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- alexm1309, on 05/01/2008, -1/+25i just saw gas go up 30 cents in the past 2 weeks here. you think i give a ***** about 18 cents a gallon? like i'm actually going to take the two dollars i saved at the pump and go out to eat with it? what a joke.
- huntress58, on 05/01/2008, -5/+26She is a Republican right?
- xtrachrisbee, on 05/01/2008, -4/+25The Clinton gas tax break is a complete JOKE!
- jforjools, on 05/01/2008, -3/+18The oil companies have already figured out they can charge just about anything they want. Theprice increases have thus far (overall for the nation) not really affected fuel consumption...which shows that this is a supplier's market. If we take the few cents off for gas tax, what would make us believe that the the oil companies would pass that along to the consumers? The only thing they'll pass along is continued high prices.
And hey, even if the full tax does not get passed onto consumers, you'll be lucky to get ten gallons of 'free' gas by the end of a summer. (and that's not this summer, cuz none of the candidates are elected yet.) - motivatedmama, on 05/01/2008, -1/+13Well, I see the gas gimmick worked on someone. If you would please explain what you mean by "something". I knew the pandering would have an effect and I'd really like to hear the logic in supporting it.
- redmannine, on 05/01/2008, -0/+11Plus the whole thing that Irks me about them trying to get the Gas Tax suspended is that the money from the gas tax Goes to fixing and repairing Roads, bridges and other infrastructure! you take that revenue away, and the states end up paying for it later when they have to make repairs.
- geekchic, on 05/01/2008, -3/+13It sounds weird to most of the world that a country with quite low taxes on petrol then wants to lower them even further.
- br0ck, on 05/01/2008, -1/+9"Yes, but in many European countries they have higher MPG standards on their cars, not to mention outstanding public transportation."
Actually, maybe the ultra-high prices there over the last few decades actually led people to develop and use high MPG cars and put more energy into creating proper public transportation? - kipani, on 05/01/2008, -4/+12I hope this doesn't go through
- flightofeagle, on 05/01/2008, -3/+10You're right. Gas tax holiday may NOT even translate into an equivalent price drop - that was the opinion of Leonard Burman of The Tax Policy Center on PBS news today. Why? There isn't any surplus gasoline to go around - refineries are working at or near full capacity. So, one way that the oil companies make sure that they do not run out of gas at the pumps is by adjusting the gas prices. So, an 18 cent tax holiday may actually result in a smaller price drop, if at all!
In fact, when asked who was right - Clinton or Obama, he said both were wrong. This is why: Barack Obama, while opposing the tax holiday, says that it would result in negligible savings for the average family - less than $30 over a 3-month period, or 30cents per day. Leoanard Burman says that Obama, though right in opposing the tax holiday, is still wrong because he assumes that the gas tax holiday will result in an equivalent price drop whereas the drop may be less - so, in effect, the average family WOULD NOT even save 30 cents a day! So, there you go!
Can people see through this gimmick? - inactive, on 05/01/2008, -3/+10You should actually be increasing taxes to increase effiency and reduce you reliance on a finite source in which alot of people believe is peaking/peaked at 86mbpd.
- jforjools, on 05/01/2008, -0/+7I follow everything...except the 'horrible headline' remark.
I thought the headline got it right: you can't find any experts that will say the gas tax holiday is a good idea. - jmpeagle, on 05/01/2008, -2/+8what's with all the caps without a single exclamation point?
- rossmcd, on 05/01/2008, -1/+7How about rather than claim that your facts are better than everyone else's facts, you post a link to a reputable source proving something?
- Joeyrev, on 05/01/2008, -1/+7I always hear that argument from people, "well, in Europe gas is much more expensive." Yes, but in many European countries they have higher MPG standards on their cars, not to mention outstanding public transportation. I would gladly pay double the gas price if I had the option to take a bus/train instead. Unless you live in NYC or some other large metropolitan area, you'll be hard pressed to find that here in the states.
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+6It won't solve anything in the long term(it would make things worst actually) I kinda think it just a ploy to win votes from the middle class demographic.
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+6If a temporary gas tax holiday is a bad idea that's going to end up hurting this country, what makes you think a permanent one is going to be so great?
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+5It may not even solve anything in the short term, as has been pointed out.
- jmpeagle, on 05/01/2008, -0/+5economic populism makes people have or it wouldn't be considered populist.
it won't do anything...demand for oil is still increasing even with higher prices so there is no way we will ever see lower prices. We will have $4 gas by the middle of summer and it will probably increase at a rate of about 10% per year for the foreseeable future...so doubling about every 7 years. - roho76, on 05/01/2008, -0/+4It's ***** like this that makes me embarrassed to be an American. How far we have let ourselves go. But then the anger that I feel towards these ***** quickly overwhelms me back into a fit of rage.
Please, if there are any crazies out there, I'm begging you. ₁I'm sure you can find a list of targets, I mean people, online that you should TALK to. You know what I mean.
₁ This is not a threat but a friendly reminder that bad people should not exist. - insomniac8400, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3Indiana. Northwest Indiana and West Lafayette. I have even seen it when gas stations are on the same side of the street next to each other. People for some reason think shell and bp gas is different than speedway gas. I envy you that you live in an area where people are sane.
- motivatedmama, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3She is a pony and liar who hasn't even pumped her OWN gas in years! Yet some people are willing to believe this crap. Thankfully the MSM seems not to be shirking from tearing her and McCains nonsense down and Obama is taking a firm hand in squashing it. Now McCain has been reported as saying that the tax holiday won't actually do that much, and a former DNC chair is so disgusted he's now backing Obama. How sweet it will be when little Miss Working Class is revealed to her 'flock' as the wolf in sheep's clothing she really is.
- Joeyrev, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3Perhaps I live in a backwards part of the country, but I don't know anyone who wouldn't go across the street for cheaper gas. Are you sure they weren't closed?
- insomniac8400, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3Don't forget that it will be easy to get the tax suspension through the congress, but then when she sends her windfall tax through it will fail miserably. So you are 100% correct when you say the states will have to pay for it. Because neither the federal government nor the oil companies are going to.
- slantyeyed, on 05/01/2008, -0/+3this does nothing to force people to push toward oil alternatives.
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Who knows but they seem to be on the continue march forward.
- buddypriefert, on 05/01/2008, -1/+3Doesn't take an expert to know that such a tax break will only ease the pressure on consumers, thus allowing the oil prices to rise again to the $4-5 equilibrium. I really believe these politicians understand the economics, but know that the general population are idiots who think they are getting a break.
- stealthc, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2Sweet criminy, there's no way I mean defend the status quo. Free the market! They can digg us down together!
- ToastedZergling, on 05/01/2008, -3/+5Gas tax is just another version of Reaganomics, also known as voodoo economics. This is trying to indirectly help consumers, by directly giving a break to big oil.
If this is really an attempt to help taxi-cab drivers, truckers, or those who need to use a great deal of fuel, why not just increase the tax deductibles for travel for these groups? Oh that's right, because that wouldn't also give Exxon Mobile a way to profit. - insomniac8400, on 05/01/2008, -0/+210% a year, try 50%. Our country is screwed.
- jforjools, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Yeah, I'm not surprised she hasn't pumped gas in decades...but her excuse to the reporters yesterday was "the secret service". ??? Is that like the devil made me do it? The secret service guys won't let me? ....or does she just like using our tax dollars to make secret service guys be valets?
- stealthc, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Gas tax *holiday*? Make it a ban, then we'll talk.
- veganpunk, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2wow. ok so are YOU gonna pay for the roads???
- MrFurious2k, on 05/01/2008, -1/+3How about finding a new supply while we're working on our alternative fuels? If you want to give me a real tax holiday, how about you stop raping me every paycheck for social security.
- somberlaine, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2This is pure campaign trail BS. Good luck trying to pass this bill thru congress BEFORE the summer.
- piller187, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2McCain doesn't want to make up the loss. Hillary wants to tax the oil companies to make up the loss. Have fun trying to do that Hillary. And even if you by some miracle are able to tax the oil companies to make up that loss, what do you think they are going to do? Turn around and put it right back on the American people.
At least she is doing something? Hitler did something too, doesn't mean it was the right thing. I don't want a leader who thinks like this. I don't want short term bad ideas, I want real solutions that will work and are thought out. Specific mid campaign promises never work and are only for votes. - JedicodeWarrior, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Why is the gov't dropping the tax? That's one of the things that pays for road maintenance. How about the oil companies reducing their profits and not be the greedy ***** that they are? This break is no break at all. The cost of the fuel is the same, it's just that we're not paying the tax that maintains our roads.
- trogdoor, on 05/02/2008, -0/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_common ...
- inactive, on 05/01/2008, -0/+2Well oil isn't going to be around for ever and in 10, 20, 30 years from now you may look back and think "hey remember when oil was cheap at $115/barrel?"
- TimTheEnchanter, on 05/04/2008, -0/+1You're right, this is not a joke. That's what truly scares me.
- WilliamDavis, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1The only "loss" is from the consumer who originally rightfully owned the money. The government doesn't "lose" anything when they tax less. It just means they are "taking less."
- ZHEStorm, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1It is NOT a joke. The problem is that people look at it like she is doing a tax break ONLY. _This is not the case_. She has not only a short-term plan to help the regular American out, but she ALSO (yes, she really does, unlike Obama or McCain) has a LONG-term plan to ease the prices.
Here are some details on what all she plans to do.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?i ...
Long term details are here:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/ww ...
I wish you damn people would take the time to get the real FACTS before you speak out to attack her. Hillary is the ONLY candidate worth a vote in this election. - inactive, on 05/01/2008, -2/+3If you really mean do nothing and abandon subsidies and loosen drilling restrictions, I am with you. If you mean pursuing the bizarre status quo, I disagree.
- JohnGalt72, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1One problem with prices is Gov't intervention. Our Dept. of Energy subsidizes this industry heavily, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year. This is our tax money at work. By doing this, these gov't bureaucrats typically hand the money to their buddies, not to what is best for the country. Also by doing this, the Gov't creates an uneven playing field in the market, in essence, stifling competition. Gov't intervention has created the oil monopolies. By handing them our tax dollars, they have an unfair advantage over the upstart company that has found a way to use an alternate fuel, so that alternate fuel never gets off the ground.
The problem, in other words, isn't the oil companies making a profit...that's what a company is supposed to do. The problem....is Gov't interference in the marketplace. But you won't hear ANY politician telling you that as they like the control and power that they have, so they'll tell you it's the "greedy capitalists". - ZHEStorm, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1Oh please... on a daily basis? LOL! You want lies? Check out the huge laundry list of Obama lies.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/THE_TRUTH_VS_BAR ... - stealthc, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1Emphasis on the *him*
- davidlow, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1No, she's just from the radical right wing of the Democratic party.
- domino42, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1So you're saying the problem in your city isn't money its the "idiots" managing construction. I'm assuming your city uses extra funding to try to smooth over the idiots mistakes: Hire more people than needed and they will most likely catch each others mistakes. I think the best solution would be to hire competent people to do the work.
- Daedalus81, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1This would be in reference to "well, in Europe gas is much more expensive".
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