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Feds sue to block release of records

news.yahoo.com — Federal prosecutors sued state utility regulators and Verizon Communications Inc. on Monday to block the release of information related to the government's domestic surveillance program. The Public Utilities Commission on Aug. 9 ordered Verizon to provide a sworn statement about the National Security Agency's warrantless eavesdropping program.

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  • creektown, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16No sh!t they don't want to release data ? who would've thought this is a secret /sarcasm
    secret fisa court secret surveillance program secret secret secret
    ****IT'S WE THE PEOPLE!**** when will we the people figure out that we are not to be kept in the dark and the only way that a government of the people by the people and for the people will have a chance of working is if the people are informed of what is going on. period end of story
    the elected officials that we put in office to represent our points of view cannot represent us or even know what we want as a whole body if we don't even know. How is that democratic?
    i understand that the majority of us is afraid of being attacked but the fear should not bring us to our knees we have been in fights before that made AL qaeda sp? look like Sissy's. -- i digress --
    "place Verizon in a position of having to confirm or deny the existence of information that cannot be confirmed or denied without causing exceptionally grave harm to national security,"
    this is the greatest statement I've heard since the sidestep song in best little whore house in Texas
    so its a secret that i as an American am not allowed to know about and the guy who is stopping me from knowing WORKS FOR ME ! OK that's it I'm done with y'all
    VIVA NEW HAMPSHIRE !
    • Ibox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Live free or die!
    • john2kx, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2creektown, that post looked like you just banged your head against your keyboard for 2 minutes and hit "submit comment".
    • RexKwando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13What a quote,... "place Verizon in a position of having to confirm or deny the existence of information that cannot be confirmed or denied without causing exceptionally grave harm to national security,"

      "***** the system"
    • RexKwando, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1digg down
    • mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3how can the Federal procecutors not part of the NSA sue for a secret program without admitting that it exists in the first place. I would seem like the people suing could use this suit as proof they're hiding something.. Say, demands are too broad and the Feds need to specify Which records they can't release.
    • verifex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seems like we need another branch of government that can put checks on the other 3 misbehaving branches.
    • mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am sorry, but allowing any Government carte blanch rights to eves drop on your private conversations is giving the Government WAY too much power. Your expecting that 'they', are representatives in power, will wield the mighty sword or unmeasurable surveillance for justice and not use it to better themselves or their personal agendas? Bull *****! The first chance they get, they will start listening to campaign managers and rally supporters across the nation.

      This is the beginnings of a total police state. I am just waiting for them to start putting up the fences and barbed wire.
    • Muddle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The state is the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it tells lies and the largest of these, is we the state are the people." - Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
  • bontaq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'm happy our government does this to keep us safe from dangerous, harmful, information.
    • mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its funny how in one hand people gasp at the thought of China's use of censorship and survalance, but in the next they totally think its great our government tries to do the same.
  • PowerCow, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7before someone says it..
    this isnt about wiretaps, this is about oversight..
    tap me all you want i have nothing to hide, but do it the american way, with oversight.
    I would even support the secrecy of the programs, with proper oversight.

    SO it is not about republicans, it is not about bush, it is not about terror or al quida calling, or being soft on crime, or fear of being overheard.. this is 100% about proper oversight and following the rule of law.
    • skoles, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Is the real estate cheap in la-la land? Cause I wanna relocate.
    • gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Its not popular and its dangerous for politians to exercise oversight. Its even hard for laws they create to get enforced (and thus they create new laws that are redudant and make them look busy and interested)

      Gotta love that Brady Bill sunset.
    • billinjapan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"SO it is not about republicans, it is not about bush,"

      But yes it is. Who is blocking the oversight? Give you a hint: GOP and GWB.
    • cheapskate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Oversight? You mean like no legislator reading the Patriot act before voting on it? That kind of oversight?
    • Incredulous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't you believe in the Constitution and the 4th amendment?
  • viriiman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12“People Should Not Be Afraid of Their Governments. Governments Should be Afraid of Their People" - V
  • zekt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The difference between China and the US is that in China, you don't have to involve lawyers to do this :-p
  • skubiszm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I thought with the Patriot Act all of this is legal as long as you claim it is fighting terrorists? I hope something actually comes of this.
  • blankman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Suing is just a ploy to give themselves time to make false records so that if they lose and have to release the information, they'll have the fake records to use instead.
  • spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If the Federal Government isn't doing anything wrong, then they have nothing to hide.
    • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1ok, we should then release all our data from Los Alamos.
    • tablatronix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I believe he was being sarcastic.
    • mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think the comment was about top-secret research and such. I think the comment was directed to our ellustrious government trying to cover up its actions in a covert operation to steal the private conversations of individuals under the 'guiss' of anti-terrorist activities.

      Lets see if I can say it another way. You call your friend, and start in about how Bush sucks and we should not be in Iraq. Next thing you know, there is a knock on your door, and several men in black drag you away. You are never heard from again.

      Oh, think this can't happen? The germans thought so too, and a man by the name of Hitler came in, took power under the guise of protecting the german people, and next thing you know there is a hollocost.

      This stuff has the potential to get REALLY bad.
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Whether or not the govt. did anything illegal, it makes no sense that this information ends up in a public trial. This needs to be investigated by an independent special prosecutor with the required security clearance.
    • williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It DOES make sense. These people are committing crimes against the Constitution and the American people. We need to know who they are, arrest them, and lock them up for a loooong time.
  • JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9If the government isn't doing anything wrong, then it has nothing to hide.
  • wstrucke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This stuff needs to stop... now. The next election can not come soon enough.
    • asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You'd be surprised at how much the current administration can ***** up until the next election, especially because it has nothing to lose (Bush can't get re-elected, so he doesn't care about polls or anything now). Not to mention that our next president being a good guy is a gamble.
    • asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The only hope I see is from today's youths and teens. The best outcome would be another 60s era. Just swap Vietnam with Iraq. I wouldn't mind a 2nd (or is it 3rd?) 'summer of love'.
  • NapoleonGold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WOOOW Really that is sooooooo surprising.

    but not really, par for the course.
  • mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have a feeling the ***** is about to hit the fan. Why are the Feds so worried about these these records getting out? Sounds like someone has something to hide.
    • williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Because it is big and very illegal, and because the telcos are lying about not playing along.
  • creektown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@john2kx
    john you are correct i was banging my head on the keyboard
    i am not another idontcareican and this kind of sh!t makes me bang my head on the keyboard !
    so thanks for noticing and join the fight or get the phuck out the way
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