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Ex-Reagan Republican: Impeach Bush and Cheney IMMEDIATELY. By P C ROBERTS

counterpunch.org:80 — By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS--Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran. Bush has put in place all the necessary measures for dictatorship in the form of "executive orders" that are triggered whenever Bush declares a national emergency. Recent statements by Homelan

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  • fritson, on 10/11/2007, -7/+86Excerpt from the article: Americans might expect a series of staged, or false flag, "terrorist" events in the near future. Many attentive people believe that the reason the Bush administration will not bow to expert advice and public opinion and begin withdrawing US troops from Iraq is that the administration intends to rescue its unpopular position with false flag operations that can be used to expand the war to Iran. William Norman Grigg recently wrote that the GOP is "praying for a terrorist strike" to save the party from electoral wipeout in 2008. Ask yourself: Would a government that has lied us into two wars and is working to lie us into an attack on Iran shrink from staging "terrorist" attacks in order to remove opposition to its agenda.

    The American constitutional system is near to being overthrown. Are coming "terrorist" events of which Chertoff warns and Santorum promises the means for overthrowing our constitutional democracy.
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -4/+38I've posted before and I'll do so again, if you believe that "Americans might expect a series of staged, or false flag, "terrorist" events in the near future." could never happen think again.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
      • DLFul0531, on 10/11/2007, -22/+5Only in America are we so convinced that our enemies are not enemies. Rather, our neighbors are the enemy. This is nonsense. The sad part is that you believe it. We really did not make those "bad" people destroy the Twin Towers. The above position might be logical if it had one rational argument to support it. As it is, it is simply nonsense. We are in trouble. Indeed, we are. We cannot even recognize our enemies.
        • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19Did I mention the Twin Towers? I believe not. The reference to the Wikipedia article mentions a report that was declassified that indicated the OUR OWN military contemplated staging small attacks on American soil and blame them on Cuba, in order to garner support for military action against cuba.
          If you feel that the declassified documents are false, then I suggest your contact the Library of Congress and let them know that someone made a mistake. Any country that would contemplate military action against its citizens on its on soil is untrustworthy at best.
          If you feel that "things" have changed that much in 40 years, and that our Military and Government think differently now, again you are mistaken. People of power will go to great lengths to hold on to that power.

          "Rather, our neighbors are the enemy."
          I suppose you've never heard "Keep your enemies close, but your friends closer"
        • StarlessKnight, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@Bdog2g2: The phrase is "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer." AKA: "To know your enemy, you must become your enemy... Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." - Sun Tzu
      • ckhw2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6About the article - There is minor support for impeachment in the US Congress. And the reason should be apparent - Any sensible politician would be willing to allow someone like Bush to change the amendment and laws as much as they want - giving more powers of infringement to the government. This is why I think even people like Obama said "no" to impeachment and simply said - "vote the bums out". It's true that US is now more of a police state than ever before. Sure, it's bad for citizens, but politicians play the "power game" and the more power the better. The salary sucks anyway. This is how I know - I would do the same thing in their position!

        Think about it - even with overwhelming public support, the Democrat led congress still gave Bush enough money to carry on the war for as long as it likes. It's in their "best interest" to keep the war going. The dull reality is that almost everything that the Bush Administration has done, greatly improved America's status as sole superpower in today's world. The UN has been undermined and shunned aside as incompetent. And now, the rest of the world watches helplessly as the US plays global bully.
        • ckhw2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3"Think about it - even with overwhelming public support, the Democrat led congress still gave Bush enough money to carry on the war for as long as it likes. It's in their "best interest" to keep the war going." - waitaminute.. I take that back. The interests in holding onto Iraq (democracy, oil, or whatever you like to call it) has nothing to do with Bush's "changes to amendment". Unless there's some link I'm missing. Still, no self-respecting politician is going to stop Bush from giving the government more power.
    • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25Anyone that swears an oath the the Constitution and then undermines the Constitution should be removed from duty for dereliction.

      Remember your oaths. Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. The majority of the citizens stand firmly in support of the Constitution. The people who do not support the Constitution are the aiders and abettors of deceit.

      The Constitution is not perfect, nothing man has anything to do with ever is. It is, I strongly feel, the wisest document ever created by mankind. Under its mandates a free society has flourished more than any of its authors could have hoped or dreamed. Many people have led honorable and prosperous lives under the flag that represents this nation built on the foundation of the Constitution. The rights and liberties afforded by the Constitution are the birthright of our children, and our childrens' children.

      It is not the Constitution that has failed us. It is us that has failed to enforce the Constitution.

      Enforce it now, it is not too late.

      If you have sworn an oath to protect and defend the people of this land, if you have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, I urge you with every ounce of being to not betray yourself, your oath, not to betray our Constitution.

      May God save the Constitution of the United States.
      • Kugo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3In answer to your question: yes of course. Read 1984.
  • LoneRanger85, on 10/11/2007, -60/+8You people are nuts. Where was all this paranoia and outrage when Clinton sent tanks to kill 82 men, women and children at Waco in 1993? Oh, some of you were in elementary school.
    • Karl77, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26What does that have to do with anything?
      • blackcloud333, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Nothing, like usual
      • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Well, gee, if I were you guys, I would have assumed that was the beginning of the Nazi Fascist NWO NeoCon Police State. And I'm sure plenty of people just like you said it was.
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20Well to be fair, judging by your handle I'd say you were probably elementary school as well.
    • enki25, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Good point, the overthrow of the US government by a police state is indeed comparable to a police action involving 80 religious weirdos. You suck.
    • gwolf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4There isn't much precedent for what Bush had done in U.S. history, but there is plenty in the rest of the world. It's called a dictatorship where extraordinary powers are vested in very ordinary men. This will not be permitted, allowed or forgotten by the American people. The Democratic party simply doesn't have a great enough majority in both houses to sustain an impeachment or it would already be underway. I can only hope the Republican Party, not the neocons who have hijacked their party, will step up with the Dems and do something soon.
    • theeEqualizer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Well I was watching. And I was already an adult at the time. I was horrified. But that was NOTHING... NOTHING I say, compared to the devastation to our core values perpetrated against the American people by this president and his gang of criminals. Dragging Clinton into this with Waco, perjury, Vince Foster or any other straw you can desperately grasp at is just pathetic. Is this your argument for vindication of the Bush administration??? And you're calling US nuts?
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I do remember Waco and from what I remember there was outrage.
    • Cmonkey67, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3But but but...BILL CLINTON!!!
  • cindylauper, on 10/11/2007, -8/+120Digg for impeachment, bury against...lets see what people think. Digg
    • david76, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4Isn't it this sort of black and white thinking that got us into this situation in the first place?
      • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6black? no, white, white, definitely white. wait, i've changed my mind again: black.

        not really, no.

        turquoise.
    • willgill, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3You mean let's see what 20-somethings with too much time on their hands think.
      This is hardly a poll that means anything other than that.
      • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5you are overly broad, generalizing, diminutive, and wrong,
        • iluvgossip, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Right, it should be "let's see what teenagers with too much time on their hands think."
        • Twisty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What's wrong with that?
    • weeFred, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7See this is the problem, you'll talk about how much you hate Bush, how bad the government is, how much support there is for impeachment.... blah de blah. Talking about stuff doesn't get anything done, you won't change a government by sitting about on the internet talking about impeachment. Nothing will change until you make it change. Organise mass protests, organise huge strikes until something is done, bring the country to it's knees and demand that something change. I seriously thought that the US was going to revolt the night that Bush let Libby off the hook, what happened... nothing. Stop being lazy and do something other than talk about ***** on the internet.
      • cindylauper, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2how long did it take you to write that?
        • weeFred, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2about a minute and a half, was there a point to your question?
        • iainc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Holy crap, cindylauper. You really don't like people firing you up, do you? Quit being defensive. Stop lurking and checking back to see if your ego has been massaged and your conscience salved. Stop having a dig(g) at people who are basically ON YOUR SIDE.

          DO SOMETHING REAL AND POSITIVE AND GOOD. DO SOMETHING YOU CAN BE PROUD OF.
      • aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1He somewhat gives himself away in the way he spells organize. "organise". He is from a foreign land or can't spell in American English. Perhaps a European communist.
        • weeFred, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Scottish/British, fiscally conservative and socially quite liberal I would say. Outside the US politics aren't conducted in a black and white manner.
          • aadyss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Sorry, don't care about "outside the U.S."
      • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Mass protests are now marginalized because of "free speech zones" and the refusal of the main stream media to cover them...or the discrediting of anything BUT government propaganda by the MSM. Unions have also lost the bargaining power they once had. People are now either apathetic or afraid to stand up against their own government. That is indeed a sad state of the union in 2007.
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4Buried for the conspiracy nonsense.
    • ryryindo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0i dugg it because i want those punks out
      but i want to digg down because pelosi would then be president
      you may now begin your prayers
    • iainc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Wow! That'll achieve ... the best part of ***** all. How about getting thell hell off Digg and helping organise pro-Democracy, anti-Facsist rallies or some sort of massive civil disobedience movement, ooh, like not paying your unconstitutionally levied taxes. I'd help do it for you, but I'm not an American.

      Stop talking the talk and start walking the walk my friend.
  • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -33/+5Paul Craig Roberts is a certifiable lunatic.
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17certifiable lunatic, definition:
      -an insane person
      -person disagreeing with the Bush Administration
      -one who calls opposition to war non-support for the troops
      (ref: 'NEOCON dictionary', also see "Responses to well known facts, Disputing the truth")

      antonym: BUSH, NEO-CONS, and every other idiot who doesn't smell the ***** this administration shovels
      • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -12/+2Umm no. He's an insane 9/11 troofer.

        Nice job making an assumption, though. You fit right in here on digg.
        • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
          You make the most ridiculous claims on digg, hell I had you blocked for about 6 months, but then I unblocked you because I needed a few laughs. I also needed to get a reading on the "Neo-con" thermometer, looks like its on nuclear, literally.
        • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Good grief, jcm267: If Roberts is a certifiable idiot", why did THIS Bush administration use him as a consultant on economic policy in the early days? Second, although I can't give you a link, I personally HEARD Rumsfeld do a press conference about his little ministry of DISINFORMATION. Because there was outrage against it, it was allegedly shut down, but all you have to do is pinpoint all the paid ads placed on MSM by the administration....including the Armstrong Williams controversy, et al, to see that that has been done...and that it will probably continue to be done. You seem to brand anyone who disagrees with you or with that government propaganda as insane. Maybe people have become paranoid, but it's hard not to be paranoid with the abuses of power going on.
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Good grief, jcm267: If Roberts is a certifiable idiot"
            - I called him a lunatic, big difference. Hitler was a lunatic, but he was also brilliant. Same goes for the likes of Manson, Bundy, or Kaczynski. Hell even a local serial killer and certifiable lunatic, Michael Ross, was a Cornell graduate.

            "why did THIS Bush administration use him as a consultant on economic policy in the early days"
            - Because he's an economist, maybe?

            "Second, although I can't give you a link, I personally HEARD Rumsfeld do a press conference about his little ministry of DISINFORMATION"
            - First off, I'd like to see a link. Secondly, I'd love to see the entire press conference or whatever it was to see the context. In case you've never watched C-Span, Rumsfeld was known to say a lot of things tongue and cheek.

            "Because there was outrage against it, it was allegedly shut down, but all you have to do is pinpoint all the paid ads placed on MSM by the administration"
            - Does their little MOD extend to the British press, as well? I can't help but wonder if the Guardian and the Economist are also under Bush's spell.

            "including the Armstrong Williams controversy, et al, to see that that has been done"
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armstrong_Williams#Selling_the_Bush_Administration.27s_.22No_Child_Left_Behind.22_policy
            - I find that interesting... but at the same time I remember that much of the press was quite skeptical about No Child Left Behind. There's definitely a moral issue here, but legally I'm not sure if they broke any laws. Doesn't the White House has first amendment rights just like anyone else?

            "You seem to brand anyone who disagrees with you or with that government propaganda as insane. Maybe people have become paranoid, but it's hard not to be paranoid with the abuses of power going on."
            - I brand followers of Alex Jones as lunatics. Do you really think that Bush has gotten to the entire media? Between CBS News, NBC News, Time Warner, the NY Times, the Washington Post, and all of the lesser left wing publications and blogs do you really think there is no voice of dissent in the mainstream media?
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I must admit, I doubted that what you said was true. A lunatic? That takes things a bit far. Until I read this:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Craig_Roberts#September_11.2C_2001_attacks
      • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Wow. A digger who knows how to use "google" when he comes across something he's not entirely familiar with.
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And what does that make you're latest articles dugg are as follows.

      list of articles
      #1 - John Kerry hates freedom
      More Troofer Retardedness: Alex Jones is the T-Rex of Talk Radio
      9/11 SKEPTICS' LUNATIC FRINGE TARGETS VICTIM'S WIDOW (NY Post)
      9-11 Twoofers In A Nutshell
      It's the TROOF! 9/11 Press for Troof made a movie film

      Are these the sources for your arguments?

      For someone who hates "truthers" and conspiracy theories, you digg a log of ***** that appears to make you feel better about being on the other side of that fence. Kind of like Bush surrounding himself with yes people and thinking he's right.
      • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I've been on an anti-truther kick for the past week or so. sue me.

        How does this prove anything besides that I'm on digg too much?
        • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Much like other aspects of life, your habits reveal more about you than anything else.
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I'm not sure if that's a jab at the time I spend on digg or at the fact that I enjoy teasing troofers on digg. You seem to spend more time on digg than I do.... and I only go on digg when I'm either at work or when it's my turn to watch after my grandmother.
  • bariswheel, on 10/11/2007, -29/+6 Everyone is factory installed with opinions, famous ones just write paranoid articles to make more money.

    This is SO lame. ***** buried. Digg needs to get rid of the this cancer. This is real life, not a Die Hard movie.
    • c0yote, on 10/11/2007, -10/+1Not only is it the delusional rant of one nutjob, this is like the third article to make the front page in the last few days.
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2All of these ***** are going to feel really stupid in 2009 when they have a new president and nothing came of their rants, just like it always has throughout history when people bitched about crap like this.
      • aadyss, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Naw, they will just find something else to hate or find another conspiracy theory. Most likely both.
  • tsoldrin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+55Thanks to Bush and a compliant congress, the ground work is laid out for a complete police state ... even if you think Bush is not going to institute it you should worry because someone else down the road might. THAT is the Bush legacy... leaving us at the mercy of a future authoritarian by setting a precedent of ignoring the constitution and the rule of law.

    • Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20I almost wish that they'd realize that by giving power to a president they favor, these whackos are giving that power to all subsequent presidents, including ones they'll fear/hate/disagree with. Of course, rather than having some form of elightened notion that such power SHOULDN'T belong to ANY president, they'd decide that they favor Bush becoming "President for Life" or some equally loopy idea.
      • DLFul0531, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3The power of executive orders did not begin with George Bush. If the country is attacked by external forces and hit hard with a decapitation attack from within, we may well need a period of martial law. Enjoy your hate, because you won't enjoy what can come with a war on our own soil which is exactly the danger we face, not George Bush taking over with deception.
        • clark24, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Looks like someone has been drinkin the GOP Kool-Aid!
      • DebbilsAdvocate, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You do realize of course, that the path for Bush to grab power was paved by big government Democrats before him, right? Ever since FDR and his New Deal, the feds have been expanding far beyond the Constitution into the monstrosity it is now.
        • Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Like suspending Habeas? Yeah, that was really cool when FDR did that. Or the Patriot Act, or warrantless wiretapping.

          Sorry. You were "b-b-but the Democrats"ing. Carry on.
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Weren't the Democrats in the majority in the Senate when the Patriot Act was passed? How many nay votes were there?

            And BTW... How is suspending Habeas during a time of war unconstitutional? The warrantless wiretapping is technically legal, given that one party is overseas. You really can do better than this.
          • DebbilsAdvocate, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Which part of "paved the way" didn't you understand? It's all been building for 60 years. But if it makes you feel better, keep crying yourself to sleep about how the mean old Republicans have ruined everything for the saintly Democrats. The rest of us living here in the real world will just point at you and laugh, ignorant fool.
      • iluvgossip, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2As long as we don't allow the 2nd Amendment to be destroyed the Republic is not without hope. There can be no tyranny over an armed populace. I just hope all of the young Diggers get this point, understand WHY the framers of the Constitution put that right into place, and oppose all of the crazy anti gun laws.
    • c0yote, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8THIS is an accurate statement of the problem. It goes beyond just bush and terrorism though. Seatbelt laws, marijuana prohibition, smoking bans, pretty soon we'll have socialized healthcare, it won't be long after that we start to implement more "we know whats best for you" type laws and ban trans fats in restaurants. We've lost financial freedom to combat money laundering and drug trade, we've lost freedom of speech over hate speech, I wonder whats next on the chopping block.
      • Qeveren, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I'll agree with you on everything there except healthcare and seatbelt laws. 'Course, I'm Canadian so I'm kinda biased when it comes to the healthcare issue. :)
    • Kugo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10tsoldrin has a clue. He speaks the truth. The danger is the danger is there. The pieces are in play and the system can at any time be exploited. Good post.
  • biggD, on 10/11/2007, -5/+64EARTH TO CONGRESS... COME IN CONGRESS....
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+25"do da deee, We're sorry, but the party you are trying to reach couldn't be located. Please hangup and try again. This message was brought to you by Haliburton and its partners. You start the war, we'll rebuild the country."
    • Kugo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4So true. Your 'opposition party' are a bunch of wusses of the highest caliber of wussiness. Unfortunately.
  • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -30/+7And, once again, diggers mistake opinion for news.

    It's rather funny to see the impeach hounds gather around a fear mongering Reaganite.

    I hate to break it to the self described "attentive," but.....impeaching a disliked pair of politicians is not going to magically fix anything. It doesn't guaranted removal from office even if the brave little snowball didn't melt in hell.

    You guys are simply feeding clicks to a website who knows what some of you want to hear.
  • thekinneret, on 10/11/2007, -27/+4Is Bush a terrible President? Yes. Has he done anything to warrant impeachment? No. This is ludicrous. Bush, while a horrible president, has done NOTHING to warrant articles of impeachment. There's a reason the overwhelming majority of democrats in Congress are not talking about impeachment: that's because it's ludicrous. Yes, the spy program was questionable (no, NOT illegal - read your fourth amendment). Yes, the Iraq War is bad (not illegal - read Article I). Yes, there are a lot of problems in this administration. But to say that Bush has acted illegally is false. He has acted poorly, foolishly, and may be one of our worst presidents, but the people are partly to blame for that too.
    • Dumbledorito, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I'd love to tell you, in my opinion, how wrong you are, but due to a recent executive order such an act could be classified as undermining the war effort in Iraq and my stuff would get taken away by by the feds. Sorry for any inconvenience.
    • topapito, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Meanwhile, Clinton gets impeached for getting a blow job. All Bush can do is lie about Weapons of Mass Destruction. What do you mean he cannot be impeached?
      • twinklyJesus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Liar. Clinton was impeached for perjury. He was being charged with sexual harassment, and Congress, trying to establish grounds, questioned him about rumors of an affair in the White House. He lied before Congress, under oath, and was impeached. He was found guilty.
        • iluvgossip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And don't forget that he wound up paying Paula Jones, the woman who he allegedly harassed, $850,000. I always love it when people say that the Republicans deserve more scrutiny because of the "hypocrisy" over stuff like drugs/prostitution. Meanwhile Clinton signs into law the very law that gave the authority to question him over affairs in the office and somehow it isn't hypocrisy when he lies under oath. Funny how that works. I guess only Republicans can be hypocritical. They should make a change in the dictionary to make that more clear.

          Don't get me wrong, both parties suck. But I wish the Dems were less holier than thou about it. At least when the Republicans get caught they are usually forced out by their own party members. The Dems just rally around and call it a conspiracy until somebody gets convicted.
        • bumb1ebee, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Clinton was NOT found guilty of perjury or any other charges. How are you getting digged up for that?

          However, I strongly believe that Clinton deserved to be impeached for reasons that are much more important than the waste-of-time Monica Lewinsky circus show. Reasons such as attacking sovereign country that was no threat to us or its neighbors (Yugoslavia), for several controversial incidents with the Chinese (accepting millions in illegal campaign dollars, wanting to give a naval base in CA to the Chinese), and bombing several countries such as Iraq, Sudan, Afghanistan without declaring war (a blatant disregard for the Constitution). Many diggers don't realize this but Clinton made regime change in Iraq an official policy of the United States by signing it into LAW. His actions laid down some of the ground work for Dictator Bush!
          • aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0If Bush is a dictator, as you state, why do you think he would ever allow Congress to put him on trial. You see, if what you rant about is true, you have already lost. What will you do now? One solution, if you are interested, is Olanzapine .
      • topapito, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. Wow, this is all the republicans had on him. Bush is lucky congress has no spine. But this is not about republicans nor democrats as far as I can tell. This is about your country going down the tubes, who gives a ***** who is more holier than thou?
        A no fly list.
        Diluted personal rights
        DEAD soldiers
        Dead Iraqis for those who give a *****
        Non-existent dollar
        And you can find time to argue about the particulars of why Clinton got impeached? Are you serious? I could probably have you foaming at the mouth if I gave a ***** about the differences between democrats and republicans, which I don't. But when the Canadian dollar is worth more than the US dollar, which usually nearly doubles the value of the Canadian dollar, you've got problems my friend. And your problems have nothing to do with your president's political party, and everything to do with leading you down the wrong path.
        You should be looking for a president who can pronounce nuclear.
        • aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Yep, thing are pretty bad topapito. But...on the other hand, my portfolio has increased $150,000 in the past year. Portfolio...you know what that is, don't you? Yaaaa, life is good.
    • thekinneret, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0First, respond to my argument. Clinton's impeachment has NOTHING to do with Bush. Like Bush, Clinton did nothing which warranted impeachment. My words were simple: Bush has done nothing that warrants impeachment. I never said he couldn't be impeached.

      And Dumbledorito, you're wrong. The recent Executive order doesn't say you can't speak freely against Iraq war. Go get a law degree and learn to read Executive orders instead of letting uneducated internet trollers digg them for you.
      • twinklyJesus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sorry, perjury IS grounds for impeachment.
        • iluvgossip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0That is debatable at best. Then again he was trying to deny the woman he wronged justice, perjured himself, solicited perjury, set private dicks on people to intimidate them, etc etc etc. It was just a whole ugly affair. The lesson is don't go around dropping your pants asking employees to "kiss it."
  • lostdiggacct, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36We need impeachment & everybody knows this, nobody supports Bush except for those on his payroll. Instead of articles saying we need to do this, what about ones that tell the average idiot (i.e. those who voted for him originally) on HOW to impeach him.
    • DLFul0531, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2A lot of us support a part of what he does. He has done a fine job of protecting the country. When you see what "they" have planned for us and that begins to materialize, you may that George W. was in charge again. We have others running for office who would declare a victory and hail global progress as they hand over the keys to the White House. As Bush enters the final months of his second term, we have not had another 9/11.
    • KevenM, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0A sensible idea. If you find one, let me know and I'd definitely digg that up
    • Kugo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7'He has done a fine job of protecting the country.' He has? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read at digg.
      • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5osama runs from afghanistan to pakistan - we invade iraq, not an osama to be found.

        meanwhile the US's borders are still being overrun.

        ridiculous is right!
        • iluvgossip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Right, the whole 'safe harbor' thing for illegal immigrants is a major reason why even conservatives have dropped their support for Bush. If we can't support our borders we are hastening the day when we get hit with some kind of WMD. It is inevitable but I'd rather see it pushed back as long as possible.
        • aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Osama runs from Afghanistan, Obama attacks Pakistan, Hillary comes out of the closet, Dingy Harry goes on Olanzapine, Pelosi found drunk at her vineyards etc.
          • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1is this rhetoric intended to be helpful or circumventing? i don't understand. how's the wife?
  • jokyfo, on 10/11/2007, -29/+3Isn't it funny how Leftists kooks are theones who assasinate presidents?

    Hey Leftists! You are traitors to mankind, freedom and America. You deserve to be arrested tried and punished for treason.
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14I hear the army didn't meet its recruitment quotas, please join up and fight for our freedom in IRAQ.
      If you're already signed up, please ask for a transfer to the nearest war. You have two to choose from, and you'll probably have a third soon.
      • aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0No thanks, Lyndon, the Democrat already gave me mine.
    • kufu91, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8leftists kooks are "theones" assassinate presidents?
      what are you even talking about?
      • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Translated, I think that "theones" is actually two words: "the ones". I personally don't know anyone who has ever assassinated anyone. Do you kufu91?
  • WaltDismal, on 10/11/2007, -6/+31I will take great pleasure in laughing my ass off when every rightwinger here who says there's no need to impeach, has all his guns confiscated and is drafted to fight Iran, after a dictatorship is imposed here. Oh, it won't be called a dictatorship by the administration. But you will have no more rights. And your being drafted will be 'for the sake of the nation'. Or as we know it, for the oil industry.
    • clark24, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5I wonder what percentage of young people (i.e. draft candidates) are actually right-wingers. It has to be pretty low with the jackassery we've had going on in the White House for the past 7 years.
    • joejordan, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2dugg for the sheer ridiculousness of your comment. Get serious.
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Walt, don't you have to get back to Democratic Underground?
    • stark23x, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Will you laugh at yourself and admit you were wrong if it never happens?
      • WaltDismal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Actually I would rather look stupid, and admit I was wrong, than to suddenly be caught in a dictatorship and know I'd been right in my estimate and know I hadn't done enough to prevent it. I truly believe in America, but this America has been kidnapped by sociopaths.
    • iluvgossip, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0It is simple, just scream holy hell when they try to pass laws to confiscate weapons and if they do pass such a law simply refuse to cooperate. "I sold it last year officer."
      • WaltDismal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And what are you doing to do when Bush issues Executive Order 1400 saying "For American safety, we must confiscate all weapons to prevent American anti-war insurgents and draft resisters from causing terror in the US! Anyone opposing this will be considered a terrorist and we will be forced to imprison them." Given all the power-grabbing EOs he's issued recently, what makes you think this can never happen?
  • schoate09, on 10/11/2007, -20/+2Not the same ***** dupe on the front page again. What the ***** is wrong with this site?
  • sand3, on 10/11/2007, -12/+3Why you have a right to buy guns? All you need is a scope and a rifle - no need to impeachment. The government should fear the ones it tries to screw over - not the other way around...
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I really hope you do some preparing.

      P.S. if you hear helicopters over your house tonight, you better ***** run.
    • aadyss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0A scope? What a pussy.
  • Yage2006, on 10/11/2007, -3/+41You Americans need to do something while you still can.
    Maybe a big demonstration in front of the whitehouse with a few million people,
    Maybe stop paying your taxes .
    But do something anything and so it soon .
    • jazzjeff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Totally agree. America might support their constitution but they are doing bugger all to protest and get up off their arses to show their disagreement about the series of laws being brought in to curtails their rights.

      Honestly, the sleeping giant is about to awake and surprise them by biting them in the ass.
      All Bush and co are waiting for is a good excuse to inact emergency laws - then see where your constitution will get you?
  • topapito, on 10/11/2007, -6/+46Clinton lied about getting a blow job. Bush lies about everything else. We must not forget that while Clinton was getting blow jobs, the US dollar was strong, AND there was a surplus of money in the US coffers. Bush is leaving behind a legacy of thousands of dead soldiers because of WMD's he said were there, but still can't find.
    If you idiots would quit talking about Clinton and heeding the signs that keep banging your forehead, you may be in time to save the US from certain collapse. I joyfully live in Canada but will suffer for you when and if it ever comes. I pray to any God it doesn't. But from reading the ranting between Democrats and Republicans and the Liberals and Conservatives, you guys will continue to argue and bicker as the US slowly sinks. Rats in a sinking vessel is what you are if you can't stop the bickering and unite to save your country.
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2The US won't suffer a sudden collapse. The American economy is stronger now than it has ever been (and that includes the 1990s). Please save us from all this prosperity!
      • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7well that explains the grand slump in the housing market that even has bernanke and greenspan worried. for the first time in american history owning a home is not the sure-fire way to build wealth. as a matter of fact, right now a consensus of economists agree that it is wiser to rent than to buy.

        it really angers me that you would spread such reckless disinformation.
        • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I don't feel like typing out a long response so I'll just say this. You're wrong. Housing is not a way to build wealth, it is a liability, and people like you who thought that housing was a sure fire way to build wealth are (along with extremely low interest rates set to avoid a recession and exotic lending practices) why we're seeing this bubble pop. The economy is still chugging, the standard of living is still sky high, unemployment is still low. There is no reason to believe that the sky is falling.
          • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1you've just demonstrated to everyone here you do not know jack ***** of which you speak. real estate has always been a prime way to build wealth - until now.
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2http://www.thornburginvestments.com/research/articles/real_real_0705.asp

            http://www.thornburginvestments.com/email/universe_emails/images/realreal05/20yearaverage.gif

            Go and google it for yourself for more solid figures.
          • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2the average person does not buy stocks, bonds, t bills. the average american builds wealth through home ownership. until now.
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well that's partially true. The average person did not build wealth until not very long ago. Even during the middle of the 20th century, the middle class relied on entitlements like pensions and social security.

            Today, the average person does build wealth through the market.

            One of the great freedoms we have is the right to own property, but property really isn't all that safe of an investment. Throw in a mortgage and a house to maintain, and it's not really much of an investment.
          • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2my twelve years experience in corporate america, conversing with associates, i'd guesstimate that 80% of full-time employees who were married had a mortgage, and many considered this the greatest investment of their lives. great things could be done with the equity, and it would help assure a comfortable retirement. i would hazard that one person in fourteen actively or even occasionally traded. no numbers to back this up, it's my guess from my life experience - but then perhaps it's a matter of class and who has the money to throw at wallstreet.

            many who believe they are upperclass are actually engineering their lifestyle from loans, many times the collateral being the equity in their home. perhaps it was unwise. these are uncertain times.

            and borrowed money does not prosperity make. anyway, dugg you for the refreshingly civil conversation 8)
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2We can agree that when you are paying the same amount for a mortgage as you are for rent that owning is a better "investment". When you start to think of housing as an investment you might go above your means, using the "investment" logic as an excuse.

            Renting gives you the flexibility to move when you choose to. If you buy a house at the peak of the market and have to sell it a a year or two down the road, when the market isn't too hot, so that you can move elsewhere for employment you'll run into problems. People may be nervous about jumping into the market, for one, and whatever price you do get is less than what your mortgage was for. Since you've had your mortgage for only a few years at most, it's mostly not paid off. In that case you lose money.

            Right now, rental housing costs less than a mortgage is many if not most markets. Factor in all that maintenance and yard work you don't have to do and renting is a real bargain. If you have the discipline to live below your means and save what you can, you'll come out ahead of the homeowner.

            And people have been investing in the stock market passively en masse since the 1980s, with their IRAs and 401(k)s. If you know absolutely nothing about investing, I've seen at my company that they bring in financial advisors who'll talk about your 401(k) options and anything else you'd like to talk about during each open enrollment period. The best investment for such novices would be, in my book, to put the biggest chunk (at least half) of their tax deferred 401(k) contributions into a S&P index fund.

            Maybe we come from different Americas, over here the largest employers give most of the same benefits to the lowly janitor that the give to the CEO. Health benefits, a so called pension (30 cents per hour worked put into a company run account) and 401(k), discounts on local services, education reimbursement, free lunch, etc.

            We might have to just agree to disagree..
          • knomevol, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1fair enough.
      • WaltDismal, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@jcm. Congratulations! You've just been outsourced. (giggling like a schoolgirl)
      • phaed, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3If I were to borrow a million dollars a year I would also be prospering. But one day the bill will come due.
        • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Our national debt is less than it was in the 1950s. There are several first world countries with more debt than the USA. I'm not saying that I'm an economist or anything, but I know enough to know that you know absolutely nothing about economics.
        • kingsaliva, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Please tell me what country has more than 8.8 trillion in debt....We are paying 400 billion a year in interest alone...
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I'm talking in terms of % of GDP. We are simply the largest country.
      • orangedog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4" The American economy is stronger now than it has ever been "

        Yes, we have the strongest house of cards on the planet...so much so that we don't need the manufacturing base that allowed the US to win World War 2 and the cold war. The absolute best way to be the world's sole super-power is to have an economy based on wedding planners, mortgage brokers and lawyers....you ***** idiot.
    • Nutmegan, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2Clinton? You mean the president who said there were WMD in Iraq before Bush, right?
      • topapito, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5And this justifies Bush how? I was not sticking up for Clinton as much as I was attempting to show the futility of your argument. You can argue about who said what and which party or president did what, and give up all your rights while you argue with me about something or other, whatever it may be. Your president is not my president, hel, your country is not my country, but I would certainly and truly hate to see more loss of lives and personal freedom in your country.
        • Nutmegan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The futility of my argument? I didn't make one. I just poked a giant gaping hole in your argument, which was to show that President Bush did something much worse than President Clinton by "lying" about WMD. Both presidents, most of Congress and most of the intelligence community were also behind the WMD claims.
    • HolisticIsland, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4The "great economy" under the Clinton administration was built on a stock bubble and financial lies. Remember Pets.com? Enron? Worldcom? Arthur Anderson? Is that the kind of economy you want to bring back?
      • AaronMan24, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You saying we have to settle for one or the other. Man we are *****.
  • Nutmegan, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1I'm going to bury this as inaccurate because it calls Paul Craig Roberts a Republican. How misleading is that?
    • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Roberts WAS a Republican. By now, he may have switched parties. I certainly did, but I'm mad at the Democrats now, too.
  • bioncinola, on 10/11/2007, -13/+5THE NEOCONS HAVE SET IT UP TO HAVE THE DICTATORIAL POWERS IN PLACE. NOW THEY WILL GO TO "PLAN B" - THEY WILL ENGINEER A NEW 911!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WILL ACTIVATE THEIR DICTATORIAL POWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE END IS NIGH THE END IS NIGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YOU FOOLS !!! I WARNED YOU!!! NOW ONLY THE TEMPORAL LEGIONS CAN SAVE US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE TO RETURN TO THE FUTURE BUT I WILL BE BAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Start stocking up on guns, ammo, kevlar, and explosives.

      I'm warning you now! If your delusions come to fruition it will be the "gun nuts" who save us all!
  • bushisterrorist, on 10/11/2007, -8/+17Bush & Cheney are terrorists, war criminals, and horrific liars.

    9-11 was an inside job!

    Depleted uraniuim is a weapon of mass destruction!
    • sunshinemonster, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5O RLY?
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I'll say what I said the last time I saw you post this exact same stupid nonsense.
      /sarcasm?
      • bushisterrorist, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2How did building 7 fall?

        Who put the explosives in the buildings 1,2, and 7? Why the large molten pools of metal under 1,2, and 7? Did you know Marvin Bush was head of security? Did you know there was a 30 hour power down the weekend before 9-11? You are a gullible fool!
        • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4"You are a gullible fool!"
          - No, you are.
  • SD929, on 10/11/2007, -23/+4***** inaccurate...as always... you libtards have noooooo lifeee....
    • Mar1in, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8So set the record straight instead of using profanity and name calling.
      • hiphoc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Here is how it works. Name calling, or bring up Clinton. Talk about distractions and not addressing an issue. This ***** is frightening.
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The author is a republican isn't he?
  • jasmin888, on 10/11/2007, -6/+33A lot of you here seems to miss the real point. You are still in a state of denial. Just like the people of Germany in 1930-33 didn't realize what was coming.
    This is REAL!
    The real questions are:
    How are we going to deal with it?
    how are we going to prepare?
    How can we best protect seeds of democracy during the bad times ahead?
    And how can anyone who the government perceive as opposed to their doings protect themselves?
    IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASY, AND IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
    There is likely no way this will be avoided. Congress doesn't have the spine. Any serious opposition will be killed off in a very unpleasant way.
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2stock up on guns if you're so scared
      • blackcloud333, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Laughing Out Loud, that's good. Buy guns to save ourselves. You are hilarious. Wait.. you were serious?
        • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Are you kidding me? I'm no conspiracy theorist, and I think these people are retards, but the reason we have the 2nd amendment is so that we could fight a guerilla war against our own government if we have to.
  • bioncinola, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22** edited by the FBI -- serial no. 827742XX -- dissenters will be eliminated. Be warned. **
  • ploximeth, on 10/11/2007, -8/+0Who's Bush?
  • Kugo, on 10/11/2007, -5/+18jasmin888 has the clue. This is the same thing as Little Adolf and Joe Goebbels. All over again. The US rise after the defeat of the Axis powers as the new fascists imperialists. The Germans never voted for Hitler - his popularity was at best around 30% in popular votes. The rest was conniving. Just like today. There was no good reason for the Nazis to do as they did - no "rational" reason. But they were nutters so you can't look at it that way.

    There's one difference between Nazi Germany and Bushie US: Hitler may have been mad but he was the one calling the shots. In the US it's the neocons calling the shots and dangling Bushie on strings. But it doesn't matter.

    And finally: it matters little how well things turn out in the end (by the end of 2008 and a well auguring change in power in Washington) for the threat of fascist takeover in the US will loom precariously for generations to come.
    • hiphoc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Right, Bush is the front man to take the fall. But the beurocracy of fascism is still there. The whole government needs to be reworked. The men of power will still be head of the companies. After WWII we should have put in jail all the CEO's who helped Hitler from the US. Then we might have had a chance. Ford, Watson from IBM all those guys should have gone to jail for war profiteering.

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=7PUmMC5P8IE
  • david76, on 10/11/2007, -18/+6Tin Foil hats. On sale now at Walmart!
    (BTW, I'm all for impeachment. But I don't think this sort of panicking is warranted.
    • blackcloud333, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I really don't think this is panicking, just a natural response to the some extremely ***** up *****.
  • humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -6/+21Ron Paul can save us. Barack Obama can maybe save us. Those other probably not so much.
    • Darel99, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Barack Obama is a member of the CFR he is just another leader for global views... Ron Paul yes seems like a great alternative to the MS options.
    • jasmin888, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Ron Paul is NOT, I repeat NOT going to save anybody. If he comes even close he will not be able to save himself. The only possibility is that congress IMMEDIATELY meet the president with force. They are not going to and that's that. You better start thinking how to protect yourself and the ones you love.
      Europe may hold some hope, and the democracies in South America, but I wouldn't expect too much.
      The states may also have some potential but the National Garde has been systematically starved of manpower and equipment as if the plan were to undermine the potential power of the states.
    • tony4moroney, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Any democratic nominee will save us. theyre all against everything the Neocons stand for bar the patriot act (which they most likely supported otherwise theyd be branded traitors).

      Another GOP Presidency and we're SCREWED. ITS OVER. GOODBYE DEMOCRACY.
  • ccamen, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1Cut his tongue out. Gosh...idiots!
  • brandmanjr, on 10/11/2007, -2/+46Bush lied. My brother died.
    • Darel99, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9With respect I'm so sorry. I'm worried because my brother may have to go any day now.
    • DaddysDarlin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I hate this whole Fu**ing war. I feel for you and am so saddened by your loss. I am ashamed that this Administration has caused you so much pain. I will pray for you that you might find peace, in your heart and in the world sometime soon. God Bless You and Yours.
  • ereinei, on 10/11/2007, -12/+3The author gave himself away as a moveon.org type by using the phrase neocon nazi. The moment someone says that you know where they are coming from. This is the biggest bunch of crap ever. And please, do go ahead and impeach. We are down to the last 18 months of Bush's presidency. Clinton's impeachment proceeding from drawing up the articles to final vote in the Senate took just shy of 6 months. The debate to draw up articles of impeachment took onwards of 3 months. So if we follow that it will take 9 months. The House can impeach all they want; the Senate will never convict. So in the final 9 months after the fiasco (and the Democrat leadership knows this, which is why it will never happen) the Republicans will use that (just as the Democrats did) and positively beat the utter snot out of all those responsible, thus winning back both houses of Congress and probably costing the Democrats any chance of winning the White House for the next 8 years. So, go ahead, please exercise your little fit of revenge and impeach. That's what all this is about - revenge for the Clinton impeachment. Meanwhile, the real adults are fighting an open war in two countries and special ops in who knows how many countries. Do we really have time for this ape nonsense? You people who follow this whole "nazi, impeach" anger thing are off your rocker.
    • blackcloud333, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I really don't think this is a revenge for the Clinton impeachment. I know I don't feel that way. It's about a lying, corrupt administration making all the wrong decisions.
    • opiophile, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Ereinei, have you considered seeing a doctor? You came up with this huge conspiracy theory about how 'moveon.org types' use phrases like 'neocon nazi'. Your head is in the sand, and your schizophrenic... not a good thing. The drugs they have these days really help people like you. I'm serious. I want you to get better, and I know deep down inside you too want to get better.
    • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3moveon.org type? he was assistant secretary of treasury during reagan's tenure. what type does that make him?
      • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The Republican response to any criticism is to PROJECT THEIR OWN EVIL onto others. Neil Boortz, right-wing radio talk show hosts, forbids any of his callers from using the term "neo-con". Then he rants on about moveon.org and media matters. See, it's important that "the base" (al Quada) be properly indoctrinated in doublespeak.
  • edebolt, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2Roberts would have been saying this same thing when Bush was elected. It's not news.. Just diggers and others are using to validate their agenda.
    • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3i wonder what nutty things he was saying when he was assistant secretary of the treasury under reagan's administration.
  • Darel99, on 10/11/2007, -2/+32As a voting republican I have issued this concern six months ago. All the police state powers are in place... I have even hired a lawyer to improve my understanding of recent presidential directives which Bush has recently issued....

    We must not allow history to repeat itself. We must take action and it must be soon.

    For God sakes people both Bush and Cheney lied to use about the war on terror. Here is a quick way to consider reality. Visit the FBI website and review Ben Ladin's most wanted page ask yourself what is missing?

    Bush sold the war based on terror threats and we supported the points. Three years ago Bush stated on national TV that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 yet he stated they were linked to 9-11.

    It's time to forget party issues and do what is right and support the democrats bill to impeach not only cheney but also Bush. It must be done. Haven't you heard bush has stated he has no care for the law of the land? What else do you need to understand the threat is real?

    Will you take action?

    Will you reply to my comments and claim I'm nuts?

    Or will you set on your ass and do nothing?

    You choose! But I don't care what anyone suggests I'm only going to focus on those who want to take action and see this to the end and remove both.

    How in the heck can you have faith in a VP who only has a 12% rating? What a F- the grade is. Do you want a F- to help run the country? Or are you happy with a 24% running the office? Who still gets an f-.?
    • worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Well said. It amazes me that more people can't see the writing on the wall.
    • blackcloud333, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2I think you mean "War of Terror".
    • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I am an EX-Republican, and I cannot believe the mess we're in. Impeachment of both Bush and Cheney is a DUTY of ANY person who has sworn to protect and defend the Constitution. Failure to do so is a dereliction of that duty. Placing Partisan loyalty ahead of that duty is treasonous.
  • Mosatii, on 10/11/2007, -12/+4Paul Roberts is crazy. His opinion isn't worth *****.
    • knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2reagan didn't think so. i think you've just alienated yourself from people you were expecting high-fives from.
    • Mosatii, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Obviously you don't know anything about Roberts.
    • theeEqualizer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Hey, isn't that what Republicans said about John Murtha when he had the balls to stand up and object? And isn't that what they said about retiring generals who called for Rumsfeld's resignation? Come to think of it, isn't that what Repubs do to ANYONE who voices criticism of their flawed reasoning and transparent crooked agendas? Smear campaigns used to work great for you. But now you're starting to look like that really bitchy friend who turns on everyone you know until there's no one left to smear, and then it becomes apparent that THEY were the sick crazy one. C'mon Mosatii... You don't want to hang out with that ill codependent party. Bail while you still can.
    • Uberdork, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He's a Republican. It's often difficult to separate the two.
    • Mosatii, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's too bad I'm not a Republican.
  • HaxorTheWorld, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3Politics is the cancer that is killing digg, the only thing stuff like this does is piss people off and start arguments. We state that we support something, yet none of us do anything. If anything removing this section would be for the better.
    • worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Yeah let's bury our head in the sand and talk about Paris Hilton and iPhones. Wake up. Besides, who forced you to enter this thread?
      • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1I wish you people would just stay on infowars
        • theeEqualizer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm sure you do. But this is truly the ONLY thing worth talking about right now. That's why infowars calls itself "infowars". It occurs to me that you just don't like the presence of an opposing point of view. Sorry, kid. You're not always right. And you're not as bright as you thought you were.
          • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1No. I'm a conservative and can tolerate liberals because while they disagree with me almost all of the time they can be intelligent. The only smart people on infowars are the morally bankrupt people making money from it.
    • theeEqualizer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Maybe you don't do anything, Haxor. Speak for yourself. If you haven't noticed, in the last 20 years the right wing successfully waged a battle for the backing of the centerist voting public. How did they do it? Talking. Talking points. Talk radio. Fox news. Propaganda. Lies. How do you combat all that noise? Talk. Provide the truth. Discourse is essential in a Democracy. Even if it sounds like a bunch of arguing and conflict to your young ears. You could always just stay in the shallow end of the pool and talk about gaming, you know. But people who care are fighting for your right to play WoW whenever you want. Sorry Digg got all relevant and topical on you. Oh Noes! Suxor!
    • obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You're more worried about Digg dying than your country dying?
  • willgill, on 10/11/2007, -14/+11Man Digg gets crazier and crazier. It's just a matter of time until we see "Bush promotes himself to GOD!!!! Guns down all liberals with black helicopters!!!"
    • kingsaliva, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Homeland security is actually using white helicopters now. One was hovering over the recent gathering at Ed Browns home.. the tail numbers were registered to homeland.
  • AaronMan24, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Man, it's great how ***** quickly everyone categorizes it into whether it is a ***** liberal or conservative notion. Pull your ***** head out of your ass. It's not about left wing or right wing, it's about upholding the constitution of the United States (which by the way is being pissed on), it's not what ***** political party you support. ("Well jeez! I don't know if I support it or not. Is it liberal, or is it conservative?" "I'm a ***** moron who can't think for myself.") And yes, I'd be saying the same ***** if Clinton happened to be in office violating my rights as a citizen of the United States. *****, maybe we deserve the ***** that is coming to us. Welcome to history repeating itself, buckle up.

  • DeFex, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3this was shocking the first 6 times it was on here.
    • theeEqualizer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5It bears repeating. Its only our goddamn quality of life and our children's future. Sorry if its not "new" enough for you. Do you have any idea what its like to live in a police state??? It's worth avoiding, son. Trust me.
  • jasmin888, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14I would like to add that holocaust and the management of the KZ-kamps were carried out by a small dedicated unit of less than 400 people.
    They were initially formed as a social emergency unit 'taking care' of so-called 'retarded' children (could mean anything socially, politically or economically undesirable). The unit was dismantled as it became increasingly problematic that these children disappeared instead of being taken care of (there were all kinds of bogus death certificates, the press eventually got too interested and they had to end that praxis).
    These people were regrouped when the 'jew-problem' became an important issue for the Wehrmacht exactly because of their experience with disappearances.
    Right now special units are formed and trained in Iraq and other places. Some of these units are likely private contractors with close connection to us military others are loyal 'very special' units.
    Think about this:
    The present administration has during the last several years snooped extensively on the _American_ population. Why??? Because they need to know exactly who they need to take out first.
    This ongoing coup has been prepared since before Reagan.First test was the dealings with Iran before the election of Reagan (remember the failed rescue attempt by Carter and the quick release after Reagan got elected?). Then we had the Iran-Contra gate. Then Bush senior ended as a big disappointment. This coup has been many years in the making, it's well prepared and planned for.
  • turbomofo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17no matter how many times this story gets submitted i will still digg it...its that important. send this to everyone you know.
  • Mar1in, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9There is something you can do to help impeach Cheney, There is a petition you can sign that will be delivered to your congressional representative:
    http://impeachcheney.org
  • stark23x, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2Will this kook, and the kook diggers trumpeting this nonsense, offer up mea culpas when the next president is legally elected and this dictatorship never happens?

    Somehow I doubt it.
    • sabach, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1But you see "never" is a really long time period and big gov't is not going away. It's the frog in hot water principal, if they turn up the "heat" gradually you'll be "cooked" before you realize something's wrong.
    • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Nope. Because the PRECEDENTS are being set NOW for dictatorship. Total dictatorship.
  • xSEED, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2way overdue
  • Grego123, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11You people just don't get it, seriously this is way past left vs right, lib vs con, dem vs rep. WAKE UP!!!!!
  • mpn401, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Left says "Believe us or you are doomed!!"
    Right says "Believe us or you are doomed!!"
    In these times, I honestly don't know who to believe anymore.
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Actually in this case the Right is saying, there's nothing to see here move along...
    • bioncinola, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2mpn401 you are a very stupid person

      you should not be asking "who do I believe?" you need to tbe lieve in yourself and make the decision. don't sit on the fence because that is how ww1 and ww2 came about.

      make the decision make it early and help people see whatever reality is coming.
      • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Very well said. I think this is indicative of one of the biggest problems we face today. A complete lack of one's own critical analysis. The people depend on everything fed to them like a paralyzed person being tube fed. Start by building your own ideas based on facts.
  • nvisi0n, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Of all the ***** going awry in this administration, I don't see a war with Iran as a probability. The Generals would not do it. Many top Generals have already said they would not follow orders into Iran. You will see an M1A1 rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue in a coup, far before you'll see one rolling down the streets of Iran
    • gernblansted, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Those Generals will disappear. New Generals will appear. Problem solved. Unfortunately.
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I hope that's true. We had some generals opposing the Iraq war but they don't seem to be there anymore.
    • WaltDismal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4If this administration has a criminal foreign ally who is allowed to mount a false-flag terror event in the US (giving Bush/Cheney plausible denial) and blames it on Iran, the generals cannot refuse to defend the US against a 'known' attacker. Of course the data will be cooked to support war. The CIA is loaded with ***** now, the genuine patriots have been housecleaned out. And the Bush administration has been working for some time now to houseclean officers out of the military who disagree with Bush. The Air Force Academy has been staffed with Christian rightwingers. And so on.

      So who has a very long history of false-flag actions? Mossad... Look it up. Their motto: "By deception shall you act."
  • mousebite, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3LOL! Hippies had more balls back in the 60's than any of you "kids' today. Most of the libs today are worse than Congress!
  • Violent, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Seriously, how dumb has media made you if you still believe that there is any difference more significant than color scheme between Red and Blue after the sweeping 2006 elections? The people spoke and nothing happened - our system is broken - voting and bleating spoon fed opinions only make our political discourse less and less respectable. Challenge your beliefs and spend the time to question the talking heads.
  • Travisx2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2From the "Story of B"
    These times ARE those times.
  • mongocrush, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Well if Congress doesn't impeach him then we always have the 2nd Amendment to fall back on. The reason it's in the Constitution is if the Government tries to take over the country, we can always take our country back in a civil war.
  • r2rma, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2I am really tired of people posting these links to stories that are not reasonable. Take a minute, put your hatred of George Bust aside , and stop to think about what you're saying. Could Bush be doing these things to help protect me and protect you? He has been blamed for 9/11, not doing enough, how do you stop a crime before it happens? How do you find out about it? Could his actions be explained and considered reasonable in context? How many Americans can you list that have been abused by this dictator's power? If you ask me, a recent Supreme Court ruling, that allows the government to take property for the use of business, is more dangerous!

    Lastly, take a look at the man and his life. I live in Austin, and had a chance some time ago to hear from a man who dealt with George Bush in the oil business years ago. The man described how the company he owned was in trouble because of debt he owed to Bush. He told us how Bush could have taken everything he owned to satisfy the debt. Instead, the man described how Bush worked out a reasonable payment plan to cover the debt, and let the man keep his company. Not exactly what you would expect from someone set to take over the country or the world! He ran Texas working with Democrats, he didn't amass power and run them over, he might not have been able to, but he didn't even try. He called the Texas Democrats his friends, and they said the same thing about him. It's disappointing and hard to have to endure all you little people trying to make a good man out to be something he's not, but even more, because it’s exactly what your character has actually been demonstrated to be. Don't attribute motives to Bush that are what you would do with his power. Such small and petty people!
    • gernblansted, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Bush was going to be the privacy president. He is not the man he was. Just because he helped someone you know a few years ago doesn't mean he's here to help now. Thinking like that is, well, somewhat petty of you. There is a real world out there, and in that world people change when they are given power (No, being a Governor is NOT like being the most powerful President in recent times). I've seen first hand the psychological changes that occur when high power is given to people, and it wasn't pretty. People who believe God talks to them personally and tells them what to do are mentally unstable. George Bush started to believe this soon after taking office (at least after 9-11).


      So, talk about the old days all you want. That was then.


      "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln
      • r2rma, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0You make a pertinent point and it’s reasonable in basis, but fails in practice because of evidence to the contrary. I was making the point that his life has not demonstrated the type of character evident in someone wanting to take over the world. I suggest we reserve this dictator designation for the real thing, unless we become blind to it when it really appears. As for his alleged recent power and character transformation into tyranny, there is no real evidence. The executive orders and laws are reasonable in the context of the threat we face. President Bush can’t even bring himself to attack his critics, he can’t even send his surrogates out to do it for him. Recent dictators in modern history have been happy to use meat hooks, plastic shredders, acid, gasoline filled tires, and liquid metal to deal with their critics. Please, examine the character of a man’s life, and stop to bring things into proportion.
        • milliebubba, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1r2rma: With all due respect, you are already completely blinded. The record is there is the EOs, in the signing statements, in the contempt for Congress, in the blatant and transparent fraud perpetrated in the run-up to the Iraq War, the massively broad grasping for power through claims of Executive Privilege and constant reference to the Unitary Executive. Bush and the entire media attack his critics every day...that they are not yet mutilating them is a matter of degree. There doesn't seem to be much character there....particularly when you put things into proportion.
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3How do you stop a crime before it happens? Funny I thought the neocons keep claiming how there hasn't been any more terrorist attacks since 9/11. Apparently they do feel they can prevent future crimes.

      Isn't it equally plausible that Bush doesn't care about you and just wants to rule the land?

      "If you ask me, a recent Supreme Court ruling, that allows the government to take property for the use of business, is more dangerous! "

      I agree and that's just one of many. You should read the Military Commissions Act too. That is precisely the kind of things we are getting mad about. You should too.
      • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"How do you stop a crime before it happens? "
        Ever see the movie Minority Report?
        • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes but I was merely quoting the original poster. Are you suggesting we have this technology that was shown in Minority Report?
    • obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Bush's entire Governorship was a campaign for the presidency.
  • fritson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2WARNING TO ALL AMERICANS!

    This is a frantic, last minute, and courageous WARNING from a Republican official to all Americans.

    America is only One (Staged) Disaster away from a dictatorship by W and friends!

    According to the current law, W can claim any (staged) disaster as a national emergency and order Martial Law throughout the HOMELAND. HOMELAND a German concept first used by Hitler.

    W now has the legal right to take over all the 3 branches of the government forever.

    PC Roberts is a very smart man and he is telling us the truth, if you follow his logic, you will come up with the same conclusions.

    It looks like the program to Nazify US may happen very soon, possibly within the next 6 months or so, for sure before W’s term is over!
    Another 9/11-like, an inside-job-disaster is being staged again, right now, and they are only waiting for the right moment to execute the W’s One Man Rule agenda.

    Republicans.... please, .......please,
    this is not a joke,
    this is for real,
    this is not a paranoia,
    this is all about to happen.

    W doesn’t want to go to jail, so he must take over the country before his term is over!

    To those Republicans, and to all those other people who are in a denial-state about W’s absolute desire to hold on to the total power and become a dictator, listen up carefully:

    Please, you are committing suicide by helping W take over America as a dictator.

    All the (MSM) media is in cahoots with W and his friends.

    The Media is totally controlled by W and his friends. The Media has been ordered to keep the people distracted with Paris Hilton type phony-news so people won’t notice and won’t realize that a horrendous inside-job-terror-scheme is about to happen.

    And after that inside job, we will be told to comply with a W ordered marshal law and forego all our basic rights,....or else you will be arrested and sent immediately to a FEMA-Concentration-Camp near you!

    This is absolutely a very serious wake up call for all Americans!
    Please......everybody wake up immediately, take any action you can and send this article and this Warning to others too!
    • topapito, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ok dude, this is spooky, YOU are spooky. I fail to see how W is planning to become a dictator to prevent going to jail. Talk like this makes the whole thing lok like a George Orwell radio show. STOP IT!
      The US government would never have dictatorship, at least not like we have been used to. You don't want to make those who are warning about future problems look spooky do ya?
      • fritson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1To topapito:

        You don't know this: W's Executive Order issued recently: If W calls any event as being a national disaster, any disaster as defined by W in anyway he feels like it, then W will immediately become the ONLY authority in the country to take any action he desires! All other branches of the government are totally powerless per W's Order!
        What do you think now ....dude topapito?
    • jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1And if nothing happens between now and inaguration day, will you renounce your beliefs in this stuff?
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