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- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36FBI agent Scott Wenther should be prosecuted for perjury, but instead the justice department defends his actions. I know they lie to get confessions from criminals, but to lie to a judge to get the warrant and then try to defend it as "inventiveness" shows just how strong their contempt for the courts has become.
- dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25I forgive you for the double info. The submitting process has been acting up lately.
- nakedlobo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20This is no suprise. I am just suprised that they got caught (the FBI that is).
- bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Hostile17, while most of us here agree that we would like to see people breaking the law go to jail. But when the police break the law trying to put people in jail, you end up in a state like Saddam's, or Lenin's. Is that what we want the US to become? To uphold the law, you must be squeaky clean, this doesn't just apply to our police force, our political leaders as well. How can we enforce human rights around the world when we violate them? (CIA torture prisons)
- djm0ther, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Forgive me for the double info. The submitting process has been acting up lately.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@h0stile17
Would you feel the same way if an FBI agent, on a hunch or using the information from an "un-named" informant, got a wiretap warrant by lying and then listened to all your phone conversations just waiting for something illegal? - Winters, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7One small step for our rights, one giant.... ohh wait.... no, just one small step.
- BobsYourUncle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That link was completely useless.
- Civil44, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The FBI is not evil. Its just political.
I agree the agent should be prosecuted for perjury. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3But our fine boys in blue need to lie because the bleeding heart judges and liberal juries keep letting murderers and rapists go! Rush told me!
- mdm05e, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Stupid Drug Dealers talking on the phone...anyone (well except stupid people) these days knows any form of electronic communication is not safe from prying eyes...
As Lil Flip said "If you can't talk in code bitch don't call my phone" - dishonest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The only interesting thing about this story is the fact that the FBI agent got caught.
If you ask anyone who is honest and has dealt with the criminal justice system as a cop or attorney, they will tell you that the police lie all the time to get what they want and many of them justify their lies based on getting the "bad guys" when, in reality, they and the others who keep quite are the bad guys. - mdm05e, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/372/iceberg.shtml
Good article on the police...LYING to incriminate people. And they wonder why we have so many overcrowded prisons.
And as far as the drug dealers going to jail "If it sells it ought to" - merrittdc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The FBI is the same organization that wants to require ISPs to permanently record all of the web pages we visit and emails we send. At least with the gangs, everyone understands that they are scum. With the FBI, they hide behind their shields, and then lie when they think no one is looking. So much for their integrity.
- Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The overwhelming attitude being demonstrated is that the government wants power above and beyond the law to investigate anything they wish, without oversight or limitations.
Yes - there are certainly criminal and bad elements out there that need to be investigated, but there need to be rules and limits on those investigations. - krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1wasn't this the nextel case where they weren't talking on the phone and the feds remotely turned on his phone to listen in and record?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree, in general the FBI (and other alphabet paramilitary agencies, from the CIA to the Postal Police) have scant regard for warrants/probable cause related documentation to snoop on anyone. The patriot act saw to that and it ensures their immunity to prosecution should anyone dare complain.
- h0stile17, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2This FBI agent did cut some corners and he should be procsecuted but I think that a drug dealers contempt for the courts is somewhat greater than his. I would rather see the drug dealer go to jail in this situation
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