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- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 09/27/2008, -12/+146Nice job, Obama.
Obama consistently displayed strong knowledge on foreign policy tonight.
McCain, however, consistently displayed arrogant and condescending contempt for Sen. Obama.
I do hope that Barach punches McCain MUCH harder in the final debate. - duckley, on 09/27/2008, -12/+121(continuing from the article)...
... Sixty-eight percent of uncommitted voters think Obama would make the right decisions about the economy. Forty-one percent think McCain would.
Forty-nine percent of these voters think Obama would make the right decisions about Iraq. Fifty-five percent think McCain would. - peheimbach, on 09/27/2008, -4/+72Keep in mind that even if Obama just pulled "draw" this evening -- and the numbers indicate that outcome or better, this is McCain's best "knowledge area." This is the area on which he hammers Obama.
Wins in the next two debates should be both easier and more memorable for Obama.
(Plus -- don't we all watch more "series games" when the series is tied up?) - digitalgopher, on 09/27/2008, -7/+69Even in a FOX News Focus Group: Obama Wins Debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wup4nsIWe8A - GMills, on 09/27/2008, -13/+73Obama acted noble and presidential by responding to the answers precisely while all McCain did was avoid the questions and attack Obama...Did anyone else notice how many times McCain blinks during the debate?
- duckley, on 09/27/2008, -7/+60Yes, yes. Your mileage may vary.
But... Instant responses to debates like these often change momentum and receptiveness of the Independent voters.
The KEY HERE is that this is a poll of UNCOMMITTED voters, those who had not decided yet.
For a breakdown by EACH of EIGHT TOPICS, see MediaCurves.com's report:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/MediaCurves_Poll ... - nhansen, on 09/27/2008, -4/+53(how do you remember your username?) I agree that Obama kept his cool. I was fuming at McCain's continual condescending attitude and smug "I'm older, I'm wiser, I've been there, I've done that" comments and his over-running of his allotted time. Good on ya Obama for keeping your cool, and simply stating, "that isn't true, I did not say that, and you know I didn't say that" every time McCain kept on plugging stale sound bites that have long been debunked.
- thenekkidtruth, on 09/27/2008, -5/+50Why Barack won:
1 The undecided American public only needed to see whether or not Barack is a reasonable, rational, and knowledgeable statesman. He left them no doubt.
2 Barack was more consistently correct on the issues as Americans see it - specifically, right on Iraq, Afghanistan and Russia.
3 A small point, but it needs to be a bigger one - McCain made dozens of mistakes on the issues, big and small. He thought pre-Musharraf Pakistan was a "failed state", for instance - it wasn't. It was a fully-functional state taken over through force by a military general turned autocrat.
4 The best McCain can claim today is that Barack fundamentally agrees with him on most issues. That's not good enough for him - McCain needed to prove significant superiority on his Foreign Policy knowledge and experience - his self-admitted core competency - and he was unable to do that.
5 The big one is demeanor. Barack was poised, reasonable, confident, addressed the host by name and looked McCain in the eye. McCain came off as snide, smirky and condescending - it looked for all the world like he has a hidden, seething agenda. Personally, I think he does, but that's another day. The net result in the debates is that he likely disenfranchised the female vote as a result, who tend to prefer someone who's more reasonable, rational, and open to discussion.
A whole LOT OF UNDECIDED voters wanted to know that Barack Obama has the demeanor to be President, and he not only delivered - he sprinted past McCain in this regard. - duckley, on 09/27/2008, -7/+49Just check my Record in digg.
I am 100% for Obama. I donate. I volunteer. I blog.
I could care less about Digg points, thanks. - Vash01, on 09/27/2008, -8/+47Obama appeared classy, right from the word go. He warmly greeted McCain. He showed respect to his opponent, while strongly disagreeing on issues. McCain appeared tight and almost condescending toward his opponent; he would not even acknowledge his presence. He repeatedly said "Obama does not understand...". At one point he even accused Obama of not knowing the difference between strategy and tactic. Obama was tough, yet respectful. He earned my respect.
- Tweets, on 09/27/2008, -6/+47Why didn't or couldn't McCain look Barak Obama in the eye?
- theaceoffire, on 09/27/2008, -2/+37>.< I am only 89%.
What tips can you give me to help reach that extra 11%?
I have been trying Obama crunches, Obama lifts, even Obama ups, and nothing helps... - digitalgopher, on 09/27/2008, -2/+36agreed. and this was not only a display of strong knowledge in an area that was supposed to be McCain's home turf, but quite frankly Obama showed how much more presidential he was. Just watching the body language, McCain didn't even bother to acknowledge his opponent with eye contact at any point during the debate. This was a reflection of the personality and demeanor. McCain was there only to attack. I think Obama showed how much more how likely he is able to cross the aisle and work with colleagues on the left and right sides.
- theaceoffire, on 09/27/2008, -1/+35No, he just knows what it means.
Passwords: 9 sentences, 50 Words, 5 kitchens, 4 Gondolas Under Duress, 2 catching 6.
P9s50W5k4GUD2c6. - Brian48216, on 09/27/2008, -0/+31In my opinion, him not being a consistent dbag is why a lot of people find his appeal as a candidate. He takes a conciliatory tone while making his point.
- dezweber, on 09/27/2008, -4/+33Being undecided myself, I agree with the results in two areas. I believe that McCain makes more sense regarding Iraq but I definitely warmed up to Obama. I was left with a strong distaste for McCain's tone and style. Did it bother anyone else that he refused to even look at his opponent?
- charm803, on 09/27/2008, -6/+36In the time of crisis, in dealing with other countries, quite possibly on the brink of war either with us or another country, Obama is DEFINITELY the one I want representing this country.
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -5/+33To be fair, I didn't see the whole debate, but considering this was McCain's strong suit, I thought it was some what of a tie. Both had decent answers to the questions... but one candidate looked more composed than the other, even when the other had more knowledge in that area. I mean, I'll be honest, I favor Obama in this election and I credit the slight win to him because of that, but if I was an independent, I'd say it was a tie.
For all the haters on Obama, whatever you say really doesn't matter if you can't back it up all that well. And, to throw this on top of the stack, if you haven't watched this, you really should see who is your choice for VP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc - Wryly, on 09/27/2008, -2/+30I would expect a maverick to make eye contact.
- algaeturd, on 09/27/2008, -10/+36I understand the approach but honestly, did Obama have to say that McCain was right 13 times?
Over and over and over and over and over. I know what he's doing...he's trying to acknowledge McCain, agree with him, reach across the aisle as it were, extend an olive branch....BUT
republicans are already making a commercial with those 13 sound bites of Obama saying, "John is right.."
You don't have to play dirty but do you have to be so god damn nice to this guy? I mean McCain wouldn't even look at him or acknowledge him on stage. Why is Obama so eager to jump in his lap?
He NEEDS to toughen up for the next debate. In a big way. I'm 100% for civility (esp. in light of how subhuman the republicans get) but it's time to toughen up on McCain and quit giving him passes. Obama should have called out his 'undying love and support' for veterans. Veterans HATE McCain. By numbers of 80% to Obama and 20% to McCain. Obama knows these numbers. EVERYONE knows them. CALL HIM OUT on ***** lies like this.
I just don't get why he wouldn't. I know McCain is a vet but that doesn't give him a pass to lie about facts in debates.
Ever play Mortal Combat, Obama? Finish this chump off, quit being so agreeable and point it out when he lies. Don't let him guide the topics of the debate and don't chase him. Take control, break it down with facts and call him out when he lies. Finally, get to the point when you're discussing a topic and TALK ABOUT THE current issues.
What? No bringing up unemployment numbers? The failures of the Bush admin that McCain supported over 90% of the time? No talking about the huge support of Bush and McCain with lobbyists and such?
Obama won this one but he pussyfooted this. You CAN be presidential, suave and tough at the same time. That's what I want to see. - Brian48216, on 09/27/2008, -2/+26It seems like he's trying to get his thoughts together and actually put together a cohesive answer as opposed to McCain's canned responses.
- duckley, on 09/27/2008, -0/+22That was considered by most "uncommitted" voters to be "cross-party" working skills.
And, to be honest, in many cases McCain was right. When Obama was right, often McCain did not agree, and it showed. - buddhika86, on 09/27/2008, -4/+22Most say Obama stuttering, but what I see is that's his way of speech and I like that. There's one of the best professor in my university that use the same style, and it's cool.
- grahampoor, on 09/27/2008, -7/+27Obama was clear and in depth on the issues so McCain's main attack of "he doesn't get it" were a waste. McCain was running for senate.
- theaceoffire, on 09/27/2008, -0/+19I am bringing popcorn to the next debate.
Sarah Palin Vs Joe Biden.
Should be good.
On a side note, this debate had *NO* crap about flagpins and *****, or lipstick, etc. It was interesting, asked good questions, and didn't lead the answers... I was impressed. - magus_melchior, on 09/27/2008, -5/+23This is just gauging the reaction to the debate among some undecided voters, no more, no less. It's not a projection into November 4.
- pimpofpixels, on 09/27/2008, -9/+26That's a relief.
Obama is my Roger Clemens. I expect him to throw a shutout every time out.
I've seen Obama be so good that unless he's historically brilliant I'm disappointed.
I was a little deflated after the debate because I thought Obama would just MOP THE FLOOR with McCain. It was a pretty even match, but in hindsight, even though it didn't meet my expectations, Obama did a pretty good job.
Honestly though, when you've got truth on your side... you SHOULD win the debate. - rivsgivsmeshivs, on 09/27/2008, -1/+17I agree with you that he was only there to attack. While Obama kept saying "I agree with you, John, but...". McCain couldn't bring himself to to do that even once. It kinda comes off as being a bad sport.
- cplex, on 09/27/2008, -6/+22Not too shabby at all, considering foreign policy was supposed to be Obama's weak point.
- pogwercs, on 09/27/2008, -4/+20Most Americans will relieve to hear this. McCain doesn't have much to say when not talking about VC prison and calling people "my friends". And Palin...Uhmm can't wait to see when she's up with Biden. She might to het him fired after.
- duckley, on 09/27/2008, -1/+16Yes, yes. Your mileage may vary.
But... Instant responses to debates like these often change momentum and receptiveness of the Independent voters.
The KEY HERE is that this is a poll of UNCOMMITTED voters, those who had not decided yet.
For a breakdown by topic, see MediaCurves.com's report:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/MediaCurves_Poll ... - Gemfinder, on 09/27/2008, -2/+17And wouldn't you know...my Firefox Digg toolbar just sent this across my screen:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/CBS_Snap_Poll_Ob ... - beanphoner, on 09/27/2008, -4/+18I've got a bracelet too!
- fugazied, on 09/27/2008, -2/+16Yeah I noticed that immediately... He just didn't want to look at Obama while he was speaking. Also, repeatedly saying "He just doesn't get it", "He's naive" etc. does not make for a sound premise in an debate. You need facts John.
- pbol01, on 09/27/2008, -2/+15Idiot! Stuttering is a handicap and not to be ridiculed. I'm not sure that Obama is a stutterer, and if he were it wouldn't make him any less qualified. Is McCain unqualified because he can't raise his arms above his head? No of course not. He is unqualified because he's a tool.
- kingUssop, on 09/27/2008, -6/+17This is great news.
- bacardi151, on 09/27/2008, -1/+12And your incessant whining is pointless. We got it the first ***** 2 times you posted this crap already. please shut the ***** up already. To you no source is credible unless they have McCain on top.
- nihilville, on 09/27/2008, -1/+12Hahaha!
That's awesome!
I guess even Rupert Murdoch can tell which way the wind is blowing! - theaceoffire, on 09/27/2008, -1/+12HI again!
Fox news: "Obama Wins Debate"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wup4nsIWe8A - inactive, on 09/27/2008, -1/+12Repeating it over and over does not make it true. In the eyes of the viewers, Obama won. And that is the perceived truth.
McCain had to hit it out of the park to turn around his desperately bad polling. He didn't come anywhere near that.
Next up: Palin.
heheh, good luck with that. - zazzalicious, on 09/27/2008, -3/+14McCain's 'I've got a bracelet' was such a cheap shot. 'Don't let my son have died in vain'! No, let's sacrifice some more Mother's sons to make sure you don't have to face up to the fact that yoru son was sent to die in an illegal war.
Obama's comeback was spot on.
- fluxion, on 09/27/2008, -2/+13to touch on the angry point...McCain never once looked at Obama...even when it was obvious that Obama was addressing him. he avoided eye contact completely, making it quite obvious that McCain has a disdain for Obama. which is fair. but when you claim to be the man who is gonna reach across party lines to fix this country, you should be able to look your opponent in the face.
McCain was pretentious, and his "what senator obama doesnt seem to understand" lines were almost always unfounded, and (like in the case of "tactics" vs. "strategy") often wrong.
people like McCain start fights, plain and simple. its one thing to be firm and confident, but his demeanor is dangerous, plain and simple.
on the topic at hand, foreign policy, i'd say McCain came across as the winner, even though i think Obama actually has a better stance. McCain did a good job of portraying a genuine grasp of foreign policy. but as a whole, including the economy, im gonna have to agree with the polling...Obama at least matched him. and this was McCain's best subject - fluxion, on 09/27/2008, -0/+11speaking of Frank Luntz, how about his little poll? (forgive the huffington post link, i saw this on fox news and huffpost happened to have the vid)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/26/debate-re ...
Fox's OWN focus group of independents. Half voted for Bush...half voted for Kerry in 2004. they gave it to Obama.
CBS and CNN's focus groups, gave it to Obama
general polling, gives it to Obama
Fox News' own online poll calls it 50/50. which i think serves as a safe "worse case assessment" of Obama's performance.
attack the messenger is an effective tactic...but that's way too many messengers for 1 man to handle, im afraid. dont get me wrong, you're to point out that this poll is not a good indicator, but taken in the context of all the other numbers it is not far off base it seems. - zazzalicious, on 09/27/2008, -0/+10Ad hominem attack, attack the person not the issue. Sad.
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -0/+10Palin vs. Biden, that's gonna be the true blood bath. I like the way Jack Cafferty put it:
"There's a reason the McCain campaign keeps governor Sarah Palin away from the press...If John McCain wins, this woman will be one 72-year-old's heartbeat away from being President of the United States. And if that doesn't scare the hell out of ya', it should." - inactive, on 09/27/2008, -18/+28I felt Obama was speaking directly to intelligent, rational, logical thinking people.
I felt McCain was speaking directly to lunatics, perverts, psychotics, derilics, retards, criminals, pedophiles and insane people, the lowest common denominator of our society - thegsa, on 09/27/2008, -2/+12he probably has firefox remember his username and password
- FTWmovin2canada, on 09/27/2008, -1/+11From the details behind the poll: "McCain saw less improvement in his image. 32% have improved their image of McCain as a result of the debate, but 21% said their views of him are now worse than before."
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/2008Debate1.pdf - twiztidsinz, on 09/27/2008, -3/+13Why is it that the Republicans yell, shout and scream about being non-partisan, and then when a Democrat agrees with them, they say it like its a bad thing?
- 5celery, on 09/27/2008, -0/+10Most people get as much information from body language as they get from spoken words (if not more) - in this regard, McCain/Palin are showing some craaazy high anxiety and self consciousness. McCain's inability to look at Obama, even when Obama is telling him he did a good job, is not only telling of his weakness - but a little startling as well. It is obvious why McCain resents diplomacy - he can't even look in an opponents eye, let alone speak with them about areas of disagreement.
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