guy reiterate Bush when they could've just quoted him?
- swaddict, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2interesting, i did not know that. Begs the question if secession can be considered rebellion. Note: I do not support slavery in any way. While I respect the idea that a state can secede, I don't know if could be called rebellion. For example, if CA seceded because it disagrees with the war of terror, would that be rebellious?
- blinkgreen, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2all i can say is .... WTF?
- inactive, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2No, in the sense that Lincoln revoked habeus corpus and generally trampled our Constitutional rights
- NaziHatinChimp, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1Like that crazy republican dude in Curb Your Enthusiasm.
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -0/+1Go ahead.
- midoritsuru, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1They are similar in that they face(d) a bitterly divided America.
- Kent4jmj, on 01/26/2008, -2/+3Bush and Lincoln both disregarded the Constitution.
If you think Lincoln was about freeing slaves, Wake Up!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/lincoln-arch.html - Arkavus, on 01/26/2008, -2/+3If you look at the election statistics of 1864 Lincoln only got 55% of the popular vote in the northern states even though he got 91% of the electoral vote. So I wouldn't say he was loved by the entire north as it seems nearly 1 in 2 people wanted him gone. And that 45% of the north were voting for McClellan who was running on a peace platform.
- airiox, on 01/26/2008, -1/+1No but the Secret Service is at your door.
- swaddict, on 01/26/2008, -1/+1Is that the secret service I hear knocking on your door?
- Archaeopteryx2, on 01/29/2008, -0/+0Lincoln and Bush both gave off carbon dioxide, which plants need to live. So there's that. I can't think of anything else they have in common.
- inactive, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0I guess if you are are right-wing Republican who chooses to revise history for selfish and shameless political ideological motives, then yes Bush is right up there with Lincoln.
- Kent4jmj, on 01/26/2008, -1/+1I grew up on the Lincoln propaganda. Then I came across hitories that were much more balanced and objective. They all argue that Lincoln was not justified in plunging us into war. I am curious as to your rational that argues for "justifiable decision."
- inactive, on 01/26/2008, -0/+0If you are a right-wing Republican choosing to revise history for selfish and shameless right-wing ideological motives, then yes Bush is right up there with Lincoln.
- mrsdz50, on 01/27/2008, -1/+1Secession of the southern states wasn't about slavery, it was about the Federal gov't usurping authority the state believed belonged to it ( along with the Fed. gov't dictating economic strangle holds on the south.) Read the Declaration of Independence again - when should a people separate themselves? I Believe we are very likely on the verge of a revolution again.
- Hipple, on 01/26/2008, -1/+1Important difference: Bush will never get his face on a coin. Or a dollar bill.
More important difference: Bush's war didn't have anything to do with saving the country, except maybe in his own head. Sure, Lincoln made some bad decisions, but at least his were justifiable (to a certain degree) - ZenFountain, on 01/26/2008, -2/+1I can see how Bush arrived at the comparison, but it's an extremely crude analogy and a perfect example of the crusader mentality that destroyed his presidency. Few remember Truman for sticking it out in Korea despite extreme unpopularity and loss of life, we remember Eisenhower for getting us out and labeled it the forgotten war.
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