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- MakiMaki, on 08/11/2008, -3/+23Direct link to the story, bypassing huffpo: http://www.washingtonindependent.com/view/eisenhow ...
- poprocksandsoda, on 08/11/2008, -4/+20After reading this I am now wondering how Abraham Lincoln and Chester Alan Arthur's great, great, great granddaughter feels about the race.
- Nicotone, on 08/11/2008, -3/+19She brings up a valid point, Obama killed the Clinton Goliath not on substance or experience but in campaign management. It was quite obvious, as a Clinton supporter, this was very frustrating. Seeing as he sealed the nomination, knowing his ability to run the most effective campaign of 2008 and the most lucrative in history was a good sign of his ability to lead and to get people to follow and trust in him. He hasn't completely won me over, I might vote third party of of the two, he is so much better of a candidate than McCain. McCain is the definition of flip-flop, bonafide sellout, loss of integrity personified and worse yet he's old and out of touch. Someone made a comment that these terrorist are using laptops in caves, McCain can barely turn a computer on.Unfortunately for McCain, he is stuck in the mid-20th century, something these 21st century times can't afford to be lost to, a man hanging on to the past. Sure Obama hasn't accomplished much in his four years in the Senate but neither has McCain in all his years. All he's done is not bring back any funds back to the state of Arizona while sitting in the pockets of big-business. We already elected one underachieving, over-privileged silver-spooned son of an actually accomplished somebody, we don't need another one.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -8/+20Eisenhowers granddaughter? THAT is Huffpo's version of a turn in the GOP?
What next? Nixon's gardener?
That said, the link to the direct article is a good read...
Just skip huffinDigg... - AmyVernon, on 08/11/2008, -1/+10Interesting, but I don't know that you could call this a signal of a GOP shift.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -4/+13 "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
If Susan is anything like her grandfather then it is no surprise that she supports Obama. - sathias, on 08/12/2008, -0/+8I was about to post this myself. You know America has skewed a long was to the right when the current administration makes a republican president from the 50s sound like a "liberal".
- seltaeb4, on 08/12/2008, -3/+11This is absolutely a sign of a shift in the Republican Party—to the way things were before the Nixon Era.
Here's a great quote from Susan Eisenhower's grandfather:
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children....This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross."
Dwight D. Eisenhower
34th President of the United States - PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -2/+8Ike? Eisenhower?
The US President from 1953 to 1961. Served as Supreme Allied Commander in Europe in 1944 -1945. Became the first NATO commander.
I'm sorry that you don't know your history. History is what teaches us how to not keep making the same mistakes over and over again. You should take an hour out of your day to learn a bit more about it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7462248898 ... - PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -0/+6http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
She is keeping with her father's sentiments. He tried to warn us of how a powerful lobby of companies and interests that profit from war can influence our politics.
He wasn't talking out of his ass. He wasn't wearing a tin foil hat. He was the supreme allied commander in Europe and then the first NATO commander, and then our president for 8 years. - UberNick, on 08/12/2008, -1/+7Why do the Nader people have to vote for Gore? I think the world would have been a better place if those Gore voters all came out in support of Nadir.
If anyone should be blamed, it's the party-line bastards who voted Bush because there was an R next time his name. Don't make the same mistake with the D. - coheedcollapse, on 08/12/2008, -0/+5From what I understand, the republican party of today is a mere shadow of what it was when it was formed. This would probably be less of a shift away from what they stand for and more of a shift toward what they used to stand for if it meant anything, but I don't think one decision is a good predictor of a total party.
- aussiejan, on 08/11/2008, -2/+7Well said. I hope you take the time to learn about Obama and what he stands for. I believe that he can take the US in a positive direction. A third party vote has never accomplished anything good. Remember Ralph Nader in 2000? I'm not blaming him for 8 years of Bush but the world would be a different place today if those people had voted for Gore instead. Next year you don't want to regret your vote for Nader or Barr while bemoaning the latest travesty of President McCain.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+5"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
This has already happened and Americans have forgotten Eisenhower's warning. - battleangel7, on 08/12/2008, -3/+7All this huffingtonpost crap has turned Digg into a bad joke.
- BossKey, on 08/12/2008, -0/+4Who was she? Her grandfather was a Republican I could vote for.
- ieee, on 08/12/2008, -1/+5Eisenhower was a flaming liberal compared to modern republicans and neocons. For example, there is that famous quote of his
"Beware of the military industrial complex"
Can you imagine even a contemporary democrat saying that, let alone a republican? - mOdQuArK, on 08/12/2008, -0/+4Yeah, the war hero who warned the country about letting the military-industrial complex get out of control. Too bad nobody took THAT part of his legacy seriously.
- sathias, on 08/12/2008, -0/+4gah. that was meant to be "a long WAY to the right"
- ObamaWins08, on 08/12/2008, -6/+9Just another huffington post blindly dugg to the front page.
Cheney's is gay, Reagan's daughter was in playboy, and his son is an outspoken critic of the Republican party. (I am using the first as obvious opposites to traditional Republican values).
Bug Eisenhower's daughter spouting something about changes means that their is a shift... riiiiight.... - zacharytelschow, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3A GOP shift because a descendant of a deceased Republican supports Obama? Evel Knievel couldn't make that leap. More HuffPo spam, and buried as such.
- EatingPaste, on 08/11/2008, -7/+10Who the hell is she and why should I care who she is voting for?
- PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3This isn't Paris Hilton, this is the grandaughter of an American President. And not only is she his grandaughter, but she is keeping within his message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
I agree. If Britney Spears says something political, we should all ignore her. If Paris makes a remark, who gives a *****.
If Nancy Reagan made a statement like this, wouldn't you consider it valid? (of course you wouldn't, unless it agreed with how you already feel.) - slib, on 08/12/2008, -2/+5I've seen like 30 articles from the Huffington Post on the front page of this site in the last few hours. What the *****? I'm beginning to think that they're paying for this. Can we stop, please? This isn't about pro-Obama ***** anymore, this is about ruining Digg.
- TheInformer, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3I had to check the address bar to make sure I wasn't on Huffingtonpost.
I wonder... if I go to Huffingtonpost.com, will I find the articles that used to appear on Digg? - shadekeiko, on 08/12/2008, -0/+2I don't think it's GOP shift either. I mean, I don't have the exact same political views as my parents or grandparents...
- PhantomPhoenix, on 08/12/2008, -0/+2It would be a shift if Ike himself was supporting Obama (and that just isn't going to happen, not because he's a staunch Republican, but because he's DEAD). His granddaughter...not so much.
Though I like her attitude and clear head. - nhansen, on 08/12/2008, -1/+3This is also well documented in the terrific documentary "Why We Fight" - which interviews Eisenhower's son and his Granddaughter and both pretty much say he'd be rolling in his grave at the state of things today - and that even in his time as president (and 5 star general) he was constantly at odds with the pentagon on policy and the great industrial military build up.
Great quote from the doc, by his son: "my dad once said 'may God have mercy on this country when the person who occupies this office understands less about how the military works than I do.'"
yikes. - ObamaWins08, on 08/12/2008, -1/+3yeesh,I will apologize now for the lack of a spell check and re-read of that one. Feel free to Digg me down, i deserve it...
- PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -2/+4The flawed and nonsensical logic is in your trying to equate some crazy, bat ***** and ridiculous association with a sarcastic reason to not vote for a candidate.
I get what you're trying to say, but it is totally flawed logic. - doyoulikeworms, on 08/12/2008, -2/+4Most of Digg probably cares, because every other ***** celebrity has to tell us that they want us to vote for Obama... and I get to hear about it on Digg.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1Way to avoid cognitive dissonance mrrish. Good job.
However, your attempt to dismiss reality fails logic and history. - 2005yijian, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1test
- ISIfunded911, on 08/12/2008, -1/+2Exactly: one more pointless 2008 election article not about issues and what exactly the candidates will do about them.
Chomsky recently gave a very interesting interview about this central issue: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Noam_Chomsky_on_ ...
Once more, most people do not understand that they are manipulated. So easily manipulated. So blind. So sheepish. So pitiful. - casey148, on 08/12/2008, -2/+3No it won't
- PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Does IKE sound like Ron Paul? - kolinkoolface2, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1ha umm well it sounds like ike speaking but they are things Ron Paul speaks about these things on a daily basis...? I am not stupid... i know Eisenhower is much older than Ron Paul...
- J3553, on 08/11/2008, -4/+5no
- PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -1/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Maybe it is an American shift. Maybe the two parties are powers that seek control, and anyone who loves their country doesn't ascribe to either party power position, but holds their vote for the candidate that best serves the American people's interests?
Oh, I'm sorry, that was before 24 hour cable news and divisive politics.
Divide and conquer rules!!!! - EffYoo, on 08/12/2008, -2/+3Political preferences aren't hereditary. This doesn't mean anything.
- zacharytelschow, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately, Paris' energy policy makes a hell of a lot more sense than Obama's. (Drilling, nuclear, oil, coal, or alternatives? YES.)
- reuscel, on 08/12/2008, -1/+2If Eisenhower were alive today, he'd probably be a Democrat.
- Morchades, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1The problem is that HuffPo has a little "Digg" option embedded in each freaking post they put up, meaning all the diggers who read Huffpo just hit the little button and the original articles don't. So rather than the original article, we get the damned Huffpo summary.
There has to be a solution to this. - PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -1/+2That's because you are not a fox news ideologue.
Ike was a republican I could vote for, too. But now that his words are not in line with the neocon agenda, the 28% who voted for Bush and support the neocon agenda, and the right wing media will do everything they can to label him and his American ideals "conspiracy theories", and his family all a bunch of nutcases.
We've already seen a few of them commenting here, saying "yeah, I'm going to let a celebrity influence my vote" almost as if it were a Bill O'Reilly talking point or something. Except the comparison to Paris and Britney is invalid, and only in line with the recent McCain TV ad trying to compare Obama with Paris and Britney.
Sad, tired, worn out ideologies need to die quietly. But they always refuse to give up the ghost. - EatingPaste, on 08/12/2008, -2/+3Ok so her grandfather was a President. What has she done that makes her so important and makes her opinion worthwhile. As far as I am concerned she is a nobody and this is just a another story full of fluff from Huffpost.
- Mothrog, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1...Which doesn't mean his granddaughter is.
- PhilLesh69, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1You might, if it became a partisan argument between the two dominant political parties.
Well, at least if you knew that Einstein had predicted that the two parties would become a duopoly of the military industrial complex, and they would try to argue that Einstein was a crackpot.
Eisenhower made a very prescient statement in his 1961 farewell address. It would be foolish to not consider what he was trying to warn us about. His grandaughter is being very much on subject. She isn't making wild claims, or pulling ***** out of her ass. She is repeating her grandfather's warnings.
She obviously learned more than the rest of us, she is trying hard to keep his message alive, and to wake us up to his concerns and fears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Is she that far off of his message after hearing his farewell address?????? - BROWNS004, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1Gosh, the Dems And Repub's are basically the same party! Vote third party for real change!
What is Obama going to change? What is Mccain going to change? NOTHING BIG ENOUGH TO CHANGE ANYTHING!
Check out the third party candidates...please, for our countries sake. - JagPop, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1News?
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Corporatism (D)
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Corporatism(R)
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You will never ever get it, though. -
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