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- geekee, on 11/04/2009, -2/+14Obama better hope the stimulus money doesn't run out before the election next year. The only way Obama knows how to create jobs is by paying for them with taxpayer dollars. Those jobs will be gone as soon as the money runs out.
- DavidNiven, on 11/04/2009, -19/+28It's official. Corzine the Democrat lost big time. This does NOT bode well for Obama and the Democrats.
- KokomoNYC, on 11/04/2009, -6/+14Lol. I wonder if it will become a trend to take even the most obscure election results as wholly indicative of approval of the president.
"Republican candidate Joe Schmo won the Spokane, Washington Mayoral Race against Democratic incumbent Moe Schmo. This does NOT bode well for Obama and the Democrats." - CamonDraconis, on 11/04/2009, -1/+8It's not just Democrats, its both sides of the table. I know many conservatives who are getting ready to vote against just about every incumbent in office no matter what team they play for.
- KokomoNYC, on 11/04/2009, -5/+12"it's a Republican winning in a typically Democrat-leaning state."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_ ...
*Shrug.* It really seems fairly even to me. The results in NJ's gubernatorial race didn't exactly predict the 2004 presidential election results. - Insightful, on 11/04/2009, -18/+24Apparently no other thing matters such as economy, health care, education, environment, national security, etc?
What about fate of Republican's minority - what does it rest on? Their ability to say no? Ability to generate fear, uncertainty, and doubt? Ability to spend recklessly while proclaiming fiscal conservatism? Or ability to say no nation building while starting two wars in the Middle East?
You can go on week after week about how Obama's and the Democrats' popularity are just tanking but reality says you should be worried first about the 20% approval rate for Republicans - geekee, on 11/04/2009, -1/+7"No green party could ***** things up any more than the current tenants. "
The US would already be bankrupt if the green party was in charge. - heliumflash, on 11/04/2009, -0/+6It's the economy stupid
- youareretarded, on 11/04/2009, -5/+11"Bush's approval rating was higher at this point into his term than Obama's is now."
Really? That's crazy! There had to be something going on around that time to cause that, I just can't think of anything off of the top of my head.
/sarcasm - thatsmyaibo, on 11/04/2009, -4/+10I hated Bush as a president but to say he got us attacked is completely wrong. He was barely in office when the attack took place and we were attacked numerous times under Clinton. The people that attacked us (both during Clinton and Bush) hate this country and it's values, not the president.
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/04/2009, -12/+17*****. Bush got us attacked and we united against what we perceived as an enemy. That's the only reason his approval rose. Because we were attacked.
Reality is, lets look at a better metric: Obama's approval is higher now than Reagan's was at this point in his first term. - kelly, on 11/04/2009, -2/+7Ya, because the democrats never did any of that to GWB
- DavidNiven, on 11/04/2009, -2/+7You forgot the /s tag.
- DMCer, on 11/04/2009, -1/+6"No one is saying they attacked us because of Bush"
That's EXACTLY what BasalCellBossk said. - JR__, on 11/04/2009, -6/+11Yes, but Corzine was apparently hated by many people in New Jersey. So it's not really a big surprise that he lost. It would have been a big surprise if Corzine had actually won.
- bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -5/+9True. They're doing as much damage as humanly possible right now in order to prove that "nothing is being done".
- Wosat, on 11/04/2009, -9/+13Only it's not an "obscure election result", it's a Republican winning in a typically Democrat-leaning state.
Your made-up quote was funny though. - rjey, on 11/04/2009, -0/+4Judging from his user name, he wasn't being sarcastic.
Even if he was being sarcastic I had to digg him down because sometimes even sarcasm goes too far. - Totalchaos02, on 11/04/2009, -6/+10There are so many things stupid about your comment. First of all, in September of 2001 some major event happened in America that caused Bush approval rating to jump nearly 50%, do you happen to remember what it was? Bush didn't really do anything to earn it, but its called rallying around the flag. If you want to compare pre 9/11 polls, Obama was about 5 points higher than Bush for the same time period.
However, that is mostly irrelevant because its nearly 10 years later and things are a lot different now. If Obama was at 90% when Bush was at 30% I would no more compare the two than I would if Obama was at 30% when Reagan was at 60%. They are both equally irrelevant.
Second of all, are you trying to deny that Obama inherited an economy in shambles, two wars, and a health care crisis? Whether it is right to still blame Bush aside, you seem to be denying the simple timeline of events in the last 5 years.
Finally, should difficult and complicated legislation be 10 or 100 pages? I am trying to get a good idea on what is acceptable, because it is difficult to be thorough with really complex issues. - youareretarded, on 11/04/2009, -5/+8This isn't a republican/democrat thing. Do you think Americans will simply vote all republicans in if the Dems can't get the job done? If the Dems can't fix this mess Americans will start voting for anyone seemingly more competent than a politician and that's not hard to do (look at California for example).
The republican party is already dead and so will be the democrats if they can't fix this. - bjornski, on 11/05/2009, -0/+3A hell of a lot better than Bush did.
- ChoosyMother, on 11/05/2009, -1/+4The Obama administration can create jobs. That's no problem, we just need to appoint a few million more Czars.
I'm applying for the job of Digg Czar.
I wonder what money they are going to use to pay the people whose jobs were "created" with stimulus money once the stimulus money runs out. Has anyone in the administration even thought about that? - Bartboy919, on 11/04/2009, -5/+7Well, Bill Owens won against Teabagger Hoffman.
Both candidates for governor deserve to have lost. Deeds couldn't campaign for *****, and only courted Obama's help at the very end, and Corzine just wasn't liked at all. - Wosat, on 11/04/2009, -4/+6@KokomoNYC
Try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_stren ... - scoottie, on 11/04/2009, -12/+14Well that and stopping the slide to socialism
- faskippy, on 11/06/2009, -0/+2Oops! Unemployment rates just came out, over 10%. While I'm pissed at Bush AND O bama, I think there's gonna be a day of reckoning for incumbents of both parties. And THAT would suit me just fine.
- captainglobal, on 11/04/2009, -0/+2"It's the economy stupid"
QFT - Wosat, on 11/05/2009, -0/+2@KokomoNYC
I don't think we're very far off on this. I think your analysis is fair, and I never meant to argue that Corzine's loss implies some kind of sure thing for Republicans in 2010 or 2012.
What I think you're missing in your analysis is the margin(s) of victory. Christie won in NJ by 5%, even after an independent pulled 6% of the anti-incumbent vote away from him. Republican Bob McDonnell's victory in the Virginia governor's race was with a margin of 18%! What this shows is that independents and swing voters who were breaking pretty significantly for Obama in 08 can't be counted on to continue voting for Democrats in 2010 and 2012.
I'm not saying this ensures Democrat losses in the future. It's just something interesting -- and valid, which is all I was arguing -- to look at while reflecting on the upcoming 2010 and 2012 elections. - c010rb1indusa, on 11/04/2009, -3/+5Not to mention that's the first time the district has gone blue in over 100 years which is strange because 100 years ago democrats were the conservatives and republicans were the liberals...how things have changed.
- southwestnut, on 11/05/2009, -1/+2"*****. Bush got us attacked and we united against what we perceived as an enemy. "
citation?
he inherited this mess from clinton........if you libs can blame the current mess on bush, we can blame stuff on clinton - Rioracer916, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1As a moderate independent leaning left, I'm going to vote out everyone this upcoming election. I'll be sure to give an extra hard look at 3rd party candidates this round. The Democrats and Republicans are too comfortable with duality they have going on. Time to show them what's what.
- Bloodwine, on 11/04/2009, -0/+1If it is dependent on job growth, they they're *****. It is going to be awhile before the job market heals.
The sad fact is that we could probably operate just fine on half the workforce we previously had, just that the workloads will be heavier. - stompk291, on 11/04/2009, -0/+1and how do you think obama would handle that situation?
- bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -3/+4We have to stop voting for people who make it easier and easier to ship our jerbs overseas.
We're no longer self-sufficient. Our country is 100% reliant on foreign manufacturing.
We're *****.
We need JOBS, not easier credit. Not tax cuts. JOBS! - inactive, on 11/04/2009, -4/+5You stimulate the economy by creating jobs because people with money spend it. You create jobs by lowering taxes on the wealthy because the wealthy own or create the businesses that create the jobs. When the wealthy spend more in taxes they have less money/capital to innovate with and/or pay more employees. It's really not that hard. I guess to Obama it is.
- KokomoNYC, on 11/04/2009, -5/+5"Try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_stren ..."
Yeah. The NJ Governor was a Republican from 1994 to 2002, which gave no indication of 1996 presidential election results. The NJ Governor was a Democrat from 2002 to 2006, which gave no indication of 2004 presidential election results. Now we're back to a Republican Governor. I don't see what the big deal is. Maybe you're trying to get me to look at party membership in other NJ offices, but we're talking about the position of Governor so I'm looking at the position of Governor. - thebreach, on 11/04/2009, -5/+5I think if the Dems fail us, neither party will be too popular. Time for a change! A real change. As in, something other than the 2 current and corrupted parties we have now being in charge for a while.
No green party could ***** things up any more than the current tenants. - bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -4/+4If all legislation had to be simplified to the point of being understandable by these teabagging morons who can't even spell their own protest signs properly, we'd be ***** even worse than we are right now.
Please, no. The dumbing down of America must end. We have to stop catering to the stupid. - DMCer, on 11/04/2009, -16/+16Bush's approval rating was higher at this point into his term than Obama's is now. Apparently, the Obama admin thinks people are still buying his "we inherited this" blame game. That, and you have an entire group of Congressional democrats who are trying to convince everyone that passing 2,000 page health care bill is a good idea, without having even read it for themselves.
- southwestnut, on 11/05/2009, -1/+1obama= fail when it comes to military action.
obama could not handle a terrorist attack on our soil, he would just offer them healthcare or some other treat - c010rb1indusa, on 11/04/2009, -4/+3New Jersey politics is hardly a political statement about President Obama. Jersey is one of the most corrupt states in the country. Every politician runs on cleaning up corruption whether they intend to do so or not and always fail when they get into office. Jersey is always kicking out incumbents and Corzine was no exception.
- Bartboy919, on 11/04/2009, -3/+1http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33608691/ns/politics-m ...
- bjornski, on 11/04/2009, -8/+5@DMCer
You're right. Maybe what Obama needs to bring his ratings up is a terrorist attack on our soil.
That's what got Bush his high approval ratings. Don't even pretend otherwise. - PeppermintPig, on 11/04/2009, -14/+9"You can go on week after week about how Obama's and the Democrats' popularity are just tanking but reality says you should be worried first about the 20% approval rate for Republicans"
Why? The Republicans won't be solving anything. - youareretarded, on 11/04/2009, -8/+3No one is saying they attacked us because of Bush, we are saying we were attacked on his watch despite early warnings.
- AgeofMastery, on 11/04/2009, -14/+9The Republicans lost a seat they've held since the 1850's in New York's 23rd district. And that was with most of the right's big names getting involved.
You guys were saying something? - BerateBirthers, on 11/04/2009, -10/+2That's exactly why we need stimulus II. The private sector CANNOT create wealth, only the government can.
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