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- sarahlee, on 12/23/2008, -8/+114Bush promised that who ever was responsible would be held accountable. Come on, George W., do the right thing or at least do not pardon the crook.
FTA: " Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a still-highly confidential FBI report, admitted to federal investigators that he rewrote talking points for the press in July 2003 that made it much more likely that the role of then-covert CIA-officer Valerie Plame in sending her husband on a CIA-sponsored mission to Africa would come to light.
"Cheney conceded during his interview with federal investigators that in drawing attention to Plame’s role in arranging her husband’s Africa trip reporters might also unmask her role as CIA officer.
"Cheney denied to the investigators, however, that he had done anything on purpose that would lead to the outing of Plame as a covert CIA operative. But the investigators came away from their interview with Cheney believing that he had not given them a plausible explanation as to how he could focus attention on Plame’s role in arranging her husband’s trip without her CIA status also possibly publicly exposed. At the time, Plame was a covert CIA officer involved in preventing Iran from obtaining weapons of mass destruction, and Cheney’s office played a central role in exposing her and nullifying much of her work.
"Cheney revised the talking points on July 8, 2003– the very same day that his then-chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, met with New York Times reporter Judith Miller and told Miller that Plame was a CIA officer and that Plame had also played a central role in sending her husband on his CIA sponsored trip to the African nation of Niger." - GovernmentSp00k, on 12/23/2008, -5/+75Darth Cheney strikes again! You can be rest assured this BS is only the tip of a humungous iceberg. "SO?!" barks the illustrious president of vice, from the sidelines.
Amazing what these taxpayer funded, organized crime voted into power deception artists are allowed to get away with at our expense.
Who's doing time? No one.
Where is the federal investigation?
Why isn't this on all controlled TV "news" channels plus cable? They're too busy smearing & rigidly scrutinizing Obama before he takes office.
Open a trial venue at The Hague. Let's get a War Crimes trial goin' on. - msaroff, on 12/23/2008, -8/+69Holy $#@% the smoking gun!!!!!
- chesterjosiah, on 12/23/2008, -6/+62/sigh
All the crooked behavior going on makes me depressed. No matter how many stories like this come to light, nothing gets done.
I have the feeling something huge is gonna spring up. Just like Digg's HD-DVD encryption key thing on May 1st 2007, but 100 times nastier. - solstice21, on 12/24/2008, -4/+47If this crew doesn't get tried for war crimes then what's the point of having laws against them
- Anomaly100, on 12/23/2008, -5/+47"One of the jurors in the case, Dennis Collins, told the press shortly after the verdict that he and many other jurors believed that Libby was serving as a “fall guy” for Cheney, and had lied to conceal the role of his boss in directing information about Plame to be leaked to the press."
What a shock! Really not surprising that a jury of folks believed Cheney to be behind this travesty of justice. That man sends chills down my spine. - gthrank, on 12/23/2008, -5/+30This will be the final proof that Bush is a lying, treasonous SOB - he'll refuse to make good on his public promise to dismiss and punish anyone found responsible.
- MsLaurel, on 12/23/2008, -4/+29Somebody's really sure he's going to get a pardon. More arrogance and audacity.
- kroses, on 12/24/2008, -6/+25Where is Nancy Pelosi in all of this? Why has IMPEACHMENT always been "off the table?" Most of the Democrats have been as complicit as the RePUKES, I am sorry to say. Otherwise, where are their backbones? Where are their principles? It makes me sick! I am hoping that Obama will appoint a Special Prosecutor. If he doesn't, I will be very disappointed.
- MadN, on 12/24/2008, -2/+19What again is the penalty for Treason during a time of War?
- AmazingSteve, on 12/24/2008, -0/+15Bush says a lot of things. What makes you even think for a minute that he'll do the right thing? Instead, regardless of the evidence, we'll get some ***** of other about the "good of the Country," or it being "a time for national healing blah blah blah..."
Cheney's been pretty loose with confessions as of late because he knows he's got a first class ticket on the pardon train. It's basically his way of flipping off the American people while saying, "***** you all, what are YOU gonna do about it." - FarOutGrace, on 12/23/2008, -9/+24The part of this that I find confusing is Blago's foul mouth yelling out f-ing this and f-ing that "All they wanna show me is appreciation." He admits no one will give him money, but noooo! Mr Obama MUST be guilty. The focus shifts from Blago admitting his guilt to Obama being scrutinized because they want him to be guilt. It boggles the mind.
- MarciaJ720, on 12/24/2008, -0/+14He's out on the circuit admitting everything so that Bush can Pardon him on January 19th, 2009.
Dick Cheney is not dumb, a Dick maybe, but not dumb. - grinsy, on 12/24/2008, -0/+13Actually, Plame was outed ten times to five reporters by three White House officials before Novak's column was finally published in July 2003.
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Plame_Leak_timeline
Armitage was the #2 guy at State. He was a Republican. They were still playing on the same team at the time.
Nonetheless, the point you seem to want to ignore is that the outing was part of an attempt to discredit Wilson who was openly leaking the facts about the bad WMD intelligence from Niger that got us into this dumbass war in Iraq. Everyone and their brother knows those marching orders came from Cheney. Libby was just too chicken to give his boss up. - shupy, on 12/24/2008, -6/+19Sad thing is, Republicans are so hung up on trying to dig up a scandal about Obama, they don't even notice stuff like this. They'd rather waste the court's time trying to prove something is wrong with Obama's birth certificate.
- iceman0113, on 12/24/2008, -3/+15Dick Cheney, the modern day Benedict Arnold.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+12In America? lol, in your dreams! Americans don't have the balls! They don't know that pissing on tear gas puts it out, they don't know that lazers blind shooters, they don't know that if needed IED's can work in New York with extreme effect. They don't have the balls. They are also not prepared either, one wiff of rebellion and these thugs in power will have every sharp shooter they know at call. The military would lock up 3/4 of the country before word got out that America has just been taken over by a regime, sif that's news! These pricks are so power hungry they would bomb cities in the US with Whiskey Pete before submission. Hope you have a mud supply and breathing gear with good seals. That Military you love so much is your greatest enemy and your prison guards.
- AmazingSteve, on 12/24/2008, -1/+13Unless you're Dick Cheney, then it's a big Xmas bonus from Haliburton and a shiny gold watch.
- AmazingSteve, on 12/24/2008, -2/+14Funny, you all seemed to love anonymous sources during the election. Have a seat hypocrite.
- GrandmaSheila, on 12/24/2008, -3/+14"Treason can never flourish.
"Why, what's the reason?
"If Treason flourish, none dare call it Treason" - inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+11Death!
- MrDNA, on 12/24/2008, -3/+13Time to take a queue from our brothers and sisters in Greece.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -3/+13Most of us know that Cheney won't face the consequences
- dn11, on 12/24/2008, -1/+11Republicans? How about the media? Where have they been for the last 8 years?? Obama's not even in office yet and they're already desperate to tie a scandal to him. It's like a group of thugs broke into our house and lived there for the last 8 years - trashed and vandalized it, sold off all the valuables before leaving - the media totally ignored it - but the guy hired to fix the place afterward? Better watch that one closely.
- nightwing2000, on 12/24/2008, -0/+10Another line of stupidity in this comedy of screwups...
Wilson was told by the CIA that he was going on a mission at the request of the VP. However, Cheney had no idea about Wilson, had simply asked the CIA to verify this fact, did not care or want to know how.
Wilson comes back and says "It's all a crock. Sadam never tried to buy yellowcake, the documents are all forgeries". The CIA simply added this to the list of evaluations - "Some of our analysis says this may have happened, other analysis says it's unlikely" because they knew what Cheney wanted to hear and he didn't want to hear "It's not true".
So Cheney picks the intel he likes -"Sadam tried to buy uranium ore", ignoring the "maybe" and "maybe not". Wilson hears the speeches, and says "That so-and-so asked me to check it, then ignores what I told him". He tells this to the media.
Cheney says to his aides "Who is this bozo? I've never heard of him, and he's trying to make me out a liar." So they smear him any way they know how. They say he's nobody, he's incompetent, he only got the job because his wife works for the CIA. Oops.
It never occurs to these screwups that the law to protect overseas undercover spies applies to analysts like Plame who are no longer overseas. Nevertheless, a Google of her cover-story employer by some news organization reveals at least one other person with the same company on his resume. He hastily removes his resume from the web, and hopefully within a few months the entry will disappear from Google cache. The newspaper, unlike Cheney, decides not to reveal the name of this other (ex)CIA operative.
So we have a comedy of screwups - people who overstate the importance of assignments, people who take it personally when the facts contradict them, people who have the vindictive nastiness to totally screw over anyone who messes with them - because they can.
Lost in all this is the reason for the law - not ony don't you want to reveal who is an undercover spy overseas, you don't want to reveal who was a CIA analyst in an embassy, even once they're home. It was a standing joke that the "Cultural Attache" for the Soviet embassy was the KGB guy
We don't want a specific group of roles to be specially targetted or watched by foreigners, whether terrorists or govrnments. We don't want every embassy employee to be automatically assumed to be CIA, more than already. All Cheney has done was to confirm to the world that "yes, no doubt about it, in case you wondered - we hide CIA people in other jobs in our embassies. Any one of those people could be a CIA operative."
The fact that Obama seems to keep his cool and bite his tongue in these sorts of situations - sounds like he's a much smarter, much more controlled fellow and will run a far better administration... If he can keep his VP under control. - humanstruggle, on 12/24/2008, -0/+9ummmm .. can we prosecute NOW?
- HippyJM, on 12/24/2008, -0/+8***** Dick Cheney. Reports are coming out that 1 in 5 people think he is the worst VP in US history. I don't know who they are talking to, but 5 out of 5 people I talk to say he is the worst US politician ever.
- rowjimmy, on 12/24/2008, -0/+8americans only riot over important things, like football games.
and rather than some kind of crazy political agenda, american riots are true blue - we're looking for free big screen tvs and heineken - jikmo, on 12/24/2008, -1/+9So did you RTFA?
I think not
Since when are federal investigators bloggers? - MSUKate, on 12/24/2008, -3/+11Utterly Disgusting.
- mgraham80, on 12/24/2008, -4/+11You're also going to die one day, nothing you can do about it. So give up.
- jfsimard79, on 12/24/2008, -1/+8“Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.” - George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -1/+8http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
Put your zipcode in and get all the contact information you need for your elected representatives. Lean on 'em and campaign against them next time if things don't get voted on your way. - RogueGenius, on 12/24/2008, -3/+10BTW Valerie Plame was a great hero who tried to serve her country quietly and effectively. And she did so until the day the criminal Chaney outed her, compromised all her foreign contacts and damaged the nation for his own personal vendetta. We still don't know who her contacts were, and how many of those who were working for us are dead now because of his cowardly evil.
- nightwing2000, on 12/24/2008, -1/+8Yes. Apparently Armitage, a white house guy, not part of the Cheney-Scooter inner circle, calls Novak out of the blue after not wanting to talk to him for months. he wants to have a quick discussion in his office about Wilson.
Even Novak admists this was too odd - it looked like it was arranged by the Cheney gang to have someone outside their circle do the smear, for deniability and plausibility. The meeting was specifically set up for this leak by someone who normally did not talk to Novak. It was a specific invitation, not a chance encounter at a restaurant of social function.
Too easy. - mechnoch, on 12/24/2008, -2/+8The lack of ourtrage from people like you is a big part of the problem, Slowley.
- EntropyMan, on 12/24/2008, -0/+6The way we're going with these stories, Bush will almost certainly pardon Cheney. Well-meaning activists and cynical neocons are pushing this story at exactly the wrong time for anything good to get done about it. Even Cheney is daring people to get outraged, probably to force Bush to act before he leaves office.
For best results, the sequence of events should be:
1. Obama gets his first 100 days to take care of new business, says we should look forward not back.
2. Public pressure grows over time, Obama commissions independent panel to look into what we all know happened.
3. Obama is "shocked, shocked," says the report is extremely troubling and unprecedented in the history of the US. Special prosecutors are warranted, or at worst, a "truth and reconciliation" commission.
4. ???
5. Then, something good might happen.
The key is, he can't seem like has has an axe to grind nor any prejudice. He also can't take it up first, because that itself sets a dangerous precedent (much as it's warranted in this case), which the Democrats will assume will be used against them down the road -- not that they're wrong, but when did the Republicans ever need precedent as an excuse?
Push too hard now, and BushCo will circle the wagons instead of taking a much needed exit. - Deeh, on 12/24/2008, -0/+6To make sure that no war crimes are committed by pot-smokers and un-wed mothers.
- swrostmore, on 12/24/2008, -1/+7This ignorant tripe has +6 diggs? As covered by other posters, Armitage wasn't even close to the only Bush Administration official to leak Plame.
For *****'s sake its in the public record that Cheney's chief of staff leaked her ID. - RogueGenius, on 12/24/2008, -0/+6Yup. That is exactly what is happening.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -3/+9I new that guy was a bad apple the first time I saw him.
Tar and feather him! - inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+6At least there will be acknowledgment of wrong-doing... Better than the potential alternative of the whole thing being swept under the rug for political reasons. There's no question it'd be a horribly polarizing affair...and a lot of people in both parties would be out to stop it from happening...
- RogueGenius, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5No. Again, Wilson was doing his job. When the yellowcake intelligence was revealed (it turned out to be such a blatant forgery that the UN debunked, no joke, in about a half an hour - but Wilson had know way of knowing that at the time), he did nothing but try to kick it up the chain his personal knowledge of its error. Unfortunately, the chain was compromised at the top and it went nowhere. In a heroic attempt to avert a pointless, unexplained war, he wrote an op ed. Cheney, ever the childish, backstabbing mother *****, took it out on his family. Sure, Plame's contacts were compromised, but we could always have the CIA redact the info of who got killed because of Cheney's treason.
The ***** sucker should be tried for treason, and if (when) convicted shot as a traitor in a time of war. (Ironic, since he was the one who manufactured the state of war.) - inactive, on 12/24/2008, -8/+13Why do you people even care anymore? How much evidence has been posted to the front page, yet nothing has been done?
Nothing is going to happen; Cheney's going to get off scot-free and not even your hero, Obama, will do anything about it.
You can bury me down, but please look at this from a realistic perspective. - vortexbits, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5I thought of Bush as THE man of blood but the closer one looks at the Bush administration, and the more it seems this idiot president was simply a puppet and the stepping stone for a horde of idiots and predators alike. These neoconservative dimwits all gave God and country a bad name.
- rrouse, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5There's a special place in hell for Cheney.
- inactive, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5Joe Wilson wasn't "doing a spy's job." He wasn't covert. He was openly meeting with ambassadors and government officials...asking questions that made it plainly obvious what his job was. The fact that he was working for the CIA was of no consequence. The CIA is an *intelligence* agency...not purely a *spy* agency. They've got all sorts of people working for them...analysts...spies...some covert...some not... Gathering intelligence is most certainly NOT purely the job of a spy.
- RogueGenius, on 12/24/2008, -1/+6Don't argue with trolls. His party is dying. That's enough for me.
- wheresjim, on 12/24/2008, -0/+5Getting the pardon though would be tantamount to admitting guilt, he doesn't think he's wrong on this, or anything he does.
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