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Former Surgeon General Was Muzzled, Censored By Bush Administration

thinkprogress.org — Anything that doesnt fit into the political appointees ideological, theological, or political agenda is ignored, marginalized, or simply buried.

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  • orelses, on 10/11/2007, -19/+10Pull the trigger and the nightmare stops...
    • seks03, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9you would think so but the sad truth is that the government would use Bush's death as another 9/11 to make new laws that would screw us more
      Theres a great movie that was made that showed a scenario of what may happen if Bush took a dirt nap, shows how the gov would end up winning in the end. http://www.deathofapresident.com/media/index.html
      • capiCrimm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I took the comment as destroying the FDA, DEA, et. al.
    • zephc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Kill a man and you might make him a martyr - the only way to really take someone out is to publicly disgrace them (e.g. sex/drug/corruption scandals)
    • wmarkusen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Vote left.
    • honkeybot5k, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4That would just be like shooting the hood ornament off a car that's running you over.
    • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I'm not a Bush fan but that was not cool.
    • orelses, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I was talking about kill yourself not other people.
  • cindylauper, on 10/11/2007, -2/+41Bush, the most degenerate dictator a democracy has ever known.
  • reeder, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Bush is a monster.
    • gus2074, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Not as big a monster as team Fed/IRS.
    • dxgg, on 02/05/2008, -0/+2And the Bush Administration is Monsters, Inc. ;)
  • shawnfassett, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17How much amazing information has come out of Waxman's Committee in these past 6 months?? Imagine if Lieberman was doing HIS job on the Senate's version of the same committee (Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs)...

    Sen. Reid needs to remove Lieberman and put somebody in there who will actually ask the hard questions and turn over the rocks that Bush puts in the way.
  • soulpunisher, on 10/11/2007, -6/+6I like bush...oh wait you guys are talking about another bush...yeah he sucks ass :-)
  • kgool, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1I am not defending the administration here by any means, but is it really all that rare that a disgruntled staffer or cabinet member of any administration has a sob story to tell after they are gone? I wonder when his book will come out.
    • JustFender, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9didnt sound like a sob story, sounded more like a your-being-*****-up-the-ass-by-the-government-and-your-just-smiling story
  • thejerm, on 10/11/2007, -9/+1Stop labeling political opinion and political news
  • ooloo, on 10/11/2007, -23/+0Typical moonbat crap. The Surgeon General works for the President. He better be advancing the President's agenda or he's out.
    • dxgg, on 02/05/2008, -0/+9The surgeon general most certainly does not. The American people have relied on the Surgeon General's professional credentials (all have been MDs) and political independence to make themselves into the most visible and, in the public's mind, impartial and therefore trusted government spokespersons on health issues affecting the nation as a whole.
    • zephc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11^^^(•..•)^^^ ^^^(•..•)^^^ ^^^(•..•)^^^
      ^^^(•..•)^^^ ^^^(•..•)^^^ ^^^(•..•)^^^
      ^^^(•..•)^^^ ^^^(•..•)^^^ ^^^(•..•)^^^
      LOOKOUT, OOLOO! SWARM OF MOONBATS!

      Go get a new catch-phrase, you jackass, you're sounding like a broken record.
      • Fordi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Chill. Name calling is always the last bit of political currency an extremist has to spend. It's just a sign that he's already lost the fight.

        A little sad to watch, though, isn't it?
    • neoblaque, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Well, when he only has one idea, one catch-phrase is only natural. BTW - the Surgeon General works for the American people.
    • Fordi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I've just decided, I have to release this extension I wrote. Hover over a digg user's name, and it pulls up his age in days, a short list of what he's dugg/submitted, and his average/deviated comment score.

      Ooloo joined five days ago, has dugg only politically extreme right articles, and has an avg comment score of -3.8 with a deviation of 0.03.

      So yeah. Moonbat my ass; maybe, but only from the point of view of someone who has lost all touch with reality.

      Actually responding to ooloo: The position of Surgeon General should not be in any way affected by politics. No more, at least, than your own physician should be.

      Seriously, the idea that you would set something as important as public health subject to party politics is so fundamentally stupid, naive, or intentionally insane that ... that I can't even figure out a way to finish this sentence.
  • dxgg, on 02/05/2008, -0/+5Got fascism?
    • fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Not yet. It would become fascism if, say, Congress impeached Bush, and he refused to comply. Or, if he is in office on 1-21-09.
  • robdiggity, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1"Anything that doesnt fit into the political appointees ideological, theological, or political agenda is ignored, marginalized, or simply buried."

    I agree, but you have to admit this observation associated with a thinkprogress article is that absolute definition of irony.
    • rationalist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5The original submission pointed directly to the Reuters news article, but folks didn't digg it up sufficiently. This is not a thinkprogress article - but then, you would never bother to read it either way, since all your information is magically revealed to you in advance.
      • robdiggity, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Don't be an ass. Why is it a crime to point out that as unfair and unbalanced as Fox News is to the right, thinkprogress and others are just as unfair and unbalanced to the left?

        Why must everyone be so rigidly polarized? Why is it so unbelievable that a person honestly WANTS to be objectively critical?
        • shmatt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Because thinkprogress is not biased. They use hard sources, and the assholes they call out are usually pwned by their own words. As opposed to faux news, who give limited time to opposing views, distort the other sides' argument, and spew FUD all over the place.

          Like this: IS ROBDIGGITY AN ***** OR JUST BRAINWASHED? STAY TUNED THROUGH THE COMMERCIALS!
        • robdiggity, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Shmatt, you have lost your senses. I have not, and will never defend Fox news, as your rant implies. I also will not back off the claim that thinkprogress exploits sensationalism in equal measure to promote their own bent agenda. It is clear from the acidic response that the observation holds: honestly objective criticism will never be accepted in an environment such as this. Honest discourse has gone the way of the dodo. If you are not espousing one extreme view or another, then you are going to get slagged. Sorry, I choose not to fall in line. Either line. I choose to use my brain and critically consider the messages I read.
  • angelmarauder, on 10/11/2007, -13/+0Wish I could bury this article.
  • Dralha, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8One word: dominionism.
  • insanebrain, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6The biggest trick of the devil is telling everybody that America is a free country.
    • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Somebody else who did not anticipate the internet revolution then.
  • sonicskat1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+0The problem with this article is that the surgeon general isn't always right. Don't think that a room full of epidemiologists constitutes the truth. For example, they've screwed up big time with facts concerning tobacco, including mortality, morbidity and life expectancy estimates. They've also shown a strong bias for research concerning second hand smoke. For a little taste, check out http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv21n4/lies.pdf
    • MacEnvy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7If they thought there was a medical issue on which he was wrong, that's fine. If they oppose his medical advice on a moral basis and thus silence the one person who is charged with being a man of science in the administration, then the WH can go ***** themselves. They aren't serving this country.
    • JDove6, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3They have been wrong or the adminstration censoring them has been?
    • mtbaldyred, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I think the prob with your comment, sonickat1, is that the point here is not that a Surgeon General can be flawed. That is besides the point. The point is that all pluralism has been squashed by this administration. It is a monolithic, ideological form of totalitarianism, which is crying out for different points of view.
  • MephistoX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Sound like 1984, anyone?
  • IslandDog, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1Of course democrats don't do this.....LOL.
    • mconnors, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What's your poiint? If democrats do this its acceptable?
    • Fordi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I believe the point that Carmona was trying to get across is that the Administration's values should have no bearing on the Surgeon General's decisions - be they democrat or republican.

      But, as he deftfully pointed out, Bush has so far been the worst example of the political opression of the SG's office yet.
    • rationalist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Hmm, if you'd RFTA, you'd have known that the Surgeon Generals under Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr. certainly don't think so - they state this is the worst partisanship and muzzling of legitimate science they have ever seen.
  • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -0/+7This is no surprise. From the scientific community (global warming) to the stacked deck pointing to Iraq, this is the status quo with this group. I am surprised that none of the media ever covered the WHY of why Katrina was so terribly bungled. Normally, the head of any government agency is a figurehead, appointed to the current administration to provide and personal and political buffer between the administration and said agency. The #2 person at any agency is the one with 30 years of non-partisan experience. They really run the show at FEMA, etc...or at least, they used to. When Bushco took power they sacked the top TWO OR THREE members of every agency...including FEMA..all in the name of political ideology. They wanted control over every agency, regardless of the hampering of that agency's functioning. So when "Brownie" needed to turn to an experienced #2 or #3 person in the time of crisis...they weren't any more experienced than he was. Hence no one knew what to do and spent all the critical time asking questions of people who had been unceremoniously fired and had moved on with their lives. Bureaucratic Inertia in a time of crisis.

    And this is how the entire government is structured right now. The experienced, professional, capable heads of every agency were replaced by Bushco with inexperienced, Bush-friendly, cronies with no capabilities for the job other than the ability to say "whatever you say goes Mr. Rove."
  • honkeybot5k, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Let's make Kansas it's own independent nation, call is Jesusland, and let these little taliban-lite bastards have it. These nuts can go to the hospitals there, and have hands laid on them to cure their Parkinson's disease. Spinal cord injuries shouldn't be a problem either since TV cameras give preachers the power of healing. I see people being pulled out of wheelchairs all the time on TV!

    Regardless of what these little puritan fascists try to do, stem cell research and therapy will be a reality.
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I hate to make a lol post, but man that is comedy gold right there. I lost it on the taliban-lite comment. Genius.
  • usercc, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1The president was the doctor's boss. You adhere to the wishes of your boss or you lose your job. That is a simple concept.
    Embryonic stem-cell advocates just want more abortions. The president is not against the use of stem-cells, just not those harvested from an aborted baby.
    • fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7That is so ignorant it is almost incredible. Do you know the first thing about embryonic stem cells? They come from the discarded embryos left over from IVF (which is _creating_ a baby, by the way, not an abortion), embryos that would be thrown in the trash if not used for stem cell research. Also, I am not sure that any person wants more abortions, they just think that people should be free to choose.
    • Fordi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"Embryonic stem-cell advocates just want more abortions."

      You are a liar.

      Research embryonic stem cells in european countries come from failed fetuses at fertility clinics. North Korea is the only one I know of that actually uses abortion cells.

      Meanwhile, I don't see the problem in using cells from abortions; since abortion is the potential mother's choice, it wouldn't instigate any extra abortions, and it would make use of what would otherwise be waste.

      Unless you're one of those asshats who think that a woman who has an abortion should have her pickled fetus legally stapled to her nightstand (or go around waving pictures of aborted fetuses at political rallies. Either way, you're a sick *****.)
    • stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Hey dude... this isn't the ***** military.
  • feckineejit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6This is all crap we've been saying all along but nobody but us "fringe lunatics" believed it. we were branded conspiracy nuts because nobody liked to hear the truth. lies are much more palatable.
    • bort, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3There is a difference between thinking Bush flew planes into WTC and thinking Bush censors what his people say.
  • mlarsen, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Ok, consider the source "thinkprogress.org" is nothing but a liberal "Bush Sucks" site- yea- really credible!
    • JDove6, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4ITS a VIDEO of testifying in front of congress...straight from the horse's mouth, how is that not credible? What a sheep.
    • rationalist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The source is a Reuters news article - thinkprogress merely cites it. The original submission pointed directly to Reuters.

      You are actually afraid of reading something that might clash with your blind obedience - it's hilarious to see you folks squirm.

      Or, would be hilarious, if your unwillingness to face reality with courage hadn't cost so many lives, prolonged so much suffering, and created so much misery in just 7 years.
    • Fordi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Um. The source appears to be a congressional hearing. It may be on thinkprogress, but it's only posted there because he's saying something critical of Bush's administration. Consider for the moment that the fact that thinkprogress decided to air that video has nothing to do with its credibility.

      Then, later, when you've come to your senses, please keep your mindless astroturfing to yourself.
  • roaddc, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3
    Bush can manipulate everything in America. He can undermine scientific facts on stem cell research, global warming, sex, etc. He can put all his cronies in the White House to server neocon interests.

    But at the end of the day, Americans (government officials and the public) won't do a thing except whine. The majority would not care and not be brave enough to impeach Bush and Cheney.
    • sonicskat1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Bush doesn't undermine the science, in which there are no true facts, just theories and axioms. He just tends to ignore them. There is a significant difference. Just because he vetos stem cell research doesn't mean he undermines the concept of the subject, he's just an individual in power that is able to influence the progress of the field. I'm absolutely not saying he's right in what he does...In fact I think it's absolutely idiot, but he isn't manipulating scientific facts, he's disagreeing
  • JDove6, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What you call whining, is imperative to a democracy as our right to free speech and the right to protest. If people don't "whine" than everyone keeps the same convoluted view that the government spews out thru propoganda and outright lies. While I think the majority of Americans are not happy with Bush, according to his sub-30% approval rating, Americans have no control over impeachment, that is up to congress which is too corrupt to actually do anything. Yea I guess "whining" doesn't get the president canned, but I don't have billions of dollars to buy out all the henchman he has bought out the protect himself.
    • roaddc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1
      What this country needs is a revolution because the Congress would not do a thing. However, Americans won't be able to mobilize itself to save the country.
  • kaiser44, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1God I hope the democrats take back the white house.I also hope that lying , dodging, carpetbagger Clinton is put in the office.
    This country has problems now, just wait till Mommy Clinton puts her stamp on this country.
    You think gwb is a ***** ,wait till this bitch gets in the drivers seat.
    Watch out all you libertarian's. This lady is your worst nightmare.
  • stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Hmmmm.... this ***** happened a lot in the old Soviet Republic.
  • Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0That description should have been used in the michael moore article...
  • wonderworm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1EVERYDIGGER NEEDS TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY AND MAKE HIM THE NOMINEE!!!

    EVEN DEMOCRATS AND HARD CORE LIBERALS SHOULD VOTE IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR PAUL BECAUSE HE CANNOT BE BOUGHT AND IS THE CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST INTEGRITY. WITH DEMOCRATS VOTING RAN PAUL, IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES, THEY ARE ASSURED TO GET A COMPETENT PERSON AS PRESIDENT, EITHER RON PAUL OR HILLARY OR OBAMA. WIN WIN WIN. SO ALL DEMOCRATS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO TO.

    THINK ABOUT IT!

    NOW TELL EVERYONE THE PLAN TO GET RON THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION.
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