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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+42***** Hillary. Not even Democrats want her as president.
- bettermentflux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35I'd consider going republican if Colin Powell ran. That said, I'd prefer to see him run on a Democrat ticket. Stranger things have happened.
I'll overlook the UN episode because I tbelieve he was mislead into believing the info handed to him was legit. The man has integrity. - orientis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31The thing that put me off Hillary the most was her siding with the safety-nazis on the violent video games issue. Anyone who can side with Jack Thompson has problems with clear perception.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+43"If Hilary gets voted as president, I'm leaving the country."
No you won't.
Seriously, why do people make such assinine remarks? Sorta like how Alec Baldwin was blowing sunshine up everyone's ass with his threats to move if Bush was elected again, yet he's still here. - Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Just announce it, Barack! We all want you as our president, why not make it official?
- MrUnderbridge, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29"Seriously, why do people make such assinine remarks? Sorta like how Alec Baldwin was blowing sunshine up everyone's ass with his threats to move if Bush was elected again, yet he's still here."
Wait, he didn't move? That *****, that's the only reason I voted for Bush, to get rid of Baldwin! - mikemac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24@Azur-
I heard once that Jeb was the one the Bush family was grooming for the presidency, and George was kind of a throwaway. Can't cite a source, but it makes a good story.
I hope Obama and Clinton don't tear each other apart going for this... seems like Obama has the credibility, but Clinton has the machine behind her.
An Obama/Clinton ticket would be just awesome, though.... it'd be a lose/lose situation for any right-wing extremist would-be assassin. - sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Powell definitely won't run. Not a chance. From what I gather, he's more or less done with politics at this point. Which is a shame, because we need more people who aren't in it for the power and control.
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Hillary hasn't got a freakin chance... She should step aside and let someone with a shot take the democrat banner. Everything I have read about Obama, every quote I've heard from him, makes me want to see him as the next US president. He seems like a good man, of which there is a severe lacking in politics.
- Mandeep, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Jeb is the most conservative of the 3, almost to the point of a neo-con. I'd hate to see him in office.
- sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18More than that, Obama doesn't seem to be able to get bad press. Universally positive press coverage is an exceedingly difficult thing to come by in politics.
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17@InetRoadkill So... Your choice is inanimate carbon rod?
- sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16skyshock:
Re: Obama, actually, I'm well aware of that. However, what he brings to the table is an uncanny ability to talk to the other side without ruffling too many feathers. That strikes me as an extremely useful quality in a President, especially when everything is so polarized. - Xeth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14See thats the problem, politics tend to weed out the types with integrity early on.
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I see 'freshman' status as a plus. Not so much time to have been co-opted by business interests.
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@sporkmonger and bbatsell : Exactly. Obama has shown himself to be generally reasonable, not just reasonable along party lines.
It's the mindless faith in the righteousness of your chosen side which makes politics into a stupid game for rich folk, and a cash-cow for corporate interests. Someone who is able to take a reasoned stance on issues, without resorting to partisan nonsense, is a good choice for a leader. - cmilki, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23John McCain, Rudy Giuliani.
I would personally love to see John Edwards run for President (for the Democrats) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I would have LOVED to have had a McCain Vs. Clark election back in 2000. It would've been win/win for the country regardless of your political affiliation. But no. Instead we got the shaft with that Bush/Gore *****, and again with John "F'ing" Kerry in 2004.
McCain/Giuliani Vs. Obama/Clark please. Leave that filthy bitch Hillary out of this. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Obama would be the most compelling candidate the Dems have put forward since JFK.
Both young, extremely charismatic, and come across well with the press. There are many similarities and the differences are all in favour of Obama. Obama is not, as far as I know, a serial womanizer, and he did not start out as a rich boy being bankrolled by his Dad. Obama is also black and militant, but not in the Al Sharpton or Nation of Islam fashion that puts off so many non-black Americans. Most Americans dislike racism, but they don't like the Sharpton method of dealing with it. Obama's approach is a softer, more thoughtful and more respectful approach, and more importantly it is only one of the issues he is seen to care about (I assume Jesse Jackson cares about more than racial issues, but he came across as a racial candidate, whereas Obama does not... yet anyway).
Obama comes across as a decent, sincere, hardworking and respectful politician. He also comes across as very intelligent, but in a way that is non-threatening and non-patronising (which is a really hard trick to pull off, just look at Al Gore). The kind of black man that Americans would accept as a president is someone like Morgan Freeman (who has among other things played both the president and God), and Obama exudes the same gravitas as Freeman, although in a more youthful fashion. You might say that it is odd to compare being president to an acting role, but it is not that much different. Why do you think Ronald Reagan was such an effective politician? (I hated Reagan, but you have to admit he was a great politician, as was Kennedy).
More to the point, he is the right man at the right time. Given the terrible performance of the Bush administration, and the mealy mouthed compromising of the Clinton administration before it, the US needs a strong personality to take the office, but not someone who is so partisan as to be another Bush. The general feeling seems to be that the US political system has been going through a bad time, and that restoration is in order. Who else would be a better restorer than someone fresh, new and different. - InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13@orientis: *** So... Your choice is inanimate carbon rod? ***
Why not. In rod we trust. - Hegemony, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Damn straight. Barack has charisma and the intelligence to back it up. His politics are realistic and compassionate. Barack in '08!
- whodatis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I want Obama to run in 08, but who for vice president?
- Xeth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10That segment probably won't vote for a democrat anyway.
- bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I'd love to see a Barack Obama/Wesley Clark ticket.
- flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14John Edwards And Barak Obama would be good. Clinton will run, might get VP nod from eventual winner. But Giuliani / McCain would be a strong team. Oh should be interesting on Digg around election time.
I wanna see Gore / Clark - ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The Right-Wing ditto-heads have already started calling Barack "Barack Hussein Obama." It means they're desperate.
I want to see a Barack/Edwards ticket for the populist support, a Barack/Clark ticket for the security side, or a Barack/Clinton ticket just to get Bill hanging around the office again. - bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@skyshock21:
He's viewed more as a moderate in terms of partisanship, not in terms of (most) issues. He has shown himself to be much more open to compromise and bipartisanship than most other prominent Democrats (and most, but not all, Republicans). - eatsushi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8As Dave Chappelle said, ".I would make my VP Mexican, so if I'm assassinated he'll open up all the borders.."
- ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Socialist? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
- iZealot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Obama was on Leno last night and said he would not do VP, but is considering a run a president.
- shadowkiller137, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Only the republicans could make it seem that way
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"So by your logic Obama doesn't have the integrity to not be influenced by lobbyists"
Well, considering I was making a statement of opinion based on irrational thoughts and feelings, I'm going to disagree with your analysis of my logic.
I'd be willing to take a chance on a relatively experienced man with views I agree with - and can aspire to. Obama seems to have a lot of compassion and empathy - I'd bet on those qualities.
Edit: I should point out that I'm not in the US, nor am I a US citizen. I just take an interest in US politics. - livestradamus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I'd love to see a Barack Obama/Wesley Clark ticket.
That's got my vote. - siszam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Obama/Gore
We've had years of spending money to kill people and on corporate welfare. Now we need to help American citizens starting with the ones who have the least.
I always wonder, what kind of evil person bitches about "socialist" as if they eat babies alive but doesn't have a problem with fascist, capitalists starting wars and killing people for profit. That twisted "morality" is how we ended up with a demon filled, fake Christian in the White House for the past two terms. - JewishPower, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Obama is an articulate, smart black fellow, and everyone and their cousin loves those. That's all the credibility he needs to most people.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@ sporkmonger
People view Obama as a centrist for some god-forsaken reason. I'm not sure where this comes from either as he's VERY left-leaning in all his short voting record thus far. I think that's why the left likes him so much right now, because they all know he's not a centrist but as long as he's perceived that way it helps them appear more moderate. I can't think of too many politicians that are much further left of Obama honestly, and it would do him a big disservice if he chose someone like that as a concession to the ultra-left. - freff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5ByteGuerilla, he's been brainwashed to think it means Democrat. He'd say that about any non Rush-approved candidate put before him on the ballot. He's one of those that are beyond the reach of logic and reason.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Condi Rice is tainted by association with Bush. If she ran she'd have to spend the entire campaign defending Bush's politics, and that is a losing proposition.
She doesn't stand a chance any more, which is a shame. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10@ sporkmonger
No kidding! The press would drink Obama's bath water if the opportunity presented itself. As far as the press is concerned, Obama's ***** doesn't stink. - mistercharlie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is Obama's shot. He has the star quality now, and that may not carry over to 2012. Hillary has already made her intentions known, so she'd be out for VP on that gravy train. Obama will need somebody to balance his ticket a bit - perhaps a moderate Dem would be the perfect ying to Obama's yang.
- wickedtribe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@Neiby Why is it that when someone shows a little compassion for someone else they become a "socialist". Being in a country like America does not excuse us from caring about each other. We have a capitalist economic system (I love that about this place) but we should not have a capitalist society. We should all be socialist. We should care about our fellow citizens and want to help. Most people feel that way. I would like to say I appreciate Obama's "socialism". Most people do. As we are constantly reminded (for whether it is true or not), we are a Christian country and no one was more of a "socialist" than Jesus Christ. And I ain't even a Christian!
- Neiby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I would vote for Powell if he were to run.
- dragazis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I want Obama to run, just so Clinton has less of a chance. This is coming from a New Yorker and well she hasn't done ***** for our state so I don't think she will do anything for our country.
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4My ideal: Obama/Gore
My horrible, horrible premonition: Clinton/Liebermann - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Smart woman.
- sporkmonger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5skyshock:
Right on the money. We desperately need a win/win election like that. Except I'm pretty sure I'd rather see a Giuliani/McCain ticket on the Republican side of things. I've lost a lot of faith in McCain lately. He's been acting a little too partisan for my tastes. - kinchknifeblade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No one is mentioning the elephant in the room. What percentage of America just won't vote for a black man in a presidential election?
- orientis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Obama only gets to run in 2012 if he switches to the Republican side of things or if Hillary loses"
sporkmonger why is this? Is there a rule I'm unaware of? - avolant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i will not deny any of what you said, digg you up or down. its true. but only because you listen. (not you? well somebody does, and it sure as hell isnt me)
i vote meaningful debate in 2008. i vote we try democracy for a change. it might be weird to move away from a political monolith for a second but, i bet we could do it. yknow. if we try....
i vote for instant runoff voting, re-thinking the electoral college, and allowing non-votes (none of the above, etc). furthermore, to encourage participation in the events, the actions of all registered voters should count as a vote. if you dont go to the polling place and you are registered, that is a non-vote. a meaningful political action. if the majority ever won, we wouldnt have had a president in years. this would also encourage participation. i dont think many of you actually dont want a president.
decentralization ftw. - diggdaddyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Barack and roll 08
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