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Ex-CIA op Bob Baer on how Cheney and Bush got their war.
youtube.com — MSNBC Hardball Former CIA operative Bob Baer tells how Bush's War got started
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- coopmax, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9when the right winger chris mathews turns on dick cheney, the jig is up. Look for cheney to resign soon for medical reasons and one of the white house hopefuls to be appointed: maybe mccain.
- readthis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2This has been an outstanding week. People in high places are coming forth with pieces of the puzzle:
The Plan to attack 7nations in 5 years -- according to U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE
http://www.digg.com/world_news/Bush_Hitlist_Iraq_Syria_Lebanon_Libya_Somalia_Sudan_Iran
Olbermann guest: Suspending habeas corpus has made us less safe
http://www.digg.com/political_opinion/Olbermann_guest_Suspending_habeas_corpus_has_made_us_less_safe
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Olbermann_hopeful_on_restoration_of_Habeas_0608.html
Powell: Close Guantanamo Now, Restore Habeas
http://www.digg.com/politics/Video_Colin_Powell_Close_Guantanamo_Now_Restore_Habeas
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/10/powell-gitmo/
Geronimo's family call on Bush to help return his skeleton
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article622744.ece - manchu2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Chris Matthews a right winger? Are you high?
- readthis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2This has been an outstanding week. People in high places are coming forth with pieces of the puzzle:
- everamzah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7i like this video. when all the news outlets die, because people realize that they're not news in a true sense (and will then maybe be called something else), i think at least one of them may change course and pick up where they left off all those years ago and start representing the people again. start being the people's voice again. media is an important part of democracy, but it's so broken right now that it'll fold in on itself.
- Clogs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Chris Matthews: “fighting an aggressive war is a war crime”
This is serious stuff.- manchu2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Never once in this whole interview did Matthews or Baer mention that Iraq signed a cease fire with the US in 1991 that obligated it to do certain things which it DIDN'T. Aggressive war? The next time we go to war and DON'T give our opponent the option to ask for a cease fire based on how badly the cease fire with Iraq went...that'll be a hell of an aggressive war.
- laserjobs, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4How can anyone not be MAD AS HELL after watching this?
- manchu2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Hey, I like Bob Baer and I enjoyed his books, but this guy left the CIA 10 years ago. I'm sure he's got good contacts there still, but this guy hasn't been working the middle east as a CIA operative since just after the beginning of Clinton's second term. Consider that as you evaluate what he said.
Also not mentioned in this little clip were the half dozen answers to why we were launching Operation Iraqi Freedom. Truthfully, a Sadaam/AQ connection wasn't even on the list. Keep some perspective.
- manchu2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Hey, I like Bob Baer and I enjoyed his books, but this guy left the CIA 10 years ago. I'm sure he's got good contacts there still, but this guy hasn't been working the middle east as a CIA operative since just after the beginning of Clinton's second term. Consider that as you evaluate what he said.
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